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by SurlyBonds
Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:42 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Unusual airline routes
Replies: 34
Views: 1851

Re: Unusual airline routes

IAH-SVO-DXB was always weird to me. I think you're mistaking this for IAH-DME-SIN on Singapore Airlines. And the rationale for it was easy: connect three cities that were very important to the energy industry and more-or-less lay on the great circle route. (The fact that NASA has some traffic from ...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size
Replies: 89
Views: 6185

Re: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size

Actually, I'm quite aware of such a concept. What you may be unaware of is the DC Metro does not equate to airlines, i.e. air carriers aren't public transportation services. A fundamental argument in this issue is that too often, folks like to compare air carriers to public transport systems when t...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size
Replies: 89
Views: 6185

Re: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size

All of you that said it won't get out of committee, you're right; if you understand how Congress worked funding bills they don't go to a normal committee at all. This is a must pass bill, and the house and senate members have already agreed to this.. I thought this was an authorization bill (and th...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size
Replies: 89
Views: 6185

Re: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size

Back to pre-1978 we go... Just remember: airlines will do all these things if the public is willing to pay appropriately. You're apparently unaware of the idea of "collective action problems." There are plenty of regulatory outcomes that obtain if, absent regulation, people would pay for ...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size
Replies: 89
Views: 6185

Re: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size

Many people here know how things were before deregulation. We also know just how expensive it was to fly back then. Before deregulation, the CAB allocated routes to carriers. An airline couldn't fly just anywhere it wanted; it had to get CAB permission. In practice this often meant a duopoly on rou...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Aviation September 2018
Replies: 157
Views: 13398

Re: Turkish Aviation September 2018

LAXintl wrote:
(SFO was largest and launched in 2016).


That can't be. I flew TK SFO-IST in November 2015. And it was not a hot-off-the-presses route then.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia
Replies: 63
Views: 7005

Re: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia

There is huge potential here. MAD-WAW-NRT is 1,482nm shorter than via Dubai. It's also about 60 miles longer than MAD-FRA-NRT, and 10 miles longer than MAD-MUC-NRT. So what this plan rests on is basically creating an "EU4+TK" rather than an EU3+TK. Why do the existing hubs not suffice? If...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA May End Ticket Changes If Congress Limits Fees - Bloomberg
Replies: 206
Views: 13633

Re: AA May End Ticket Changes If Congress Limits Fees - Bloomberg

I see many arguments here about what a 'reasonable' change fee is, whether they are justified with 21st century technology, whether they are justified because Southwest profits without them, and under what circumstances they 'should' or 'should not' apply. My question: Does the answer to all of the...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia
Replies: 63
Views: 7005

Re: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia

This is an opportunity to put Warsaw on the map a la Singapore, Hong Kong, or Dubai. Lightsaber You are being far too aviation-centric if you think that opening an airport, in and of itself, put any of those cities "on the map." Singapore and Hong Kong were major financial centers thanks ...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia
Replies: 63
Views: 7005

Re: Bloomberg: Poland Wants Its Planned Airport to Be a European Gateway to Asia

Another vanity project triggered by national pride rather than a business case, reminds me of that airport near Madrid that never saw a single aircraft. Ultimately, yes, it's ambitious, and yes, it has white elephant written all over it. But for an aviation market to take the next step, they have t...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No flights from SFO/SJC/SEA/PDX to all of South America? And just 1 to Central America?
Replies: 44
Views: 2792

Re: No flights from SFO/SJC/SEA/PDX to all of South America? And just 1 to Central America?

Any background on this? No demand. Hmmm. The Bay Area, the 5th most populous metro area of the United States and home to almost 9 million people including the world's primary tech hub and a major UA fortress hub, doesn't have any demand, yet you can fly to Costa Rica from Baltimore? Exactly. Color ...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumours about Air France US expansion
Replies: 82
Views: 10154

Re: Air France Us expansion

compensateme wrote:
I think your “friend” made this “rumor” up. KLM ended service to DFW in 2015, and DFW is not a slotted airport.


Compensateme needs to change his name to "egg on face, shoulders, and upper half of body."

Quit being so rude.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019
Replies: 173
Views: 9746

Re: Aer Lingus rumor - announcement 9/12

If MSP is indeed one of the cities why would IAG send EI from DUB first instead of BA from LHR when there has to be more O&D to London. I understand DL already has flights to LHR, but BA would have so many connection options that EI @ DUB doesn’t. Plus wouldn’t a 788 be a better plane to open a...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019
Replies: 173
Views: 9746

Re: Aer Lingus rumor - announcement 9/12

Ireland is a country of 4.7 million people. That's about the size of Alabama in terms of population. Why would they need routes to those destinations, especially when a connection in London is half an hour flight time away? In case you're unfamiliar with Ireland, I'd highlight two points which easi...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot seeks to capitalize on Moscow as sixth-freedom hub
Replies: 44
Views: 5698

Re: Aeroflot seeks to capitalize on Moscow as sixth-freedom hub

BREECH wrote:
Oligarchs are not government. Gosh, will westerers EVER understand as much about Russia as they talk about it?


Are you being deliberately obtuse? There are plenty of oligarchs deeply connected to the government, such as Potanin, Usmanov, etc.

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot seeks to capitalize on Moscow as sixth-freedom hub
Replies: 44
Views: 5698

Re: Aeroflot seeks to capitalize on Moscow as sixth-freedom hub

Also, the airline and/or airport staff will need to manage any racist tendencies to avoid an incident like the one that occured recently with the American/Indian pax transiting Moscow... I’m sure that can match US and India levels of racism pretty quickly ,,,, should not be a problem You'd be very,...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Rename PHX
Replies: 53
Views: 4440

Re: Rename PHX

dfw-man wrote:
McCain intl sounds good to me


As a Democrat, I fully endorse this proposal. The man is a patriot and this would be a fitting honor.

And so what if it sounds a little like "McCarren"? All those pesky Irish names, they're so damn alike...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pax urinates on other pax on ANA flight
Replies: 39
Views: 9242

Re: Pax urinates on other pax on ANA flight

I was recently on a 4-hour night flight (LH from Frankfurt to Beirut) and could not sleep five minutes because of two drunk young ladies in the row just in front, who kept moving, laughing and trying to talk to me, and yet getting more wine from the f/a every time they asked. But they were doing no...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4838

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

Freshside3 wrote:
And US carriers are generally ignorant and narrow-minded, when it comes to assessing the USA-Greece market.


Also known as "they don't want to lose money."

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by SurlyBonds
Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trans-Atlantic Berlin
Replies: 96
Views: 11279

Re: Trans-Atlantic Berlin

In any case, Berlin is not that bad as many posters point it here. I.e. Berlin has the strongest population growth in Germany, and that is partially due to tech companies establishing in the city, government jobs and also more non-bank financial institution that are looking for a better lifestyle c...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential of a Boeing+Embraer j/v?
Replies: 37
Views: 5047

Re: Potential of a Boeing+Embraer j/v?

dtw2hyd wrote:
Boeing has already too much on its plate. Its focus should be mainly on 737MAX quality, 787 sales and MoM development. Also dealing with the not to be named new yuge plane. Selling Jungle/Barbie jets should be last on the list.


What is the "new yuge plane" you're referring to? 777-9?

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Should United bring back the Tulip?
Replies: 115
Views: 12103

Re: Should United bring back the Tulip?

I'm a die hard lover of the tulip and would love to see it come back, but that ship has sailed. I keep hearing the assertion that the "the tulip's ship has sailed,", but I've got to ask: why? If JAL can bring back the crane, and Air Canada the rondel maple leaf (admittedly not wholly aban...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seasonal LCC Flights Between Europe and Hawaii?
Replies: 38
Views: 3936

Re: Seasonal LCC Flights Between Europe and Hawaii?

Not a huge market from HNL to Europe. Hawaii is west coast centric and DFW mega-hub connections. Europeans have the Med., Azores, and Indian Ocean that are much closer and cheaper. Plus, they don’t have to deal with the 1% of American A-hole, know-it-all, tourists. Setting aside your stereotypes ab...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MOL: "Norwegian 'gone' in 4-5 months"
Replies: 136
Views: 27661

Re: MOL: "Norwegian 'gone' in 4-5 months"

Evidence of safety violations? The world is multi cultural as is US. No one complains about all the tech employees imported here to Seattle, but somehow air crews can't be sourced world wide? I think it's clear, however, that some cultures are more safety-conscious and detail-oriented than others. ...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent UPDATE: CX announces HKG-DUB, HKG-BRU and HKG-CPH
Replies: 264
Views: 37537

Re: Cathay Pacific multiple

I'm not talking about Budweiser, Miller, Coors, or any of the other mass produced beers. They're terrible and I do not drink them. However, American craft beer is excellent and there are smaller breweries that now distribute nationwide and, I believe, internationally. Those beers absolutely approac...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent UPDATE: CX announces HKG-DUB, HKG-BRU and HKG-CPH
Replies: 264
Views: 37537

Re: Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent UPDATE: CX announces HKG-DUB, HKG-BRU and HKG-C

I beg to differ. There are plenty of great beer cities in the US making excellent beers that are, by and large, superior to the ones the three announced destinations are most famous for. In Belgium you can walk into a cafe and see a 32 page beer menu. They are not craft beers, they are well establi...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent UPDATE: CX announces HKG-DUB, HKG-BRU and HKG-CPH
Replies: 264
Views: 37537

Re: Cathay Pacific multiple "beer related" new destinations imminent

raylee67 wrote:
Are there any destinations in North America you would think as "beer related"?


Denver.

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Fiji Airways become the Icelandair in the South Pacific?
Replies: 56
Views: 9925

Re: Could Fiji Airways become the Icelandair in the South Pacific?

:banghead: Terrible idea. Take a look at a map. You'll see Fiji is hardly a convenient central point. Also go read those dozen threads about why Hawaii wont be a similar hub either. Huh? Without commenting on the other issues raised in this thread, NAN is almost exactly on the great circle route be...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?
Replies: 63
Views: 9785

Re: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?

Maybe it would be more useful to compare these loads to LH, NH and HU. I assume part of the point of these routes is that some folks will pay a premium to avoid the knife fight that is a trip up the 101 and have a better airport experience. If that's the case for all of these carriers (except argua...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which has the better long-term strategy: Emirates or Norwegian?
Replies: 39
Views: 6207

Re: Which has the better long-term strategy: Emirates or Norwegian?

Low Cost Long Haul is the future whether we like it or not I'm not yet convinced. People have been speaking about low cost long haul for a long time and there have been few successes. Even AirAsiaX ended up being more of a medium haul rather than long haul player, and only now reentering the long h...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is the ME3's expansion sustainable long-term?
Replies: 32
Views: 4367

Re: Is the ME3's expansion sustainable long-term?

What country would allow EK (since you mentioned DXB) to set up a hub on their soil at the expense of their own airlines? I can't think of a single country in any of those geographic regions that would allow for such a proposal, especially Europe and East/SouthEast Asia. 77H The profile would be (1...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seat size regulations in the US
Replies: 176
Views: 13213

Re: Seat size regulations in the US

bigjku wrote:

Anything beyond that is just government babying.


Also known as "something bigjku doesn't like."

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seat size regulations in the US
Replies: 176
Views: 13213

Re: Seat size regulations in the US

I think it's time for regulation. It doesn't have to be overly onerous either. Minimum pitch should be 31" and 17" seats on wide-bodies shouldn't be permitted. DL does just fine with 9x 777s. 787s should be 8x instead of 9x. The airlines have received unlimited gravy from the Feds for yea...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA Seeking Money From Disruptive Passenger
Replies: 18
Views: 2699

Re: HA Seeking Money From Disruptive Passenger

Aloha All, $110,000 is a hefty chunk of change for your average citizen. I did a bit of quick research and it appears that restitution in this particular instance (criminal case) cannot be discharged should the defendant declare bankruptcy. Definitely an eye opener case for other would-be disruptiv...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta moves seat of Ann Coulter
Replies: 317
Views: 34997

Re: Delta moves seat of Ann Coulter

With all due respect, you are in Iceland, yet you are arguing American contract law with American lawyers. DL did not do anything wrong under the Contract of Carriage. Is there a reason why various state statutes based on the Uniform Commercial Code (which is largely open to rewriting form contract...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines considers cancelling New York route
Replies: 46
Views: 11981

Re: China Airlines considers cancelling New York route

I also think that two major international carriers for Taiwan likely impacts yields for both BR and CI. I was under the impression that there is a political element to the fact that Taiwan has two carriers -- that Kuomintang supporters usually flew CI, and Democratic People's Party supporters fly B...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 797 factory location?
Replies: 35
Views: 5973

Re: 797 factory location?

Being that Tesla is one of the better example California has it kind of makes the point of major companies like Boeing getting the hell out. I'm afraid I don't follow. Tesla considered locations in South Carolina and New Mexico for its Model S and ultimately opted for Fremont. The California econom...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 797 factory location?
Replies: 35
Views: 5973

Re: 797 factory location?

Unlikely. Places like long beach only have a future as defense production facilties where the costs can be considered a 'favor' to politicians of a certain district. California as a whole has some of the highest labor costs and most burdensome labor regulations in the United States. A commercial pr...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue May 23, 2017 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAX Accuse WN of Homophobic Discrimination
Replies: 35
Views: 6464

Re: PAX Acuse WN of Homophobic Discrimination

Story found here: A little pedantic on the ops agent's part? Maybe, but it is the policy. If the policy is being selectively enforced, it most certainly is discriminatory. (Also, I would think that pre-boarding an 83-year old grandmother is a textbook case of "when airlines should be flexible ...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed May 10, 2017 7:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Agent Canceled His Reservation Because He Filmed Her in Bag Dispute
Replies: 163
Views: 15773

Re: UA Agent Canceled His Reservation Because He Filmed Her in Bag Dispute

As a Customer Service Agent for a major airline, I have learned the flying public will not tell the truth. When they are wrong and the conversation is not on their side they then start recording. First off, how *dare* you? No one in the flying public tells the truth? Ever? That's incredibly presump...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 08, 2017 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23127

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight

Good post. We can't assume anything about Dad quite yet. It may turn out he's an attention-seeking prick who understood perfectly the CoC and was willing to put his wife and two toddlers through this ordeal in a clandestine mission to get on TV and/or get DL to pay for his trip. This is the version...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 08, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23127

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight

This is a business, highly regulated but a business nonetheless. I keep hearing some of the pro-FA posters here make this point, or its kissing cousin, "airlines aren't charities!" Yes, airlines are a business. Duh. So what? Is your point that as a consequence of being a business, anythin...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon May 08, 2017 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest
Replies: 162
Views: 12536

Re: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest

If airlines are so keen about customers fully understanding CoC, do NOT allow them to purchase until they confirmed they read it. This sort of contract -- where the customer "has to" sign to function in daily life, and has no opportunity to negotiate terms -- is called a "contact of ...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat May 06, 2017 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Man seated next to obese pax sues AA
Replies: 88
Views: 12646

Re: Man seated next to obese pax sues AA

Go to a buffet and look at the size of the patrons, no salads for them, greasy fried foods, cakes, pies and several trips to the ice cream machine. For many its not an overactive thyroid, but an over overactive fork. Wow. Just, wow. Have you actually bothered to read any scientific research on the ...

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by SurlyBonds
Sat May 06, 2017 8:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will an airport be named after Obama?
Replies: 70
Views: 10021

Re: Will an airport be named after Obama?

kiowa wrote:
We need a law/amendment in the US prohibiting naming any public building or place after any politician..


Of all the things we need in the US, we "need" this why, exactly?

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by SurlyBonds
Sat May 06, 2017 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest
Replies: 162
Views: 12536

Re: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest

This is a common misconception held by the public, the purchase of a ticket does not purchase a right to a seat on a particular flight.


Maybe that's one of the first things we ought to change when we re-regulate the airlines.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat May 06, 2017 8:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest
Replies: 162
Views: 12536

Re: FAs should stop threatening people with arrest

727200 wrote:
. Listening to the 'customer is always right' crowd...


The "customer is always right" crowd? Nice. Then you wonder why the (international) travelling public prefers the likes of EK and SQ to crappy US airlines.

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by SurlyBonds
Fri May 05, 2017 7:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23127

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight for overbooking

I've heard several stories about how other passengers treated the 4 staff members on UA3411 after the Dr. Dao incident. The four staff members deserve every bit of opprobium they got. As for the gate agents for telling the passengers that they would be arrested on federal charges and their children...

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by SurlyBonds
Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Employee Allegedly Hit Mom with Stroller, Challeneges 2nd Passeneger to "Hit Me"
Replies: 274
Views: 22769

Re: AA Employee Allegedly Hit Mom with Stroller, Challeneges 2nd Passeneger to "Hit Me"

...airlines are going to have to adopt a "reason and then delay" policy for situations like this. Front-line employees will be told to calmly explain the policy, procedure or regulation needing to be enforced, and/or action needing to be taken, and if a passenger refuses, it will simply e...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will any of the European big 3 (Lufthansa Group, AFKLM, IAG) unite under a single brand.
Replies: 61
Views: 7365

Re: Will any of the European big 3 (Lufthansa Group, AFKLM, IAG) unite under a single brand.

I agree that the major brands, by which I basically mean BA/IB, AF/KL, and LH/LX are likely to survive for the foreseeable future. I do suspect, however, that we may see some rationalization of the more regional brands (Air Dolomiti, Edelweiss, etc.) into the parent companies. Branding also requires...

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