x1234 wrote:jayunited, with the protests in HKG has UA ever thought about expanding into CAN?
YangFeng wrote:The next possible ZRH to US route I personally can see is ORD operated by UA.
Zoedyn wrote:That’s pathetic and despicable.
LH658 wrote:What is the traffic between KIX - ZRH?
Will DFW or CLT - ZRH ever work Swiss? Seems like LH does well from DFW and CLT, and ZRH is Financial hub, like DFW and CLT. Very unlikely. Never say never but for the next five years I'd say: a) The two biggest unserved routes from ZRH to the US are Seattle and Houston, followed by Dallas, Minneap...Jump to post
Swiss CEO Thomas Klühr just announced in an interview that they will start offering services to Washington (IAD) and Osaka (KIX) in March 2020 . https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sonntagszeitung/standard/Flugtickets-fuer-20-Franken-halte-ich-fuer-nicht-vernuenftig/story/15082035 Thanks! Makes a lot of s...Jump to post
Thanks for clarifying. Not sure about A380 handling capacity at Zurich Airport. Would TG have to change their departure time or are they outside of EK/SQ turnarounds? As far as I know, there are only two gates capable of handling the A380, or maybe that has changed?Jump to post
Already swiss will soon announce its new routes! Apparently there are 2! https://twitter.com/FlySWISS/status/1157576841378459648 Hopefully ZRH-KIX will be one of them. Up-gauging ZRH-TYO (they might get their HND slot one day) to 77W is long overdue, but if a new route to Japan comes to pass, it wo...Jump to post
Where should CX fly next in Europe? Munich Possible. Along with the new codeshares, LH has changed the equipment on the MUC-HKG route from A388 to A346, that's about a 200-seat reduction in capacity. Now why would you reduce capacity when you start putting a new code on your flight? https://www.rou...Jump to post
I wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss what Spohr and Klühr are saying as "empty threats". These are clear warnings to airports and regulators: We have four hubs FRA, MUC, VIE, and ZRH and we will go where growth is welcomed/possible. This is a deliberate communication strategy on their part.Jump to post
YangFeng wrote:Rumor has it Sichuan Airlines (3U) will announce their departure from ZRH within the next few weeks despite subsidies.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -aug-2019/
Flights will be resumed from August. PEK-XIY-LIS now, even though they supposedly had such a high SLF?
Any other European routes planned for CA? NCE-PEK and FCO-HGH are very interesting, let's see if this works out. As these routes are catered to Chinese tourists going to the most popular European countries (France/Italy), what about PEK-VCE?Jump to post
I've found it interesting that we've seen some Chinese carriers finally pulling back on routes, capacity, and expansion. CA cancelled PVG/MEL service a few months ago citing competition (MU also flies the route). My sense is that CA is ceding a lot of PVG traffic to MU these days, especially given ...Jump to post
chonetsao wrote:Capacity discipline is high priority with Chinese carriers.
I wonder if you guys consider IST as “long haul”, but CZ also have a PEK-IST route, and it is an eastbound daylight flight blocking 8 hours in flight. Will that go to ZBAD, or will it be canceled? Very likely to go to ZBAD as I believe it has been reported that CZ will be serving the two new mega a...Jump to post
You’re right on CX, however, despite these developments, I still think that GVA has a strong chance. But I agree with ANA, this is also a possible candidate. Last option in my opinion is Shanghai with China Eastern. Chinese ambassador has announced last year that this line is being considered. Now ...Jump to post
Cathay Pacific Route: HKG-GVA, Demand: 41'000 PAX p.a. Likely Aircraft: 359 All Nippon Airways Route: HND-GVA, Demand: 62,000 PAX p.a. Likely Aircraft: 788 China Eastern Airlines Route: PVG-GVA, Demand: 37'000 PAX p.a. Likely Aircraft: 332 Singapore Airlines Route: SIN-GVA, Demand: 40'000 PAX p.a. ...Jump to post
As mentioned by Kottok, next non-European flight to be announced in the coming months is likely IKA-GVA with Qeshm Air (subject to gov. approvals). GVA is hopeful to announce another intercontinental service ahead of the opening of the new long-haul terminal in Q4 2020, discussions with the airline...Jump to post
Has anyone else heard rumors of new LX service to ICN and KIX? Yes, have heard them both. ICN is almost certain and has been mentioned publicly by the CEO as the most likely new route. KIX is being looked at, but I don't think they will end up flying there and instead upgauge TYO with the 77W from ...Jump to post
Is there a known waiting list of some sort of airlines wanting to switch from NRT to HND? I'm particularly interested if European carriers that I often use personally have a decent chance of switching, like AY or LX.Jump to post
When I look at their list of destinations in Europe it is hard to argue that they are all business destinations. DUS lasted longer than I thought it would; and CPH makes sense with the switch from SK. Can we add Moscow to that list? The holes in the network are Scandinavia, Eastern, and Central Eur...Jump to post
Of course, it's impossible to have a thread on Chinese aviation without this political crap. It's a non-event. Two routes got suspended. One was a very wild gamble from the very beginning given the little business demand. The other is in competition with an alliance partner for not that much traffi...Jump to post
I think it's simply a matter of low demand during the winter season. CA operate 3 weekly flights from PEK to GVA and 4 to ZRH .While at GVA these 3 flight are the only one service to China, LX operates from ZRH to PEK and PVG. The flight to PEK is operated as a JV flight with CA, so it makes sense ...Jump to post
That was quick ! When they opened a year ago, they announced they were planning to go daily soon and advance bookings looked very good, so this comes as a surprise. But then of course, which airline manager would say at the opening ceremony of a new destination that prospects for the new flight wer...Jump to post
https://www.travelnews.ch/flug/9348-air ... erich.html
Air China will not be flying to ZRH in the upcoming winter schedule, last flight on Oct 26th 2018, first flight March 31st 2019.
Just thinking about the "holes" in the LX European network from ZRH, which destinations do you think are missing and should be served in future? I thought of following cities/airports: - HEL They tried with a daily flight against four daily flights from AY. I guess they got completely des...Jump to post
Nice little order. I still see Swiss B77W's in HAJ from time to time, which is strange for me. The usual equipment is F100 (operated by Helvetic) or A320. Does anybody know why they still conduct These training flights between ZRH and HAJ, years after introducing the B77W? Fleet utilization with th...Jump to post
"The order includes two Boeing 777-300ER long-haul aircraft for SWISS, which are expected to supplement the existing SWISS fleet beginning in early 2020 and will be used to expand the route network." Does that mean new destinations? I would have thought they will use it for existing destin...Jump to post
Waterbomber wrote:I have come in contact with NH sales in Europe and they're not really good.
First they overpromise and when it's time to deliver on their promises, they start asking questions. Way to treat a potential customer.
I don't think Air China reducing PVG-SJC means SJC is struggling considering they are reducing PVG-FRA, PVG-CDG and PVG-MEL at the same time. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278425/air-china-june-oct-2018-shanghai-long-haul-frequency-changes/ Looks to me like Air China is strugglin...Jump to post
No, RJ are not planning to enter the LCC market. They are introducing some concepts to Jordan already in use in most of the world, such as non-refundable tickets or tickets without any free baggage allowance. He is not talking about partnering with Ryanair either. He is merely acknowledging the poss...Jump to post
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:I've noticed on flightradar that CA has changed the schedule of its PEK-GVA-PEK flights to an early morning arrival and mid-day departure. Any specific reason for that?
davidjohnson6 wrote:I've seen reports that Sichuan Air would extend their current Prague route to also include Zurich from May 2018 but nothing seems bookable yet. Anyone know when seats will go on sale and when the route will really begin ?
After the establishment of PEK-BEG by Hainan, the Chinese government is working on launching PVG-BEG but there was no mention on which airline will operate these flights. Any guesses? Could it be Hainan again? After Serbia suspended the visa regime for Chinese citizens, tourist number have been gro...Jump to post
I don't think inter-continental routes make up much of the growth, especially in absolute terms. Domestic and regional international traffic is what these airport rankings are all about. I think one airport that stands out is Hangzhou HGH with double-digit passenger and solid movement growth and a w...Jump to post
Hainan Airlines planning 2x weekly summer seasonal SZX-ZRH flights on Mondays/Fridays June to October HU741 departing Shenzhen at 0140, HU742 departing Zurich at 1140, Boeing 787 Is Sichuan Airlines still planning to fly to Zurich from end of March? I don't believe that reservations are open yet. L...Jump to post
Interesting. I would have thought IST would be #1 in most countries served with Turkish Airlines claiming to fly to 121 countries. But I guess that makes a lot of their destinations not non-stop?
Adria Airways to announce Paderborn base with ZRH as one of the first planned destinations
http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/02/adr ... -base.html