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by tealnz
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 In-Service Thread - 2019
Replies: 83
Views: 12288

Re: 787 In-Service Thread - 2019

The ongoing rubbish about the seating onboard the 787 being inferior to other aircraft particularly in leg room is just that rubbish, considering the other flights are operated by A333/772. It all comes back to the specific configuration. The most excruciating long-haul flight I've ever had was in ...

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by tealnz
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 186
Views: 19086

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

SQ to go 5 x weekly on WLG-MEL-SIN from 01 January 2020 https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/114356530/additional-flight-added-to-wellingtonsingapore-service-increasing-flights-to-five-a-week Strange they still haven't made an announcement on a 77E replacement on the Wellington route. Maybe they're still...

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by tealnz
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1061
Views: 147090

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I'm sanguine on the middle of the market. My guess is that sales will take off and Airbus will launch their own 7x in a few years. Airbus will have the benefit of waiting until close to 2030 for a GTF engine, and watching what Boeing chooses in terms of deciding to go a step above them or a step be...

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by tealnz
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 replacement, back on the table in summer 2019?
Replies: 287
Views: 57073

Re: Boeing 737 replacement, back on the table in summer 2019?

The most obvious answer to the NMA/NSA dilemma is the simplest: - consistent with all the info coming from carriers and other informed sources, Boeing launch a 7-abreast lightweight 767 replacement for entry into service around 2025 - NMA is being explicitly designed to prove systems and production ...

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by tealnz
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner
Replies: 90
Views: 15283

Re: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner

Has it been offically confirmed that the 787-10 has gotten this range bump?? I can find no statement from Boeing that this so. We know “The 787-10 is longer and even more fuel efficient. However, the game changer for us has been that by working closely with Boeing, we've ensured the 787-10 will mee...

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by tealnz
Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AeroMexico goes nonstop on MEX-ICN
Replies: 5
Views: 2877

Re: AeroMexico goes nonstop on MEX-ICN

x1234 wrote:
I know the MEX-NRT flights on both AM & NH are always really expensive ($1500+)

$2500 plus at the moment. Both AM and NH must be seeing superprofits right now.

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

What's the next update for A321 series to increase range? How do they get to 5500 nm in range (or 4700 to 5000 nm in real life) Do they need a new wing? If they have a larger wing, would that still allow them to fit into the current A320/B737 category gates? If not, that would be a big problem. Tha...

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

Sorry, but no. Some features of the Xlr will be implemented,in the regular A321 family but the Xlr itself will not get the standard A321 version. The Xlr is a niche bird, the upgrades (new fuel tank e.g.) will have a limited to no benefit for the standard use of an A321 and many disadvantages. The ...

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

The primary disadvantage I see in the XLR vs the base NEO is for those airlines especially LCC's who don't need any ACT's and value the hold space. For those airlines, the RCT just gets in the way. The XLR won't be lighter than a vanilla A321NEO with no ACT's It will also have as a minimum bespoke ...

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

So, are you saying all A321neo would have built in RCT and Airbus would just activate/de-activate it and paper de-rate the MTOW for non XLR ? I doubt it as that'd increase the empty weight (RCT |and trailing edge/flaps, heavier landing gear). The advantage of LR model is that it is basically the va...

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

Sorry, but no. Some features of the Xlr will be implemented,in the regular A321 family but the Xlr itself will not get the standard A321 version. The Xlr is a niche bird, the upgrades (new fuel tank e.g.) will have a limited to no benefit for the standard use of an A321 and many disadvantages. The ...

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR Versus XLR
Replies: 93
Views: 14757

Re: A321LR Versus XLR

Any A32X operators thinking they might have a future need to do long-haul will just go for the XLR for range and flexibility. Flexible MTOW certificates allow them to minimise airways charges. OEW lower than the LR because no ACTs. Extra cargo space compared to LR so more flexibility on regular rout...

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by tealnz
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 291
Views: 27970

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

With NYC, we know it has to be a 789 and not 78J. So your options are... 1. Convert 78J orders into 789 order 2. Add additional 789's onto the 8 78J order by using options 3. Use older 789 frames and re-engine them. Do we know that the GEnX has a real range advantage? The newer NZ 789s have the Tre...

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 291
Views: 27970

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2019

They'd have major runway length issues even if it did have the range, right? Although I don't know the exacts, I came across this article albeit from March 2016 which if you scroll down to page 38, it gives an example of WLG-SIN in a A359 with a takeoff weight 141600kg, 100kg each PAX with 5% fuel ...

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by tealnz
Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RNZAF chooses C130Js to replace its C130Hs
Replies: 29
Views: 2632

Re: RNZAF chooses C130Js to replace its C130Hs

So where does that leaves things on
- McMurdo
- NH90 deployment?

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share
Replies: 116
Views: 35314

Re: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share

There are some real issues around the MAX including the regulators’ actions. But if you look at the NG, 777, 330neo and 320neo it’s not obvious to me that there are demonstrable systemic problems.

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share
Replies: 116
Views: 35314

Re: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share

I assume we’re all in favour of it ... when it’s properly done.

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by tealnz
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share
Replies: 116
Views: 35314

Re: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share

I imagine Boeing will launch the NMA regardless - the 737 has clearly reached a dead end in terms of future development and the NMA probably justifies itself just in proving technologies and production techniques for a future NSA. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the XLR gets the volume: it’s an easy ...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Operational Weak Spots of the Airbus A321NEO/LR/XLR Discussion Thread
Replies: 92
Views: 34662

Re: Operational Weak Spots of the Airbus A321NEO/LR Discussion Thread

The XLR will be a good test of Airbus’s ability to make incremental improvements without disrupting production, sales or commonality for operators. Wing improvements are one or several big unanswered questions. Just a MAX-style wingtip treatment? Or something more substantial? We haven’t really had ...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: NZ CEO hints longer range 787
Replies: 56
Views: 9986

Re: NZ CEO hints longer range 787

... particularly as they’ve been through two major engineering exercises on the 787 (development of the 789 and then the 78J) since launch of the 788. Weight reduction was a big focus both times.

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share
Replies: 116
Views: 35314

Re: Airbus to launch longer range A321 and not chase market share

New Leeham article https://tinyurl.com/y6n3h8lr has an updated assssment on real-world value of an XLR. Main points: - The larger fuel volume is needed to stay in the air longer than the present nine hours of the A321LR. The A321XLR adds another hour and a half to the A321LR’s capability. This longe...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

From memory the Leeham analysis of a year or two back concluded (with input from Qantas on likely use of a polar route over Anchorage for SYD-LHR) that the route would need an aircraft with still-air range of ~9500nm.

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

We don’t yet have an answer on integral fuel capacity of the Sunrise version of the A35K. You’d expect it to at least take the 165,000 litres of the 359ULR. We don’t know whether that’s the physical limit. Or whether it will require a belly tank. The wing chord on the -1000 is about 400 mm longer t...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

The 777-8 does not need cargo fuel tanks. It has 197,977litres or 158T of fuel. It will comfortably be able to do the route with 25T of payload. The 777-8 burns less fuel than the 777-9. It is lighter and has less fuselage drag. The A350-1000 only has 158,000litres or 124T of fuel. It will need 15-...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Issue is that the 778 is not getting orders and even the current 53 orders – all from ME3 – are starting to look dodgy. NZ wasn’t tempted. QF could go either way – from a whole-of-network perspective the lighter A350 could prove more attractive. And the industry generally seems to be taking a cautio...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

... meanwhile, Seattle Times, quoting Boeing CFO, is reporting possible delay for the 778: In addition, demand for the 777X, and, in particular for the smaller 777-8X version, has been soft and recent sales have been sparse. Boeing will build the 777-9X first and was expected to deliver the -8X mode...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 498
Views: 137679

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Seattle Times is reporting possibility of pushing back the 778 timetable in response to lack of demand: In addition, demand for the 777X, and, in particular for the smaller 777-8X version, has been soft and recent sales have been sparse. Boeing will build the 777-9X first and was expected to deliver...

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by tealnz
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Last I checked the great circle distance for a similar route AKL-LHR was much the same as from Sydney, so it should be do-able. I think that things must have changed since the last time you checked.This morning AKL is more than 800 miles further from LHR than SYD. I think not. Tot up SYD-ANC-LHR an...

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by tealnz
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

If NZ wants to do ULH, it will probably be with high gross weight 787-9s. The rumored 260 t 787-9 would do AKL-JFK just fine, and AKL-Western Europe isn't really realistic even with a Project Sunrise aircraft. We don’t have clarity on that point. It has been reported that QF would use a polar route...

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by tealnz
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Will Airbus move? A321XLR, A322 launching customers..
Replies: 80
Views: 17327

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Will Airbus move? A321XLR, A322 launching customers..

Has anyone seen any hint there’s an XLR-based A322 in the works?

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 66592

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

The MTOW increase gives you less than an hour. Do we have solid info on a GEnX PIP? And 2.5t off MEW sounds a brave assumption: Boeing had two goes (developing the 789 and then the -10) at engineering improvements to take out weight. I’d be surprised if there was much more to be had. Can you cite sp...

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

For those who think QF can’t order enough aircraft to make it worthwhile for OEMs to develop a new variant, Joyce is making it explicit he’s looking at Paris, Frankfurt, Rio/Sao Paulo, Johannesburg and I guess Washington or Miami – from some combination of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. In additio...

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.
Replies: 197
Views: 44724

Re: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.

Airbus will want reasonable production volume for the new XLR pressure vessel. Will they drop the LR and just offer the standard neo and the XLR? Or is there still a market for a neo with one or two ACTs?

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

So the project Sunrise aircraft (as expected here) won't have bunk beds or a gym. It will however have an exercise area and hydration stations Airlineratings https://tinyurl.com/yynsn5fa is reporting it was because of weight. Leaves an interesting question about what form their main deck exercise s...

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.
Replies: 197
Views: 44724

Re: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.

There’s no real hint so far whether an A322 is part of the mix for the XLR. The more relevant point is that an XLR across a range of routes will offer lower OEW (= higher payload), more hold capacity and “payload security” (ability to tank more fuel when needed).

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

flee wrote:
Airbus does not agree with your assessment

And Joyce says both OEMs have aircraft that meet their technical requirements. You going to tell us you know better than the customer?

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.
Replies: 197
Views: 44724

Re: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.

We’re seeing a number of XLR stories coming out of IATA AGM in Seoul. It has the feel of a concerted effort to set the scene for a formal announcement in Paris. On the specifics: - Jetstar CEO is talking of 600nm additional range (over and above the LR) and using the XLR to replace 788s on routes fr...

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by tealnz
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Airbus sales chief says both A350 variants viable for Project Sunrise https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-confirms-both-a350-variants-viable-for-qanta-458641/ think there is a major problem when the manufacturer says that one aircraft which has already been ruled out is viable. The Cu...

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: NZ CEO hints longer range 787
Replies: 56
Views: 9986

Re: NZ CEO hints longer range 787

Boeing did a major engineering job when developing the 789 from the 788. Weight reduction was a key focus. I’d be surprised if there was more than a tonne or so more they can take out of the current spec 789/78J, if that.

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 52884

Re: RUMOR: American to order A321LR

Can’t see why anyone wanting an A321 for trans-Atlantic or other eight-hour plus services would buy an A321LR if the XLR is now on offer (as has been reported). The XLR would reportedly offer up to 700nm additional range and significantly more hold space. It will presumably replace the LR in the Air...

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

You’re welcome to your view mate. And you don’t have to take the ULH option yourself. But there’s not much point debating the merits. The reality is that the market has spoken. Non-stop point to point commands a premium, even in Y, because that’s what travellers generally prefer.

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: NZ CEO hints longer range 787
Replies: 56
Views: 9986

Re: NZ CEO hints longer range 787

So... we should assume a 260t 78J will be a 13 hour aircraft rather than a 12 hour aircraft? Scheduled time for NZ LAX-AKL is 12:50...

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 66592

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

In the past, Boeing's usually reserved appending "-ER" onto models that gain both weight and fuel capacity increases. in NZ configuration will the 78J on routes between US west coast and New Zealand be constrained by fuel volume? I can't answer that question with actual numbers, though I ...

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1333
Views: 230432

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Spec change? I thought Joyce simply said they had accepted that they wouldn’t be able to carry the full 300 pax SYD/MEL-LHR. But on other routes/sectors they’ll still want to carry 300 and that’s how the aircraft will be configured. It’s much the same as what they do on DFW-SYD where they block seat...

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by tealnz
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order
Replies: 292
Views: 53863

Re: Updated, confirmed - Air NZ picks Boeing for wide-body order

Which is why we need to see the actual numbers from Boeing. Right now we don’t know how much MFZW will increase with the higher MTOW.

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 66592

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

No idea whether they will use the ER label. In the past, Boeing's usually reserved appending "-ER" onto models that gain both weight and fuel capacity increases. Definitely haven't found anything indicating that a 789 or 78X would receive any tankage beyond what's already available, just ...

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 66592

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

Boeing will be under pressure to release details on the higher-weight 787-10 they are developing for NZ. Ostrower is apparently reporting it will have an additional 6t of MTOW, taking it to 260t. NZ themselves have alluded to the development but have only said that the version they are ordering wil...

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 66592

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

Boeing will be under pressure to release details on the higher-weight 787-10 they are developing for NZ. Ostrower is apparently reporting it will have an additional 6t of MTOW, taking it to 260t. NZ themselves have alluded to the development but have only said that the version they are ordering will...

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by tealnz
Fri May 31, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 43439

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Will NZ actually buy any 260t 789s? If they can do New York with the current fleet in a QF-style “Code 3” configuration (presumably those with Trent 1000-TENs) they might prefer to use their capital for the 78Js.

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by tealnz
Fri May 31, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 375
Views: 43439

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Seems we finally have an explanation why NZ flipped from a “no way” to a “yes please!” on the 78J. It’s a kind of vindication for the the 78J sceptics. But ultimately a big win for Boeing. Most interesting thing is that Boeing kept it a deep secret that they were finding a way to deliver an hour of ...

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