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by b4thefall
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ural Airlines A321 VQ-BOZ 15 august 2019 Moscow emergency landing
Replies: 179
Views: 26692

Re: Ural Airlines A321 VQ-BOZ 15 august 2019 Moscow emergency landing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHNt4u6FdjM
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Just found a new video on YT of the entire event, from takeoff to landing in the field, with no edits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHNt4u6FdjM

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by b4thefall
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ural Airlines A321 VQ-BOZ 15 august 2019 Moscow emergency landing
Replies: 179
Views: 26692

Re: Ural Airlines A321 VQ-BOZ 15 august 2019 Moscow emergency landing

Wow!! Amazing skill from the pilots. Very lucky this happened where there was space available to make a crash landing in the fields. If this had happened over a populated built up area, the result would have been too awful to think about.

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by b4thefall
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to YYZ -- Why the Decline
Replies: 33
Views: 8457

Re: BA to YYZ -- Why the Decline

Core economy traffic between the UK and Canada has been in general decline for thirty years ! The heydays were the seventies and early eighties with dozens of VFR flights the Toronto from just about every paved 7500’ + runway.here. Was there ever a non-stop to YYZ from BFS? Off topic I know. But no...

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by b4thefall
Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Do pilots always understand ATC?
Replies: 39
Views: 7292

Re: Do pilots always understand ATC?

On a slightly related topic... my job involves using walkie talkies. I remember on my first night training, I panicked, because I couldn't understand a single word anyone was saying! I got used to it over the course of time however. I guess pilots do too.

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by b4thefall
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:23 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do any airlines still use ceiling mounted CRT televisions for IFE?
Replies: 25
Views: 2300

Re: Do any airlines still use ceiling mounted CRT televisions for IFE?

I flew on one of the 8 door Air Canada 767s in 2012 that still had a combination of projector screens at the bulkheads, and CRT TVs hanging from the central overhead lockers. It was like stepping back in time! I enjoyed the novelty personally.

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by b4thefall
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?
Replies: 18
Views: 5649

Re: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?

Channel airways in the UK managed to squeeze 99 pax onto their short body 1-11s. Apparently they were configured 6 abreast with very narrow seats. They also had an extra pair of overwing exits. I've never seen any pics or real evidence of the 6 abreast layout, but considering they operated the infam...

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by b4thefall
Tue May 28, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 50 Years Celebration - 5 things Airbus got right and 5 it did not
Replies: 83
Views: 12548

Re: Airbus 50 Years Celebration - 5 things Airbus got right and 5 it did not

This is an excellent article, that I totally agree with. One "failure" that should have been included was that, although Airbus was the first company to make a twin aisle widebody, Airbus failed to anticipate ETOPS in the 1980s. The A300-B4, A310, and A300-600 were all optimized for short...

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by b4thefall
Sun May 26, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 19083

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

Also, why did one crash and the other, not? Cargo door blew out on both, correct? Because there were much less passengers (56) on the AA flight. Correct! Turkish Airlines had high density seating on their DC-10s then, and the flight was fully loaded. This put extra stress on the floor, which then c...

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by b4thefall
Sat May 25, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 5/19: Summer is a comin' in!
Replies: 181
Views: 25864

Re: Irish 5/19: Summer is a comin' in!

Turkish Airlines also have the A320 style exit layout on the A321neo with door 3 deactivated. I too wonder how the cabin crew will feel about only having a tiny half galley to set up a full trans Atlantic service from, with 3 toilets squashed into the rear too. (2 in the back galley and 1 immediatel...

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by b4thefall
Thu May 23, 2019 4:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 19083

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

I recently read a different article about this crash, and try as I might I just can't remember where. The reason it stuck in my mind was that it included a couple of pictures of the DC 10 in the air, that I had never seen before. They were apparently taken by a man from the window of an arriving ai...

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by b4thefall
Wed May 22, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 19083

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

I recently read a different article about this crash, and try as I might I just can't remember where. The reason it stuck in my mind was that it included a couple of pictures of the DC 10 in the air, that I had never seen before. They were apparently taken by a man from the window of an arriving air...

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by b4thefall
Sun May 19, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: National Airlines (N8) introduces A330?
Replies: 20
Views: 6268

Re: National Airlines (N8) introduces A330?

Wow! I've always liked the National livery, but it looks absolutely outstanding on the A330! I wish them well and hope to see more in the sky.

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by b4thefall
Thu May 09, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Goodbye BAC 1-11!
Replies: 85
Views: 10957

Re: Goodbye BAC 1-11!

In April 1999, I was flying Aer Lingus from Rome to Dublin. Departure time came and went, but eventually 2 busses turned up at the gate and we were instructed to board them. After a tour of the airport, you can imagine my utter delight when we pulled up next to a British World 1-11, instead of the u...

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by b4thefall
Fri May 03, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delivery of first Air Transat A321LR
Replies: 24
Views: 6700

Re: Delivery of first Air Transat A321LR

The seat map is already on the Air Transat website. Looks like a very nice layout. The good news is, Air Transat have opted for the full size galley at the rear, with 1 toilet ahead of the rear doors, 2 mid-cabin, and 1 at the front.

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by b4thefall
Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Transat's A321LR scheduled European routes for Summer 2020
Replies: 41
Views: 8951

Re: Air Transat's A321LR scheduled European routes for Summer 2020

5502623 Just ONE overwing exit? Any idea why? Or does the LR just has one, opposite to the non LR with two? Btw. are those overwings exits "swing up" like B737NG/Max? Air Transat doesn't have enough seats on board to justify the full complement of exits. They have quite a spacious layout,...

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by b4thefall
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Aerospace ATP/J61
Replies: 25
Views: 3024

Re: British Aerospace ATP/J61

I can't answer your question, but I was lucky enough to bag 2 flights on the ATP. 1 with Manx and 1 with BA. Loved both flights! Due to the low wings, big engines, and tall gear, it was undoubtedly the closest I'll ever get to knowing what it felt like boarding one of the great prop-liners of the pa...

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by b4thefall
Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA Ambassador Service Seat Charts (1971) L1011, 747 Question- K Class?
Replies: 50
Views: 6429

Re: TWA Ambassador Service Seat Charts (1971) L1011, 747 Question- K Class?

CI had a lounge on their 747-132s. CX had 10 across in their L1011 definitely no lounges! Thanks trex8 for the info! Learnt something new today. Was it a carry over from Delta? Wish there is photo floating around. Looks like CX started with 9 across on the L1011. A lot of the early L1011s had the d...

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by b4thefall
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks
Replies: 44
Views: 12974

Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Seems almost ready to start test flights Does anyone know cabin layout/seats of these Air Transat LR? I can't find anywhere Looks great. These new engines look better than the old CFM/IAEs. "Air Transat’s A321LRs will have 199 seats in two classes, with 12 new Club Class seats in a 2-2 configu...

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by b4thefall
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 93323

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Also , at 33 seconds into the video, there are 6 variations of what the new livery could have been. It looks like they have chosen the one on the top left, but without the billboard titles (if the rendering we have all seen is correct) .

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by b4thefall
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 93323

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Are EI just teasing us with this new logo. Watch this then. http://aerlingus.newsweaver.com/News/17sl05mm9c2asjztbr4c03?email=true&a=5&p=2085397&t=2384551&autoPlay=VIMEO-311176915 Part of me secretly hopes that they roll out the outline swirly shamrock that is *heavily* featured and...

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by b4thefall
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 93323

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

I was fearing worse, but it's not too bad. It's just so incredibly bland and inoffensive. Wether you loved or loathed the green tops, at least they stood out. This livery will just blend into the sea of other bland aircraft. Also, it's a carbon copy of Air Transat (different colour palette aside ), ...

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by b4thefall
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 93323

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

NickWebb wrote:
tonystan wrote:
Here’s hoping it’s more green and less white!


Dream on, I've seen it already!!



Can you give us any further info?

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by b4thefall
Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations
Replies: 39
Views: 11162

Re: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations

That toilet/galley configuration on the EI 321 LR is going to be an absolute nightmare. There is no way crew will be able to set up service for 165 odd pax in that tiny space with pax queueing up for the loo blocking everything at the same time. Not going to work on a long haul flight. I’m honestly...

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by b4thefall
Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The history and creation of the “Slimline” seats?
Replies: 38
Views: 6427

Re: The history and creation of the “Slimline” seats?

As someone else touched on above, slimline seating has been a blessing for those of us who have occasion to fly on the euro LCCs or charter carriers who have always installed high density cabins. I have flown many flights on EasyJet and Jet2 on their max capacity a319/20s and 733/8s. They feel like ...

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by b4thefall
Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier A320 Loses #2 Engine Cowling Departing LAS
Replies: 30
Views: 8961

Re: Frontier A320 Loses #2 Engine Cowling Departing LAS

That must have caused a significant amount of drag. Normally in these kind of incidents, only the flimsy forward cowlings come loose and separate. It must have caused quite a fright for the passengers!

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by b4thefall
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Laker Airways 1996 ver
Replies: 13
Views: 2503

Re: Laker Airways 1996 ver

There was a behind the scenes documentary following Sir Freddie during the start up https://youtu.be/QVmf852LQ78 His product was not too far from what TUI and Thomas Cook offer today, ahead of its time in many ways. However they had a lot of problems with the DC10 fleet so a lot of wet leased aircr...

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by b4thefall
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Laker Airways 1996 ver
Replies: 13
Views: 2503

Re: Laker Airways 1996 ver

There was a behind the scenes documentary following Sir Freddie during the start up https://youtu.be/QVmf852LQ78 His product was not too far from what TUI and Thomas Cook offer today, ahead of its time in many ways. However they had a lot of problems with the DC10 fleet so a lot of wet leased aircr...

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by b4thefall
Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 521
Views: 93323

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Today at the airline passenger experience expo in Boston, the Aer Lingus CEO announced that there will be a branding refresh with the delivery of their first A321LR in January. "The Green and the Shamrock will stay put" -Jason Rabinowitz https://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/10442260221...

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by b4thefall
Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airline's A321NEO 4 overwing exits and only 4 doors?
Replies: 8
Views: 2160

Re: Turkish Airline's A321NEO 4 overwing exits and only 4 doors?

It's also worth noting that the 321neo over wing exits are slightly taller than the 320s. They are 737 style 'flip-up' exits, which are much simpler to operate and allow faster egress during an evacuation.

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by b4thefall
Thu May 10, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 441
Views: 132143

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Stunning looking! The big engines make the entire aircraft look larger to me.

Any pics of the cabin yet? I'm interested to see how the new Airspace cabin looks in reality, rather than mock-ups.

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by b4thefall
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How does Delta like their A350 so far?
Replies: 86
Views: 30169

Re: How does Delta like their A350 so far?

From a passenger perspective, I think it's "OK". I am getting used to the Premium Select cutting in between Delta ONE and regular coach; but that's really irrelevant of the A350. One thing that I think FA's will agree with is crossover sections. In the economy cabin, you can only cross ai...

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by b4thefall
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can B767 Be Converted to 2-4-2?
Replies: 52
Views: 8983

Re: Can B767 Be Converted to 2-4-2?

I flew a couple of UK- Orlando round trips on 2-4-2 767s belonging to Airtours International. The lack of legroom bothered me more than the seat width. In the days before the modern slim seats, the British charter airlines and their max density aircraft were truly cramped! The seats were quite thick...

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by b4thefall
Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus rolls out first A321neo ACF
Replies: 54
Views: 16429

Re: Airbus rolls out first A321neo ACF

Is it just me, or do the overwing exits look noticeably 'taller' than the ones installed on other a32x aircraft? Yes they are. I believe they may open upwards like the over wing exits on the 737 and CSeries, if so a very welcome change and one that they should put on the A320 and A319 as well. I co...

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by b4thefall
Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus rolls out first A321neo ACF
Replies: 54
Views: 16429

Re: Airbus rolls out first A321neo ACF

Is it just me, or do the overwing exits look noticeably 'taller' than the ones installed on other a32x aircraft?

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by b4thefall
Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways and the 767
Replies: 100
Views: 23511

Re: British Airways and the 767

I've always wondered why the BA 767 fleet had the full 8 door arrangement used by the 8 abreast charter airlines, when BA had a comparatively low density 7 abreast seating arrangement. Does anybody know the answer?

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by b4thefall
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French Blue to change its name
Replies: 71
Views: 19335

Re: French Blue to change its name

Off-topic but I couldn't resist...the Japanese one is a 727-100 with a rear fuselage door added? High density configuration?[/quote] This aircraft was going to be operated by Dan Air, who installed 153 seats. The UK CAA insisted that they installed the additional pair of exits at the rear to accommo...

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by b4thefall
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:19 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Jet2 EDI-VIE on 31 year-old 737 - Really pleasant surprise!
Replies: 9
Views: 5778

Re: Jet2 EDI-VIE on 31 year-old 737 - Really pleasant surprise!

I flew on Jet2 for the first time earlier this year and I was equally impressed. You know what, I keep getting the same feedback all over. I think Jet2 are really onto something here - no wonder they are able to expand the way they are doing at the moment! Another thing I forgot to mention is the f...

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by b4thefall
Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:04 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Jet2 EDI-VIE on 31 year-old 737 - Really pleasant surprise!
Replies: 9
Views: 5778

Re: Jet2 EDI-VIE on 31 year-old 737 - Really pleasant surprise!

I flew on Jet2 for the first time earlier this year and I was equally impressed. I also flew on an old 733, but it was kept in excellent condition. The seats, while cheap looking, provide excellent legroom (much better than EasyJet in my experience) despite the fact that the 733 aircraft are fitted ...

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by b4thefall
Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet2 flies a 737 with one passenger !
Replies: 61
Views: 10046

Re: Jet2 flies a 737 with one passenger !

I once flew on the last outbound flight of the season from DUB - PMI on a Monarch A300. There were no more than about 30-40 passengers on board. Very nice flight, although, I wouldn't have fancied spending any longer on the plane, despite the light load. The seating was very cramped, and 2 of the ol...

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by b4thefall
Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 211791

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Hope they can bring a wavy line between white & grey, same style as KLM or UA B787. Different strokes for different folks my friend. Personally, I think the 'random wavy line' craze is awful. I think KLM have made, what was a fantastic refresh of an iconic livery, look cheap by adding the wave/...

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by b4thefall
Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family
Replies: 36
Views: 7888

Re: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family

Does anyone have any photos of the 350 style cabin on the 320/321Neo? Always good to see a little bit more flair and design going into narrow bodies I don't know if any airlines have installed the 350 style cabin on the neo, but just google 'Delta A321 cabin' and you can see what it looks like on t...

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by b4thefall
Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family
Replies: 36
Views: 7888

Re: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family

http://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/airbus- ... pace-a320/
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For anyone interested, here is an article with more pictures and a video inside the mock-up.

http://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/airbus- ... pace-a320/

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by b4thefall
Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next in line with the "hip" airlines trend.. "Swoop"
Replies: 88
Views: 9651

Re: Next in line with the "hip" airlines trend.. "Swoop"

Oh yeah the other differential to WS mainline on swoop with be 189Y in the 738 vs. WS' 168. They'll probably be able to maintain the same seat pitch by gone with slimlines on swoop. WestJet mainline already has slimline seats with very generous leg room. Bye bye leg room. Depending on the seats the...

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by b4thefall
Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family
Replies: 36
Views: 7888

Re: Jetblue to be launch customer for Airbus A320 AirSpace Cabin

I'm not impressed either. It feels like a step back from the A350 style cabin that Delta has on their 321 fleet. From the APEX story: "There were slick space jackets and big smiles on show as Airbus and JetBlue announced the airline will be the launch customer for Airbus’ A320 Airspace cabin, ...

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by b4thefall
Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to launch Airspace cabin for A320 family
Replies: 36
Views: 7888

Re: Jetblue to be launch customer for Airbus A320 AirSpace Cabin

I'm not impressed either. It feels like a step back from the A350 style cabin that Delta has on their 321 fleet. I had thought that cabin was going to become standard on the 320neo, but I was apparently wrong! Visually, I don't like the fact that the bins are now even more boxy and angular. I feel t...

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by b4thefall
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 1997 Concept Liveries Released
Replies: 42
Views: 7659

Re: Delta 1997 Concept Liveries Released

I really enjoyed viewing these concepts. Thanks for the post. I like #1 and #2 best, though concept #1 reminds me of Canadian Pacific's final livery before becoming Canadian Airlines International. The concepts that attempted to incorporate the original widget logo were, in my opinion, quite hideou...

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by b4thefall
Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your first L1011/DC-10/MD-11 flight(s)
Replies: 87
Views: 4127

Re: Your first L1011/DC-10/MD-11 flight(s)

My only tri-jet flights have all been on the 1011. The first was in 1989 from Belfast- Montreal (unscheduled refuelling stop) - Toronto. This was on Air Canada, presumably on one of their short range TriStars, considering we had to make that unscheduled stop? I can still remember sitting on the tarm...

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by b4thefall
Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sunday Times Article: ‘Anyone but British Airways’: turbulent times at the nation’s flag carrier
Replies: 50
Views: 12843

Re: Sunday Times Article: ‘Anyone but British Airways’: turbulent times at the nation’s flag carrier

My only BA long haul experience was a LGW-MCO-LGW trip. It wasn't bad, but it was nothing more than thoroughly mediocre. I can vouch for the fact that the cabin crew completely disappeared for the majority of the flight. I have however flown them quite a few times on short haul flights. Since they '...

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by b4thefall
Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:32 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Jet2 introduced a fee to ‘guarantee’ that cabin baggage does not go the hold
Replies: 11
Views: 2155

Re: Jet2 introduced a fee to ‘guarantee’ that cabin baggage does not go the hold

It's worth mentioning that if you are on a package deal with Jet2holidays, you still get a free hold bag up to 22kg, which is very generous in my opinion. As far as I am aware, the vast majority of Jet2 passengers are on packages, so this fee shouldn't effect them. Only a few weeks ago I flew from t...

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by b4thefall
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:13 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Use of flaps for takeoff
Replies: 31
Views: 6450

Re: Use of flaps for takeoff

It's also worth noting that some aircraft are capable of 'flapless' takeoffs under certain conditions. Personally, I've experienced them on A300 & F100. The first time ( A300 ) i was quite alarmed, as I had read about the NW crash in Detroit. I lived to tell the tale however lol. I didn't have t...

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