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by Thibault973
Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 35
Views: 6327

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

Sounds they expand too big too fast. Italian overheads cost must be High aswell. Same for the leasing cost of the frame. Calling going 14 to 15 aircraft “expand” is really kind of sad knowing circa 2006c Meridiana flew around 5 millions passengers a year with a fleet of around 40 aircraft. Then the...

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by Thibault973
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Azul awarded CGH slots
Replies: 20
Views: 2296

Re: Azul awarded CGH slots

Checked their website. Although it is great to have them on the Ponte Aerea, thier prices are quite high. I am booked to fly LATAM between SDU and CGH for 1/2 of the price Azul is offering now. And I know GOL's tickets are not far off from LATAM's too too. I booked last night SDU-CGH mid September....

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by Thibault973
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

Guys I fly to Algeria a lot and prices are already really high with Aigle Azur in trouble if they fold will prices to Algeria increase significantly? Indeed, same demand less seats available. This Will be temporary until a new operator is operating those lucrative lines. Transavia is slightly stepp...

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by Thibault973
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Emirates to launch Antananarivo
Replies: 22
Views: 6471

Re: Rumor: Emirates to launch Antananarivo

It has is been reported that Emirates Airline has submitted an application to Madagascar Civil Aviation Authority to launch flights to Antananarivo. If this true, Emirates African network will grow to 23 destinations. Part of the restrictions that might face the carrier in Madagascar is the health ...

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by Thibault973
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

Things are not looking good for ZI :( Their Portuguese operations are to be sold to VY. Flights to Algeria and Mali to be moved to CDG while Moscow and Kiev will stay in ORY. MXP and BEY to be dropped, TXL having just ended. I don't get the point of keeping Moscow and Kiev in ORY unless this a bila...

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by Thibault973
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

Things are not looking good for ZI :( Their Portuguese operations are to be sold to VY.
Flights to Algeria and Mali to be moved to CDG while Moscow and Kiev will stay in ORY.
MXP and BEY to be dropped, TXL having just ended.

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by Thibault973
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

No idea but I would guess it cant be bad. We are talking of a regulated market , no Locos (except the few Vueling flights), no competion via other hubs and passengers that "have" to travel (for business or to visit family). And a sure sign is that ZI has been alive for 70 years focusing o...

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by Thibault973
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

f4f3a Is there a lot of demand for flights to Algeria?. It's a huge diaspora here in France (the biggest Maghreb community by far). In France it's about 4 millions (with 2 millions who are binationals). Back in the days Algeria until 1954 if i'm remember well, it was a French colony Until 1962 actu...

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by Thibault973
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

While a massive shot in the dark. Could we see someone like XL Airways (they do also own La Compagnie which the current CEO founded and sold to XL) take them over for both their slot portfolio and using some of the aircraft to expand either XL or La Compagnie? XL are not in great shape themselves s...

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by Thibault973
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

There are too many small French airlines (Aigle Azur, Corsair, Air Caraïbes, French Blue, La Compagnie, XL Airways). I'm sure a consolidation of some of those airlines will help their financial statements... Don't agree - Aigle Azur was an airline specialising on flights to Maghreb countries, which...

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by Thibault973
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations
Replies: 72
Views: 11958

Re: Aigle Azur at risk of ceasing operations

There are too many small French airlines (Aigle Azur, Corsair, Air Caraïbes, French Blue, La Compagnie, XL Airways). I'm sure a consolidation of some of those airlines will help their financial statements... Don't agree - Aigle Azur was an airline specialising on flights to Maghreb countries, which...

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by Thibault973
Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WDL flying for easyJet
Replies: 11
Views: 2235

Re: WDL flying for easyJet

WDL has been flying BAe 146 for U2 out of TXL for months, nothing to do with bucket and spades or the max.

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by Thibault973
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: SFO bans sale of plastic water bottles
Replies: 95
Views: 7888

Re: SFO bans sale of plastic water bottles

Only in America do companies get away with selling tap water paid for by taxpayers. Sorry but Europe is 10x worse. I just came from a 2 week vacation in Portugal and they don't even give you tap water in restaurants there. It's always bottled water served in plastic bottles. The Europeans' addictio...

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by Thibault973
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:45 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Truly terrible Airlines of the past and present
Replies: 54
Views: 4242

Re: Truly terrible Airlines of the past and present

In Spain, i remember an airline called Air Madrid. They used to operate flights to Latin America and Caribean but their schedule was very unreliable. Almost every day, you could see riots at airports because of stranded passengers. They disappeared in 2006. It was later replaced by Air Plus Comet i...

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by Thibault973
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Truly terrible Airlines of the past and present
Replies: 54
Views: 4242

Re: Truly terrible Airlines of the past and present

Surinam Airways, hands down. It's in its own category. While it has dramatically improved the last few years it used to be soooooo bad. You'd be lucky if it was only late, and not canceled altogether. Airplanes were (are ?) in horrible condition with seats falling appart and the catering was beyond ...

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by Thibault973
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: SFO bans sale of plastic water bottles
Replies: 95
Views: 7888

Re: SFO bans sale of plastic water bottles

https://www.citylab.com/life/2015/02/the-single-best-reason-that-boxed-water-is-better/385138/ Here is some more information on the boxed water trend. It is more environmentally friendly It's still one of the biggest legal scam: it's just tap water, that's filtered. Its carbon footprint is a real d...

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by Thibault973
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French Bee has become an A350 only airline
Replies: 26
Views: 7340

Re: French Bee has become an A350 only airline

I flew TX’s 359 in W yesterday and something I noticed and made me cringe is that they pretend in their onboard magazine to have both 330s and 359 “dans la configuration la plus spacieuse » which translates to “in the most spacious configuration”...when they are literally the only airline out there ...

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by Thibault973
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEVEL to increase flights from Barcelona to USA and Chile
Replies: 27
Views: 5332

Re: LEVEL to increase flights from Barcelona to USA and Chile

Well, I think that's gone. PA announcements are pre-recorded and all start in English and then Spanish now. I was flying VY on BCN-MXP earlier this month and they did make pre-recorded announcements in Catalan too in addition to Spanish and English so not sure where you heard that they didn't? Alwa...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group posts 1H loss on LCC competition, fuel costs
Replies: 90
Views: 11528

Re: Lufthansa Group posts 1H loss on LCC competition, fuel costs

Just wondering, but how can you describe Swiss as a mess when the airline has delivered the best EBIT margin numbers of all airline units in LH Group? Anything that undermines the current business model of LX/WK will put at risk its dominant market position in Switzerland and its ability to exploit...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transavia France
Replies: 11
Views: 2263

Re: Transavia France

LaunchDetected wrote:
It's time to order the MAX with heavy discount.

A320 in Transavia would be unlikely, given the training costs.


Actually TO has been operating 320s from AF mainline for the past summers. Don’t know about this season tho. There are a few pictures of 320s in full TO coulours in the database.

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94730

Re: AF to order A220, replace A380 with 787 or A350?

T4thH wrote:
And there is Transavia,(shared by KLM and AF) exclusive flying B737. Pretty sure, this will not change.


Transavia France and Transavia Holland are two separate companies. TO is now 95.51% owned by Air France S.A (while it was 50% AF, 50% HV before).

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: YUL looks like a mini DOH
Replies: 19
Views: 6628

Re: YUL looks like a mini DOH

AT also offers connections beyond CMN to the rest of French speaking Africa. In 2018, 1/3 of newcomers in Quebec came from Africa, mostly from French speaking Africa.

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA pulling out of VVI
Replies: 48
Views: 8015

Re: AA pulling out of VVI

I recall they flew JFK-VCP on a 763, but don't remember DFW. VCP never made any sense. It may as well be in Argentina, with how much of a pain it was to get to. While it's definitely used as an alternative airport to GRU, VCP actually serves Campinas, home to 3,6 million people. Campinas is also th...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines flight attendant bitten by emotional support dog
Replies: 88
Views: 10787

Re: American Airlines flight attendant bitten by emotional support dog

I have only once come accross someone with an emotional support dog, and she was American. Never heard of such a thing before. A quick search tells me that AF do in fact accept emotional support dogs in the cabine if a psychiatrist note is provided. TO on the other hand refuses them on board. Weird ...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94730

Re: AF to order A220, replace A380 with 787 or A350?

A bit simplified but in general, especially within EU, without moving the actual activities, you cannot move the revenue streams. Go tell that to Amazon (over 1b in revenue in France for a mere 60 millions of profits), Google and the likes, apparently they are not aware that you can't move revenue ...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94730

Re: AF to order A220, replace A380 with 787 or A350?

Oh please. AFKL loads KL costs onto AF so that more money is made by KL who enjoys a lower tax rate in the Netherlands compared to AF in France. That part ! Funny how this piece of info, which is readily available and actually pretty smart is always overlooked on this site by self proclaimed financ...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair / Air Iceland Connect using Dash 8 "transatlantic"
Replies: 51
Views: 10138

Re: Icelandair / Air Iceland Connect using Dash 8 "transatlantic"

devron wrote:
Can speak for the Q 400 but you can find some adventures routings in the south pacific flying ATR 72-600 from Fiji to Tuvalu I think that is almost 3 hours. Just a random fact....


Air Tahiti operates from PPT to Hiva Oa (AUQ) in the Marquises Islands with the AT7, flight time is 3h20.

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by Thibault973
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cabo Verde Airlines starting IAD
Replies: 30
Views: 5258

Re: Cabo Verde Airlines starting IAD

At one point they were always the cheapest option to FOR from Paris. Never tried it but I have a couple of friends who had horrible experiences flying them so I stuck with the usual TP via LIS and AF/AD via CAY until AF finally opened a direct flight.

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disruptive passenger triggers Fighter jet escort & sonic boom.
Replies: 46
Views: 7460

Re: Disruptive passenger triggers Fighter jet escort & sonic boom.

In seriousness I was part of a group heading off to Ibiza for someones 50th. The flight was early morning. So we went down the night before. Had a single room booked in the hotel across the way from Gatwick terminal and sat in the bar all night chatting and drinking - with the drinks being on the r...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Passenger on AA from KIN-MIA asked to deboard to change from her romper outfit
Replies: 117
Views: 8188

Re: Passenger on AA from KIN-MIA asked to deboard to change from her romper outfit

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tisha-rowe-black-woman-says-american-airlines-crew-made-her-cover-up-outfit-with-a-blanket-2019-07-11/ https://dfw.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15909545/2019/07/houston-doctor-american-airlines-cover-up.jpg By my judgement, Dr. Rowe's romper outfit did need to ...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Belgium launches flights to FDF/PTP, MIA and FIH
Replies: 11
Views: 2373

Air Belgium launches flights to FDF/PTP, MIA and FIH

So it seems like Air Belgium has abandoned their plans to return to Asia and will be launching instead flight to Guadeloupe (PTP) and Martinique (FDF) in the French Caribbean. Sorry, couldn't find a link in english but here is one in french : https://www.dhnet.be/actu/belgique/air-belgium-va-relier-...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B6 to start JFK-PTP
Replies: 61
Views: 8492

Re: B6 to start JFK-PTP

Only surprise that FDF isn't added as I thought that they were a bit better known in the northeast USA than PTP. Been to both and quiet frankly Guadeloupe has much more to offer. 1st of it's an archipelago when Martinique consist of one somewhat overurbanised island. Guadeloupe proper consists of 2...

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by Thibault973
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More US-Brazil flights?
Replies: 87
Views: 9463

Re: More US-Brazil flights?

What American thinks Brazil is dangerous? Was there in April. Wondered all around Rio and São Paulo without a care in the world. Drove down the coast similarly care free. People who read travel warnings and that stuff are really missing out on life. Good for you. I'm not American, grew up in Brasil...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America
Replies: 105
Views: 19396

Re: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America

[ JPA is indeed a small market, and close to REC, but to say an airport with 1,4 million domestic passengers can barely sustain any domestic flights work is a ridiculous exageration (26th busiest airport in a country with circa 110 airports with regular commercial flights)... BTW Campinas now gets ...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America
Replies: 105
Views: 19396

Re: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America

Yes, definitely. I've heard rumors that João Pessoa (JPA) and Maceió (MCZ) are in the pipeline. And I would guess that São Luís (SLZ) would be likely too. If they couldn’t make Manaus and Campinas work, I really can’t see how they could make Joao Pessoa, which is only 120km from Recife and can bare...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France, Norwegian Air and Lufthansa Intend to Start Flights for Pakistan - Aviation Minister
Replies: 45
Views: 6578

Re: Air France, Norwegian Air and Lufthansa Intend to Start Flights for Pakistan - Aviation Minister

I do know every year French business group come to Pakistan to explore new ventures etc, I don't know the trade numbers between the two companies. I know Sanofi a French company has big set up in Karachi, also French car companies are setting up plants in Pakistan. If Air France ever returned it wo...

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by Thibault973
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French Bee has become an A350 only airline
Replies: 26
Views: 7340

Re: French Bee has become an A350 only airline

With the transfer of their lone A333 to sister company Air Caraïbes, BF is now relying on their 3 A359s. https://www.planespotters.net/airline/French-bee Here's the A333 in hybrid livery. Is it just a summer sub or a longer term thing, I don't know. However it seems TX has another A333 (F-GOTO) sto...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China's big 3 airlines in nasty undeclared war for advantage in Beijing due to new Daxing Airport
Replies: 3
Views: 1931

Re: China's big 3 airlines in nasty undeclared war for advantage in Beijing due to new Daxing Airport

I actually like the idea of airlines only being able to operate at one airport. The split hub operations in cities like Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo, and New York aren’t great. Airlines selling connections that require a bus, train, or taxi across town is not passenger friendly. Yet no one at all forces ...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B6 to start JFK-PTP
Replies: 61
Views: 8492

Re: B6 to start JFK-PTP

https://m.la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/guadeloupe/jet-blue-va-remplacer-norwegian-724908.html# Information in French only for now but apparently B6 will begin seasonal flights from JFK-PTP 3x weekly from November to April. If anyone else has any further insight or other sources/links in English, please f...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B6 to start JFK-PTP
Replies: 61
Views: 8492

Re: B6 to start JFK-PTP

https://m.la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/guadeloupe/jet-blue-va-remplacer-norwegian-724908.html# Information in French only for now but apparently B6 will begin seasonal flights from JFK-PTP 3x weekly from November to April. If anyone else has any further insight or other sources/links in English, please f...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Southern eyes world domination and puts Oneworld plans aside
Replies: 25
Views: 6246

Re: China Southern eyes world domination and puts Oneworld plans aside

I don’t know about dominating the world but I have 2 flights coming up with CZ to Australia and both have been cancelled and rebooked. And for both flights I have yet to receive any email or info in any shape or form from them. How do I know both flights are cancelled then ? Well both inbound and ou...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France, Norwegian Air and Lufthansa Intend to Start Flights for Pakistan - Aviation Minister
Replies: 45
Views: 6578

Re: Air France, Norwegian Air and Lufthansa Intend to Start Flights for Pakistan - Aviation Minister

I do know every year French business group come to Pakistan to explore new ventures etc, I don't know the trade numbers between the two companies. I know Sanofi a French company has big set up in Karachi, also French car companies are setting up plants in Pakistan. If Air France ever returned it wo...

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by Thibault973
Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PY to replace A340 with B777
Replies: 45
Views: 11189

Re: PY to replace A340 with B777

Can A330 fly the route? For the -200, in a typical 2class layout, for sure. But the demand for cargo will be the problem... Otherwise, will PY keep the SQ interior? Could be a real game changer, compared to the A340. Why ? TX flies the 332 and 332 on their ORY-CAY route in high densities config wit...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study
Replies: 147
Views: 22105

Re: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study

Pretty much everyone says you can make money on A380 if you can always fill it, but very few can. Not that it means anything but I have flown the 380 twice on AF, to ABJ and JNB and all 4 legs were full to the roof. I know for a fact that there wasn't a single seat left on the ABJ-CDG leg because a...

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by Thibault973
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study
Replies: 147
Views: 22105

Re: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study

I'm not familiar with the AF interior. On this forum I gather it's pretty dated though. Well it depends really, all 25 77E and 19 out of 43 77W feature the "best & beyond" interior which to me is one of the best out there, in all classes (1-2-1 in J). All 15 332 are also currently bei...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study
Replies: 147
Views: 22105

Re: Air France delays A380 cabin refit; future of fleet under study

High density re-config for the Antilles and Pacific islands, a-la ANA? How many of those destination see more than 1 daily 77W? I only find RUN, FDF and PTP. They could combine the plane in this configuration with KL to add CUA. The good thing is these destination aren't very frequency sensitive. B...

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by Thibault973
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways named Skytrax airline of the year
Replies: 99
Views: 11516

Re: And the Skytrax airline of the year is ..

Give me Turkish Airways which serves a hot meal and freshly squeezed orange juice on European flights over any of the Euro carrier ranked above it any day of the week.

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by Thibault973
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A list of world's Top 10 intercontinental longhauls by pax traffic for 2018. LHR dominates again
Replies: 16
Views: 3020

Re: A list of world's Top 10 intercontinental longhauls by pax traffic for 2018. LHR dominates again

What's the frequency of ORY-PTP? Although flown on very high density config, is surprising to see it right there with LHR-SIN which sees 6-7 daily on 388 and 77W and ahead of the likes of HKG-SYD or MAD-JFK which see 5 to 6 daily widebodies. LF on ORY-PTP must be crazy This summer - Air Caraïbes : ...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM strategic review
Replies: 24
Views: 5673

Re: Air France-KLM strategic review

As I posited earlier, it seems to me more likely that the company more or less wallows on as an enterprise that exists for social benefits other than the enrichment of its shareholders—making modest profits in good times and recording significant losses in bad times. What do others think? Is that e...

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by Thibault973
Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM strategic review
Replies: 24
Views: 5673

Re: Air France-KLM strategic review

People tend to forget that between 2002-2006, AF was the biggest airline in Europe and the most profitable one. In 2005 Air France was leading the European market with a 17 % market share in front of Lufthansa (16,2 %), British Airways (16,1 %) when KLM was 1/2 it's size with a 9,9 % market share. ...

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