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by tealnz
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A321NEO and A321XLR Structural and System Changes
Replies: 7
Views: 3684

Re: A321NEO and A321XLR Structural and System Changes

The big structural challenge has to be the centre rear tank. It involves major change to the pressure vessel from the gear bay back for quite some distance. Coupled with increased MTOW and thrust that suggests some complex engineering. We have yet to see any detail on how it will be done. Looks as i...

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by tealnz
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas Project Sunrise developments
Replies: 48
Views: 5166

Re: Qantas Project Sunrise developments

Joyce's comments shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Sunrise is at the heart of his strategy for Qantas long-haul operations – and not just for ULH. Restore competitiveness on Australia-Europe and Americas by offering non-stop service no other carrier can match. Earn a premium on those routes that ot...

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by tealnz
Sat May 16, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not
Replies: 376
Views: 56028

Re: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not

Apart from the original LHR and JFK focus of the original Sunrise concept the remarkably consistent theme in Joyce’s public comments has been his insistence they would be used on other trunk long-haul routes as well - including some shorter Asian sectors. We have to assume a key driver is to have a ...

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by tealnz
Sat May 16, 2020 6:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117414

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

UA reportedly canned the LAX-SYD because the 789 struggled westbound when seasonal winds were at their peak. The new higher MTOW 280t A350s with the improved aero won’t have that problem. Regardless that UA never "canned" LAX-SYD pre-COVID, and no-one has any clue what will happen post-CO...

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by tealnz
Fri May 15, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117414

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

How much cargo was Delta carrying on LAX-SYD or JNB-ATL? I'm not sure about JNB-ATL but UA on LAX-SYD on a 789 can carry a full load of passengers which equates to around 300 bags and around 20,000-25,000 pounds of cargo, the same is true on return leg . The only time the 789 has problems coming ou...

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by tealnz
Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2020
Replies: 317
Views: 27924

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2020

Did hear a rumour very recently that the 78J is being reconsidered... eg order some more 789s and get on with ordering A350/77X It's certainly odd that there has been nothing more from Boeing or other airlines or aviation commentators about the MTOW increase that was supposed to have clinched the 7...

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by tealnz
Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not
Replies: 376
Views: 56028

Re: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not

Some information regarding the configuration on QFs A350s that will run the PS routes. Interesting they say that QF could end up with a fleet of 30 x A350s as more routes are added. https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qantas-sunrise-project-a350-real-dream-machine/ Yes. Some of us have been pointin...

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by tealnz
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155156

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

The A300 seated around 235 - 240 passengers in today’s Big 3 seating arrangements. Couldn’t Boeing build an 8 abreast with an EOW of around 170,000 lbs with a 5,000 nm range? The A300-600 weighs in at 195,000 lbs. Granted new engines would be 7,000 lbs or 8,500 lbs more for larger fans, but with an...

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by tealnz
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:47 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Question about flying between antipodes...
Replies: 6
Views: 1860

Re: Question about flying between antipodes...

Leeham quoted Qantas sources as saying QF would use an eastbound polar routing (roughly over Anchorage) for the Project Sunrise SYD-LHR route to take advantage of tailwinds, with LHR-SYD likewise flying eastbound.

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by tealnz
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LATAM upgauges GRU-MEX to the A350-900
Replies: 28
Views: 3801

Re: LATAM upgauges GRU-MEX to the A350-900

The aircraft is on the ground in MEX between morning arrival and evening departure?

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by tealnz
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will new engine models arrive?
Replies: 14
Views: 2405

Re: When will new engine models arrive?

I'm no expert but I thought it was widely accepted that the GTF had the potential for a serious improvement in fuel burn if PW achieved LEAP-level efficiency in the hot section while the LEAP had the potential for a serious improvement by adopting a geared fan on top of its current hot section.

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by tealnz
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2019 was a good year for Airbus. 2020 will be even better.
Replies: 53
Views: 7332

Re: 2019 was a good year for Airbus. 2020 will be even better.

The shape of the supercritical A310 and A320 aerofoils are quite similar, but the trailing edge of the A310 is very different to that of the A320. An A310neo could use the same centre wing box design as that of the A310-200/-300. However, since an A310neo should be designed with continuous flaps an...

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by tealnz
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A321LR realistic range?
Replies: 11
Views: 2059

Re: A321LR realistic range?

It needs to be said that you can apply Epsilon's methodology to any aircraft with similar results. The brochure range is a still-air range with a secified number of passengers and bags, no cargo and typically a minimalist configuration for cabin and consumables. Once you start factoring in more typ...

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by tealnz
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A321LR realistic range?
Replies: 11
Views: 2059

Re: A321LR realistic range?

It needs to be said that you can apply Epsilon's methodology to any aircraft with similar results. The brochure range is a still-air range with a specified number of passengers and bags, no cargo and typically a minimalist configuration for cabin and consumables. Once you start factoring in more typ...

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by tealnz
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45207

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

astuteman wrote:
The A330 has turned a corner, and by definition it is the NEO that is driving that.
The A330NEO has secured 99 net orders in 2019, 24 more than the 75 that the 787 had secured up to end of November, including the 30 for EK

Hard to argue with the numbers.
:knockout:

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by tealnz
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family
Replies: 38
Views: 8787

Re: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family

I don’t know about “more capable” in the 80s and 90s. The 320CEO isn’t noticeably more capable than the 738. And the original 321 was more or less a 2,000 km airplane in revenue service. I expect that Airbus foresaw that engine technology would get qualitatively better; it’s hard for me to believe ...

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by tealnz
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family
Replies: 38
Views: 8787

Re: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family

Whilst there was doubtless hard work involved, we shouldn’t underestimate the effect of dumb luck. The 320 lends itself well to a 321/MoM-sized derivative, but I don’t think that was on the radar in the early days; it’s a happy coincidence that the opportunity was there and Airbus could seize it. I...

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by tealnz
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family
Replies: 38
Views: 8787

Re: A reflection on the first 9 years of the A320NEO family

Great programme. Great article! It’s always tempting to see derivatives like the neo as the easy stuff. But the reality is that corporations all too often fail in their efforts to maintain market-leading position with products and services. And Airbus in its early decades often seemed at risk of bec...

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by tealnz
Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Engineering the XLR
Replies: 2
Views: 1560

Re: Engineering the XLR

You think there might be a change in the production sequence for the XLR? Where might we see a change?

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by tealnz
Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019
Replies: 238
Views: 29705

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019

Good point re NZ aircraft availability, until 2022 they won’t receive any new long haul frames. I've been humming and haring about this for the last couple of weeks but I'll thow it out there. Earlier in December, I caught up with someone very much 'in the know' and very well connected and often hi...

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by tealnz
Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Engineering the XLR
Replies: 2
Views: 1560

Engineering the XLR

So orders for the A321XLR have taken off bigtime since the París show and there’s a lot of speculation about where and how it will be used. But we haven’t seen much discussion on the engineering involved in developing and manufacturing it. What we know so far: - MTOW will go up to 101t - The will be...

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by tealnz
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?
Replies: 126
Views: 21337

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

We will see won’t we, I bang my head to, what will NZ replace the 77W with? Luxon is no longer CEO I don’t think things will change to dramatically, the 787 wasn’t in the running to replace the 77E, that was between the 77X and the A350, the 77X dropped out of the running, guess what, they ordered ...

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by tealnz
Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?
Replies: 126
Views: 21337

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

We will see won’t we, I bang my head to, what will NZ replace the 77W with? Luxon is no longer CEO I don’t think things will change to dramatically, the 787 wasn’t in the running to replace the 77E, that was between the 77X and the A350, the 77X dropped out of the running, guess what, they ordered ...

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Boeing develop a 787-10ER?
Replies: 9
Views: 2235

Re: Will Boeing develop a 787-10ER?

There have been claims that Boeing are already working in it. In their announcement of the 78J buy NZ said: "The game changer for us has been that by working closely with Boeing, we’ve ensured the 787-10 will meet our network needs, including the ability to fly missions similar to our current 7...

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?
Replies: 126
Views: 21337

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

I don't understand all this A.net fascination with range... The 787-10 is an excellent airplane because it provides great payload capacity on a relatively light frame with very good fuel burn with a range that covers (my estimate) 85 to 90% of widebody routes. It will be an excellent transatlantic ...

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?
Replies: 126
Views: 21337

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

Clearly NZ considered cargo demand when replacing the 777-200ERs, and they concluded the A350-900 was Too Much Plane for them. But the 787-10 cannot replace the top-end of 777-200ER performance, so only airlines which don't need the 777-200ER's full performance but do need its capacity will want to...

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by tealnz
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?
Replies: 126
Views: 21337

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

Clearly NZ considered cargo demand when replacing the 777-200ERs, and they concluded the A350-900 was Too Much Plane for them. But the 787-10 cannot replace the top-end of 777-200ER performance, so only airlines which don't need the 777-200ER's full performance but do need its capacity will want to...

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by tealnz
Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada's 777 Replacement?
Replies: 61
Views: 15395

Re: Air Canada's 777 Replacement?

I wouldn't rule out the 789 as a 772LR replacement. I agree with the posters above that the AC 777 replacement decision is a way off, another 5 years. Just need to look at what routes NZ will be/are currently using their B789s on. AKL-ORD and October AKL-EWR. NZs code 2 789 fleet has 275 seats comp...

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by tealnz
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Project Sunrise - Feasible destinations
Replies: 28
Views: 2460

Re: Project Sunrise - Feasible destinations

Anyone thinking that av geeks are techie types favouring evidence-based assessment is going to be let down, badly, by a.net. There’s extraordinary reluctance to accept that new-generation aircraft can do much longer sectors than the 744 generation. And complete refusal to accept that passengers will...

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by tealnz
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030
Replies: 67
Views: 8711

Re: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030

That sounds about right

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by tealnz
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030
Replies: 67
Views: 8711

Re: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030

Nominal seat count being ...? The Airbus announcement was “up to 4700nm” but I seem to recall them citing this as brochure range for an XLR in typical long-haul configuration.

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030
Replies: 67
Views: 8711

Re: Airbus Narrowbody Portfolio Development 2020-2030

The 4700nm range of the XLR includes a single ACT in addition to the new larger rear centre tank. This ACT can only be filled if the passenger load is below 200 seats Everything I’ve seen says the 4700nm range comes just from the additional capacity of the new centre tank (plus the extra MTOW and a...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020

Whether its the A350 or 787, it should not really matter so seriously as in the first place the passenger load will never be above 200 passengers even though Qantas wanted a much higher passenger load and secondly the sunrise project would only require 8 to a maximum of 12 planes only and doubt tha...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020

QF simply won't launch PS in 2020. Do you really think a 319t super large plane full of fuel and merely 200 or so pax can make the business case? When QF is ready, may around 2025, 787 would definitely be in the game. If QF wants to play safe, it should go with 260t 787-9, otherwise, by around 2025...

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by tealnz
Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

One could also ask oneself, why not let it take a refuelling stop on SYD-LHR and MEL-LHR? What's the time loss? 1 hour perhaps? Still beats having to transfer. On the way back you fly direct. I also wonder why QF doesn't do this with the A380. A fuel stop Westbound, East bound it should be able to ...

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential orders for A35KULR?
Replies: 91
Views: 12142

Re: Potential orders for A35KULR?

Talk of a ULR variant risks making this too complicated. The QF announcement implies a slightly higher MTOW and an ACT in the hold. For most practical purposes we’re just talking about another weight variant. Which may well be of interest to current or prospective A35K operators. But it doesn’t rais...

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020

Based on my calcs for the (optimized) Proj. Sunrise route YSSY-EGLL, around 9,225 NM, for a selected flight date (and historical WX),with a typical route HW component: The B777-8 can meet (and exceed) the original Project Sunrise 300 basis passengers. For the noted optimized route, the B777-8 can a...

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by tealnz
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019
Replies: 238
Views: 29705

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019

I still struggle to understand how the armchair experts on a.net understand future fleet needs better than NZ themselves. Luxon said plainly that the 78J wasn’t going to be the 77W replacement – and listed the A350 and 77X as the likely options. It couldn’t be clearer: in light of all the analysis ...

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by tealnz
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019
Replies: 238
Views: 29705

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019

I still struggle to understand how the armchair experts on a.net understand future fleet needs better than NZ themselves. Luxon said plainly that the 78J wasn’t going to be the 77W replacement – and listed the A350 and 77X as the likely options. It couldn’t be clearer: in light of all the analysis t...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, Update: Final decision on PS delayed to Fe

This thread has gone barmy.

If we’re making a call between an a.netter’s gut feel and the CEO’s declared strategy and procurement plans I say the CEO’s words prevail. It’s not complicated.

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by tealnz
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, Update: Final decision on PS delayed to Fe

A bunch of a.netters were struggling to accept that major acquisition decisions like PS involved a negotiation between airline and OEMs. Maybe this news will help them come to terms with commercial realities.

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by tealnz
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chile's SKY Airline orders 10 A321XLR
Replies: 31
Views: 5455

Re: Chile's SKY Airline orders 10 A321XLR

Has anyone come up with a payload/pax number for the XLR with full tanks?

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by tealnz
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019
Replies: 238
Views: 29705

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - December 2019

The UA 789 was a late sub with no reason other than aircraft availability. The 78J today was sitting at 156,600ib of fuel (around 72t) to SFO and was pax load full and some cargo (although it didn't have much payload left at all compared to the 789/77W, so I don't think that's so dire, just the ope...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85108

Re: Sources: United ordering 50 A321 XLR

Company intranet says 45 A350-900 remain on the books for 2027. I think the ultra-long range aircraft are running out of opportunities. I have strong doubts the Australia and NZ stuff is that great and I see no India. HKG/MNL/JKT/KUL are all low yield fringe from the USA. This segment may fade fast...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85108

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

UA have explained the rationale for taking the A350s from 2027. From Business Insider: As part of the agreement signed Tuesday, United also deferred the first delivery of its order for 45 larger Airbus A350 wide-body jets from 2022 to 2027. The deliveries will coincide with the expected retirement ...

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by tealnz
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85108

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

UA have explained the rationale for taking the A350s from 2027. From Business Insider: As part of the agreement signed Tuesday, United also deferred the first delivery of its order for 45 larger Airbus A350 wide-body jets from 2022 to 2027. The deliveries will coincide with the expected retirement o...

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by tealnz
Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

777LR is a furphy. Joyce has been clear all along that Sunrise is central to QF's future long-haul strategy and its brand. Kicking off PS with a bunch of last-generation 777s – a model considered and rejected by a previous generation of QF management – sends all the wrong messages, even if they coul...

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by tealnz
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - November 2019
Replies: 284
Views: 29187

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - November 2019

No. On the basis of the information we have seen there is no justification for leaving passengers on the aircraft for that length of time. Risk management is central to current operating philosophy of both customs and quarantine in NZ. If what we are talking about is allowing passengers to disembark...

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by tealnz
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 395
Views: 53204

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

Technically possible but I've never seen any innitiative from Airbus in that direction. I know there were studies and research done ~10 years ago. I can only assume they've been ongoing since. Obviously they never pulled the trigger then - but they will be continually updating the separate concepts...

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by tealnz
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254313

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

What does he do if both the manufacturers say no? This would be quite a fine way for such a big thing to end. Someone floated the theory earlier that Joyce does want it to end, since he knows it really isn't a viable plan. Maybe he wants to end it and is doing so by blaming the vendors. Theres a he...

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