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by TaromA380
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing announces Board and Management Changes
Replies: 333
Views: 30674

Re: Boeing announces Board and Management Changes

In the three best years of Boeing pre -max they had $8.9, $9.2 and $12.6B of free cash flow from 2016-2018 respectively. Analysts (even after all the recent the recent events) are predicting that they get back to about $6.5B in 2025 and $8.5 in 2026 and with 777-8/9 hopefully contributing after, go...

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by TaromA380
Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United
Replies: 400
Views: 70549

Re: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United

This may simply be an attempt by Airbus to look good to UA, without costing them anything. The whole ordeal of trying to find early slots from early customers applies to almost all customers before they have to resign and order 6 or 7 years in advance. This happens even after the order has been plac...

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA possibly cancelling 73M10 order?
Replies: 227
Views: 36231

Re: UA possibly cancelling 73M10 order?

The fact that COMAC has not even attempted EASA/FAA certification suggests that they have a realistic long term view (unsurprising for PRC state enterprises). They are already after the EASA certification: China seeks European approval of C919 I guess it's only a matter of time for COMAC to go afte...

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by TaromA380
Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

One possible compromise in a peace agreement would be the obvious front line as future official border. By your logic, if i steal half your money, burn half your house and kill your dog, I should be able to get away with it as long as I maintain I wanted to steal everything, burn your entire house ...

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by TaromA380
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Even if Ukraine decided today to negotiate toward some compromise less than their current plan, what would that be? https://war.ukraine.ua/faq/zelenskyys-10-point-peace-plan/ Look at this through Ukraine's eyes, and it doesn't seem so obscure. Supposing they were willing to give up Donetsk and Luha...

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by TaromA380
Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

It's not that simple, politicians are many. Speaking of France, an article from august 2023: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2023/08/17/sarkozy-criticized-for-call-to-compromise-with-russia_6096373_5.html France's former president Nicolas Sarkozy has stirred outrage in Kyiv and Paris by s...

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by TaromA380
Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I admit it's strange to see a European politician spontaneously underline the harsh reality of peace negotiations by at least abandoning the territories already lost. It's a kind of broken taboo. However, with or without such statements, the situation on the ground remains unchanged. To negotiate pe...

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by TaromA380
Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:46 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

In this World War I-like scenario, the loser will be the first to implode.

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by TaromA380
Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

As for tanks, AFV and artillery . . . Seems like we are getting a steady stream of new SPG being provided to Ukraine. While the rate is low, it doesn't seem Ukraine is losing too many thru attrition. And the US still have a ton of M109s in storage. The US still have a lot of Bradleys. Not a lot of ...

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by TaromA380
Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

7) Now, with the counteroffensive having failed, and Russia retaking the initiative: this is all pointless and the cost is too high for the west to sustain. [...] Ukraine needs more material support, and we in the west are capable of giving an abundance of it, especially from our old stockpiles You...

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by TaromA380
Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:28 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

What did the military need in Vietnam that it didn't have? I can't see it as having been short-changed in manpower, money, or material. The problem was that victory was defined as a goal that military force couldn't deliver. The real mistake was not recognizing South Vietnam as a lost cause from th...

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by TaromA380
Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 84
Views: 14852

Re: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024

Anyone can write such a "report", sorry. The airlines should know better in due time, anyway.

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by TaromA380
Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 84
Views: 14852

Re: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024

The C919 is known to be less efficient and the only thing that it is potentially brings to the table is price. But the main driver of price for industrial complex goods is scale. We don't know much about the C919's efficiency, yet. However, as a tube with wings powered by LeapX fans, it should be i...

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by TaromA380
Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:25 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Actually, I think it is good reading for everyone in this discussion. It's good not merely because it pointed out one of the potential outcomes was exactly what happened, but also because the point it makes about the West needing a long term plan for what support they want to give Ukraine and how t...

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by TaromA380
Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C929 discussion thread
Replies: 588
Views: 5922

COMAC C929 Development and Testing - 2024

After the COMAC C919 narrowbody entered service in 2023, it's now the turn of the Chinese widebody to be developed and tested. The program began in 2017 as a China/Russia joint venture CRAIC CR929, but in 2023 the Russians were ousted and the program is now called COMAC C929 . The C929 programme ent...

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 84
Views: 14852

Re: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024

The list price doesn't really matter. When the time will come selling the C919 in the EU and the USA, the purchase price will be "Chinese enough" to attract like nothing else, all things being equal.

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 84
Views: 14852

Re: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024

Let’s see how the C919 certification process unfolds Or let's see how this micro player is conquering the world, right under our eyes. As long as it's a clever-managed project, it won't stop at certification. So far, it doesn't look like ARJ21. Different eras, different generations, different objec...

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:11 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Request: New Ukraine War Thread
Replies: 13
Views: 2275

Re: Request: New Ukraine War Thread

Nor do I have a problem with the particular length of the thread. It's divided into pages of 50 posts anyway.

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417654

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Who is to blame for the loss of the CVR recording? Once back on the ground, who should have pulled the circuit breaker to prevent the recording from being overwritten?

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 84
Views: 14852

Re: COMAC C919 Production / Deliveries - 2024

COMAC is going for EASA certification of the C919 to expand its market. https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3247291/china-seeks-european-approval-c919-wants-its-home-grown-jet-compete-boeing-and-airbus-abroad?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage It's huge! History in the making, rig...

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by TaromA380
Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Old habits die hard. I hope that calling any opinion that differs from yours "Russian propaganda" and attacking the user instead of its idea will eventually stop. I can see that the last few months have broken the taboo of always being optimistic about Ukraine. Over the course of 2023, my ...

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by TaromA380
Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems
Replies: 168
Views: 41384

Re: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems

Excerpts from here: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/101015/how-can-ural-airlines-fly-its-a320-from-unpaved-field How can Ural Airlines fly its A320 from unpaved field? I'm from Novosibirsk and lived there for 30+ years, so I know how things work in that climate pretty well. 1. The groun...

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by TaromA380
Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Without being able to launch the nukes they inherited from the USSR, they were of no deterrent value to Ukraine, so pretty pointless keeping them. I don't see disposing of them as a mistake any more. With insight, they could have built their own nuclear weapons control and firing system. It would h...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

This is what I would call a good example of a propaganda article, based on thin air, If one have read from the author extensively, then one would not have dismissed the insight as coming from thin air. I took a look. Nothing but propaganda, in my opinion. A good start to analyzing reality would be ...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9 ... illery-war

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This is what I would call a good example of a propaganda article, based on thin air, with the aim of maintaining a myth.
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bikerthai wrote:
An explanation on what's happening to Russian artilery.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9 ... illery-war

bt

This is what I would call a good example of a propaganda article, based on thin air, with the aim of maintaining a myth.

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by TaromA380
Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Why Russians rapidly occupied southern Ukraine early in invasion/ A dozen bridges connect Ukraine to occupied Crimea. Only a few of them were mined on February 24 2022. Unanswered questions have fueled debate among Ukrainians since Russia’s rapid seizure of Kherson and advance on Mariupol early in ...

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by TaromA380
Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems
Replies: 168
Views: 41384

Re: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems

Ural Airlines spoke about the condition of the plane that landed in a field near Novosibirsk The Ural Airlines airliner , which made an emergency landing near Novosibirsk, is still in the field. Three engineers from the airline's aviation technical center are working at the scene of the emergency. ...

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by TaromA380
Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

It's the same as targeting infrastructure and civilian targets. That's the only thing they know how to do. I think thats the only thing they know where it actually is. As far as all the pictures and videos you can find, Russia was only able to hit some military infrastructure initially but since th...

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by TaromA380
Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

But comparison with WWII is not my point. My point is that maps are usually lagging indicators for the ability of either side to continue to fight. We agree on this point. Anything unexpected can happen tomorrow. However, an unexpected change in the trench stalemate we're observing is open to specu...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

There are not only governement elections, but also legislative, local and European (for EU countries) elections. At each of these, the opposition's rhetoric will be similar. I don't read the future either, so I can't say how Western aid will evolve over time; I'm merely observing old mechanisms and ...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

The willingness to support has not shown any sign of abating from those countries, either materially or verbally. However, as elsewhere, every aid announcement is accompanied by a storm of criticism from the political opposition. This slowly but surely affects the reliability of future aid. So Ukra...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

This is not just about Ukraine. If Russia gets Ukraine, where next?. It's too virtual for the average taxpayer, who will be manipulated by political opponents "We have no money for our poor, we're already living on credit, Ukraine is corrupt and your money is stolen blah blah". To answer ...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Today, the Russians are consoling themselves with Plan B (Dombas + land link to Crimea), but there's no guarantee that the Russians won't try Plan A (occupation of the whole of Ukraine) again at the first opportunity. Ukraine's supply of money and weapons depends on so many external political factor...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

. . . the loss of a significant number of irreplaceable soldiers in exchange for a mere 0.3% of occupied territory can only be described as a disaster Russia's plan B - to win the Donbass and a land connection to Crimea - seems to be going well. Do you see the problem here? Trying to hold on to &qu...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Now Ukraine is also making assumed sacrifices to regain control in those areas and considers that a positive thing. So "going well" is out the window unless you close the blinds and refuse to look outside. Once again, Russia's Plan B is going well, as it has clearly succeeded in occupying...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

The map never lies. . The map may not be telling lies but it doesn't tell the whole story either. What did the map of the Western Front look like shortly before the German surrender in 1918? Interesting perspective, which has in fact already been raised - of course in a one-sided way concealing a w...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Russia may control the areas on a map but it does not have true command or freedom of movement in said area without significant and constant effort and reinforcement. And as it currently stands, active combat and attacks will be on going in those areas it claims for a long time if it stays, again r...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I am trying to figure out how you come to this conclusion? "Going well" seems to mean having an active fighting force that requires constant resupply of men and material, while suffering daily losses of both as well as continuous attacks on infrastructure. My conclusion is based on the ma...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I don't see gaining a couple of hundred sq km as a disaster. Losing a few thousand would be a different story. The situation in Ukraine could indeed have been worse. However, the loss of a significant number of irreplaceable soldiers in exchange for a mere 0.3% of occupied territory can only be des...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Ukraine has liberated 300 square kilometers (115 square miles) of territory from Russia since the start of its summer counteroffensive, but minimizing casualties as troops move forward in tough conditions has been its priority, Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar said. In an interview with CNN Sen...

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by TaromA380
Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:18 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

It's likely the Ukrainian tactics have switched from massed assaults to bite and hold operations; conduct piecemeal small attacks and take territory that is well within Ukrainian ability to hold and defend against counter-attacks. It's a slow, methodical method that reduces risk to the Ukrainians t...

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by TaromA380
Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Barbarossa began on June 2 2 1941, but cskok8 was referring to the Soviet Union's invasion of eastern Poland on September 17, 1939, following the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/16kufac/ru_pov_mariupol_theatre_under_full/ Mariupol Theatre Under Full Rec...

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by TaromA380
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 2019 amazing landing of Ural A321 on a corn field was not a miracle at all, but the result of many pilot errors
Replies: 13
Views: 3928

The 2019 amazing landing of Ural A321 on a corn field was not a miracle at all, but the result of many pilot errors

5640971 Summary of the 2019 topic: Ural Airlines A321 VQ-BOZ 15 august 2019 Moscow emergency landing And we have ourselves a Russian version of Sully. This is indeed the Russian version of the Hudson miracle. actually pilots become Heros of Russian Federation and FAs got Orders of Courage And now t...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

So these Heroes of Russia - according to the test pilot - were in fact incompetent pilots who did not follow the procedures they were supposed to know without needing to refer to written check lists. According to him, the flight control software saved the passengers from the lousy flying of the pil...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems
Replies: 168
Views: 41384

Re: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems

Update: Ural Airlines Plans To Fly A320 Out Of Field! Initially, the information we had was that the flight went around during its final approach into Omsk, because of a hydraulic issue. It now seems that this was inaccurate. The airline and Russian authorities now say that the crew abandoned their ...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Now, Tarom, you were writing here saying that Russia was getting round the sanctions affecting civil aviation, weren't you? Man learns while he lives. This isn't the first time I've had to update my thoughts on a subject. Hot on the heels of my opinion on the ability of Russian aviation to cope wit...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Closely related to civil aviation: excerpt from the december 2022 Russian interview Sanctions have begun - and screw you, no engines! (you need to translate it in your browser) Hero of Russia, Honored Test Pilot Alexander Garnaev explains what is happening to Russian aviation. [About Russian acciden...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

As a percentage of occupied territory liberated, Ukraine's gains are miniscule. Around 400 sq km out of around 90,000 sq km occupied. Less than 1% of occupied territory liberated since the beginning of June. The figure is even less than 0.5%, for which the Ukrainian army has lost far more resources...

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by TaromA380
Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

French OSINT assessment of the territorial gains of Ukraine & Russia from June 4 to September 15. Yellow: Territory liberated by Ukrainian Army (total 388 km²) Blue: Territory occupied by Russian Army (total 79 km²) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6KSz_gX0AADmed?format=jpg https://twitter.com/clash...

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by TaromA380
Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507374

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Ukraine declared its independence in 1991, but it did not immediately and totally leave Russia's satellite orbit.
What we see today is Ukraine's war of independence, after other progressive events that led to its complete autonomy.

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