People can opt to fly to the other convenient, reliable airports in the region. Doing so during this period means one would avoid the specific delays, and doing so other times would encourage airlines to offer more service there. Everyone wants to fly to SFO though, regardless of whether or not SJC/...Jump to post
I'm not sure they're going to "own" it with 3 flights vs 10 for UA and 5 for AA Snark born out of annoyance at #mostwestcoast or trying to claim to be California's airline by expanding service at tertiary airports like SBP and STS while mostly skipping over much larger airports in much la...Jump to post
AS just announced SAN/PDX-SBP. The West Coast takeover continues. AS is going to own the greater San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande metro area (23rd largest in the state) I'm not sure they're going to "own" it with 3 flights vs 10 for UA and 5 for AA Snark born out of annoyance at ...Jump to post
KLMatSJC wrote:AS just announced SAN/PDX-SBP. The West Coast takeover continues.
I know that EWR-ONT is a long route. I have to wonder if F9 will also do EWR-OAK? They're basically replacing WN at EWR...and this is more significant than the rump operation F9 has at LGA. It would seem possible but they don't serve OAK at all. Perhaps they feel between WN, NK and G4 they feel the...Jump to post
Has anyone (presumably UA or CO) flown ONT-EWR before?Jump to post
Plus it's in the San Francisco bay area, effectively serving San Francisco. Same goes for Oakland with several flights to Europe, and I think Oakland would be a smaller airport than San Jose. OAK has traditionally been bigger than SJC but SJC passed OAK last year (14,319,292 vs. 13,594,251 passenge...Jump to post
What about SJC? Service to PEK, PVG, and NRT. San Jose is the third most populous city in California, over a million people.. Doesn't seem to fit into this query. Plus it's in the San Francisco bay area, effectively serving San Francisco. Same goes for Oakland with several flights to Europe, and I ...Jump to post
What JSX needs to do is getting its operations in order. Seems like they are going through a lot of growing pains recently with all these new flights. Once they have enough of a network and a much better operation, they will have a lot more loyalty. My co-workers had their OAK-BUR flight canceled y...Jump to post
x1234 wrote:There's only sevice to Milan in Italy, not Rome which is the opposite of most US cities but Milan has more business traffic. I'd like to see AZ launch SFO-FCO in the summer (just like LAX). Also OS launch SFO-VIE. That's all the service I see coming to SFO.
what OAK was able to build up?? The Airlines obviously wanted to fly into SFO or they wouldn't have went there. There's nothing wrong with OAK other than it's in the same Metro area as SFO and that's the name recognized around the world. Just like JFK is recognized over EWR for New York City. It wa...Jump to post
It's disappointing OAK can't keep service like this. DY is exactly the sort of airline you could see setting up shop at OAK and being successful. And it appears they were, for a while to an extent, but as long as SFO is right there across the bay airlines that have the option to operate there will e...Jump to post
SJC numbers out: https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/Bay-Area-airports-by-the-numbers-13607810.php The struggle of the intercontinental flights does surprise me. I don't know if it's a failure of marketing them and getting the word out, or if the strength of UA at SFO is just too great to pull th...Jump to post
Is Norwegian pulling completely out of OAK this winter? I heard rumors of this so I tried to make a booking and no tickets are being sold to any destination past October 27, 2019. SFO still just shows LGW only. Last winter LGW, BCN, and CDG all operated at OAK. Obviously the LGW was moved to SFO, b...Jump to post
I hear that CPH-JFK/LAX/FLL ARN-MCO/JFK OSL-MCO/LAX will be come summer only and that they’ll start to fly to the Caribbean/warm seaside destinations for tour companies instead. Heard the same. All the nordic long hauls to North America will become seasonal only. And OAK? Everything seasonal? Nothi...Jump to post
AA also already serves SFO and SJC in the San Francisco Bay Area nonstop from DFW. In addition, there are many travelers in the San Francisco Bay Area who prefer to fly on UA or WN since UA has a hub at SFO and WN has focus cities at both OAK and SJC. DFW-OAK appears to be suspended Dec 3-April 7. ...Jump to post
*AA DFW-OAK DEC 1.0>0.1[1.0] JAN 1.0>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0[1.0] MAR 1.0>0[1.0] And DFW-OAK has been all over the map ever since it started. IIRC, it quickly jumped to twice daily and ever since has been a seesaw of frequency adjustments. Seems like they could at least make an E175 work if mainline is to...Jump to post
flyPIT wrote:Lets look at the nation's largest major tech centers in no particular order:
SJC - Eliminated
SFO - Capacity issues and lots of competition
Sometimes, I get the impression you have it in for SJC ;) DL obviously sees some kind of potential there, perhaps the same thing that WN and AS see, perhaps a different segment of the market. M I can see why you would have that impression, but believe me that it's really nothing personal. I'm just ...Jump to post
Hawaii (2 year round, 2 seasonal) destinations, Seasonal Mexico (SJD, PVR), JFK, DCA, BOS, ORD, MCI, DAL, AUS, are some of the available connections, some longer than others. I expect PAE to be timed for banks out of PDX, timed - morning 8-11am bank, mid-day 11am - 3pm bank & an evening departu...Jump to post
Right. You also know the PDEW is skewed because of leakage to SFO. Just because 125 people travel from SJC-BOS doesn’t mean there isn’t demand for more. There could be many people going to SFO due to lack of options from SJC. They by both of your logic, an airline should never add a new route? Afte...Jump to post
Presumably if there was large unmet demand on SJC-BOS, B6 would have expanded from their sole red eye at some point. SFO-BOS seems overserved at the moment, which probably discourages anyone from considering additional BOS-OAK/SJC flights. Oh come on now 'Tim' . What kind of logic is that?! Oh yeah...Jump to post
The first new route that came to my mind is SJC-BOS. That market seems really underserved. AA once had 4x on that route. I’m surprise AS hasn’t added it yet. Presumably if there was large unmet demand on SJC-BOS, B6 would have expanded from their sole red eye at some point. SFO-BOS seems overserved...Jump to post
PAE-SMF sounds right. That’s my guess too. PAE-OAK is my next guess. I don’t see PAE-GEG being that big of a market, but I could be wrong. Something like PAE-OGG could be a dark-horse if they are able to start mainline there. AS doesn't really have any interest in OAK. Loads between SEA and OAK are...Jump to post
DL is over 5 (!) times bigger at SFO than at SJC, but SJC is the focus city?Jump to post
The contingency plan should be a new airport, or expanding the current one into the bay. The delays are caused by limits to runway acceptance rates due to close parallels. GF Yup. Extending into the bay would obviously be the easiest, but there is zero political appetite to do so, which is beyond f...Jump to post
Another week of crickets from AS. Perhaps congrats are in order as they seem to have settled on the ideal perfectly efficient schedule, with no further tweaks required. Surprising no other airlines have managed to figure that out.Jump to post
Alsatian wrote:carljanderson wrote:enilria wrote:DL LGB-SLC NOV 4>5 JAN 4>5 FEB 4>5
So here is 1 of the 4 new slots... Leaving 3x daily to ????? https://lbpost.com/news/southwest-delta ... h-airport/
I would bet on 2x SEA and 1x ATL.
Another week of tumbleweeds from ASJump to post
A friend in the pilot union confirms they are demo'ing the A220. It is more of a concern that an AD on the 737 could ground the entire airline overnight. The same risk exists for all single fleet type airlines. For this reason I'm surprised they've always kept all their eggs in one basket. Seems cr...Jump to post
JetSuiteX starting OAK-BFI 3x daily on July 1 https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/J ... 786456.phpJump to post
XE BUR-CCR MAY 0>1.6[0.9] XE BUR-LAS MAY 0>6[1.0] XE BUR-OAK MAY 0>5[1.2] XE LAS-OAK MAY 0>3 XE LAS-SNA MAY 0>3 XE OAK-SNA MAY 0>1.9 Nice to see someone taking advantage of AS's avoidance of OAK. 6x to BUR, 4x to SNA, 4x to LAS (by July) are approaching competitive with WN for many schedul...Jump to post
OAK recently spent $33 mil on Terminal 1 but managed to avoid any customer-facing improvements (https://www.portofoakland.com/press-releases/press-release-342/). Concessions are being overhauled now so the end product there should be a significant improvement but I don’t think there are other major ...Jump to post
SJC and OAK pretty much always get f***ed by SFO. Or by local people’s belief that the only airport in the Bay Area is SFO. I would guess the problem is everyone else, not locals. Tourists and other visitors want to fly to “San Francisco” airport and may not know if another airport might be closer ...Jump to post
FLIHGH wrote:OAK-IAD actually held on for pretty long, but I don’t believe it was daily towards the end. But, it made it to this decade.
It seems like B6 could add a daytime OAK-JFK given the growth in the East Bay. I was a frequent flyer on the route from ~2012-2015 and always hoped for every schedule extension to see a daytime flight added as the economy moved out of the recession and got stronger year after year. Like AS though, ...Jump to post
Also started OAK-FLL in 2006; I don't know how long it lasted though - https://www.oaklandairport.com/jetblue-airways-inaugurates-new-daily-nonstop-to-fort-lauderdale-florida-from-oak/. 16 daily flights to five destinations at that point. OAK-IAD lasted through the worst recession years before it wa...Jump to post
That one nonstop is cancelled as of next month, with only connections via PHX to fly OAK-DFW. Obviously AA has seen the market cannot support nonstops to DFW and beyond so obviously the SFO, SJC and SMF's have the flights. OAK connections obviously set to route all via PHX so better use of that air...Jump to post
Ossyoos wrote:Does anyone know what Seattle and Oakland are flying back from Tokyo?
I saw a picture that has the Mariners boarding an Atlas 747 of some form, but no tail number.
I cannot find any connecting routings or schedules from DEN to HNL via any of the California gateways. I tried random dates for a DEN-xxx-HNL trip, but no dice. SmithAir747 And THIS may be how AS, DL and UA survive WN to Hawaii. WN has nearly no connecting to most places east of CA. If AS is smart,...Jump to post
SmithAir747 wrote:I cannot find any connecting routings or schedules from DEN to HNL via any of the California gateways. I tried random dates for a DEN-xxx-HNL trip, but no dice.
It'd be nice if the on/off/on/off ATL-OAK flight finally sticks permanently, especially after DL dropped OAK-LAX (and has declined to start OAK-SEA)Jump to post
Thank you for your responses. She's booked for OAK now. I believe it's around an hour and three quarters by road. That'll be what, a $200 cab ride ? Could take BART to Warm Springs ($11.15) then Uber/cab from there. UberX estimate right now is $106 Warm Springs to Monterey. Not quick or cheap though.Jump to post
Looks like SJC is officially going to pass OAK for #2 in the Bay Area and #4 in the state https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/new ... -2018.htmlJump to post
I always wondered how flight paths worked when Alameda Naval Air Station was open. It's 5.5 mi away from OAK and directly under the normal departure from rwy 30.Jump to post
Will passengers fly to OAK? They just might. Absolutely. Public transit links to San Francisco, as well as easy access to Wine Country, Lake Tahoe, and other popular tourist areas in northern California. Well there's what people *should* do based on the fundamentals of the location you cite and the...Jump to post