The SIA order is equivalent of a cancellation. The 77W’s and 388’s are going to be phased out sooner or later and they definitely need more than 20x 779 to serve as replacements. Now by switching and deferring they avoided taking too many 787s and saved cash flow for the moment. You know they can p...
Jump to postThe SIA order is equivalent of a cancellation. The 77W’s and 388’s are going to be phased out sooner or later and they definitely need more than 20x 779 to serve as replacements. Now by switching and deferring they avoided taking too many 787s and saved cash flow for the moment.
Jump to postMaybe the second/third tier Chinese cities they used to serve.
Jump to postOkay, now I want the Taiwan's sunflower flag come back on CI's livery just like decades ago. 0027492,0021827 It would prevent them from flying to the mainland again, something EVA and Starlux maybe happy about. There had been an agreement over the two governments that no plane should fly over the o...
Jump to postAlso there is an interesting point. According to the Boeing ACAPs a 764 has some 104T of empty weight while the similarly sized 788 has an OEW of 120T. Needless to say that the A332/8 weighs even more. It's a huge advantage that many just don't realize. Current 764 has a range of roughly 5,650 nm , ...
Jump to postWhy was the 767-400 a sales flop? It was too large for a domestic market that was starting to emphasize frequency and modest sized frames with high efficiency over big trunk flights with low frequencies. It was too short legged to efficiently operate in the Pacific or on some of the longer Atlantic...
Jump to postlet us not forget the 767-400ER has been out of production for well over a decade now and are the suppliers who made the specialized landing gear and gear bay components still able to do so and if so, at what cost? The last 767-400ER came off the line 18 years ago on 04/04/2002. A delta aircraft. P...
Jump to postYes the 764 wings will be used, except the winglets will be adjusted to keep the 763 wingspan. The bigger gear will make a difference. Why is the greater 764 wingspan an issue? It doesn't really have to worry about gate space does it? (I'm asking, not being critical... I honestly don't know if that...
Jump to postThere is another problem.
764 empty weight 103T (I assume 108T-110T after engine, wing and gear upgrades)
788 empty weight 119T
338 empty weight 128T
It won't have the range to march the 788 and 338 though, but I doubt it will have serious CASM advantage on the mid and short range sector
Dig through flightglobal archives last month........237T for ANA 773 and 234 for JAL 773. Didn’t find the 772 figures
Jump to post¿Boeing near to win the Qantas Project Sunrise deal? https://theaircurrent.com/aircraft-development/boeing-chases-range-frontier-on-787-and-777x-to-win-air-new-zealand-qantas-deals/ Does this reference a 260 ton 78K? What improvement does it mention for a 778? Ivan More than 9500nm in the new B778 ...
Jump to postAny idea on when these wingtips will be lowered for the first time?
Jump to postI imagine the A350-900Rs they have on order (if not already taking delivery of). There are also the 787-10s coming into the fleet. That was my first thought too, but I’ve been hearing rumours circle that B773 and B77W could be used too If I am not mistaken, SQ is going to retire their classic B773 ...
Jump to posthttp://www.onthewingsaviation.com/2019/03/iberia-ahora-un-33-de-combustible.html The early IB a359 ops to EZE reveals 33% less fuel burned vs a346 and more payload carried. Very good performance. Now i'm even more curious about the A35K... :scratchchin: 25% better than the 77W, which in turn is ~7%...
Jump to postFor those who states that China needs tons of long range VLAs in the future decades: It's not likely that this will ever happen. I truely agree that Chinese airports are running out of slots, but the thing is, domestic travel still takes up the majority of the passenger flow with the exception of HK...
Jump to postFor those who states that China needs tons of long range VLAs in the future decades: It's not likely that this will ever happen. I truely agree that Chinese airports are running out of slots, but the thing is, domestic travel still takes up the majority of the passenger flow with the exception of HK...
Jump to postThe biggest winner of all of this is gonna be the 747-8. Boeing is not as stupid as Airbus to willingly throw away a massive order, this is Boeing's order to lose. This B747-8 fever is getting worse and worse by day..... Boeing kill B747-8i with B777-9. Just like how Boeing kill the previous B747 w...
Jump to postWell......I thinks they could configure a two aircraft in JAL-style low density and that would bring enough range for them. Two dedicated ULH frames though.
P.S. What would happen if they asked Boeing for a 254T 787-8ER?
11910km in new Boeing calculation method is a lot, similar to 13000 in the old or Airbus method. Remember they stated 13000km when launched and somehow decided to reduce the range estimation of all aircraft in 2016-17
Jump to postI do not understand how the 789, which flies several of the longest flights in the world, when 20 feet of fuselage length to it, can barely make it past LHR to the west coast. Something about all of these range estimates just doesn't add up to me. The 787-10 also has the same MTOW and Landing weigh...
Jump to postI might be repeating rubbish gossip, but a captain told me that they were coming without bunks If that is true they won't go to South America or California and probably not Texas either. The B787-10 will NOT have range for South America. It will be US East Coast/Midwest and some African,Middle East...
Jump to postSo this does nothing to help with tailstrikes on landing, only work to “catapult” the airplane off the runway. Color me unimpressed. Ok, I have now noticed how the bottom end extension also drops down on landing, but unless there is a serious downward force on that linkage, it will hardly help with...
Jump to postDLHAM wrote:TXL-YYZ will be more than 300nm further, also starting in June with 737MAX9. Flight time blocked at 9h15.
Will we see a rebranding of the E-jets? Afterall they rebranded the MD-95 as 717 a few decades ago.
Jump to postWith that comes the myth about the 777-8 and 777-9 becoming payload wonders, Well since every Airbus is more comfortable because they are right sized - no 9 or 10 abreast - and quiet with less noise in and out, why else would anyone buy a Boeing but for its range and payload? Well they can get chea...
Jump to postThe problem is the A330F has an awkward amount of range. Too much more many uses, not enough for many others. The worldwide cargo network hubs has been built around range limited jets. “More range” for cargo airlines is pointless unless it opens up significant new routes, like the 77F can (ie TPAC)...
Jump to postI believe WN now has a single safety card for all aircraft, and it operates 737s with two different exit configurations. I’ve often wondered how that’s allowed. I get using the same card if the exit configuration is the same (IIRC, UA uses the same card for the -800 and -900, as everything in the c...
Jump to postVV wrote:Antarius wrote:VV wrote:"VLA era is over"
When did VLA era start?
Jan 22, 1970. EIS of the 747.
It's been over for a while though.
What was the 747's capacity back then?
When do you think VLA era ended?
juliuswong wrote:Let's wait for Franborough Airshow......
I'd be more positive about the 787-10 than the 779; the 787-10 looks like being an ideal t/a aircraft and could replace the A333s and 772s on many routes. Correct. Buying a new aircraft that can seat 400 plus passengers makes zero sense when their largest aircraft only seats 310 and paint on the 77...
Jump to postI'd be more positive about the 787-10 than the 779; the 787-10 looks like being an ideal t/a aircraft and could replace the A333s and 772s on many routes. Correct. Buying a new aircraft that can seat 400 plus passengers makes zero sense when their largest aircraft only seats 310 and paint on the 77...
Jump to postJust a side question:
When are the CZ 789s due?
Or arw they just Xiamenair ones listed as CZ?
Boeing Monthly Update 197 new orders http://www.boeing.com/commercial/index.page#/orders-deliveries ANA 2 x 777F BOC Aviation 6 x 787-9 Boeing Business Jet 1 x 737MAX Jet Airways 75 x 737MAX SkyUp Airlines 5 x 737MAX Turkish Airlines 25 x 787-9 Unidentified 2 x 737MAX (28 March) Unidentified 73 x 7...
Jump to postActually it's not that amazing as long ad it's empty...... Empty 762s and 77Es have done 8,700 and 11,200 nm respectively
Jump to postGENX built on evolutionairy GE90 technology. Pretty much all technology in aviation can be viewed as being evolutionary these days, but GE90-115B was the best engine available for a decade or so, which is a pretty remarkable run. No wonder Boeing wanted to keep it all to itself! https://www.geaviat...
Jump to postThey are removed because the GE9X need more thrust. It's an efficient design but it trades thrust for efficiency. The 779 is a bit underpowered compared to the 77W (9％ lower thrust) and it can't afford to have this feature installed.
Jump to postI think 8Y is too wide. Not really. This has be covered many times in this thread. If we are talking an oval design when looking side on the 8ab will look extremely slim as the height will be fairly low. From a strength and aircraft loading perspective having a taller fuselage than it is wide is be...
Jump to postNote, this does not apply to airlines with Airbus fleets. There's a very good explanation for this: No airline with an all Airbus fleet has bought any Boeing aircraft, while the opposite is true. Air Tahiti Nui has bought some 787s to replace their A340s. Air Canada bought 737s to replace A 320s. T...
Jump to postgatibosgru wrote:I'm not 100% sure what you mean, maybe it is a language barrier?
Other than the 77W, which widebodies does KL still have on order?
It could borrow from the 747-8. In its discussions with GE about the MoM, it's plausible that Boeing had enquired about a less powerful or a derated GEnx2B. There is no existing engine that can serve as a 767MAX engine and no time or money or even interest in developing one. The 767 can't support a...
Jump to postI don't see a 22-year-old twin which ralatively new technologies(FBW,high bypass ratio engines and even 12% composites) going out of service when a rather big bunch of 763/4ERs, which have exactly the same range and being technically and figuratively older in service.
Jump to postOne of them seems to have an engine missing. Where did you this? Are there any better pictures? Saw two stored Uni-Top Airlines B747-200 in Wuhan, we passed them while taxiing to the terminal. Unfortunately I had no chance to take a picture even though I sat at the window... too bad, it was awesome...
Jump to postNo the A359LR would carry even less payload over 9,500 nm. The 280t model maybe. But a 308t/316t A350-900ULR would bury any long-range A350-1000 variant at 9 500Nm in terms of payload. Frankly, with 165 000l of fuel, a 308t/316t A359 would arguably be the best purely ULR frame out there. rgds Well ...
Jump to postBoeing is still making planes with the 707 nose and Airbus is still making planes with the A300 nose, so I see no reason why Boeing would need to,get rid of the 767 nose which is better than both of those other noses. Anything beyond "Cleopatra!" on that finding of yours? At a minimum Air...
Jump to postI wonder why Boeing didn't make use of the 737 fusalauge in its proposal. The MoM could have same fusalauge, avionics and tail(probable extended the 747SP-way) with the 737 while having bigwings ings, lenthened gears and new engines. Essentially the difference between an A346 and an A332(probably a ...
Jump to postWhat limit are you referring to ? Other aircraft have higher pavement loading than the 787-9. The 787 is believed to be maxed out at ~ 250t MTOW, hence Boeing didn't bump the takeoff weight on the 787-10. We had several threads on a 787-10 HGW: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548669 ...
Jump to postWhy not make use of that NTU 747, L/N1435 instead of building a new 777 as a testbed?
Jump to postMH signs MOU for 16 airplanes conversion of 8 737MAX into 8 787-9's 8 additional purchase rights for 737MAX8 http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-09-12-Boeing-Malaysia-Airlines-Sign-Memorandum-of-Understanding-for-16-Airplanes?sf113471564=1 Wow, I thought MH was getting rid of its Boeing widebodies aft...
Jump to postseat38a wrote:AirCal737 wrote:seat38a wrote:Well so it will be:
ME 3
US 3
EU 3
Maybe a LA 3 (Latin America ) Avianca, LAN, COPA
Just counting the big ones and not the LCC
Ever heard of the CN3???
NOPE!!!