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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 22991

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

c933103 wrote:
Turkey and ME3 are focusing on long haul travel.


I wouldn't call the EK's bread-and-butter flights to the subcontinent "long haul travel." And TK flies to nearly every city of any size in Eastern Europe (not to mention its domestic catchment).

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 22991

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

VSMUT wrote:
It also takes anywhere from 3:18 to 4:10. The proper HSR doesn't run between Köln and Amsterdam.


What the heck are you talking about? I took an ICE train from Cologne to Brussels a few months ago. There were also ICE trains going to Amsterdam. And I personally took one about two years ago.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

Wrong. When the overhead space is full or the aircraft type cannot accommodate larger bags, it is a demand. Trust me, I've seen many people offloaded because they were second to last to board and tried to "refuse" gate checking their large roller. In a way, I suppose part of your statemen...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

GatorClark wrote:
To reply to the OP, what makes you say this HAD to be intentional..


I've no idea whether it's intentional -- but it's clearly negligent. Look up "res ipsa loquitor," champ.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

I can sympathise with her, when moving from France to Spain, my mom carried all of her jewellery in her carry on. The Transavia gate agent had her check in her bag at the gate saying the couldnt accomodate any more carry ons on the plane even though she told them she had valuables in it. Well you g...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

aumaverick wrote:
Lessons learned:
1) Don't pack priceless heirlooms carelessly in a roll-aboard, regardless if carry-on or not
2) Remove all valuables before checking a bag
3) Don't buy cheap luggage from off-price retailers


Lesson 4: some posters on a.net are privileged dicks.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

...the passenger should not have put anything of value in the bag to begin with. Once DL insisted that she check her carry-on, where should the passenger have put her heirlooms? In that portable invisible hole we all carry around with us? Maybe she could have transported the heirlooms home to Canad...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta luggage abuse
Replies: 107
Views: 11521

Re: Delta luggage abuse

Who packs a "priceless heirloom" in checked baggage? Someone who "planned to carry on her luggage but was told by airline representatives at the airport she needed to check it" (verbatim from the article). And while it is good that Delta has "reached out to her directly to ...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF447 - 10 Years Later
Replies: 96
Views: 17510

Re: AF447 - 10 Years Later

I remember it like it was yesterday. Back then AF had 2 flights from GIG on most days, AF443 operated by a 744 and AF 447 with the 332. As I was scheduled to fly on AF447 about a month after the accident, I immediately changed my flight to be on the 744 flight instead. I remember telling the agent ...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA chose CPT over JNB?
Replies: 26
Views: 4949

Re: Why did UA chose CPT over JNB?

UA is not in the habit of starting ultra-long haul routes that are low-yielding (i.e., that cater primarily to tourists).

Therefore, UA probably thinks there is an untapped business market in CPT, even if smaller than in JNB. After all, CPT is still an important city, not some backwater.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 23032

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

Back in the old days, Everybody going to Europe from the United States connected thru New York. This is not entirely true. European airlines served ORD, IAD, LAX, SFO, IAD, BOS, and MIA. (James Bond famously flew on an LH 707 from AMS-LAX, which was a real-life flight.) Unsurprisingly, these remain...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun May 19, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't Delta fly ATL-PEK?
Replies: 21
Views: 3819

Re: Why doesn't Delta fly ATL-PEK?

BoeingGuy wrote:

I totally agree with you. It’s like the threads, “Should XX start ABC-XYZ?” My thought is usually, “Now why didn’t they think of that?”


Because markets are not always completely efficient.

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by SurlyBonds
Sun May 12, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: At DL flying is a family affair
Replies: 58
Views: 6822

Re: At DL flying is a family affair

People on the outside have no idea how socially engineered flight decks are these days. White males need 6x the experience of a minority to get hired. According to The Hill, a DC newspaper that leans conservative, "4.1 percent of airline transport pilots (ATPs) are women, 2.7 percent are black...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun May 12, 2019 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: At DL flying is a family affair
Replies: 58
Views: 6822

Re: At DL flying is a family affair

Varsity1 wrote:
People on the outside have no idea how socially engineered flight decks are these days. White males need 6x the experience of a minority to get hired.


More outright racism and hate speech on A-Net. Joy.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Solution for drones over airports?
Replies: 53
Views: 3981

Re: Solution for drones over airports?

Here's an idea. Death penalty for operation of an unauthorized drone near an airfield. In the US, the Supreme Court has held the death penalty unconstitutional in the case of rape. This will never pass muster, and if you know anything about death penalty jurisprudence you would know this. So sugges...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Solution for drones over airports?
Replies: 53
Views: 3981

Re: Solution for drones over airports?

Elementalism wrote:
Gun registration fails as well.


How? Countries with gun registration see fewer mass shootings than the US.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IBERIA resumes service to Guayaquil with non-stop flights
Replies: 18
Views: 3319

Re: IBERIA resumes service to Guayaquil with non-stop flights

MalevTU134 wrote:
a350lover wrote:
Will this mean the return of Iberia to “secondary” ports in South America? May we see them back in Cordoba or Cali?

There is nothing secondary about Guayaquíl. It is the biggest and economically most important city of Ecuador.


More than Quito? I didn't realize that.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

If you can get them to pay attention by showing something actually attention-grabbing, you can hope they will retain a shred of information. Slim hope, but better than nothing. I'm not sure that retaining a shred of useless information really makes anyone better off. That TK video where Batman cont...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

what really concerns me about the latest safety videos I saw on my last two trips: TK in April and TG in March. They have nothing to do with aircraft safety, IMHO. It might be big fun to watch these LEGO toys (TK) and this lunatic young woman in the jungle (TG) but just imagine these airlines would...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu May 09, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 44% say wont take MAX for a year?
Replies: 96
Views: 7958

Re: 44% say wont take MAX for a year?

boeingguy1 wrote:

In the end, 99% of the flying public can't tell what type of plane they are flying on without a safety card or announcement.


Please cite your source for your 99% statistic.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Armadillo1 wrote:
yes, it may be passport, may be not only, is it matter?


Because it may be tempting to grab internal passports during the evacuation (and more so than "generic" documents). It can be hard to get anything done without one. I have no idea how easy they are to replace.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 6:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

People really took hand luggage from the shelves, but only because it was still impossible to go. “I had the documents there, it was I who grabbed them and, when the movement had already begun, I went ahead.” One point that the translation misses: "documents" in Russian refers to internal...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

xmp125a wrote:

Geez people, how did you travel in 90ties? I remember pretty well that nothing larger than 5 kg was allowed on the plane back then.


You remember incorrectly. Wheeled luggage was around back then, and garment bags were certainly around back then. It was certainly more than 5kg.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Finally someone said it.... I'm all for figuring out how to stop people taking hand luggage on an evacuation, but I'm dead set against stopping hand luggage altogether. There's no "finally" about it; I said as much upthread! But to avoid any confusion: I completely agree, for two reasons....

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Maybe not trillions, but I wouldn't be surprised if the cost would be in the hundreds of billions. Even at only 10 million per runway, for the 17500 runways with IATA codes worldwide, that's 175bn. And that's only construction. I realize this is a bit hypothetical, but that said, don't golf courses...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 08, 2019 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

People really took hand luggage from the shelves, but only because it was still impossible to go. “I had the documents there, it was I who grabbed them and, when the movement had already begun, I went ahead.” One point that the translation misses: "documents" in Russian refers to internal...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
...laptops can be easily replaced, paid for by the airline insurance
....Insurance (again)
....charge it to the airline.


I suggest you have an overly optimistic view of what airlines are actually willing to reimburse when it comes to lost luggage.

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

I see, so you're another keyboard warrior who doesn't understand the first thing about human psychology in stressful situations. You can't reasonably hold anyone accountable for a panic response that they have no control over. Your personal attacks aside, that's for a court to decide. Far be it fro...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

In law there are offences that carries "strict liability", that is you do not need to possess a certain state of mind before you are guilty of the offence. Strict liability means liability without fault, not liability without the required mens rea. There are some strict liability crimes a...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

I'm of the absolute conviction, that my convenience should never eclipse the safety of my fellow passengers. If I can't bring my lap-top onboard, I'll have to improvise, adapt and overcome. While we're at it, let's flip all seats 180-degrees, so that pax face the rear of the plane. That's safer, too.

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

Really sorry that your (insert relationship here) was trapped onboard and perished. Several people panicked and decided their wardrobe was of paramount importance. You're still framing this as a rational choice on the part of the luggage-clad pax ("deciding their wardrobe is of paramount impor...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 07, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

So, what's the point on all of this? A benefit to everyone, both the Amateurs (who can now take all their wardrobe to their Beverly Hillbillies holidays in Orlando) and for the Experts that have good room for their computers and personal items, that are so urgent to retrieve at their destination. S...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

After we turned off the runway, I walked her back to her seat and we were all good! But that is the type of passenger that you have to plan for. It would not work to tell her how an overhead bin emergency locking mechanism would work. Clearly it was not all good; she should have been prosecuted for...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

WildcatYXU wrote:
I was only taking a small briefcase containing a small laptop, a book and headphones+phone accessories aboard.


Gotta love the virtue-signalling in this thread.

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

If something or some policy caused death in an accident, it is worth to be looked at and researched, regardless how often it happens. Ask the people who suffered tragic death in Manchester, in Shenzhen and in Moscow. Safety issue is not about the frequency, but about how to prevent it happening aga...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.
Replies: 127
Views: 8815

Re: A much needed debate on carry on luggage.

frmrCapCadet wrote:
one possibility is to make it known that in event of an evacuation any bags wrongly carried will be confiscated immediately, and return not guaranteed.


Pretty much guaranteed not to stand up in court, even if you could get people to cooperate in "surrendering" their bag.

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

I am suggesting no such thing. All I said is that IF someone died due to my actions (be it the pilot or the person grabbing their bags) then I am still liable, even if it is unintentional. When it comes to criminal prosecution, this is an oversimplification. Crimes such as manslaughter still requir...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

No one watches safety demos. The only solution is for the overheads to go. Just one case of a death due to a misplaced bag that contains life-sustaining medicine (e.g., insulin for diabetics) will more than outweigh whatever is to be gained by this. Out of genuine curiosity wouldn't bags like that ...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 06, 2019 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

speedbird52 wrote:
No one watches safety demos. The only solution is for the overheads to go.


Just one case of a death due to a misplaced bag that contains life-sustaining medicine (e.g., insulin for diabetics) will more than outweigh whatever is to be gained by this.

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by SurlyBonds
Sun May 05, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 816
Views: 139826

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

Maybe if they get charged for criminal neglect others will think before grabbing their bags & killing someone over crap you can replace. I doubt there would be any deterrent value. Few air passengers would keep abreast of the proceedings and be aware of the precedent. Furthermore, if an inciden...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 01, 2019 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'I had to crawl': Amputee seeks damages after United Airlines and airport security seize scooter batteries
Replies: 82
Views: 10804

Re: 'I had to crawl': Amputee seeks damages after United Airlines and airport security seize scooter batteries

More accurately, a failure of the customer to read in advance what is approved for transport (lithium batteries can never go in the cargo compartments) but blame the airline anyway. I feel for the guy, but we have lost a lot of personal accountability in our modern society. I suggest you read the I...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 01, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'I had to crawl': Amputee seeks damages after United Airlines and airport security seize scooter batteries
Replies: 82
Views: 10804

Re: 'I had to crawl': Amputee seeks damages after United Airlines and airport security seize scooter batteries

Yay. More customer service failures in the Aviation forum.... More accurately, a failure of the customer to read in advance what is approved for transport (lithium batteries can never go in the cargo compartments) but blame the airline anyway. I feel for the guy, but we have lost a lot of personal ...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines could return to Tel Aviv (TLV)?
Replies: 50
Views: 7652

Re: American Airlines could return to Tel Aviv (TLV)?

TLV tends to attract two types of fliers. One is the religious Christian group that goes on pilgrimages to the Holy Land.... The second group is the Jewish population. Tel-Aviv is a very important business destination, especially in industries such as tech, mineral processing, and agriculture. It i...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:44 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Shortest domestic flights
Replies: 38
Views: 4195

Re: Shortest domestic flights

simairlinenet wrote:
FYI, the longest (nonstop) domestic routes all involve HNL: BOS, JFK, EWR, ATL, DTW, ORD. The longest otherwise is Aeroflot's Moscow-Petropavlovsk.


Paris to Reunion? I would have thought that was longer (which the Great Circle Mapper confirms), and I thought AF flies it.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:46 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9033

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
It was pretty unacceptable for Frontier to not be apologizing, this lady should have not been disruptive.


The lady was not disruptive *in the least*. And be honest: would you lob that accusation at her if she were white?

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9033

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

Is anyone stunned to learn that the passenger was a woman of color, and the FAs and arresting officers all white? Really? You're really going there? If by "going there" you mean "calling out racism," then yes. As I hope we all would be. I hate seeing ignorant comments like these...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9033

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

Although I recognize that the video does not include the interaction with the F/A, I have a difficult time reconciling the video with the airline's statement. Based on the statement and the video it's reasonable to conclude that on Frontier anyone who insists that vomit be cleaned up is made to lea...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1781
Views: 356637

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

The swoop line still looks purple to me even though it's United Blue - have to see it in person to get the proper visual. The detail work on the tail shown in a couple earlier posts is terrific. UA did exactly what Munoz said this would be - an evolution, not a revolution. And IMO they pulled it of...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes
Replies: 48
Views: 5998

Re: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes

Albuquerque is a truly wonderful city and even a seasonal flight to someplace such as LHR could really improve tourism. There is so much to see and do in that city and it just feels underserved. However, Like San Antonio, there are major airports nearby where you can connect in to get to whatever E...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will/Should Boeing Have a Top Management Change?
Replies: 30
Views: 2697

Re: Will/Should Boeing Have a Top Management Change?

There are several departments that could use a good scrubbing, namely Flight Technical and Flight Training Development, along with moving Flight Training back to Seattle where it belongs. To do that, several people would have to admit previous errors and that will never happen. I don't particularly...

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