The "say altitude" calls from controllers were pretty frequent. I does appear they were in the dark about altitude. And thus, this aircraft may indeed have had problems squawking. This really does seem to have been a pretty serious situation. Not second guessing here, but I am surprised th...
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LiveATC has it in their interesting recordings archive
http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php ... ttach=8999
F9 777: "Hey uh, Frontier Flight... triple seven out of seven point two for ten, we need to return to the airport. We've got some problems here, I'm not sure of the nature, we'll call you back." Looks like departure put 'em at 8000, and turned 'em once. Asked nature of problem. Got no answer. Turned...
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Jump to postPerhaps this is the flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EFT1526
Some speculation will be needed on the N-number.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pope?src=hash">#Pope</a> is ahead of schedule, can't land at Andrews. POTUS still en route to welcome him, so <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShepardOne?src=hash">#ShepardOne</a> is circling....
Jump to postLatest registrations seems to indicate owned by Beechcraft.
Jump to postAviate. Navigate. Communicate.
Stop bashing ATC. He (both of them on the recording) did nothing wrong.
Sad.
Not to make light of the tragedy, thanks for the quick find of the liveatc, BigSaabowski.
Started takeoff roll at intersection? Some seem to be speculating this.
Jump to posthttp://flightaware.com/live/flight/SKW6460
Staying close to KDEN. Any ideas?
The best part of the live feed is the person shooting bottle rockets off in the distance, but within earshot of the camera.
Jump to postI was just flaming itsnotfinals about Skybus. Had to remember code for Columbus, <acronym title="Comair (USA)">OH</acronym>. A <acronym title="Safair (South Africa)">FA</acronym> once told me she used: <acronym title="Columbus - Port Columbus International (CMH / KCMH), USA - Ohio">CMH</acronym> = C...
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Jump to postCMH is a fine airport... in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of a nobody population. How many times does The Limited crew need to head to Paris non-stop. Oh wait, Lexner has his own plane(s). But Ryanair is smart, they might know something about extracting public money out of an eager city and/o...
Jump to postNo TCAS. That's the only change I really care about, since we are still using the same ATC system from the so-called, "golden age" (Controllers are as good today as they were then. And they were damn good then.) I think market forces have been good for both the industry and customers. A to B is all ...
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Jump to postSure <acronym title="Columbus - Port Columbus International (CMH / KCMH), USA - Ohio">CMH</acronym> is marginally better amenity-wise, but it's still a dump of a place to hub a startup, point-to-point airline. (Central) Ohio can't support their notion, again IMO. How about changing the thread a litt...
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Jump to postThanks for those who cleared up my guess. Since we have deviated into a new thread voting on the success of Skybus, I'll add my two cents. I think their b-model is crap (it's generated a lot of buzz, though which they deserve KUDOS) so I am surprised by how well funded, and by whom, they are. So I c...
Jump to postThat makes mucho sense. I thought they only had three. I saw the Oakland flight today, and thinking only three planes doubly wondered why they would be moving a plane between a city pair that did include <acronym title="Columbus - Port Columbus International (CMH / KCMH), USA - Ohio">CMH</acronym>. ...
Jump to postTraveling tomorrow. I heard a news blurb that cell phones and laptops are check-only items for domestic U.S. flights. Is this correct?
Jump to postAsk the crew, I bet they considered themselves long for where they would have wanted to be that night for that WX. They would have been after the first 1,000 of 31. Or ask any other ALPA type you know.
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Jump to postToo bad they landed long. I was hoping for otherwise.
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Jump to postNike corporate jet.
4 employees on board. 3 senior executives. Possibly new CEO.
Right gear not retracting.
One report claims first inservice flight of the aircraft.
[Edited 2005-11-21 20:52:02]
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