By the way, isn't it dubious that ET final crash report is nowhere to be seen ?Jump to post
We should not forget that the FAA is a state agency. While a corrupted private company can be thrown to the lion’s den, the state has its own way of dealing with such blows. It will not openly go into all the drama nor admit too much but will solve the problems in a discreet manner. I’m fairly sure ...Jump to post
When should happen the long-awaited Max flight with Dickson on board ?Jump to post
No mention of FAA's botched response to the first accident and rubber stamping Boeing's less than perfect procedures for dealing with MCAS rather than doing a full investigation that might have avoided the second accident. I can't help but think part of this was because the FAA and Boeing were of t...Jump to post
Boeing restarting Max production without positive feedback from major international regulators regarding the modifications package? Maybe they know more than they are willing to tell.Jump to post
Still no final ET crash report, not even sources or leaks talking about its imminent release or delay...Jump to post
Some are pointing out the advantage of military/defense programs for keeping a company afloat. I wonder for how long these programs will run as scheduled and make purchases as planned before Covid-19. In my opinion, with the abyssal deficit all governments are facing, military fundings/spendings wil...Jump to post
They can obviously negotiate good prices these times. However, they will do this as captives of a monopoly market.Jump to post
Max customers don’t want planes in the near term anymore than Neo customers. We cannot know what's happening behind the scene. If all customers don't want planes anymore, then we would have seen production rate dropping to zero. I guess not all customers have the same profile, ressources, support, ...Jump to post
[*] A320: From 60 down to 40 (reduction of 33%) [*] A350: From 9.5 down to 6 (reduction of 37%) [*] A330: From 3.5 down to 2 (reduction of 43%) Last week there was an announcement about the A32X going down more, to 30-36. Today we see down to 40. I wonder if meanwhile Airbus got any phone calls fro...Jump to post
I'm expecting everything can and will be adjusted further, depending on worldwide pandemic and economic progress. What we see are the next two weeks prediction, kind of.Jump to post
So, Boeing could "easy fix" MCAS only partially, out of context. A full fix needs to address all the other aspects related to it. And that's so shameful that the regulator had to point it out. Where are the Boeing engineers, since the Lion Air crash that uncovered the mess for the first ti...Jump to post
Exactly what I said. If you're Boeing, then certification rules are for fools. You know better than regulators what's good and what's bad and you follow only what's convenient.Jump to post
You're basically saying that, Boeing should have cheated the regulators with the bit flip, instead of cheating with the other stuff they cheated. That's interesting to acknowledge, your degree of sharing Boeing's smokes and mirrors methods instead of building an airplane according to certification r...Jump to post
MCAS was easily fixed. It was the bit flip issue that seems to have caused so many issues. Always amusing to read your interpretations of facts. Please remind us, what did that Canadian regulator guy report in last fall leaked email ? What I wrote isn't wrong - it was a relatively easy fix until th...Jump to post
morrisond wrote:MCAS was easily fixed. It was the bit flip issue that seems to have caused so many issues.
I'd suggest Boeing's obsession with avoiding sim training was indeed that, an obsession rather than a logical conclusion. The marketing department surely pushed hard for this requirement. It was so convenient for every single entity involved. Huge pressure on engineers... for sure huge bonuses on t...Jump to post
The main feature of MAX10 is that it is a 737 so can easily be added to the fleets of 737 operators. Easy to add the MAX, maybe, however not that easy as previous economics calculations. Now we know that the MAX will need retraining, thus the business case for the MAX is less attractive than before...Jump to post
Big Airlines will order it, because of their dual source policies and risk management considerations. :worried: Lessons learned.. :worried: It might be possible that "lesson learned" goes both ways. Since the 787 up to the Max, what lessons are airlines CEO's learning from Boeing ? Airlin...Jump to post
As long as airliners stay as tube with wings, the A32X is upgradable virtually till the end of times. The MAX, if RTS, will carry on with unplanned handicap - the retraining requirement, while a Boeing clean sheet design cannot categorically beat an upgraded A32X while suffering of lack of commonali...Jump to post
So they are resuming production ahead of the final analysis by the regulators.
That’s a strong background for another saga chapter.
The Airbus envelope protection should have avoided any real danger, or not, in this case ?Jump to post
,is an A322 still be studied? - How will CFM respond, does the LEAP also have growth / improvement potential left? 1. A322? If Airbus actually wants to kill the A330-800neo. 2. I don't know if the LEAP's design can allow CFM to push its thrust to 4000lbf. The LEAP was designed from the CFM56 series...Jump to post
No word about re certification and FAA's approval, but they're telling the planet about restarting production.
Now, let's not forget how desperate is the situation behind the smokes. It might influence rationality in every behaviour.
Good for Dennis he got out in time, before Boeing had the good sense to fire him outright, without bonuses and stock benefits. It's amazing how my own (naive) opinion changed over time. One year ago I was thinking What a strange situation, he as CEO wasn't aware of the garbage some employees were d...Jump to post
Airbus cancels planned dividends over coronavirus https://www.dw.com/en/airbus-cancels-15-billion-in-dividends-over-coronavirus/a-52884866 European aviation giant Airbus on Monday said it was canceling a planned dividend payment and revoking its 2020 earnings forecast in the face of the global econ...Jump to post
Boeing has suspended dividends & share buybacks until further notice. Also Calhoun will take no pay for the rest of this year . Wait a minute, how is it possible ? I mean does Calhoun's job terms allows it ? Or else that's an abuse. Imagine you are an employee and the hierarchy tells you that f...Jump to post
Airbus ended (by chance) the A380 just before the crisis and any shrinking A32X orders will open slots for Max switchers. Taking a Max order is not anymore a matter of patience but of economic disadvantage, because of its mandatory training, not to mention the hard to assess impact of public fear fo...Jump to post
Imagine if the A380 program wasn't ended recently. If wouldn't have survived anyway this covid-19 crisis. However, being already history, it is one less pain. Once again Airbus is lucky, being caught by the crisis in the best possible configuration. Boeing on the other hand ... not only the Max fias...Jump to post
If building the Max with the results we see today was a huge challange, then Boeing should try the alternative huge challange - a clean sheet design. If they can't succeed that either, correctly and in decent timeframe, then perhaps this company has nothing to do in aviation industry ? We can see he...Jump to post
A clean sheet airliner would be free of Jurrassic legacies. Any design done right would have nothing to fear from any regulator. Today's business case of Max is so different from what it was back when sold to airlines. Beside being late, it will require training and will have to cope with the public...Jump to post
~5500 MAX frames on backorder. Worth right around 700 billion at list prices. And the suggestion is this is the right time to shutter the program. Good thing many of you are not on the board of Boeing. Talk about making a poor decision worse. And ramp up its replacement in 5 years without revenue f...Jump to post
They lost one whole year (~1/5 the timescale of a new program), built another 400 frames (!), bought and stockpiled many other additional parts frames, spent big money with re-certification tries, grounding maintenance and what not. Sure, I already know who will immediately ask the price of a time m...Jump to post
When the Max was first “certified”, I imagine all the managers involved got a nice bonus for achievement. Today, when the total loss induced by their achievement seems to rise somewhere into uncertainty at 50 billions dollars and possibly more, what can Boeing do with these individuals that almost b...Jump to post
The problem is that the checklist remained unchanged between the NG and the MAX and continuous means different things in both types. Which was a definite issue with Lionair as they had no knowledge that MCAS existed (although it did take them minutes to find any checklist - which is a training issu...Jump to post
"Kick 'em while their down" is the unofficial motto of MoL, something he's shown to be remarkably skilled at previously. The post-9/11 "raping" as well as today's proposal undoubtfully not different in spirit, sets MOL as benchmark for desperate times. “ You know that your probl...Jump to post
Regarding all those employees caught on air by the revealed messages, what do you think, are they still with Boeing now?Jump to post
Sure, I know he was a sub-manager under the chief program manager, but that bragging exposed him like no other.
The "true root cause" will be interpreted differently by every manager involved, especially for rejecting own guilt. That bragging, however, will "testimony" forever.
He is hoping that his ploy to use Forkner as a scapegoat works, but I doubt it will. Program managers from everywhere are highly responsible and accountable for their project, no matter what other departments or hierarchy levels will do. No need of scapegoat theory, it is no secret that if their mi...Jump to post
If that's the case he knew how the work was done, he must have had balls of steel to double down after the JT crash. The sensible move then would have been to ground "out of an abundance of caution" and get the fix through the system before all the rest was discovered. It didn't take a ro...Jump to post
Boeing's new CEO says the MAX issues were not a result of cost factors, but wrong assumptions about how pilots react to failures. In my opinion this statement alone proves that Calhoun is the wrong guy at the helm. He has been part of that cost cutting culture for a decade already. He's not "n...Jump to post
As I wrote earlier, I'm more inclined to believe he simply did not dig very deeply and preferred to defer to underlings. This is my impression after watching his Congressional testimony. That testimony is nothing but a carefully planified show. Given enough $$$ everyone will make fools of themselve...Jump to post
So if Muilenberg had been fired last Summer or early Fall the MAX would be back flying by now? I don't think so. If Muilenberg had never even been CEO, JT and ET would not have happened? I don't think so. The BoD let him go for specific cause, not to make him a scapegoat for this whole sorry mess. ...Jump to post
I disagree on the extent of the FAA & International Regulator interest. While it started as just MCAS (and everything I have heard was that the FAA flight testing in June found no problems with MCAS R2 ); but the bit flip issue expanded the revision and review to the flight control computers. T...Jump to post
Then there isn't yet any analyse about what damage comes from the first respectively second missile. From the crashed parts, investigators could only assess the combined damage. From the first missile we know for sure only that it damaged some of the avionics with the lose of ADSB. Well, I posited ...Jump to post
Also we don't know the damage brought by the first missile, to say 100% sure that the plane was already doomed. The evidence seems to point to the first missile hitting the plane just below the cockpit almost certainly killing the pilots. That would also correspond with losing ADSB at that point. T...Jump to post
I'm not assuming anything nor excluding anything. Things can happen in every second. In our case: second thoughts, better identification, someone from the team making 1+1 or the commander finally answering the call. I say that it wasn't a case of bad decision after 10 seconds as initially reported b...Jump to post
If you've already made the decision and fired your first missile, seeing the target continue (and probably make you assume you missed) only leaves you with one course of action. Fire again and make sure. I repeat. During this lapse of time someone else from the AA squad could have put their minds t...Jump to post