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by planemanofnz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 17614

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020

NZ ... will need to use Star to offer its customers the world. It would be interesting though if, on the contrary, NZ decided to open up some niche routes bypassing Star hubs, to avoid Covid-19 risks at those transit hubs. There has been some commentary about New Zealand-originating passengers poss...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 17614

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020

Originair, Hamilton Airport prepare to restart regional passenger route Hamilton Airport and Nelson’s Originair have reinstated a domestic route dropped by Air New Zealand during the coronavirus alert levels. I'm curious - what is the primary target market for this route? Is there a lot of business...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 17614

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2020

Another former Air NZ route taken up but the timings might not be so popular compared with the early morning Q300 schedule. So we know now where their new Jetstream is going. Origin are also looking in to re starting the former Kiwi Air Nelson to Hamilton route. I wonder if they will look at the We...

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by planemanofnz
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

Speaking of Origin Air they have a third Jetstream now with the latest one being registered to them as ZK-JSK. Be interesting to see what new route they announce with this perhaps NSN-HLZ or NSN-DUD. http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2020/08/its-official.html I'm not sure NSN to HLZ or DUD would work ...

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by planemanofnz
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

Does anyone know what that 'By Invitation Only' rooms in the Koru Lounges are?

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

NZ6 wrote:
... complete changes are happening urgently.

Does this mean we can expect more flights to be loaded in the coming days?

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

Even though the rest of the country is only at level 2, it seems NZ has cut most of its remaining domestic flights. For example, no CHC-WLG flights 20-25 August can be booked, at this stage. Cheers, C. I think they're reworking the schedule to best utilise fleet and crew (for example, some A320 ser...

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by planemanofnz
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

Even though the rest of the country is only at level 2, it seems NZ has cut most of its remaining domestic flights.

For example, no CHC-WLG flights 20-25 August can be booked, at this stage.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

Perhaps AIR NZ could operate a Whangarei to Wellington Q300 service to allow Northland people to connect to the rest of the nation. Didn't this route used to operate in the past, with the B1900D? Is it something Sounds Air could perhaps explore? The PC-12 has the range. You do raise an interesting ...

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by planemanofnz
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 24196

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2020

https://www.jetstar.com/nz/en/travel-alerts

Cheers,

C.
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JQ has suspended all domestic flying in New Zealand until 26 August.

I guess crewing/aircraft rotations made WLG - CHC / ZQN too difficult.

https://www.jetstar.com/nz/en/travel-alerts

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

When long haul international travel recommences it'll ramp up slowly, and to legacy destinations. LAX, SIN. NRT and YVR perhaps. FYI, LAX is still running ... as is HKG. I actually think TPE and ICN could come back online before many others. This is in reflection of the fact that those countries an...

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by planemanofnz
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

Given they had an onwards codeshare agreement with SkyTeam member Aerolineas Argentinas, it is not inconceivable they could also have one with LATAM, which is leaving OneWorld in a week and may eventually end up in SkyTeam, or remain outside an alliance. It'll be very interesting to see if LA keeps...

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by planemanofnz
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand Plans To Axe All Boeing 777 Crew
Replies: 66
Views: 15378

Re: Air New Zealand Plans To Axe All Boeing 777 Crew

There is so many different categories of cabin staff. Here is the breakdown of each group affected: From: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/travel/2020/04/coronavirus-air-new-zealand-plans-to-axe-all-boeing-777-cabin-crew-as-part-of-company-downsizing.html And yet I recall in Feb or Mar when someone b...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand Plans To Axe All Boeing 777 Crew
Replies: 66
Views: 15378

Re: Air New Zealand Plans To Axe All Boeing 777 Crew

I think there are some nz posters who are clearly out of touch ... I think the New Zealand government policy of effective total border closure is wrong. New Zealand had to go hard and minimize the risks - we pretty much have the lowest amount of ICU beds and ventilators per capita among all compara...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

NZ6 is right ... really shouldn’t be postponed. But keeping the project alive and open would continue to have generated significant costs, which is not feasible when the company's revenue source has all-but collapsed, and it has a range of loans and conditions to manage its exposure to. On a separa...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

Some interesting comments from 3C: Even when the alert drops to level three or two, Emeny isn’t sure whether people will be keen to fly again, especially in the close quarters of the small planes that Air Chathams uses. Add to that, he says, the loss in income most companies are suffering and the ri...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

I don't have any firm data or modelling. This. Hence re-inforcing the point that uncertainty means that the below is premature and needs context: during weaker economic times ... it's actually a good time for AIAL to invest and build for the future. IMO, too risky for the likes of AIAL to make CAPE...

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by planemanofnz
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

... acting during the downturn rather than waiting until the market has returned in 5-10 years and we in the same dilemma we were in Dec-Feb. But, you've assumed the market will return to where it was and we will have the same 'dilemnas' - all this, within 5-10 years. The impact of COVID-19 is unpr...

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by planemanofnz
Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020
Replies: 302
Views: 39402

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

zkncj wrote:
Do we think that New Zealand will re-open it’s boarders in 2020?

IMO, for the next 6 months at least, the border will be closed. After that, it's anyone's guess, but I'd imagine it would be a phased re-opening, starting with Australia to begin with.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Not surprised by VA news not returning to NZ. Wonder if this would be a chance for QF to pick up and go against NZ on the WLG - BNE route? (obviously once demand starts coming back) Perhaps. I had heard DUD - BNE was one of VA's best performing Tasman flights though, so maybe that would be more of ...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

it will recover and will exceed numbers previously seen as the global aviation industry will continue to grow. Don't wait for it to return current levels before doing anything. ... obvious points which are certain: AIAL is and will always be the primary airfreight and passenger gateway to New Zeala...

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Sylus wrote:
VA will not return to NZ after Covid-19

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/12065560 ... app-iPhone

Totally expected.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

We've been here before with the GFC. This is much, much larger than the GFC. As just one example, NZIER forecasting the hit to the economy likely to be between two and five times greater than that of the GFC. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/new-zealands-unemployment-rate-could-soar-30-d...

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by planemanofnz
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

... if VA fails to pull through? Interestingly, VA has seemingly finally decided to pull the plug on New Zealand - it seems, permanently. In an announcement to the ASX, the company said it will commence consultation on a proposal to close its New Zealand cabin crew and pilot base. It employs about ...

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by planemanofnz
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Cam Wallace of NZ has released the airline's updated schedule (30 March - 31 May) via Twitter. AKL/SYD - 3 per week. AKL/MEL/BNE - 2 per week. AKL/NAN/RAR/IUE - 1 per week AKL/HKG - 2 per week AKL/LAX - 3 per week SYD/BNE/NLK - 2 per week AKL/PVG - return services on alternate days from 2 May. Domes...

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by planemanofnz
Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

NTLDaz wrote:
That cautionary tale will likely lead to restrictions being in place longer than thought.

Totally agree - I can see this playing out for more than just four weeks.

Take care everyone - kia kaha.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

FJ Indeed - FJ dropping all international flights from this coming Tuesday until at least 31 May. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290433/fiji-airways-suspends-95-of-international-flights-from-late-march-to-may-2020/ Cheers, C. FJ are keeping NAN-SIN running so not all cut. A lot o...

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by planemanofnz
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

New Zealand is now at level 3 and will be at level 4 in 48 hours. Compulsory self isolation except essential workers. Restricted flights. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12319029&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb Would expect by...

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by planemanofnz
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Some positive, non-corona news! Earlier this week (17 March), New Plymouth opened its new terminal. Looks fantastic. Check out Instagram for some photos. https://www.instagram.com/p/B90eodZpua6/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B90qrTqBAmt/ https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120338373/sl...

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by planemanofnz
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Hopefully a one-off. Ministry of Health has mixed up airlines/routes in the contact tracing on its website, suggesting someone flew from Austria to Auckland via Doha on 17 March on flight EK448 (it should be QR920 - EK doesn't fly DOH - AKL). :sigh: https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-c...

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by planemanofnz
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

I am hearing the last EK service operates into AKL around 28th but this is not announced anywhere that I can find. Certainly not on Airlineroute. Confirmed. Emirates will drop all flights to New Zealand (AKL and CHC), from 29 March until at least 30 June. https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/emi...

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by planemanofnz
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 987
Views: 99821

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

eta unknown wrote:
TN: AKL-PPT-LAX (no PPT stopover permitted- the 2 flights are operating as normal).

Not an option. You cannot book AKL - LAX tickets on TN's website. Those flights are probably just being maintained for cargo purposes.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

This is pretty insane. NZ's AKL - LAX flight is now probably the only air service between Australasia/the Southwest Pacific and the entirety of the Americas . All Australia - US flights have stopped. HA and AC have also cut flights, and in the Pacific, FJ and TN have too. To South America, LA is cu...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Originair and Sunair suggested as being in an ok position in all of this. For Originair, "People are still travelling domestically and we anticipate that there will be an ongoing requirement for essential travel and for people to travel direct on the sectors we offer.” “In addition, as we do no...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Reading some of the comments here... leaves me wondering if others hold a very bleak outlook driven perhaps by fear of what's often in the media. Call it a "bleak outlook" if you want, but at least it's backed up by academics like those from Imperial College of London (one of the top inst...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Phil Twyford (New Zealand's Transport Minister) has told 3C "we want to see Air Chathams come through this, and we will support you to ensure this happens". http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2020/03/air-chathams-meets-minister.html The Chatham Islands Enterprise Trust has already loaned 3C $5...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

This is pretty insane. NZ's AKL - LAX flight is now probably the only air service between Australasia/the Southwest Pacific and the entirety of the Americas . All Australia - US flights have stopped. HA and AC have also cut flights, and in the Pacific, FJ and TN have too. To South America, LA is cut...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

June-July is what I keep hearing ... You asked about QR's re-start date. I think one other factor is the EU border, given QR's reliance on European connections. Even if New Zealand reopens our border by June-July, which is what you are 'hearing', and which I suggest won't happen, will the EU have r...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

... here's hoping we've instituted enough measures already to avoid a public health catastrophe. The need for conservative restrictions, for longer, is arguably more necessary in New Zealand than elsewhere. We have nearly half the intensive care bed capacity per population as Australia, and a "...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2020/

Cheers,

C.
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ZK-NBT wrote:
FJ

Indeed - FJ dropping all international flights from this coming Tuesday until at least 31 May.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2020/

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

How long do we think NZ will keep AKL-SIN open? Part of the government support was to keep this air link open. I think AKL - SIN will be one to remain open throughout. It is arguably the key link for us to Asia, Europe, Africa, India and the Middle East, and Singapore seems to be managing things we...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Where will NZ be parking most of its fleet? Just AKL and CHC?

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

What's making you say this with such confidence? Have a read of the Imperial College of London paper which is what many are saying is what has resulted in governments taking many of these measures, so quickly. ... "these policies ... will need to be maintained until large stocks of vaccine are...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

ZK-NBT wrote:
... not sure on the Chinese carriers

CZ and MU continue to fly to AKL 3x weekly each, I believe.

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

QR dropping AKL from early April. No re-start date announced. QR continuing to SYD, MEL, ADL and PER, but dropping CBR too in Australasia. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290426/qatar-airways-ns20-service-update-as-of-0700gmt-21mar20/ Cheers, C. Judging by that it’s canceled until...

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by planemanofnz
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-21mar20/

Cheers,

C.
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QR dropping AKL from early April. No re-start date announced. QR continuing to SYD, MEL, ADL and PER, but dropping CBR too in Australasia.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-21mar20/

Cheers,

C.

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by planemanofnz
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Many will struggle for years ... If a lot of the regional airlines go bankrupt, and NZ has to scale back, I think the government would step in to protect air services to some isolated/vulnerable places - namely the Chatham Islands, the West Coast of the South Island (Hokitika), and maybe Gisborne. ...

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by planemanofnz
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Prior to the COVID-19 disruption, I would have told you there was precisely zero chance of Air Chathams going into competition with Air New Zealand. Now? I’m not sure how to describe a less than zero chance, but that’s it... It'll be interesting to see if 3C survives. If it does, perhaps direct com...

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by planemanofnz
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Auckland and Wellington to Christchurch will be down to 14 return services each per week only (both down from 42) Interesting how much greater JQ's reduction on the trunk routes is compared to NZ's. On a random search in late-March, NZ is still showing about 20 flights per day from WLG to AKL. The ...

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by planemanofnz
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020
Replies: 480
Views: 41552

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

With public gathers now limited to an max of 100 people, does that mean NZ is now limited to an 100 people on an domestic A320 flight? As someone said, it doesn't affect flights. However - I wonder if it will impact how many people can be in the Koru Lounges, and how far apart seating in the lounge...

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