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by LawAndOrder
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 2020 Q2 results
Replies: 56
Views: 11527

Re: AA Q2 results

What I found very interesting on the Q2 earnings call and confirmation of what I’ve been saying for a while is: “Our hubs excluding the Northeast that is New York and Boston and the West Coast produce unit revenue premiums of 10% to 12% higher than the industry, indeed has grown since the time of o...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta-LATAM sign JV Agreement
Replies: 60
Views: 12793

Re: Delta-LATAM sign JV Agreement

Wow. Fascinating. So Delta is all hands on deck for its Miami expansion even post-COVID. Yes! Plus I don’t think LA’s entire MIA network is going to come back - EZE gone, secondary Brazil is doubtful. It is going to be interesting to watch DL fight AS at SEA, B6 at BOS and AA at MIA - all when dema...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11
Replies: 138
Views: 30015

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

More than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they don’t have agreements in place/ aren’t working t...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11
Replies: 138
Views: 30015

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

DL investment airlines seem to be doing well... This is a common refrain around here lately, but I don't think the strategy was bad overall. Delta has been a value investor in other airlines - they have consistently stepped in to make investments in struggling carriers that unlock value by bringing...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11
Replies: 138
Views: 30015

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

How does DL's investment get treated in a CH11? More than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat May 30, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United eliminates 13 executive positions
Replies: 50
Views: 14311

Re: United eliminates 13 executive positions

Can’t have one Ua topic without bringing up Delta. Focus on UA employees and not DL.

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 28, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 380664

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So, the enhanced retiree package (age+ yrs service =70) is basically about 6 months of severance pay, 8 positive space tickets, 6 special retiree flight listings, above regular retirees but below active employees. 1 year normal flight privileges. 2 years medical/dental/vision. I know i'm missing a ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 310
Views: 65453

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

The Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 310
Views: 65453

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

LATAM USA’s social media accounts have announced a Chapter 11 filing. Bloomberg has picked up the story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-26/latam-airlines-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-stymied-by-lockdowns EDIT: added Bloomberg link I bet heads are exploding in Atlanta. Delta just had...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 310
Views: 65453

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

The Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun May 24, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 310
Views: 65453

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

It’s crazy how so many people here speak opinions as fact. LA would be able to recapture the AA feed with delta adding flights to the top 20 markets in MIA. I think people believe that AA brought more to LA than they really did. That was why it was so easy for DL to take them away. It wasn’t just th...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat May 16, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 122836

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

DL future longhaul widebody fleet will be 330/350. It seems many people cannot Accept that. Re the alleged killer deal. Airbus could even offer a better deal as Proven by Boeing - UA. You aren’t accounting for 767 replacement. All routes can’t support a 333/339 the 332 imho cost to much to operate ...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 15, 2020 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 122836

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Has any airline expressed the desire to retain what had been their standard long-haul markets pre-covid? That's a pipe dream, and should most certainly not be the expectation anywhere. DL has 26 359s and 32 339s on order, which is more than enough to cover various iterations of a long-haul network ...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 14, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 122836

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

A few things people are considering. When syd and jnb returns I doubt it will return (atleast close in) with the same amount of demand. Thus the higher variant 350s would be enough with minimal seat caps as I doubt they would be completely full. In 2-3 years I’m sure airbus would have an even higher...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 01, 2020 5:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260648

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

[url][/url] Sadly the MD-88s and 90s, as well as the 717, was all that was keeping me loyal to Delta (well that and being in SLC) since I have to fly to the east coast every weekend 6 months per year. Delta is not what it used to be service wise and seems to have lost its way. With these beautiful a...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1173
Views: 193915

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

I have to say, I flew on an Oasis 321 and it was very nice. The bins were like nothing I have ever seen on a narrowbody airplane in the US. They were enormous. Did Airbus make those bins specifically for AA? It is really shocking how big they are. Also, power and USB ports at every seat. The tablet...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA uniform launches today
Replies: 54
Views: 8498

Re: New AA uniform launches today

[twoid][/twoid] Its really amazing how people are so against it...too much time on your hands. It's a NEW uniform. It's nice, fresh and sharp. I noticed it early today in my flight and good for them. The flight attendants were smiling and were proud of it. Jeez..move on. The only person upset is Par...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA uniform launches today
Replies: 54
Views: 8498

Re: New AA uniform launches today

I literally don’t think you could get more generic. I’m surprised they would do such a big splash. I was searching on IG and was like man why haven’t anyone posted yet then I realized oh That is the new uniform. I don’t understand how people don’t like the tailoring or cut of DL uniforms especially ...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Announces SEA-LHR For 2021
Replies: 128
Views: 16907

Re: Delta Announces SEA-LHR For 2021

Cointrin330 wrote:
Delta feeling the heat? Didn't they cede the route to VS a while back because the VS product is more appealing to the tech folks that would use this route?


They now have new product so they are back.

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Announces SEA-LHR For 2021
Replies: 128
Views: 16907

Re: Delta Announces SEA-LHR For 2021

Together with SEA-DFW, this screams desperation by DL. Looks like DL planning is having sleepless nights and weekends - I wouldn’t be surprised if PDX-LHR disappears soon and all eggs go into the SEA basket. Agreed. I'd love to know if DL has made any money at all in SEA. They thought they could co...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA
Replies: 115
Views: 15817

Re: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA

Everyone is saying how greet of a product/experience GOL has. Guess who implanted their leaders to get the carrier to where it is? For those with short history all of the recent product and club enhancements came with Delta. So when LATAM was AA partner it was so good and now that they have broken u...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA
Replies: 115
Views: 15817

Re: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA

Interesting that this did not involve a financial investment in GOL by AA. Might prevent GOL from being bought out from under them like LATAM. Still, smart move by both airlines. These is just for optics GOL will bring very little for American. They did little for delta and little for American in t...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA
Replies: 115
Views: 15817

Re: AA Announces Codeshare With GOL + Increases MIA-GIG/BNA/BOS/IAH/MCO/RDU/TPA

Interesting that this did not involve a financial investment in GOL by AA. Might prevent GOL from being bought out from under them like LATAM. Still, smart move by both airlines. These is just for optics GOL will bring very little for American. They did little for delta and little for American in t...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns
Replies: 77
Views: 12137

Re: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns

Just to refresh everyone's memory, this was the previous uniform. Very professional and Incorporated Delta's historic colors quite well. It didn't conjure up images of Barney or Grimace like the current poor excuse for a uniform. https://i.postimg.cc/RZRWNK6r/28194-E83-A225-4-A7-C-99-E7-A934-CA56-A...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns
Replies: 77
Views: 12137

Re: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns

intotheair wrote:
crjflyboy wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Sounds like some union shenanigans.


DL FA's are not in union


Exactly.


I’m pretty sure it was meant that it was a plow by the potential union to give people a reason to organize. I wouldn’t disagree.

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns
Replies: 77
Views: 12137

Re: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns

Should go back to what they had before, or hire Old Navy that did VA America and go from there ... whomever made the decision at DELTA to switch to the purple costumes will be out of their job Employees were on design teams, there were focus groups, they were field tested and employee feedback was ...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns
Replies: 77
Views: 12137

Re: DL launching new Uniforms amidst health concerns

Should go back to what they had before, or hire Old Navy that did VA America and go from there ... whomever made the decision at DELTA to switch to the purple costumes will be out of their job Employees were on design teams, there were focus groups, they were field tested and employee feedback was ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

Listen do y’all think delta didn’t do seat shows. Have their most loyal customers, influencers to come sit in the seats ahead of the final design. I’m sure they have done their research and it appears their demo has asked for privacy, increased storage but with the same width as before. Delta likel...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

It’s the same pitch as their other domestic first class folks. I think it’s just the one angle. It’s weird that delta hasn’t put an official statement out or more details. The current pitch is tight, tighter than almost every other US operator except AA’s Oasis. Nearly every first class current sea...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

Listen do y’all think delta didn’t do seat shows. Have their most loyal customers, influencers to come sit in the seats ahead of the final design. I’m sure they have done their research and it appears their demo has asked for privacy, increased storage but with the same width as before.

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

It’s the same pitch as their other domestic first class folks. I think it’s just the one angle. It’s weird that delta hasn’t put an official statement out or more details.

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

It looks like everyone still gets one unobstructed window. Hard to tell from the pictures, but those seats appear to have significantly less "cushion" than the older types (which has been a trend on many carriers for years). It looks like there's another divider between the seats, I wonde...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20854

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

I really like them. Delta has made it very clear they are standardizing seat pitch so I am sure it has the same pitch as the CEO and 739. It also appears this is based on the same seat that AS just implemented in their first class which is actually one of the best domestic American first class seats...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Improves Project Oasis First Class
Replies: 33
Views: 5622

Re: American Airlines Improves Project Oasis First Class

Honestly, American, Delta, and United have all gone to 30" pitch in the Main Cabin. I agree the partition is a major improvement; Delta hasn't done it nor has United (and Delta's Commuter fleet doesn't have anything between the Premium and Main cabins. 6PS4^0fA What delta plane has majority 30...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Improves Project Oasis First Class
Replies: 33
Views: 5622

Re: American Airlines Improves Project Oasis First Class

Honestly, American, Delta, and United have all gone to 30" pitch in the Main Cabin. I agree the partition is a major improvement; Delta hasn't done it nor has United (and Delta's Commuter fleet doesn't have anything between the Premium and Main cabins. 6PS4^0fA What delta plane has majority 30...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address
Replies: 25
Views: 4676

Re: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address

I'm curious the ways in which Delta lags their competitors in technology? I can think of some key technological items that DL was first on and some still exclusive to Delta or that their closest competitors can't match, for instance, now over 80% of Delta's fleet has AVOD. Most of delta's fleet has...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address
Replies: 25
Views: 4676

Re: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address

You all are missing the point his talk was on the future of air travel as Delta sees it. It set a North Star for what the organization is and should be working on. No one knows how far along they are in any of the fronts and I think that was intentional. The video was aspirational yet had no details...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address
Replies: 25
Views: 4676

Re: Delta CES 2020 Keynote Address

TPG did a nice review of it from a half-full perspective: https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-air-lines-ceo-ed-bastian-ces-2020-las-vegas/ Followed by the normal Gary Leff half-empty style: https://viewfromthewing.com/delta-ceo-ed-bastian-gave-a-ces-keynote-what-tech-changes-did-he-reveal Both were...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta changes rules on FA uniforms
Replies: 20
Views: 6994

Re: Delta changes rules on FA uniforms

I think the issue is more US based. We tend to be more entitled while giving the bare minimum. I would say from personal experience 80% of the complaints are not about comfort, fabric/health concerns but more about personal taste. I’ve never seen an industry quite like the US airline industry. Where...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019
Replies: 776
Views: 175091

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019

https://news.delta.com/delta-selects-airbus-a321neo-narrowbody-fleet-renewal According to the press release the A321neo's will have 197 seats ( 20F, 30E, 147Y). Yes a row of six. With the new exit configuration they were able to gain a row but keep the leg room the same 31 min pitch. Aren't the 321...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019
Replies: 776
Views: 175091

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019

It is interesting to watch DL continue to hone the 100ish seat operation as they renew the fleet. They are now able to take advantage of the A220's low cruise fuel burn by putting it on many routes in the 2-3 hour range. Then they move the 717s to the Eastern and Midwestern hubs on mostly sub-2 hou...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019
Replies: 776
Views: 175091

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2019

A pilot recently said there may soon be a 220 base in SEA. Things will get even more interesting when the 32N and 223 come online, which I think is late spring and through summer 2020 perhaps? I can’t believe Delta is putting so many seats in the 321 neo, that thing is going to be as tight if not t...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Converting 50 seat RJs to RJs with first class?
Replies: 32
Views: 4995

Re: Converting 50 seat RJs to RJs with first class?

Given the recent move by United to introduce the CRJ550, I was wondering if there is a market for the same with the plethora of smaller RJs? I know the economics are different, but say if it was a 4F 10 Y+ 30Y would that work. For example, if there was an 80 LF on a 50 seater could some of that be ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta buying 20% of LATAM
Replies: 867
Views: 126274

Re: Delta buying 20% of LATAM

GOL come on you’ve got to be kidding us. They gained so much more from Delta than revenue. Do some research on flight patterns, turn procedures and a whole slew of other things (including clubs) that miraculously got better when they partnership with Delta strengthened. Yes they have more flexibilit...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AFA trying to unionize FAs at Delta
Replies: 503
Views: 38319

Re: AFA trying to unionize FAs at Delta

If unions have been so great for UA and AA why doesn’t that translate to job satisfaction. Majority of UA and AA employees seem like they hate their employers. Southwest has done a better job with a union. People think you vote a union in and everything changes. That is the furthest from the truth. ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AFA trying to unionize FAs at Delta
Replies: 503
Views: 38319

Re: AFA trying to unionize FAs at Delta

Delta FAs will be unionized soon. At the cost of being the only workgroup on the property who doesn't get the same profit sharing payout, most likely. Don't think for a moment that management will allow them to keep the same profit sharing - it will be negotiated as part of a CBA, and won't be anyw...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why does Delta have such a weak intl presence?
Replies: 35
Views: 6638

Re: Why does Delta have such a weak intl presence?

It is incredibly weak because they've outsourced their entire international network to the lowest bidder using their JV network. Meanwhile, United has rapidly grown to overtake Delta in the International arena and even AA which is otherwise in decline is starting to beat DL in the international sce...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Expansion From JFK to Latin America?
Replies: 28
Views: 8394

Re: AA Expansion From JFK to Latin America?

I doubt it. Yields on NYC-Northern South America are generally trash. If so why AA deploys it flagship 77W with true F class in GRU-JFK? I don’t think so. But please give details. Sao Paulo is not Northern Latin America, but regardless, the statement that NYC-Northern South America yields are trash...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines & Gol Negotiating Partnership
Replies: 29
Views: 7291

Re: American Airlines & Gol Negotiating Partnership

^^^**** You seem to have your timeline a bit off. DL invested in G3 in 2011, at that point DL and G3 became partners. When LAN and TAM merged they did not choose an alliance until 2013, at which point LATAM as a joint entity stayed in OW . Before that TAM was in STAR and did not cooperate with AA. ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines & Gol Negotiating Partnership
Replies: 29
Views: 7291

Re: American Airlines & Gol Negotiating Partnership

^^^**** You seem to have your timeline a bit off. DL invested in G3 in 2011, at that point DL and G3 became partners. When LAN and TAM merged they did not choose an alliance until 2013, at which point LATAM as a joint entity stayed in OW . Before that TAM was in STAR and did not cooperate with AA. ...

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