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by Interested
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48953892 The negative stories about Boeing keep building. "Families cheated of Boeing crash compensation" 74k per family - I've no doubt with the level of focus on this crash Boeing wont get away with this. Maybe they would in the past. But not this ti...

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Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Stop posting this garbage. It isn't true. MCAS does not keep the plane level. It is intended to activate in a part of the flight envelope that will rarely, if ever be entered into in service. Lion Air 043 flew without MCAS for over an hour. If the MAX was so unstable how were they able to have an u...

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Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Center of gravity has very little to do with MCAS issue. It is centre of thrust that matters (in relation to all surfaces that provide aerodynamic drag that opposes the thrust). Not doable without redesigning the aerodynamics. Crux of the issue. Being ignored by most here. Boeing has made a aerodyn...

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Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Seems to me the case on Boeing and the FAA was that with the underfunded FAA they trusted Boeing to ensure their aircraft was safe as they couldn't do a thorough testing campaign in the time that OEMs need or want. So until a issue like MCAS comes up the OEM has credit with the regulator. Once the ...

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Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Let's be honest

Max 737 has so many different things happening than 737 NG it shouldn't have been classed as grandfathering

Hence the crashes and the issues everyone is now scrambling to deal with

Putting new size engines on a plane and adding MCAS is a new plane IMO

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Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flyadeal cancels 737 max Commitment
Replies: 72
Views: 14896

Re: Flyadeal cancels 737 max order

Well, some other airline will now be able to take delivery of their 737's sooner. Sooner ? :rotfl: Aren't you the one who lectured me on "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all"? :scratchchin: If everybody cancels their orders it will give Boeing far more ti...

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Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flyadeal cancels 737 max Commitment
Replies: 72
Views: 14896

Re: Flyadeal cancels 737 max order

Is a letter of intent to buy 200 planes a firm order?

It certainly was treated like it was a couple of weeks ago?

Just saying ......

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Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

The other interesting suggestion is engineers who find problems or raise issues are viewed as troublesome

That's a bad place to be

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Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

SPEEA engineer breaks silence on Boeing's MAX 737. Read this letter https://www.kuow.org/stories/boeing-engineers-break-silence-on-max-737-read-this-letter The most interesting comment here is the suggestion that Boeing used to compete with Airbus and it was all about product and quality Now they h...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

The 737 MAX fiasco is just a reflection of a very poorly and shoddily run company. Heads need to roll starting with the CEO, Board of directors and leadership on the FAA side of the house for letting this happen on their watch. Time for Boeing to admit that they got the design wrong on this lipstic...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

You keep bringing that statement up but a) "returned to service by September" does not equal worldwide ungrounding. It's pretty likely from multiple statements including that Bloomberg article Europe will likely follow later and China even later still. If there is a worldwide ungrounding,...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Given that the total costs of the grounding will run into billions (whatever the number of billions might end up being), Boeing continues to needlessly shoot itself in the foot by announcing a victims compensation fund of just $100m, which works out at less than 300k per passenger. I’m sure lawyers...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney launching their own airline?
Replies: 168
Views: 23926

Re: Disney launching their own airline?

Carnival shelved it’s airline for the same issue: damage to the brand in the event of an incident. Hahaha I find it ironic that the “Walmart” of the seas is worried about brand image. Would imagine there's more chance of someone dying in a crash on one of their rides or on the Magical Express than ...

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by Interested
Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Do we really need to find and punish someone (who would likely be a scapegoat than actual wrongdoer)? This is yet again about holes in cheese aligning the wrong way, and the best we as a society can do is to make sure holes are patched and never align the same way again. While there are definitely ...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Do you think an airline like KLM or BA would dispatch an airplane that had been written up three times for the same problem? No, they wouldn't. It would have been sent to the maintenance base and wouldn't have left until they were certain they had identified the problem and made sure it was correct...

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

It's ok

Boeing have decided to only supply planes to airlines like KLM and BA from now on

It's their new business plan. It means they don't have to worry about plane defects or flaws as much

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by Interested
Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

And yet the very next post after yours is claiming just that. Instead of getting mad at me, how about educating the ignorant people who want to see Boeing fail? I'm on record for not wanting any aircraft manufacturer to fail. I was very much against Airbus taking the C Series and Boeing getting tog...

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Besides, it's actually been quite a long while since anyone's written "100% Boeing's fault." And yet the very next post after yours is claiming just that. Instead of getting mad at me, how about educating the ignorant people who want to see Boeing fail? I'm on record for not wanting any a...

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Of course every pilot could have done something different when faced with this terrible problem to solve

That's humans for you

The planes attempted numerous times to crash themselves and succeeded 2 out of 3 times

Boeing entirely to blame for their flawed designs

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

I wonder how much Boeing will ask in compensation from Rockwell-Collins. I wonder whether Boeing will compensate the airlines for the missed fuel burn delta. The business case of buying and operating the MAX is currently not working out for the airlines. They have a competitive disadvantage vs. the...

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

I wonder how much Boeing will ask in compensation from Rockwell-Collins. I am lost. How Rockwell Collins wronged Boeing? They are responsible for the design of MCAS. Do you understand how business works in the real world? Everything that goes into a Boeing branded plane is Boeing's responsibility S...

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

TTailedTiger wrote:
Interested wrote:
It shows the kind of desperate organisation they have become


What qualifications do you have to make such a bold claim? And you don't get to be as old as Boeing by building a substandard product.


I'm sure the old Boeing are embarrassed and ashamed by what the new Boeing have become

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

It shows the kind of desperate organisation they have become What qualifications do you have to make such a bold claim? And you don't get to be as old as Boeing by building a substandard product. Qualifications?? I'm just a normal member of the public dumbfounded that an organisation that I always ...

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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

The implication is quite clear. To state otherwise is simply gas-lighting. Even "safe" airplanes crash with the airplane itself being a factor. I'm guessing you made a conclusion first and are trying to find evidence to support it. That leads to distortions like this. What you won't find ...

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Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

I'd suggest going and doing some reading about the research that's been done on the very interesting research that's been done on how sociopaths/pyschopaths disproportionately occupy the top positions in corporation. (and in politics for that matter too). Hardly surprising when you consider the kin...

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by Interested
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Or don't have MCAS on a 737 and take away the risk of any sensors failing or having to reduce any authority or add any new training

All reasons why Max 737 can't ever be as safe as 737 NG

We've added problems

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

There is nothing wrong with using single sensor, STS also relies on single air speed signal. The key is to limit control authority so that elevator still can overpower stab in fault condition From the Bloomberg article: "During the crashes of Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines planes that killed ...

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

Boeing will never be allowed to fail

But it could end up being rescued at some stage by the US government and being an entirely different organisation to the one we see today

The name and brand will always be there I'm sure. It's too big to fail in that respect

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by Interested
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 72954

Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2019

Landed at Manchester from Montego Bay yesterday We had the "pleasure" of using the new terminal Started off by waiting 30 minutes for them to fix the walkway for us to be able to get off the plane (explanation was that they needed 2 staff to do it and only one was available) Really long wa...

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to Alleged Shoddy 787 Siteuror

Boeing is a company in crisis. I hate to say it but their survival as a leading commercial aircraft manufacturer is in jeopardy. The drip drip of bad news is killing them. I was saying this for 20 years. While I have often defended Boeing here, truth is the company has been so poorly managed for th...

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

Program heads/department heads in Seattle need to go to as they are they are the most hands on directly involved with what's going on. The heads in Chicago set the direction but they don't have much to do with day to day operations. The whole culture at Boeing seems to be broken And that starts fro...

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19063

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

I think it's a matter of time before the existing Boeing CEO is replaced

They need a fresh start. One hell of a tough turnaround job for a new guy to take on though.

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by Interested
Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Hyperbole is a perfectly valid and accepted form of dialectics that has been practised since the dawn of civilization. We aren't going to change all that just for you Revelation. Great, you now feel yourself so entitled as to speak for all of humanity. Humble much? Revelation - did you not feel eve...

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Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2310
Views: 301701

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Don't think anyone is really criticising software writers in third world countries tbh

I think people are surprised to learn that Boeing are outsourcing their software development though

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Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Anything I ever do in my own business in the future I am going to give myself more credit for I think I care more about getting things right than Boeing! And I don't have the lives of people at stake in my business Would never have imagined a company of this size and stature would have so many poor ...

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Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers (Use incognito to get past paywall) America’s favorite form of cost-cutting finally comes home to roost. Speechless. :tapedshut: Nothing I read about Boeing surprises me any more

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Is there not a faster Motorola chip that is compatible with the processor currently used? If there is, would a change of chip take long to be tested and certified to run the software which is currently run on the processor? Out of curiosity does anyone know if they have tested to see if there Is a ...

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

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I don't think you understand the situation. The problem is that the pilots may do the right action and not see the plane respond quickly enough because the computer is overloaded. They will them think they have not taken the correct action and try something else. So to speculate, the ET pilots unde...

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

This seems to be a test of what happens when a microprocessor is broken, i.e. a test of adequate redundancy, which neither Boeing nor FAA tested for previously. Puts both in a bad light. I've read at least four different accounts so far (CNN, Bloomberg, AvWeek, AirCurrent) and all say the issue is ...

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Has anyone actually got anything positive to say about the plane? I can half understand the defence of it by people and explanations of how we ended up with it etc But that's all very defensive But my question is to the people who defend the plane (or anybody for the matter). Is there actually anyth...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Great - get the NG back in production and everybody can feel safe again Will you feel that way if it is determined that the same potential cause of runaway stabilizer (a microprocessor failure) exists on the NG as well? Yes because NG doesn't have MCAS to contend with It's a proven safe plane - the...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

This would suck for both companies, but would be awesome news for everybody else and most importantly for the planet, as a new generation of small aircraft would do the same flights with a much smaller economical footprint. So here is hope that the 737 MAX will never be allowed to fly again. You ar...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Apparently the latest testing has failed. Boeing have accused the test pilot on trying too hard to get MCAS to fail and it has. Only in the sense that it took too long to recover. So AA And Southwest have put back introduction for another month. Beoing has to appreciate that they have to get this r...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

If the deceased pilots were trained on how to deal with manual trim on NG and on Max it doesn't react quick enough to the same commands then their checklist fails them doesn't it?

They even assume manual trim isn't working ?

Which of course it isn't working (properly)

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

My question now is are those pilots and the FAA also conducting that same test in the NG simulator? The article states they were simulating a runaway stabilizer scenario, so in my mind also MCAS related, but runaway stabilizer can also occur on the NG no matter how small a probability, indeed the M...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Seems Boeing's suggestion that it can be fixed via software is yet another opportunity for Boeing to disappoint should it not be fixable via software. If it is not fixable by software and a new chip with a new architecture is needed then this already enormous tragedy will go off the scales, and we'...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Would you be surprised if this was a PR effort staging how effective FAA is and not rubber stamping at all? Based on the number of negative media articles this news has created and the fact each one makes Boeing appear more incompetent then if it's a PR stunt and Boeing were party to it - then it's...

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Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Apparently the latest testing has failed. Boeing have accused the test pilot on trying too hard to get MCAS to fail and it has. Not sure if we should laugh or cry about this. The point of any decent testing program is to put a product at 300% the conditions it would normally face. Boeing's delusion...

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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Interesting to know. One question keeps bothering me is why was not grounding recommended then? Considering you had problems with compliance to the new CFR 25.1302 so quick fix was not coming. I mean you knew at the time that there is a flaw in your equipment. Fatal flaw, with potential for more ca...

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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385134

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Boeing and it's PR crisis management company are managing communications internally and externally, across all media. Since Lion, staff, contractors and suppliers have been repeatedly reminded of the rules surrounding confidentiality, dialogue with the media and contributions to social media. There...

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