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by rbavfan
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

hOMSaR wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
The 727's that Delta had left were NW units from the merger. As far As I can tell form older fleet data.


The 727 left Northwest’s fleet 5 years before the Delta merger was announced.


Yes I messed up my dates on that.

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by rbavfan
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

Somewhere in my bookshelf I have a newspaper cutting (from the UK's "Guardian") showing an artist's impression of the 757. It was, in fact, a Rolls Royce advertisement declaring, "The RB211-535 has just taken off!". The 757 had two underwing engines, a T-tail, and the complete 7...

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by rbavfan
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

LAX772LR wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
The 727's that Delta had left were NW units from the merger. As far As I can tell form older fleet data.

72Ss were long gone from both fleets, yearrrrrs before the merger.


Messed up on that.

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by rbavfan
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

The 727's that Delta had left were NW units from the merger. As far As I can tell form older fleet data. The 727 left Northwest’s fleet 5 years before the Delta merger was announced. Sorry thought they got more from NW. NW was great at keeping plane flying. Look at their re-skinning of the DC-9's &...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

When the 738 came out most US airlines had already replaced their 727's with Mixes of 734, 757, MD80, A320. series planes. They'd begun replacing some 727s, yes. But DL, UA, NW, CO, TW, and especially AA were all still operating 727s well past the 738's debut, and many (I dare say most) of those su...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

You seem to be missing on the timeline. 757 came about a decade and a half before the 737NG, and was clearly intended as the 727 replacement. That not every airline used it as such, particularly in light of its increased capability, does not alter Boeing's intent upon introduction. Interesting that...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

The European charter/bucket and spade niche has been filled as well by the A321 which can fly to the Canaries from anywhere in Northern Europe. The only test will be a replacement for the 757-300 which is currently used in that niche for capacity still, although Condor are the only operator at the ...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

It’s true, the 757 was never a 727 replacement other than when the 727 was used for field performance. The 757 was the non-ER replacement for the 707 and the 767 was the TATL/hawaii replacement for the 707. Also competitor to DC10. The early 727Adv wasn’t ready for replacement for over a decade fro...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

It’s true, the 757 was never a 727 replacement other than when the 727 was used for field performance. The 757 was the non-ER replacement for the 707 and the 767 was the TATL/hawaii replacement for the 707. Also competitor to DC10. The early 727Adv wasn’t ready for replacement for over a decade fro...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

As someone stated, when the B757 came, the B737NG did not exist. Also, the first B757's were not the ER type. They were perfect for the charter carriers in Europe, they could carry a full load from the Nordic countries to the Canary Islands for instance. BA saw the potential for this aircraft on he...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

The 757 program began development as Boeing’s 727 replacement. Like all aircraft development, it’s specs morphed following airline feedback. Boeing still continued it to market as a 727 replacement, even if it was larger with more range, because hey at that point the 727 was one of the most success...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%
Replies: 50
Views: 10229

Re: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%

One thing that can increase yields is to make the JFK and BOS flights connect with the SYD, BNE and AKL flights. New York to Sydney is really expensive even in J Pre-Corona. Right now only the West Coast flights connect with the Oceania flights. Have JFK & BOS ever been timed to connect to BNL/...

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by rbavfan
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%
Replies: 50
Views: 10229

Re: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%

Hawaii (Oahu more specifically) is currently experiencing a surge in numbers due to community spread. Every time the numbers go up the people blame the visitors for ignoring quarantine. While violators have been a problem since the beginning, the virus is starting to run wild because people have be...

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by rbavfan
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 84
Views: 11671

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

Many times here, the most discussed 727 replacements come down to 3 core options Mcdonnell Douglas- MD90 Boeing- 737 NG Airbus- A320CEO However, most Boeing officials still said that back then, the 757 was the 727 replacement. I, among others, heavily doubt this, because the 757 has much greater ra...

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by rbavfan
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA axes LCY-JFK A318 premium service
Replies: 78
Views: 14877

Re: BA axes LCY-JFK A318 premium service

Wonder if B6 is looking at this... Sure leaves an opening for them with the 220s coming A220s with lie-flats? Because, sure, a carrier the size of B6 needs another small sub-fleet. That'll improve utilization, alright. LCY-JFK has long been a bit 'fragile' has it not? Among the first LON-NYC servic...

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by rbavfan
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA axes LCY-JFK A318 premium service
Replies: 78
Views: 14877

Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet

British Airways scrapping its all-business class flight between LCY and JFK and retire the A318 https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/ba-axes-a318-premium-service-that-took-over-concorde-flight-number/139579.article https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/british-airways-scraps-all-business-class-l...

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by rbavfan
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG
Replies: 93
Views: 29249

Re: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG

Anyone remembers the B787 caught on fire in LHR few years back? I mention this is because the location of the fire is extremely similar, near the rear left door, on B787 it is L4 door galley. On this B777, it seems to be in a similar location. Yes I am sure the B777 is a entirely different circumst...

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by rbavfan
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS responds to B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion
Replies: 157
Views: 26456

Re: AS claps back at B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion

AS adding PDX-TPA nonstop service might be a possibility with the lack of PDX-TPA nonstop service is one of the biggest holes in both the PDX and TPA markets. There are also other adds that could be made by AS out of PDX such as PDX-ATL/IND/BNA/RDU/SAT. AS adding SFO-TPA nonstop service is also a p...

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by rbavfan
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 306
Views: 35919

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

Sounds like AA is trying to take on DL in Seattle, Boston and New York It sounds more like AA is weak on the West Coast and needed a partner to help them so went with AS who is strong domestically while AA brings international flights to the table. And the same occurred in NYC where AA has been str...

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by rbavfan
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Furloughs
Replies: 40
Views: 16401

Re: Southwest Furloughs

Absolutely true.. great statement. My sw pilot friends were saying about 2000 pilot jobs were on the chopping block . Not seen it in writing yet but no doubt it’s there. Their cockpit talk is just what the thread is about. Do you take a pay/hours cut to possible save a few furloughs or keep what yo...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

Just hope they find more passengers than Virgin America did though - lovely aeroplanes but in my experience not full! VA was 65 or so airplanes and what, 30 cities? JetBlue is orders of magnitude bigger, has an extremely profitable and well known TCON franchise and brand, and a fleet size (assuming...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

Seems no matter how hard airlines try, all roads in LA lead to LAX where the money and customers are. Good luck, but suspect it will be brutal with so many overlapping competitors. The money is in SNA and BUR for domestic travel, they are just space limited. I don't see this though as being any les...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

Sorry this is a bit off topic. B6 announced their future intentions for LAX but I haven’t heard anything for EWR? Has B6 said anything about their future growth there? I wouldn't worried about EWR. They will grow there as much as space allows. They probably got some kind of commitment from LAWA on ...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

Funny take from Crankyflier “This is stupid,” Snyder told TPG on Thursday. “It’s smart that they’re finally leaving Long Beach. However, instead they’ve decided to go into one of the most competitive airports in the world on routes where they’ll really add little value and I don’t see how this work...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

The more I look at this, the more I see it being a fight against Alaskan than the big 4. JetBlue have basically managed to achieve the goal they wanted during the Virgin battle, and they didn’t spend 2 billion on it. Get some SFO gates and you’re basically there, minus the bills! The more I look at...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35139

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

I see prices climbing at LGB.

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by rbavfan
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 804
Views: 146291

Re: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread

think Breeze will be a huge success almost straight away, especially now as labour costs will be a lot less, as millions apply for jobs. As millions apply for jobs would mean millions aren't working and aren't going to have money for vacations. not the same millions. Plenty of people will still hav...

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by rbavfan
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History
Replies: 79
Views: 5626

Re: AA, UA, DL TATL Service History

There's going to be people here that know way more than me, but 2 things I can confirm. AA did start LGW service from DFW sometime in 1982. They took over the route authority from Braniff, which went bankrupt in May, 1982. I think they used a D10-30. In 1987 they launched DFW to FRA and ORY using 7...

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by rbavfan
Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31043

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

The Whale killed by a microscopic virus. Among other factors of course... The real whales - the 747s - are still alive as the cargo versions are busy, in part due to the virus. I've never referred to the A380 as a whale - if forced into using a nickname, I'd call it Uncle Fester. UA's 747 Whale com...

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by rbavfan
Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31043

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

In the large aircraft, Boeing and Lockheed introduced the 747 and L-1011 in 1968 with Boeing having the first flight. The L-1011 faded out. The DC-10 (later the MD-11) competed with the 747 but never got the upper hand. The A-380 entered the market with the big 777 twin already in service, the 77W ...

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by rbavfan
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1121
Views: 309371

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Minor typo, my dear 747Classic? ;) It's still May,i noticed it too late, after the 30 minutes correction time. I thought nobody would notice it. :white: Which is the minor typo, the date or the registration? No getting away with anything. We're all eagle-eyed, here. :geek: :devil: :mischievous: :wi...

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by rbavfan
Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?
Replies: 46
Views: 9019

Re: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?

glideslope wrote:
Palletized seating tends to be extremely clastrphobic.


In what way is it closterphobic? Please explain?

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by rbavfan
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 299
Views: 22163

Re: Why have DL's A320-200s not been retired????????

The 737-700 can do what the A319s do Except they only have 10 73Gs vs. 57 A319s. The 73G was brought into the fleet to handle very specific routes that were a challenge for other aircraft in the fleet. They were purchased well before the merger with NW. The future in this size category is the A220,...

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by rbavfan
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 299
Views: 22163

Re: Why have DL's A320-200s not been retired????????

I think it comes down to engines. The MD88 and MD90 engine maintenance costs are very high since there are limited spare parts and competition among overhaul shops. The MD-90 uses V2500s, though. DL's A320s use CFMs, but there are still a lot of V2500 powered A320s in the world. I think the showsto...

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by rbavfan
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Pan Am disappear?
Replies: 76
Views: 9738

Re: Why did Pan Am dissapeared?

Why was Pan AM so desperate to have a domestic network within the US, was not their international network not enough for them? I remember they were ( just in my opinion ) along with British Airways the largest international carriers in the world at the time just about any airport in the world you w...

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by rbavfan
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Pan Am disappear?
Replies: 76
Views: 9738

Re: Why did Pan Am dissapeared?

I will keep this simple. Eastern was the only collapse that really impacted travelers and took a while to back fill network wise by other carriers. Pan Am & TWA had been basket cases for years and year. In Pan Am's case having assets to sell at a time of restricted int'l air travel via bilatera...

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by rbavfan
Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA will close FA bases in NRT, HKG, FRA
Replies: 87
Views: 15416

Re: UA will close FA bases in NRT, HKG, FRA

Yes they are AFA represented and yes they can transfer to any base with vacancies (excluding LHR) No The majority of them cannot transfer because they do not have green cards. They cannot work in the US. UA's international bases are interesting because they are a mixture of both US nationals and lo...

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by rbavfan
Sun May 31, 2020 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is American really done with the 757?
Replies: 54
Views: 10128

Re: Is American really done with the 757?

Or SNN is a market that will be held off and not see service returned until an appropriate aircraft is delivered. (Could also go seasonal.) None of these things is even written in sand, much less stone.) I figure if they need the range before they have the XLR they can always use a 788 temp & r...

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by rbavfan
Sun May 31, 2020 5:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is American really done with the 757?
Replies: 54
Views: 10128

Re: Is American really done with the 757?

Specifically, the AA press release said it was 'accelerating the retirement' of the 757, not that it was done - as was the case with the 767s. http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2020/A-fond-farewell-to-five-fantastic-fleets-FLT-04/default.aspx However, do you think that AA lacks aircraft to meet ...

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by rbavfan
Sat May 30, 2020 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020
Replies: 90
Views: 19339

Re: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020

Why would an airline that is struggling to survive be spending money on a brand new airplane? Makes no sense. Part of ANY government assistance should include NO NEW AIRPLANES at all until the TAXPAYERS are made whole and 100% of the government assistance is paid in full! Ask AA the same thing. Ans...

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by rbavfan
Sat May 30, 2020 3:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA is allowed to give hand sanitizer
Replies: 39
Views: 6133

Re: AA is not (yet) allowed to give hand sanitizer

kalvado wrote:
DocLightning wrote:
Why is hand sanitizer a hazard and booze isn't? (OK, 55-60% vs 40% but still...)

because vodka doesn't burn. I believe you need 60% at least.


Funny as they have flaming drinks at some bars that are made with Vodka. We must just drink better Vodka.

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by rbavfan
Sat May 30, 2020 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 58787

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

NameOmitted wrote:
Would it be possible for Airbus to develop a civilian A400M that could be cost-competitive for outsized cargo?


With all the Issues the A400M is having who would be willing.

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by rbavfan
Thu May 28, 2020 6:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR
Replies: 96
Views: 24293

Re: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR

After receiving billions is US aid and then turns around and buys a European jet .... while we know that airlines should buy what’s best for them , the optics on this will be terrible. Hope Trump doesn’t get word , I can already see his twitter post ... You realize a large part of every Airbus plan...

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by rbavfan
Thu May 28, 2020 6:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR
Replies: 96
Views: 24293

Re: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR

hmmmm, buying 7 new widebody jets in these unique times whilst begging the government for money and inevitably cutting jobs. The optics will not be nice. The optics are "We believe that service levels will come back" When everyone is worried in all industries, that is a good Optic for oth...

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by rbavfan
Sat May 23, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines planning on squeezing competitors in weaker positions
Replies: 236
Views: 38886

Re: Southwest Airlines planning on squeezing competitors in weaker positions

Southwest knows what they are doing, they have never lost money in their history. I am sure they will post a profit on the second quarter. What are you talking about? They just posted losses for Q1 2020: http://investors.southwest.com/news-and-events/news-releases/2020/04-28-2020-110107839 There is...

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by rbavfan
Fri May 22, 2020 4:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Airport to Close Existing Concourses as new ones open
Replies: 66
Views: 8832

Re: SLC Airport to Close All Existing Gates in September

This gets me to wondering if SLC isn't anticipating Delta reducing or even closing the SLC hub after Delta completes their post-COVID restructuring? With Delta's international hub at SEA likely to be restored to near-pre-COVID activity, will Delta still need 2 hubs serving the Mountain West and Nor...

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by rbavfan
Fri May 22, 2020 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Time for the airlines to restart advertising
Replies: 114
Views: 10431

Re: Time for the airlines to restart advertising

Advertising today would be a huge financial black hole when the world is on lockdown, most airlines are virtually shutdown and more folks than during the depression have been left jobless. Unless you are so disconnected from reality, I don't see anyone really thinking about buying airline tickets a...

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by rbavfan
Fri May 15, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117383

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

What might the fate of DL's 777 be? I'm guessing that the ER variants would likely be scrapped and parted out, while the LR variants would be converted into freighters as 777BCF (potential customers who haven't flown the 777F would include, but not limited to: UPS, Air Transport International, ABX ...

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by rbavfan
Fri May 15, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117383

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

It does make sense in current environment to retire the aircraft with the most seat. And by the time demand comes back, they will have all the A350s and A330NEO they need to replace them. Airbus will be happy from this, since it probably means DL will take all their A350s and maybe even order more ...

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by rbavfan
Fri May 08, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31043

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

We’ve known the A380 is over for a while now. I’m not sure what’s changed. It was cancelled due to lack of sales. But before Corona they could keep them operating for years yet to come. Now they cannot keep them running due to cost at low loads. They could keep them ready in the desert for a return...

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