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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Future of DFW (future routes, future airlines Etc)
Replies: 25
Views: 1824

Re: Future of DFW (future routes, future airlines Etc)

Not gonna lie... I feel like we get this thread at least twice a year... here we go. DFW-HEL/MAN/TPE/PTY/BCN/KIX/AKL/MEL/BNE/BOM On, I don't know? Finnair, Iberia, Aer Lingus, Cathay Pacific? More Qantas/Australian routes since the JV just got approved today. Because DFW is the center of the univer...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41197

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

The SJC piece is a bit of a head scratcher and the quote from the actual article doesn't clear much up. "The carrier plans to grow capacity by ...23.1% in San Jose this year, schedule show." So this growth is already reflected in their schedule? Has any new service been announced in their...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41197

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

ucdtim17 wrote:
DL is over 5 (!) times bigger at SFO than at SJC, but SJC is the focus city?


YUP just the Delta propaganda machine ad it again. GRR comes pretty close to the same capacity as AUS and SJC but yet it's not a focus city

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41197

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

One can only guess where the capacity reduction is coming from to fuel the 14% growth at BOS when system wide the growth is only 4%

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 801
Views: 99045

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

We should probably all just face the hard fact that Icelandair will likely never return to Cleveland. They’ve tarnished their reputation and reliability to the point that no business travelers, or even some leisure travelers for that matter, will want to risk flying them. They were continually trim...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...
Replies: 226
Views: 26930

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug. Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July. (MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965) https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to se...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 942
Views: 96591

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Maybe it hasn’t been loaded yet. Already confirmed it's a negative for DTW. Definitely a shocker. They would have given WN and DL a run for their money. I make frequent trips up to DTW, and I would have loved a dirt cheap option to get up there. Really not a schocker at all I never expected them to...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 942
Views: 96591

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

fsafsx wrote:
Ha ha i love this seeing dtw keep getting passed up! Good for bna.


Thank you it keeps driving my point home which everyone on here disagrees with. The proof is in the pudding.

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 942
Views: 96591

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Maybe it hasn’t been loaded yet. Already confirmed it's a negative for DTW. Definitely a shocker. They would have given WN and DL a run for their money. I make frequent trips up to DTW, and I would have loved a dirt cheap option to get up there. Good to see both of DTW's major carriers now giving t...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 95
Views: 19304

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

I think the bigger issue is why are the employees directly or indirectly leaking internal company matters to a “media” outlet. In most organizations airing internal company matters as such could be worthy of termination. I question if this was actually sent out my anyone even remotely involved with...

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by klm617
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...
Replies: 226
Views: 26930

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes? Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug. Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July. (MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965) https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?
Replies: 56
Views: 7058

Re: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?

CLT and SLC maybe close in local passengers but CLT revenue is likey much higher thanks to banking. Charlotte is the #2 or 3 banking center in the USA Let's be clear banking and financial center are not the same thing. Just because it's the number 3 banking center doesn't mean really much of anythi...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?
Replies: 56
Views: 7058

Re: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around, DTW is more of a connecting point while MSP is more O&D. Could someone provide more data on this? Regardless, I have long contended both SLC and DTW are underutilized for a connecting standpoint in the DL network. I agree 100% there sure are but it's a...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?
Replies: 56
Views: 7058

Re: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?

ual763 wrote:
It surpassed CLT for one reason and one reason alone, all the skiers going there for winter vacations. Whereas most airports are busiest in Summer, SLC is unique in that it is very busy in Winter.


It doesn't matter why they di

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?
Replies: 56
Views: 7058

Re: Will DL bulk up SLC to be more like UA at DEN?

Yes, I believe that once SLC’s new terminal opens, DL will build the hub up to rival DEN. SLC will grow from 157 mainline/281 total peak flights to 222 mainline/504 peak flights than UA offers at DEN. Therefore, I expect DL to place an order for ~50 aircraft soon, just to account for SLC growth. Th...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 801
Views: 99045

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

I'll try to keep doing this from month to month as they come out, but here are the load factors from Cleveland for January 2019 January 2019: Keep in mind that January is typically the slowest month of the year -- most loads are much lower than average with the exception of the snowbird routes to F...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Aviation June 2019
Replies: 230
Views: 23081

Re: Turkish Aviation June 2019

ist2014 wrote:
Can a 332er (jna-jne) do denver, sea or dfw? Considering that they are capable of pty,bog,hav and ccs?
If so above mentioned cities can be started with 332s as well


The 332 could easliy reach Detroit.

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Aviation June 2019
Replies: 230
Views: 23081

Re: Turkish Aviation June 2019

Does TK have any short term plan for expansion into United States? Detroit would be really nice but until we get a change in Washington I don't think you'll see any new cities added. What makes you think that there has to be a change in Washington for new cities? By the way, EWR is still on the top...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

I think you will eventually see the A220 extend current seasonal routes to year-round or near year-round, and add frequency to other routes. For example, both ONT and OAK could eventually benefit from more comprehensive service to ATL (frequencies closer to what you see in SMF or SJC, but on the A2...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

However, the A220 is a clear differentiator against AS and AA respectively. Just look at DFW-LGA, the A220's 2-3 configuration along with PTVs is superior to AA's oasis configured cabins that usually lack PTVs. If AA had a bunch of Oasis 321s on LGA-DFW I'd grant you that point - but that's not wha...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 95
Views: 19304

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

Hang on just a minute... All of you screaming for unionization must’ve missed the part where the door was opened and they still didn’t walk. And kudos to DL for owning up to the incident and admitting the ops folks didn’t handle the situation in the best way. I’ve got a pretty good feeling those FA...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 95
Views: 19304

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

Not my opinion , reality is Delta would never have done this to unionized employees. Unionized employees have resources. Anyway can bet given the current drive to unionize delta is going to find these employees and shower them in gifts and compensation to keep them quiet and happy. Absolutely false...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Aviation June 2019
Replies: 230
Views: 23081

Re: Turkish Aviation June 2019

B1168 wrote:
Does TK have any short term plan for expansion into United States?



Detroit would be really nice but until we get a change in Washington I don't think you'll see any new cities added.

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

This keeps getting better. Are any of you familiar with these airports? BFI, IFP, and LMT have NO service from any airline. BFI will get JetSuite X. There’s 20,000 people in LMT. I mean REALLY!?!? IDA doesn’t even have service to SEA on any airline. Yet you want Delta to fly to ATL? Maybe they shou...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 95
Views: 19304

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

I’ve seen this happen in other instances like the door being closed and mtx returning the logbook through the cockpit window as not to open the door and trip a new OUT time. Also, if the captain ordered the jetbridge back up and door open, they’d open it I’m sure. Plus, fairly certain, at least one...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

Imho i think it's easy to figure out where it's going by concentrating on the NYC, slc, sea routes that have jumbo RJs on them. Look at west coast routes with 717s. Start and stay there. Out of Atlanta we need upgauging not down. Dtw and msp will get the displaced 717 flying. But I don’t get why DL...

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kitplane01 wrote:
“Someone in the airline's operations control center feared attendants might walk off the plane after working long hours. So they ordered the door closed.“.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5cf2 ... 6b198c/amp



And this is why Delta FAs need a union.

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

Imho i think it's easy to figure out where it's going by concentrating on the NYC, slc, sea routes that have jumbo RJs on them. Look at west coast routes with 717s. Start and stay there. Out of Atlanta we need upgauging not down. Dtw and msp will get the displaced 717 flying. Exactly the A220 could...

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by klm617
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

I think the A220 would be the perfect plane to take over all the RJ flying in ATL and then move the rest of the RJ flying up north

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by klm617
Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

With lots of wealth, robust growth in Northern San Diego County, increasingly heavy traffic on the 5, and discriminatory market that would prefer the 2x3 cabin seating, the A220 would be perfect. I could see DL operating 2x daily to ATL, and 6x weekly to JFK. There is absolutely no chance. CLD can'...

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by klm617
Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Largest non-hub AA stations?
Replies: 57
Views: 9534

Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

Detroit has to be pretty near the top as well.

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by klm617
Fri May 31, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RDU and AUS to become Delta's Largest Non-hub Stations
Replies: 125
Views: 17486

Re: RDU and AUS to become Delta's Largest Non-hub Stations

I am kind of confused has delta added anything to AUS? What are you confused about? A.net has more unfounded rumors than the average clique of high school girls. You know better than that, especially to bump a 6mo old thread. Please clarify again for those who missed it what the definition of an a....

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by klm617
Fri May 31, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

I could see the doing CLD-ATL with this aircraft wealthy are good premium traffic.

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by klm617
Fri May 31, 2019 1:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

flyfresno wrote:
BrodieBruce wrote:
klm617 wrote:

Why not FAT-DTW.

If you think FAT-DTW is coming, you probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.


DTW should, obviously, have service to every single commercial airport on the planet!


If FAT-MSP and FAT-ATL can be brought up why not FAT-DTW Why should it be omitted as a suggestion ?

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by klm617
Fri May 31, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 route additions
Replies: 266
Views: 10295

Re: Delta A220 route additions

BrodieBruce wrote:
klm617 wrote:
flyfresno wrote:

I would love to see FAT-ATL, but I think there are also a host of other routes that will have priority over it. FAT-MSP could happen instead owing to the much larger O&D.


Why not FAT-DTW.

If you think FAT-DTW is coming, you probably also believe in the Easter Bunny.


And Santa Claus.

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by klm617
Thu May 30, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 801
Views: 99045

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

I think your first case makes more sense. CLE did well for FI and they would do even better without WW in the picture, and with no new competing carriers, no reason to not operate CLE-KEF. It was on the books for 2019---only at the last minute did they drop per the 737max8 issues. So if nothing els...

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by klm617
Thu May 30, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 801
Views: 99045

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

This is a slender thread to hang on ... but ... IcelandAir has not removed CLE from its route map and destination list. DFW, another discontinued city, HAS been dropped from the map/dest. list. I wonder if they are planning to try again after the Max grounding thing is over - say spring of '20. Las...

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by klm617
Thu May 30, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Printed Airline Timetables
Replies: 33
Views: 2830

Re: Printed Airline Timetables

Spirit still posts a PDF timetable on their website.

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by klm617
Thu May 30, 2019 12:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 18938

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

Could flight 191 have been saved if the take off was aborted ?

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

Lets not forget CLE also had service to Belgrade at one point. That was Budapest, on MA. Or, hey, was there Belgrade, too?? Did they manage to attract not one, but several looney airlines? Depending on the day of the week, JAT flew DC-10s either CLE-ORD-BEG-CLE or CLE-ORD-LJU-CLE I believe it was 2...

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

Your quote was “ Clevelsnd is even worse with only Bayer potentially creating some traffic”. Where in NEO is Bayers operation, I honestly didn’t know about it but it’d be a wonderful company to have generating travel out of NEO. Have the other companies I’ve mentioned gone out of business and I mis...

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

The problem with Ohio like Detroit is there really is no premium traffic to be had or at least not enough to warrant more service. These airports need to focus their energy on the leisure traffic that is the only place that has potential. Giving families a chance to travel abroad at an affordable pr...

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is TK going to EWR or not?
Replies: 20
Views: 3812

Re: Is TK going to EWR or not?

Who got the WOW Air slot and what was the process for acquiring it. Would have thought TK could have got that one.

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skyteam DL/AF/KL EU-US New routes?
Replies: 57
Views: 7590

Re: Skyteam DL/AF/KL EU-US

DTW-AMS on KLM is long overdue. And why is that? There are already 4 flights on that route. One of them an A350. Obviously SkyTeam feels that’s plenty. Would you be willing to give up say... the A350 just to get a KL tail in Detroit? :lol: Absolutely I would give up the A350 to get a KLM flight her...

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by klm617
Wed May 29, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

I really think that the best option for OH is a CLE-LGW nonstop with DY maybe 2 weekly to start until you build up market share. CLE has shown that it can not sustain flights to Europe on a narrow body even with a subsidy. The loyalty and traffic is not their so they have to point their efforts in ...

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by klm617
Tue May 28, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

And thankfully Ohio hasn’t thrown money at billion dollar profit corporations and their highly paid CEOs like IND and PIT have. "Ohio airports want $15 million in state budget to attract new flights" https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/04/ohio-airports-want-15-million-in-state-budget-...

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by klm617
Tue May 28, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

If I remember correctly, Delta had 4 transatlantic routes from CVG as late as 2010: FRA, CDG, LGW, and AMS (last 2 being on 757-200ER). AF also served CVG along with DL at one time. Also, BRU and FCO were present during CVG's peak. With extremely diverse industries in CIncinnati area, it will not b...

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by klm617
Tue May 28, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 88
Views: 8778

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

There's a $15M air service fund awaiting a push through the Ohio legislature which would be distributed among the state's airports (with the exception of CVG, as it belongs to Kentucky). Some of this would presumably be the "keeping up with the Joneses" moment to aid TATL service comparab...

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