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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

aarbee wrote:
Vistara can originally and efficiently grow based on their two promoters, without changing their business plan because of 9W demise.

That should be organically : "Vistara can organically and efficiently "

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

[ Since you are defending edealinfo's post, that's where all the "crap" started. -R To translate what Arbee openly admitted. If a person holds a differing view, not only will that person be targeted but those not also taking a diametrically opposite position will also be targeted (with Ar...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The current government will never indemnify any investor. Which capitalist market or govt will compensate an investor? Care to point out? They extensively use so-called autonomous agencies to arm-twist businesses. Dusting off cold cases or filing new cases without statutory limits is a common pract...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Re: the sports quota, I am okay with AI sponsoring 203 sportsmen (depending upon who they are and at what level they compete and so on). I mean I don't want any of the National / IPL professional cricketers to be on that pay roll. India doesn't really provide adequate opportunities and encouragemen...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

But hey small town India gets a foreign flight and cheap fares. This has never been about cheap fares for NRIs - many of us are alliance captive and pay premiums to fly our alliance, be it coach or business class. But that story doesn't work for the remarks here. Right here, for some NRI's non-stop...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

^^^ sardar civil aviation minister fulfilling his fantasies with taxpayers money In case you missed the recent news, 235 Million of 1.37 Billion Indians gave him permission to spend. You are saying that as if the remaining 1.135 explicitly did not give permission. Only on this forum it seems that t...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Vistara announces direct flight From Chandigarh To Mumbai and this is its 5th flight from the City.UK seems to be expanding at a stable steady rate,seems pretty good for an FSC. As much as I would want them to link my base VILK to more cities,I wont want them to make haste descisions like 9W did by...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

When slots are precious, tertiary cities are dropped to add frequency for high yield passengers, so this is the logical outcome of slot limitations. Not completely true. Tertiary cities can be money makers actually since they have very little to NIL competition and that's exactly what Spicejet is d...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Ugh, sorry I assumed since this was an aviation board, I wouldn't have to state the obvious. Really, I thought otherwise. Since you were suggesting that "just take 5 planes and start", I wanted bring to your attention that airline business is NOT as easy as you make it sound - "just ...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

US Exim Bank moves DGCA to de-register 6 Boeing 777-300ER's of Jet. . The link below provides details of the repossession plan. It also has some interesting facts: "The US Exim Bank is likely to give the planes to Air India for preventive maintenance. Air India already houses one B777 aircraft...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

ADIGRO GIVES 48 HOURS DEADLINE Threatens to Walk Away https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/business/story/adigroup-still-interested-jet-will-wait-only-48-hrs-1547702-2019-06-12 Even a party that is literally begging to issue a check to restart Jet, is caught in the Indian bureaucracy ...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

ADIGRO GIVES 48 HOURS DEADLINE Threatens to Walk Away https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/business/story/adigroup-still-interested-jet-will-wait-only-48-hrs-1547702-2019-06-12 Even a party that is literally begging to issue a check to restart Jet, is caught in the Indian bureaucracy ...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

ADIGRO GIVES 48 HOURS DEADLINE Threatens to Walk Away https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/business/story/adigroup-still-interested-jet-will-wait-only-48-hrs-1547702-2019-06-12 Even a party that is literally begging to issue a check to restart Jet, is caught in the Indian bureaucracy ...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

What does NG have to do with the sale process? He is out and stepped down. Now, he should be blamed for sticking around so long and allowing his airline to essentially be shut down. But the moment he stepped down, the sale process is owned by the banks and GOI. Remember the sale of Jet is about the...

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by aarbee
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I just can't believe that Vistara isn't jumping in to a few key long haul flights like LON, HKG and on other EU hub where they partner with an EU airline for onward connections. I am all for being cautious but India's largest FSC just shut down. If now is not the opportunity when will? Just take 5 ...

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by aarbee
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I really don’t understand AdiGro. What’s really in it for them? They are eager to write a check without even knowing what the financial payback could be which makes no sense. Are they in for the free publicity? Probably not because the Indian public is, at this point, probably tired of the never en...

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by aarbee
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The burden of proof is not on me. If someone wants to allege illegal activities, or the like, the onus of citing sources is on them. And yes, by constant conspiracy theory shilling, people are screaming bloody murder. This is exactly bothersome because of affinity to beloved Jet Airways. Otherwise,...

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by aarbee
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You got to give the Government points for it brilliant strategy. First, it gives permission for banks to make a deal (so no one can blame the Government for its lack of effort), but at the same time it ensures that Jet is embroiled in various investigations so no one could reasonably invest without...

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by aarbee
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Would you choose Exit Row over Window?
Replies: 18
Views: 914

Re: Would you choose Exit Row over Window?

Usually Window.

But if it is a short haul flight, especially at night time. I might go for more leg room.

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by aarbee
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Was poking around the UK website ans saw something odd on their flight schedules page (too lazy to post a screen shot): Flight# UK0866 Origin: (undefined) BDQ 00:10 Dest: BOM 01:00 Freq: TUE effective 11-Jun - 11-Jun Would this be a ex-9W 737 stored at BDQ? Wow leaving BDQ that late. It would be in...

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by aarbee
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Hearing that Vistara has finally got permissions for DXB, BKK, SIN, KTM, CMB I just can't believe that Vistara isn't jumping in to a few key long haul flights like LON, HKG and on other EU hub where they partner with an EU airline for onward connections. I am all for being cautious but India's larg...

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by aarbee
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

So I think the officially end is upon us.... End of the runway for Jet Airways as Etihad, Hinduja baulk Hinduja halts negotiations, Etihad shelves plan to increase its investment Abu Dhabi-based Etihad was earlier keen to save its investment in Jet Airways, but now that plan is on the back burner s...

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by aarbee
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

And where is that money going to come from if Jet doesn't have any? Jet doesn't have a money printing press and you can't expect NG himself to be running that press. For heaven's sake there was no money to base base salaries and you are talking about skipping provident fund payments? Umm yes, it is...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

1. So we are now discussing physical looks and personal characteristics now ? Trying to find some point to blame them ? How does it matter if they are both Punjabis OR not? 2. Again, have you done anything meaningful in India OR understand the long prevailing workings of the system (Not arguing whe...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

1. In the picture, the Aviation Minister looks like he hasn't slept in 5 days (and correct me if I am wrong, but does each of his eyes have a different color?) Maybe he works a lot. Are Ajay Sing and the Minister both Punjabis? 2. What is it with corporate honchos, politicians and actors, all tryin...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

What is the "deep partnership" that you speak ok? Either a virtual JV (like 9W and Delta had) or a real metal neutral JV. Indian airlines need much more than code shares. They need real access to cheap connecting seats (say from EU to USA) and level 1 frequent flyer tie ups. DL basically ...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

GoI itself committed a lot of law violations in the last six months. But India is not a land of laws where everyone has to follow the same law, it is a fruit/berry republic. Different circumstances call for different laws/rules. Exactly. So-called laws are applied selectively and a company is on th...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Skipping Provident Funds payments is a very serious . And where is that money going to come from if Jet doesn't have any? Jet doesn't have a money printing press and you can't expect NG himself to be running that press. For heaven's sake there was no money to base base salaries and you are talking ...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Most of the violations I cited were within last 6 months. Skipping Provident Funds payments is a very serious Offense. Someone apparently forgot to mention that to NG. GoI itself committed a lot of law violations in the last six months. But India is not a land of laws where everyone has to follow t...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The definition of success changed after 9W. 9W going down without losing one vote is a great success. There are no elections for the next five years, killing AI quickly is a timely thing to do. The silver lining, 6E can breathe easy. We can debate the GoI's "25 years later" investigations...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

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1. I like your bold predictions. If even 50% are right, you will be KIng. 2. Unfortunately, the Government may be defining "success" as selling Air India, not its dissolution. If no one buys it, I suspect it will still be a tire around the Government's neck that politically it will not be...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Regardless of the outcome, I am glad this story will come to an end on June 10. As for the outcome, I am betting Jet will go under. The government has already hinted that it will award Jet's international rights "soon". This leads me to believe that this announcement would be made on June...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

[i]I 1. Meanwhile, SpiceJet head Mr. Ajay Singh is already cozying up to the new Civil Aviation chief. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8Xk9FzUcAAf8L6?format=jpg&name=medium 2. Is also President Boxing Federation of India https://mobile.twitter.com/flyspicejet/status/1136472351703412737/photo/1 1. ...

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by aarbee
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kuwait Airways Retires Last 747-400
Replies: 4
Views: 1429

Re: Kuwait Airways Retires Last 747-400

Monty1988 wrote:
https://youtu.be/pGseN5s_l78

pretty cute , giving her a 'guard of honor "

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 95
Views: 14743

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

Woohoo, what's with the Bubble top helmets of the two FAs on the sides? Did those come standard? That was still the Apollo Era, and art imitated life. https://www.messynessychic.com/2015/01/06/the-1960s-pucci-air-hostess-uniforms-ideal-for-mile-high-stripping/ is a saucy (yet still safe for work) a...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS scraps on board duty free to save weight
Replies: 30
Views: 5439

Re: SAS scraps on board duty free to save weight

Nowadays the only things I buy "duty free" are the special runs of Scotch that are only available in the duty free stores, and are not available at retail in the US. But they are in the airport stores, not on board. So based on my buying habits (again, personal experience warning) SAS is ...

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://twitter.com/airvistara/status/1 ... 3145155588

I am expecting those 2 people already had cordial relations with each other. If they were strangers, :roll: :roll: ....

Leads to a dead page.
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anshabhi wrote:
Kinda cool - Vistara helps man in proposing to a girl and she accepted
https://twitter.com/airvistara/status/1 ... 3145155588

I am expecting those 2 people already had cordial relations with each other. If they were strangers, :roll: :roll: ....

Leads to a dead page.

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by aarbee
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 17728

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

You cannot get LH or AF/KL unions to agree to operate FRA-AMD or CDG/AMS-AMD even there is enough connecting traffic. They are worst than AI unions. All the load factor/yield story is to cover the actual issues. :confused: why would the unions care? If the route is profitable, why would the unions ...

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by aarbee
Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways touches down in Pakistan after 10 years
Replies: 93
Views: 11808

Re: British Airways touches down in Pakistan after 10 years

Haha hilarious,,,love it One checked bag in economy = route won’t last long Just checked BA LHR - BOM route it also 1 bag as well at 23kg in economy, surprise how they manage as other Euro carriers allow 2 bags 23 kg each to India. As far as I remember, AF/LH/KL all allow only 1 checked-in baggage ...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

... I don't know what to say about your idea that the government whole and sole goal was to destroy Jet and now it it is upon it to resurrect it from dead. -R One would think, for a 3T Disney dollar economy, USD3.3B annual revenue company is worth saving. Who are we kidding? BTW, No one is asking i...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I'm under the impression it typically takes about 2 years to place aircraft at market value. (Operators pay a premium for faster delivery, leasing companies must discount to place faster). Huh.. I actually expected more to have found a home. Interesting surplus of aircraft. Lightsaber 1. Wouldn't t...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Interesting how celebs/sportsmen/public figures are still regularly posting on social media of how they miss Jet. https://twitter.com/republic/status/1135082681165701120?s=20 Also , a nice collage of Jet and its beneficiaries below it. Like a buffet their competitors feast on them. https://pbs.twim...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts. People here are making up far fetched fantasy scenarios that are completely unsupported or even directly in conflict with fact. People with no practical working knowledge of business, finance, law, or banking are making proclamatio...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Jet is dead Go celebrate. You could ignore to read posts by the usual suspects you don't like or even add to foe list so posts from those users won't be visible. This is a forum on the internet, not a grand jury testimony to state only facts under oath. Why troll others with dissenting opinions. Yo...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

All this is moot. An airline backed by Etihad, NIIF, Mudabla (Abu Dhabi sovereign fund) and the Hindujas could hypothetically take off. However, right now, there are 2 sticky points with the Hindujas signing on to the consortium (the consortium will be non existent if the Hindujas are not-in, so th...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

. In a week we’ll start hearing increase seats to EK mantra. Is this just a hunch because of the new Government or Minister? The policy so far has to contain DXB-India capacity despite 100% utilization (pre-Jet collapse) because a) Indian carriers wanted capacity-limited for higher yields, and b) I...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Agreed! Companies come and go, nothing is permanent except perhaps the queen of England who seems will never die(lizard person alert!). Jet was a lovely product a decade back, lately, its been terrible and even Air India was a better experience. Concur on that. It was pleasure to fly. I only did it...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I guess India just kissed goodbye to a potential investment in Jet by the Hindujas. I had long been arguing on this forum that potential investors in Jet are being sent a message and the message is on the wall. At least by the end of this week we would know whether Jet will fly again or not. Guess ...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

MCA issues lookout circular against Jet Airways former CEO Vinay Dube https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/mca-issues-lookout-notice-against-former-jet-airways-ceo-vinay-dube-3541591.htm Yikes. Even he's not spared. Which is why we were arguing against the draconian “denied travel” (or whatever) witho...

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by aarbee
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1516
Views: 152081

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Btw, things actually worked out mostly fine for me: DL JFK-BOM (nonstop with suites in J - mom and bro already booked and excited), VS new LHR-BOM (DL partner and previously had great onboard service in J between LHR-BOM), KL increases AMS-BOM with better timings (DL partner - I'm on this flight in...

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