I had posted this 5 years ago: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1432205&p=21749743#p21749743 Copy pasting again: It’s a cycle, the following news reports come up every few months: 1. Indigo/ Spice looking at Boeing/airbus to order x widebodies to fuel international expansi...
Jump to postThe "issue" with LGW is that there aren't good beyond connections vs LHR. A surprising amount of Air India DEL-LHRvv traffic isn't in fact going to/from the UK, but to/from Canada, using connections with Air Canada. The catchment area of LGW is big, but smaller than LHR. Being south of Lo...
Jump to postThe "issue" with LGW is that there aren't good beyond connections vs LHR. A surprising amount of Air India DEL-LHRvv traffic isn't in fact going to/from the UK, but to/from Canada, using connections with Air Canada. The catchment area of LGW is big, but smaller than LHR. Being south of Lo...
Jump to postRMTAviation wrote:
How did they even operate the 77W to America without a crew rest?
Way too optimistic with the frequencies. I think we can all agree, combined with AA/UA there is nowhere this much demand for like 12 daily flights from JFK/EWR to India (8 on AI) and (4 on UA/AA). More realistic would be like Double Daily: DEL-SFO Daily: DEL-EWR/JFK/ORD/YYZ/YVR/LAX/ 3-4x Weekly (Ma...
Jump to postFor reasons having to do with tech, education, and Pharma, BOS ‘seems’ like a plausible choice as a destination. The fact that a route to BOS can be done with a small, long-legged plane amplifies that. Now, as a preemptive strike, we see QR going 10x to BOS this summer along with Etihad going 4x…bo...
Jump to postFor reasons having to do with tech, education, and Pharma, BOS ‘seems’ like a plausible choice as a destination. The fact that a route to BOS can be done with a small, long-legged plane amplifies that. Now, as a preemptive strike, we see QR going 10x to BOS this summer along with Etihad going 4x…bo...
Jump to postSo if AI is getting 14 777 and 6 A359 this year, I feel like they have the following for expansion / refurbishment: Meanwhile, cello-tape has made its grand entry on the first of the leased 777s on VT-AEM! Daaaym! I thought we had atleast 6 good months before the Kalina gang got their hands on thes...
Jump to postI am interested in knowing which aircraft will perform better for ULH routes such as BLR-SFO, BOM-LAX or DEL-DFW- 789 or A359/A351
Lets take the new builds that AI would be receiving. A359 - 283T and A351- 319T (not sure MTOW of new B789s)
Rough back-of-paper calculation shows the following fleet requirement given existing and new routes. Rough Estimates. 20 x A350-900s (might need 2 configs with varying Premium seats - not ideal) 24 x A350-1000 - ideally Airbus should have a slightly larger variant with 30 more Y seats and range to ...
Jump to postWhat happened to all the Air India's LHR slots which were previously used for HYD, AMD, ATQ, COK. They were supposed to use it for DEL and BOM, but they are still are flying 2 flights daily each to BOM and DEL (same as before). Was it leased and went back to the lessor. AI used to fly 42/wk to LHR ...
Jump to postAI increasing frequency on DEL-IAD to 5/wk from Dec 23
Jump to postHow are you positive that DFW and IAH will get service? Does AI even serve LAX today? BOS and LAX are starting early 2024 potentially. That date could shift depending on when new WBs are delivered and configured. Since AI doesn't have to mind use of Russian airspace they are the most likely to star...
Jump to postIt will be difficult for AI to satisfy every major city in India, with convenient one stop connections to major cities in US, Canada and Europe and other destinations, something like what EK and QR have done to the 9 to 12 cities they serve in India. Air India will rightly focus on DEL and followed...
Jump to postAdding source here - https://aviationa2z.com/index.php/2023/11/04/air-india-interline-partnership-with-alaska-airlines/ , nothing official from their website yet but this is definitely a positive way forward. I was just pondering about connection at SEA for AI 3 days ago. If they see good usage of ...
Jump to postVT-AEQ, the second ex-Etihad 77W, has entered service on the BOM-LHR route. It seems like BOM is getting the newer planes before DEL. So here are the routes with the leased planes. Ex-Delta 77L BLR-SFO BOM-SFO DEL-SFO(AI183) BOM-JFK Ex-Etihad 77W BOM-LHR BOM-EWR The yields have been higher on ex BO...
Jump to postSo now 21X out of NYC and 17X out of SFO to India. So out of SFO, AI is bigger than ANA, JAL, CX, KE. Pretty impressive. I am surprised Ai isn’t starting ORD-BOM 3X and LAX-DEL 3X. I wonder where the new A350 will fly to? As far as the livery, I think it looks fine. Clearly the TATAs think it is mo...
Jump to postabcx wrote:yashk wrote:AI is deploying ex DL 77L on 3 weekly AI 183/184 DEL-SFO
I don't believe it's the DL birds?
https://www.planemapper.com/flights/AI183
AI is deploying ex DL 77L on 3 weekly AI 183/184 DEL-SFO I wonder if they will be opening any new routes with the legacy 77L and the new ex EY planes coming in. Good decision by AI. As I had said, this is the most premium aircraft in AI's fleet, and they would want to make the most out of it. ex DL...
Jump to postAI is deploying ex DL 77L on 3 weekly AI 183/184 DEL-SFO
I wonder if they will be opening any new routes with the legacy 77L and the new ex EY planes coming in.
Sorry - just curious.... super connector to where exactly? Ala become something like ME3... transport people from 3rd country to 3rd country by routing them via one of the AI hubs! For example? Outside of Sri Lanka, what populations is India geographically or logistically poised to support as a sup...
Jump to postPY seat config looks great! Every other carrier is doing 2-4-2 in A350 (including LH) but Swiss has decided 2-3-2 PY has been in a 2-3-2 arrangement on LH since forever, so this statement is incorrect. Yes you are right, LH is 2-3-2. I traveled on the ex Philippine Airlines plane operated by LH whi...
Jump to postPY seat config looks great! Every other carrier is doing 2-4-2 in A350 (including LH) but Swiss has decided 2-3-2
Jump to postAI will soon be in a place where they will have a myriad of cabin products on their WB fleet: Their own 777/787 product Ex-DL 77Ls Ex-SU 359s Ex-UK 789s And after that - their own 3510s/789s/77Xs - hope there is a plan to harmonize stuff wherever possible. Don't forget about the ex etihad 777w join...
Jump to postAI already committed to refurbishing 27 788s and 13 77Ws, first of the refurbished planes would arrive in 2024. Given the significant expense AI would be undertaking, I wonder how long does AI plan on keeping these planes?
Jump to postI hope the Tatas stop running charity service from Kerala to Gulf. For example: Calicut/Kannur to Sharjah/Ras-al-Khaimah/Al Ain among other destinations are around 200$ even during peak or last minute travel. These routes are more than 4 hours long and do come with decent baggage allowance. If you ...
Jump to postAir India was operating 42 weekly flights to LHR. With the new schedule, LHR flights drop to 31/week. Did AI's slot allocation at LHR drop by 11 weekly pairs?
Jump to postMy guess is either ex SQ or CX since they both have a bunch of parked 4 class 77Ws.
SQ's config: F4C48W28Y184
CX's config: F6C53W34Y201
Both are very premium heavy. I wonder how complex scheduling will become with 4 types of 777 config's
https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/air-india-to-operate-direct-flights-to-san-francisco-from-mumbai-bengaluru-11664541273524.html Air India is launching BOM-SFO 3/wk with the following schedule: AI 179 BOM 14:30 - SFO 17:00 AI 180 SFO 21:00 - BOM 03:40 +2 Air India is resuming BLR-SFO 3/wk with...
Jump to postIt is agreed that within this forum and others that Tata need to integrate AI with UK and IX with I5. Some have suggested removing the UK brand. And within this forum it is believed that Tata’s airlines will merge and so on, hence the order for 300 NBs, some even believe that is not enough. However...
Jump to postWhat I do not understand is why AI does not increase utilization of their 777s by starting daytime departure flights to NA. As of now these planes sit on the ground for 12-14 hours in DEL and there is a need of 2 frames for a daily service. With a schedule like this, they can run a double daily serv...
Jump to posthttps://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 715370.cms
Air India plans on taking Delta's 6 777-200 on lease and the planes will arrive by October
Am I the only one surprised by the "faulty seats" issue ? What kind of defect is there to justify the leasing of 6 B777 ? I’m sure it’s not faulty seats - I’d say that’s poor journalism that’s connecting dots that don’t exist. At most they maybe taking their current 777 out of service for...
Jump to postI think they will make sure that the new aircraft come in before the 77Ls are offloaded. These sale processes will take months usually, so I believe they aren't leaving just yet. At current schedules, they don't have 3 77Ws to use for that service without cutting some service somewhere else or ungr...
Jump to postAir India is planning to sell all three 77Ls. These three 777s operate 10/wk DEL-SFO and AI's 777 fleet is already stretched pretty thin at the moment. I wonder whether they ll have new planes before these end up leaving. Source: https://www.livemint.com/news/air-india-issues-tender-to-sell-three-b7...
Jump to posthttps://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/air-india-appoints-sandeep-gupta-as-chief-pilot-for-airbus-a350-fleet-122071801430_1.html This means that the A350s are almost a certainty in AI's fleet I'm sure it's a negotiating tactic to get a better price from Boeing. :duck: Haha Mr San...
Jump to posthttps://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 430_1.html
This means that the A350s are almost a certainty in AI's fleet
Regarding "AI operates 49 widebodies as of now" above, just for clarity, AI has 43 widebodies (27 * 787-8 + 13 * 777-300ER + 3 * 777-200LR), out of which atleast 3 * 787 and 3 * 777-300 have been grounded for months, if not years Can you provide the identity of these six planes? https://w...
Jump to postIts great to see there is a lot of confidence in India and its aviation market. Just out of curiosity, how many of the posters are NRI's, living in India and/or Indian ethnics? I sometimes get the feeling that those who "shout the loudest" are the ones living outside of India. I still do ...
Jump to postA country of 1.3 billion people and yet the aviation market is maybe 10% the population. This includes business (I don’t think a rickshaw person will be going from HYD to AMD to expand their business) as well VFR/leisure market (don’t think employers of maids and drivers are going send them back to...
Jump to postAvailable in 2 lengths perfectly suited for Air India operations. -1000HGW for North America and -900 for Europe. The -900ULR could be used as an option later to open long thin routes. Biggest advantage would be crew compatibility. A mix of 737MAX and 787 would not offer this advantage. The A350-90...
Jump to postWon't Navi Mumbai airport ease congestion at BOM? Also, CCU having no service to Europe is a disgrace. I think AI should launch a CCU-LHR or CCU-FRA Route. Maybe if CCU had more business traffic or premium VFR, airlines would be queuing up to fly there! CCU having no service to Europe is a disgrace...
Jump to postIMO if AI is planning on establishing long haul hubs at BOM and BLR, A359 or B789 is the right size. If AI were to funnel all pax through DEL then a larger aircraft like 779 would make sense. With Vistara folding into AI in the near future (~1-2 years), Vistara's 789, AI's 788, I do not see Tata com...
Jump to postThat depends on how Tata's plan to align AI and Vistara. The latter too has their hub in DEL and has connections to EU and has plans for North America. So the two sister airlines would end up competing each other. Ideally AI should focus outside of DEL too, from other metro and tier 2 cities, makin...
Jump to postI am also looking forward to see if out of the 100 A321s, if Tata chooses a few XLRs. With a premium config of about 16-20 lie flats, the plane could do most of Europe from DEL (other than Spain, Portugal, Ireland). I could see AI fly to destinations such as BER, MUC, PRG, ARN, CPH, VIE, FCO, MXP, ...
Jump to postI am also looking forward to see if out of the 100 A321s, if Tata chooses a few XLRs. With a premium config of about 16-20 lie flats, the plane could do most of Europe from DEL (other than Spain, Portugal, Ireland). I could see AI fly to destinations such as BER, MUC, PRG, ARN, CPH, VIE, FCO, MXP, Z...
Jump to postHave been hearing from quite a few different sources that Air India higher-ups are talking about grabbing some 50 A350s. Personally, I don't know how it makes sense with both the 787 and 777 in the fleet being less than 13 years and 8 years of age respectively. A complete overhaul of the interiors ...
Jump to postBoth AI and IR do. In fact AI can possibly surpass TK just based on the domestic market feed alone. IR unfortunately has sanctions that are blocking it. But AI with a billion person population can really make the ME3 shake in their boots if they get their act together. Absolutely. Relatively low la...
Jump to postI noticed that the UA flights from IND-US are flying the typical polar route: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ua802#29fbe399 While the AI/AA flights are avoiding Russia and flying due west. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/aa293#29f3392f https://www.flightradar24.com/data/fligh...
Jump to postAfghanistan provides limited ATC service, most of which is still non-radar i believe. This means non-radar separation across their airspace. (10 minutes in trail separation on the same airway, same altitude). This, combined with the westbound demand at night, is why you need to apply for slots befo...
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