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by trent768
Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:59 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Concorde droop nose design question
Replies: 14
Views: 2040

Re: Concorde droop nose design question

The right-hand picture (1994) shows Position 3, ... The left-hand picture (2002) shows Position 1, ... Detailed info and drawings can be found on the excellent Concorde SST site: https://www.concordesst.com/nose.html Ah. What an amazing technical design. I was not expecting an articulated visor con...

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by trent768
Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380
Replies: 258
Views: 30002

Re: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380

To me, the problem with the 380 wasn't that the market went away it's that it consolidated into one (1) carrier (Emirates). The expected plan was for BA, LH, AF, KL to order for conx over their hubs to the middle east & India. It was also expecting to se Qantas and Asian carriers to order more ...

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by trent768
Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scheduled airline service to strictly military use bases
Replies: 42
Views: 5462

Re: Scheduled airline service to strictly military use bases

In Indonesia, I believe MLG/Malang fits the description. It was located in Abdulrachman Saleh AFB, home of the IAF Hercules and Super Tucano. Up until a few years ago, passenger must go through military checkpoint before entering the terminal. When I say terminal, it was a small building owned by th...

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by trent768
Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Brussels Airlines New Livery
Replies: 211
Views: 40851

Re: Brussels Airlines “New Chapter”

Boavida wrote:
The new logo:

Image

Source: Aviation24.be

Full presentation of the new brand identity and livery on November 18.

Any reason/story/philosophy behind the bigger dots?

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by trent768
Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and VS A350’s simultaneously depart LHR to celebrate opening of US
Replies: 38
Views: 9211

Re: BA and VS A350’s simultaneously depart LHR to celebrate opening of US

Today was about welcoming UK, European, and other foreign travelers from certain countries back to the USA for the first time since the pandemic began. Americans have been able to travel overseas in some cases but it has not been reciprocal--most non-U.S. citizens have not been able to travel here....

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by trent768
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and VS A350’s simultaneously depart LHR to celebrate opening of US
Replies: 38
Views: 9211

Re: BA and VS A350’s simultaneously depart LHR to celebrate opening of US

Pardon my ignorance, but who was traveling on these US-LHR flights prior to today’s reopening? Was it thru passengers connecting to other countries? Today was about welcoming UK, European, and other foreign travelers from certain countries back to the USA for the first time since the pandemic began...

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by trent768
Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Heathrow: Luggage belt filled with frozen fish crates
Replies: 29
Views: 6675

Re: Heathrow: Luggage belt filled with frozen fish crates

I got off a Merpati 737-200 from Darwin to Kupang (Indonesia) many years ago and half of a cow carcass came around on the belt, neatly wrapped in clear plastic. Also, flights from tropical Broome in Western Australia often have boxes of mangoes (as does the post office!) when they are in season, be...

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by trent768
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Startup plans to electrify BAe146 plane
Replies: 27
Views: 5436

Re: Startup plans to electrify BAe146 plane

Interesting, I have to wonder if it would be possible to run a 146 as a hybrid, 2 jet and 2 electric with the jet engines charging batteries. Yes, I was thinking about this as well. The battery technology on an aircraft is currently on its early stage, I imagine it's similar to how huge a 5MB hard ...

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by trent768
Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet Discussion - 2021
Replies: 789
Views: 91883

Re: Emirates Network & Fleet Discussion - 2021

x1234 wrote:
The only major city in Western Europe missing EK is HEL. They outsource it to FlyDubai but there is passenger and cargo demand for a 77W.

Yes, feels a bit weird that EK doesn't fly to HEL yet and letting QR grabbed all the traffic. Maybe once the 787 arrives?

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by trent768
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: what airlines did boeing thought would get the 747 8?
Replies: 37
Views: 4212

Re: what airlines did boeing thought would get the 747 8?

Since they forecasted 300 aircraft, I wonder if they thought the airliner who already ordered it would take their option (lufthansa with 20 aircraft in option per example) or if emirates would get some of them since they were interested by it at some point (they got pitch in 2014 for 100 aircraft) ...

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by trent768
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320 "MaxPax" Cabin (Y188)?
Replies: 35
Views: 5312

Re: Airbus A320 "MaxPax" Cabin (Y188)?

I would hate to be the passengers in that last row, “cocoon partition” or not. Basically in galley with the nearest window two rows ahead of you. As for why the front is 30” as you mention it is due to exit spacing between the front exit and overwings (where seats can’t obstruct doors). If they wen...

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by trent768
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines Group News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 309
Views: 56411

Re: SQ (Singapore Airlines) Launching SIN-YVR

SQ will also announce a new route to Europe. Very much the same type of destination as YVR. So it could either be: A. VFR heavy B. Cold and/or gloomy weather Not an expert on A, but for B it might be OSL, GOT, LED, or DUB. OSL is a pretty safe bet. GOT house many Swedish industrial companies HQ, bu...

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by trent768
Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Brussels Airlines in Stockholm
Replies: 6
Views: 1596

Re: Brussels Airlines in Stockholm

Bromma is kind of like LCY. Those who use it love it but those who don’t know about it don’t think to use it. It depends where you live in Stockholm. If in Solna, Bromma or even city centre it’s very convenient. It also has a direct tram link now which really helps. The Arlanda express is expensive...

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by trent768
Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation 2021
Replies: 742
Views: 141343

Re: Eurowings with ARN base

How bad is SAS? Just curious. Interesting to see the reactions above In Swedish domestic flight, they're basically a pricier DY with free hot drinks in my opinion. AY short haul is basically the same with SK, but sometime they can be much cheaper if you don't mind the long transfer. But HEL is a ni...

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by trent768
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA wants to know what actions Airlines are going to do to curb unruly passenger incidents
Replies: 139
Views: 13098

Re: FAA wants to know what actions Airlines are going to do to curb unruly passenger incidents

That sounds super weird. As if the cops asked us "a'ight, what do you guys wants us to do to the robbers? Come on now, don't be shy!". I'm not an American so I don't really know how the system works. But for me it looks like that the government asked the big business to set up rules that w...

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by trent768
Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:36 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Question about cockpit audio warning
Replies: 8
Views: 1161

Question about cockpit audio warning

I was watching some windshear videos on YouTube and then I started thinking: would additional audio warning be helpful in reducing pilot error or just pilot load in general? Let say that a pilot lower their flaps to 15, then there's a "FLAP DOWN 15" audio warning just to remind the pilot t...

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by trent768
Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:59 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Size of speed brakes[spoilers] on airliners?
Replies: 14
Views: 1800

Re: Size of speed brakes[spoilers] on airliners?

On the 777, not only do they all deploy at different times, but there's the one spoiler panel on each wing that deploys at a smaller angle compared to the rest. I wonder how they determine that. I can't tell you what they were thinking... but the spoiler/speedbrake schedule is actually quite wild o...

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by trent768
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Goods are Shipped by Air
Replies: 63
Views: 9065

Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

I've seen styrofoam boxes with Thai Cargo stickers on almost every Asian store back in Sweden. Probably filled with all kind of spices, leaves, and roots. I've also saw a car being loaded to my AMS bound A380's belly in DXB. IIRC, GA also shipped several McLarens inside their 77W from the UK to thei...

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by trent768
Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:29 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A320 Wingtip strobes
Replies: 19
Views: 2508

Re: A320 Wingtip strobes

Does an activated strobe lights on the ground is a sign that a plane is cleared for take off? Because I noticed it on 2 occasions: 1. Red-eye CGK-DXB on EK's 77W at 0100. We were the only one taxiing and the pilots turned on the strobe while we were still on the taxiway. Like 80% down the path. We t...

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by trent768
Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Does the 2nd gen 777 have any exterior lighting differences from 1st gen?
Replies: 8
Views: 1859

Re: Does the 2nd gen 777 have any exterior lighting differences from 1st gen?

There are exterior LED retrofits available for the 777, unsure if Boeing ever made changes to factory production. The 737 lights were actually upgraded during the NG’s run in 2015. For me, it's the easiest way to found out how new the NG is, by looking at the wing strobe. If it's blink slowly, then...

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by trent768
Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which realistic routes do you want to see announced?
Replies: 61
Views: 7274

Re: Which realistic routes do you want to see announced?

AY HEL-CGK HEL-DPS Reasonable price, great service, and (geographically) provides the shortest distance to Europe. Not to mention that HEL is, for me, the most convenient airport to transfer that I've ever visited. DY ARN-BKK/SGN-DPS Lots of Swedes that I've met in Sweden are actually really wanting...

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by trent768
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:09 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: For Pilots: What Is Your Favorite Route/Flight Story?
Replies: 21
Views: 5739

Re: For Pilots: What Is Your Favorite Route/Flight Story?

Not a pilot, but as a passenger, it's from BDO (Bandung) to HLP (Jakarta-Halim). It's around 10-15 mins from stand to stand. It was so short that I think that the "crusing" altitude was probably around FL050-060. It was so fun watching all the traffic jam at the Jakarta-Bandung toll road f...

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by trent768
Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A321 Tire Replacement
Replies: 18
Views: 6106

Re: A321 Tire Replacement

One dumb question: does airline usually equipped their aircraft with spare tires whenever they fly to an outstation? Might cost them some money in weight and potential cargo space, but it'll really helpful in a case like this. CMIIW, I heard that airlines are actually friendly to each other in terms...

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by trent768
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Finnair adds long-haul from Sweden: ARN-MIA/BKK/HKT
Replies: 63
Views: 13638

Re: Finnair adds long-haul from Sweden: ARN-MIA/BKK/HKT

Excellent idea -well done Finnair They must have decades of data on travel and customers from ARN and their fantastic Asian crews are hard to beat Surprisingly, on my AY/CX HEL-HKG-CGK flight, AY managed to nail the Asian meal better than CX! Not to mention the superiority of their A359 compared to...

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by trent768
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: For flight loggers: What is your longest unbroken list of different airlines flown?
Replies: 29
Views: 2793

Re: For flight loggers: What is your longest unbroken list of different airlines flown?

Does connecting flight with a same booking code counts? If so, then: 07/18 SK2031 UME-ARN 73G 07/18 DY4005 ARN-UME 738 12/19 AY820/099 ARN-HEL-HKG 321/359 12/19 CX797 HKG-CGK 77W 02/20 JT815 MLG-CGK 738 12/20 QG161 CGK-MLG 320 Then the streaks stopped since i flew QG again for the return flight to C...

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by trent768
Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cleared to land
Replies: 16
Views: 2405

Re: Cleared to land

On a related note, how low can an aircraft continue their approach until a landing clearance is given? I don't remember the title, but I saw a youtube video where an aircraft on final was given the expect late landing clearance notice at LHR. It was last second indeed, since the GPWS yelled "mi...

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by trent768
Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos
Replies: 87
Views: 15957

Re: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos

I'm not surprised if they even spend much more than 10k. Bali is ridiculously expensive pre covid. Heck, if you're Indonesian, you could make a weekend gate away to Thailand for the same price or even less. Things are 180° in covid era. A lot of my friends (late 20s startup/corporate slave) could e...

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by trent768
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos
Replies: 87
Views: 15957

Re: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos

It's not going to be profitable and they know it. In fact, they have acknowledged it. Just roughly paraphrasing from Irfan Setiaputra, he said their reasoning is that since Americans or Frenchmen, for example, spend much more than the average visitor to Bali, the benefit to the Bali region would ou...

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by trent768
Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos
Replies: 87
Views: 15957

Re: Garuda Indonesia Orders Four A330-800neos

Congratulations to Garuda - the A338 will integrate seamlessly into their A330 fleet. Now, lets see what routes they would fly. I have no doubt about the seamless integration but I wonder what Garuda will actually do with all of these widebodies. Even before the pandemic struck, the A330 fleet was ...

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by trent768
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France planes' names
Replies: 167
Views: 35680

Re: Air France planes' names

TK names them for ages, however, they seem to be short of names recently. This one was called ANKARA, she rests in Paris. You must all remember TK 981 and 346 souls lost. 346 must be like π for American aeronautic engineering. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81u8v-zsQnL._AC_SL1500_...

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by trent768
Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines Group News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 309
Views: 56411

Re: Singapore Airlines Group News and Discussion Thread - 2021

What will be interesting is if SQ 737 will also be used on former SQ regional mainline routes like CGK. I guess during COVID and in the years right after it may make sense due to less passenger demand but is SQ willing to a 737 on CGK when this route has historically always been a mainline route an...

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by trent768
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 867
Views: 259174

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

While you are partially correct - there is a substantial difference between Air France Flight 447 and this crash - which is essential in the same approximate location as the Lion Air crash. AF Flight 447 crashed in deep water where the bottom was essentially solid or rocky, which is easy to search ...

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by trent768
Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air Boeing 737 skids off runway in Indonesia
Replies: 59
Views: 14508

Re: Lion Air Boeing 737 skids off runway in Indonesia

As a passenger, I have an impression that their standards have gone up. As I see that the involved aircraft has been merrily flying around for at least four days, I think that nothing serious happened. Our friends from the USA are too eager to blame some countries. My dear, visit Indonesia first an...

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by trent768
Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air Boeing 737 skids off runway in Indonesia
Replies: 59
Views: 14508

Re: Lion Air Boeing 737 skids off runway in Indonesia

It's probably a direct translation from Indonesian news source. Most media use the paid per click scheme, so the reporter tried to made the title as spectacular as possible. For example, every diversion will end up as "emergency landing" on the news. Years ago, this kind of stuff will be c...

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by trent768
Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports that can be accessed on foot vs airports that can only be accessed by car / train
Replies: 108
Views: 12693

Re: Airports that can be accessed on foot vs airports that can only be accessed by car / train

I've rode a bike to Umeå airport (UME) from my student apartment. They even have a free bike shelter for the passengers or airport employees. Quite a scenic ride I must say and since Umeå has an excellent bike lane system it was a smooth ride. Although the wind can be quite strong when you're on the...

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by trent768
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Viability (& Legality) of Combi Aircraft Moving Forward
Replies: 35
Views: 3645

Re: Viability (& Legality) of Combi Aircraft Moving Forward

The common believe that I've seen in this forum is that the 789 and 77W are today's combi. I also read that for aircraft to be allowed to carry pax and cargo on the same deck, it requires a solid and permanent divider, not just a net. I also think that strapping boxes with nets is not a proper way t...

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by trent768
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: BA 767s: Where did they fly?
Replies: 84
Views: 7565

Re: BA 767s: Where did they fly?

Yeah, I hang out or even spent a night in SkyCity quite a lot waiting for my next flight/SJ. Every time I saw one pass by, it feels like she's trying to rub salt into the wound! :D I know the feeling! While I managed to catch the 767, my plan to fly a BAe ATP failed when Nextjet suddenly went under...

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by trent768
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did NW ever fly NRT-ANC for Japanese tourists?
Replies: 4
Views: 2397

Re: Did NW ever fly NRT-ANC for Japanese tourists?

RWA380 wrote:
Yup, the pull was the borealis tours to conceive under the lights. I saw lots of DC-10 flights & IIRC the 742 would have been subs or premium days, the best I could see the DC-10's were routed out via GUM & HNL. At that time, the 744 & 742 were TPAC exclusively.

Wait, whaaattt??

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by trent768
Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could Qatar Airways ever send A350-900 to Kathmandu?
Replies: 14
Views: 3035

Re: Could Qatar Airways ever send A350-900 to Kathmandu?

Maybe not on a regular basis. Even bigger market like CGK mostly get 3 daily 788 before covid, sometime with 77W or 359 operating one of them during peak season. The 788 must be printing loads of money for QR on the less premium or thin destinations, with their fuel efficiency and dense config. The ...

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by trent768
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:57 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: BA 767s: Where did they fly?
Replies: 84
Views: 7565

Re: BA 767s: Where did they fly?

Tried to caught one on LHR-ARN in 2018, but it was almost £150 more expensive than SAS. So it's a big nope for a student like me. Kinda regret it now though. I can understand that, I'm very happy I managed to catch a 767 LHR-ARN before they were replaced with A32Xs, even if a SAS was a lot cheaper…...

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by trent768
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: BA 767s: Where did they fly?
Replies: 84
Views: 7565

Re: BA 767s: Where did they fly?

Tried to caught one on LHR-ARN in 2018, but it was almost £150 more expensive than SAS. So it's a big nope for a student like me. Kinda regret it now though. Any particular reason why ARN got a regular 767 service? It's not that big of a city in terms of population compared to other European 767 des...

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by trent768
Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Smallest seat pitch possible?
Replies: 13
Views: 1481

Re: Smallest seat pitch possible?

The angling is the worst bit for me. Seats that are almost right up and down are horrible. I have tried some really lightweight non-reclining seats that had a pretty generous amount of recline. Those were just fine. Trains are mostly good, way better than any economy seat in a plane, but I've never...

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by trent768
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:26 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Smallest seat pitch possible?
Replies: 13
Views: 1481

Re: Smallest seat pitch possible?

Right if there is no minimums I don't see how another ULCC will eventually use plastic seats only. No padding in the future. Big yikes to me. Flying on VietJet, 28in seat that was not fun and I'm pretty small guy as well Trust me, plastic shell seats already do exist. See the link below. It is the ...

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by trent768
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS 737 hits a bear in YAK
Replies: 65
Views: 12125

Re: AS 737 hits a bear in YAK

This is like the most Russian thing that could happened in America Teach it to play the flute for the circus. He will become a piper cub. Here, take my imaginary angry upvote and get out!! Lol! Well you know you can see Russian from Alaska LOL Bear in mind, you might need a good pair of binoculars ...

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by trent768
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will triangular flights become a thing again?
Replies: 30
Views: 3177

Re: Will triangular flights become a thing again?

A somewhat related question:
On a triangular routes, which destination is technically the final one where the "heavy" turnaround (cabin cleaning, catering for the return trip, crew change, etc) happened?

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by trent768
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS 737 hits a bear in YAK
Replies: 65
Views: 12125

Re: AS 737 hits a bear in YAK

This is like the most Russian thing that could happened in America

iamlucky13 wrote:
bennett123 wrote:
So what will they do with the cub?.


Teach it to play the flute for the circus. He will become a piper cub.

Here, take my imaginary angry upvote and get out!! Lol!

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by trent768
Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn't DL order the A35J?
Replies: 17
Views: 1633

Re: Why didn't DL order the A35J?

Why didn't DL order the A35J as a 744 replacement as the A35J is the same size as the 77W? DL could have used the A35J as a 744 replacement and the A359 as a 77E replacement and the A359ULR as a 77L replacement. Anyone know why DL didn't consider the A35J as a 744 replacement? Yields? The A359 is m...

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by trent768
Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:15 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will we see another wave of new airlines post-covid?
Replies: 9
Views: 1368

Re: Will we see another wave of new airlines post-covid?

In the US? Probably not. The bar for new airlines here is pretty high. There's a reason there have only been a few upstarts in the US in the past two decades. It's easier to take over an existing AOC, but that "fast track" option is usually taken by companies often lacking the investment ...

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by trent768
Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will we see another wave of new airlines post-covid?
Replies: 9
Views: 1368

Will we see another wave of new airlines post-covid?

Hello there! I'm sorry if this has been asked in another thread within this subforum or in another subforum. If so, please feel free to delete/merge it :) With the abundance of (relatively young) retired aircrafts and crews available right now, will it be possible? I'm talking about a condition wher...

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by trent768
Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Worst civilian procurement
Replies: 44
Views: 3381

Re: Worst civilian procurement

Desi carriers PIA (Please Inform Allah) and AI(Already Informed) have got poor aircraft choices down to a fine art. Almost from the beginning but by the 70's they were masters at this game! PIA with the Connies - many experts at the time felt that DC6's were a better fit overall for the nascent air...

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