Interesting to see SEA not featuring in QF US expansion plans now - I wonder how the AA JV will impact on QF's codesharing with AS. Cheers, C. The previous JV applications would have killed any AS codesharing (although perhaps not interlining or single-fare-component mixed-carrier journeys). The re...Jump to post
Not AKL-DFW? How about something left field like CHC-LAX? That was my thinking as well actually as I have heard rumblings about something like that in the works for CHC. A 3-4/weekly 788 summer seasonal wouldn't be the most high risk option out there. Add the increased likelihood of AKL-LAX going y...Jump to post
Does anybody have any idea on how HU’s doing on the SZX route? I remember one Weibo user reporting the route reaching a sub-10% LF around March...... I really doubt it will ever yield profit. If they were smart, they would try to time the flight to connect with HU's SZX - Australia and New Zealand ...Jump to post
Interesting to see SEA not featuring in QF US expansion plans now - I wonder how the AA JV will impact on QF's codesharing with AS.
x1234 wrote:I see the addition of EWR & GRU in their network with the GE powered 789's. No other expansion.
A more premium 789 could also possibly open up new routes, such as EWR - AKL, given the lower weight and greater range?
Looks like they will have to find a replacement quick for WLG-MEL-SIN as they will only have 1x B777-200 left by end of march 2020. ... and there's still that tantalising question of whether they could/will shift to a non-stop 359 service to Wellington when they replace the 77E A 359 could do MEL -...Jump to post
NZ may prefer to start using smaller jets to more cities at higher frequencies. As a longer-term model. That may not work work longer term, as many of the ports are more and more slot restricted - HKG, PVG, HND - LAX also isn't easy to optimise. They can mitigate some of this by using JV partners, ...Jump to post
We're really only talking about EWR and GRU for the ULH plane being needed. But, what if NZ has a strategy to deal with that, which doesn't require getting a dedicated ULH sub-fleet? Think NZ's JVs. Could they get UA to fly their more premium 789s on EWR - AKL, and maybe SQ, CA, CX or someone else t...Jump to post
... rapid transit in Wellington. On a slightly related note, have heard a rumour that the Airport Flyer bus will be discontinued. The cost from the CBD is something like NZD 12, when you can often get an Uber for something like NZD 17-18, so it wouldn't surprise me. Also - relating to Wellington - ...Jump to post
For a country with the population New Zealand the 787 makes perfect sense. I don't know. I think there is a case for something bigger than a 787-9, as NZ has a chunky presence to quite a few slot-restricted ports, which I can't see it being able to simply expand at, through additional 787-9 frequen...Jump to post
The problem with Wellington is its runway restriction which can only be overcome by launching a 5th freedom flight from a nearby city that also has open sky agreement with Hong Kong (like SQ did with CBR and now MEL). WLG could also be done in a triangular, with CHC. Take-off is the main issue for ...Jump to post
Actually, Munda will be the route that will start AKL. The airline and country are investing heavily in tourism which is HQ’d in their Western Province. Much of the rest of the country has been devastated by forestry and mining. A Solomon Airlines route will likely start as a triangular one AKL-MUA...Jump to post
What I do think will be interesting is, down the line, whether we see NZ start to develop JVs with BR to TPE, and OZ to ICN, with BR and OZ 'topping-up' NZ capacity (like UA does on the AKL-SFO route). Agreed, and I think this is a strategically sound approach, particularly for destinations with si...Jump to post
OZ had been mentioned recently about an ICN-AKL flight, which made sense, I’m not sure it does now, maybe a codeshare with NZ, I expected the other way around. OZ has had a shortage of suitable long-haul planes, with its 359s only now coming online. OZ has also had financial issues, and scandals. N...Jump to post
... given KE’s dominance in the market. Market growth in recent years has come through the one-stop options (e.g. via China), and not through the non-stop KE option. KE is increasingly less dominant, and facing scandal after scandal. Now, more than ever, NZ is in a solid position to take on KE. Che...Jump to post
Armaghman wrote:No mention of code share with Asians?
The new direct service between Auckland and Seoul will be launched in late November with three flights per week to Seoul's Incheon International Airport from November 23 and up to five flights a week during the peak holiday period from late December to mid-February. The proposed schedule would depar...Jump to post
I don't see the Q300s going anywhere for at least another 7-8 years. In that regard, they probably won't be replaced by anything currently available. It's been 6 years already, and there are still so many with the teal scheme. If they're sticking around for another 8 years, you'd imagine they'd re-...Jump to post
Christchurch, even seasonally is also very unlikely. More likely a "seasonal" candidate for NZ on their 789s as part of the UA/NZ JV. In NZ's JV's it tends to be the foreign carrier that serves CHC - like in the NZ-SQ JV, and the NZ-CX JV - so I see SFO-CHC (or LAX-CHC) as more of a UA me...Jump to post
I'd imagine they'll want to keep the Q300s for as long as possible given the lack of alternatives out there. Unless they dump the ~50 seat market, and just keep the ATR 72's for key regional centres (like HLZ, TRG, NSN, etc). 3C or someone else could pick up the more minor ports (like GIS, HKK, TIU...Jump to post
I wonder if they would consider taking on EI on SFO - DUB, getting some of the tech contracts/traffic?
ZK-NBT wrote:I could see LAX-AKL at some point depending on which way partner NZ go with a 77W replacement, I could potentially see a seasonal UA service to top up NZ’s as part of their JV.
It’d be good to know if the 78X could uplift significant enough cargo to Asia as well as pax/bags to make it worthwhile. Hmm, the way I see it is that yes, the airline has mentioned the 78J as a possibility, but I don't think it's a realistic one for Asia because the airline has also made clear tha...Jump to post
Also, I heard today from someone who had been advised in their professional capacity that a third carrier after D7/HX will announce they are withdrawing from the New Zealand market publically very shortly. I'm not sure whom, they weren't allowed to say. Another casualty of a market marred by poor y...Jump to post
Dominion301 wrote:A JV might get approved on the basis of there being some non-NZ connecting options via US hubs for Canadians.
ZK-NBT wrote:Do they need the 78J for Asia when as said by NZ6 it is moving to frequency more ...
PMR-HLZ That is the only route in the NZ domestic network not connected to one of the hubs (AKL, WLG or CHC), right? I wonder if a) the route will last, and/or b) other non-hub routes may develop (e.g. ROT - ZQN or HLZ - DUD)? AC back to AKL I'd be interested to know whether this is the result of a...Jump to post
Rumours are circulating re EY joining Star Alliance next month with a UA sponsorship. What impact could this have on NZ and could we possibly see EY here? I'm planning a JNB trip next year so this would be amazing Interesting development. I read elsewhere on here that their Australian flights weren...Jump to post
In the case of a hard border with Brexit, could BFS and BHD see a boost in traffic as Northerners who used to go South to get cheaper fares and/or a wider variety of destinations, seek out less complication by staying/using local? Would any boost in this respect be offset by the economic downturn ar...Jump to post
With QF, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the issue that their 789 hub is at BNE, and that any SEA - Australia service would likely be via SYD? I do think NZ will beat them to the punch first. Without feed from either AS or DL that sounds like a tall order. Is there any sort of robust local demand...Jump to post
But WHY? Why would any airline take the risk?? For SQ, because the risk of its WLG service has been mitigated somewhat by: 1. The Wellington Council's subsidy 2. Routing via MEL, with large O&D Broader than that, why even take the risk with those mitigations in place? Well: 1. SQ is coming unde...Jump to post
A few questions... thoughts, those are stats showing an improvement WLGMEL, does it show us anything WLGSIN or WLGSIN->Beyond? Is this either... a) Demonstrating WLG's need for long haul travel - something I highly doubt or b) nothing other than Tasman flying Remember the time when EK, MH, TG and o...Jump to post
SQ is still at WLG - they just changed the CBR stop to a MEL one. That change improved loadings. Anything else will be dependent on a runway extension, which we'll find out more on later this year. Cheers, C. Yes significant improvements over last few months. From BITRE released a couple of days ag...Jump to post
Wondering if WEL can get service from Asia again. I remember SQ used to extend SIA-CBR to WEL. Can that be reinstated, or should we get somebody in the Pearl River Delta? SQ is still at WLG - they just changed the CBR stop to a MEL one. That change improved loadings. Anything else will be dependent...Jump to post
Seems like they tried and failed many Chinese, Russian, Central Asia, East Asia routes. What might be the cause? There are not many people in Mongolia, and of those who are there, few have enough money to fly internationally. There are not all that many visitors to Mongolia either. In terms of the ...Jump to post
An interesting carrier, and great to have a thread about them. I have wondered whether they could compete for some Europe - Asia transit traffic. The new airport at ULN (opening in August), and delivery of new MAX's definitely gives them potential (I think a MAX-8 could do ULN - FRA, but correct me ...Jump to post