Let the market decide. No more regulations. I think some area's like education, healthcare, defense proved "vunerable" to market dynamics. Basically many big FU's & government had to intervene to clean up the mess & restore fairness. While the guilty had early retirement$. And us ...Jump to post
All should be widely published per airline & aircraft type. And not by average, another trick to lie with truths.Aircraft manufacturers & airlines seem to together to hide, distract & generalize passenger reality here. Effectively against millions of individuals. What airlines advertise...Jump to post
I think 3 engines has the same advantages over a 4 hauler than a twin engine has. The location of a 3rd engine is a major constrain that proved hard to realize in a light, maintenance friendly way. I remember Airbus filled a trijet patent. A decade ago I (& Henry Lam) looked at a VLA trijet with...Jump to post
I remember airlines started to introduce 10 abreast on their 777 and told the passengers they would only loose an inch in seatwidth and wouldn’t notice. It seems most people / media / analysts absorbed the it without further questioning.The comfort ratings from their internal passenger surveys tanke...Jump to post
Many statistics to compare 737 & A320. More 737 were ordered and delivered over the last 50 years. It seems at this moment there are more A320s in service than 737s. And the A320 backlog is significantly larger too. http://homechairs.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/how-to-draw-a-simple-plane-pon...Jump to post
Seat width alone is not enough. Airlines can take media for a ride by quietly making the arm rest 0.5 inch wide or reduce aisle width to a minimum. The amount of passenger for a certain cabin width at shoulder height should be defined. As well a real leg space. "slim" Seats attacked passen...Jump to post
Usually aircraft are pretty well specied at launch. Otherwise you don't get any launching customers and buy in from the supply chain, investors, governments. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2004-04-26-Boeing-Launches-7E7-Dreamliner https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-targets-year-end-777x...Jump to post
Usually aircraft are pretty well specied at launch. Otherwise you don't get any launching customers and buy in from the supply chain, investors, governments. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2004-04-26-Boeing-Launches-7E7-Dreamliner https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-targets-year-end-777x-...Jump to post
This 2025 EIS apparently triggered some history rewriting
Yes, aircraft development takes about 7-8 years, so they started 2017.
Wasn't there a program office or something ? .. See !?
And if you don't buy that, you disrespect engineers and better proof it's not 2025.
NMA launch was shelved, no action was taken on launching, until a later time (2019). Matching the definition of "to shelve" : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/shelve Boeing said they needed more time to close the business case, before they could launch the program.Jump to post
We can now effecticely design and digitally test in parallel, 10 years ago everything was done in series. A high tech company like Boeing would have experienced this flood of data 5-10 years ago. They would now plan for it and have procedures in place. Sounds like your program office needs to clear...Jump to post
Aircraft development periods grew over the last 50 years. From ~4 to ~ 8 years. But maybe you are right. Everything has changed, development efforts imploded. Boeing can have been preparing secretly, can cut 2-3 years and EIS in 2025. Hurray! :shy: Except they have not been secret about it: Boeing ...Jump to post
Sure it would be a major engineering effort and major investment. Airbus would need to run the numbers to see how the economics of a rewinged/re-engined A310/300 making heavy use of A330 systems would work out. But I can't understand all the hysteria about the concept. The closest modern parallel h...Jump to post
NMA will have a much lower OEW (the 767-300ER is twice that of the 737), a much newer wing with significantly better aerodynamics and engines multiple generations newer and more efficient so it should prove a more effective platform than the 767 family. Even if the 797 has a fuel burn per seat that...Jump to post
Well if the NMA has an OEW of 50t, carries 200 people 2 class and has a list price of around $130mln it meets the industry benchmark! :thumbsup: And six or so years from now they might be interested in a state of the art widebody aircraft that carries 270 passengers in two class with greater range ...Jump to post
Mark my words, AS will be all over this aircraft. AS never had 757s, 767s in that category. 739/A321 is the largest they got so far. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/974/41623395212_fd59245249_b.jpg Why fixate on what they've done so far, and not consider what they might do next? If airlines want to g...Jump to post
EA CO AS wrote:Mark my words, AS will be all over this aircraft.
I just saw this picture for the first time, and couldn't help but think, "The best looking Airbus plane wasn't even designed by Airbus." That's so nice looking I don't even mind seeing the CSeries in Airbus colors (personal reasons only - nothing against Airbus). Yes it's a good looker. T...Jump to post
Yes and how many by the 767? A332? A340? Airlines don't fall for marketing non-sense, they check all their allternatives. Both the 767 and A330 were extremely successful products that opened new markets and grew commercial aviation. I see no reason to think the 797, if it achieves the goal of bring...Jump to post
If you create a good airplane, you will generate your own market opportunities. How many airport pairs were opened up by the 787?
BOMBARDIER CRJ PASSENGER TO VIP CONVERSIONS, BUSINESS AIRCRAFT CABIN https://www.modstore.aero/modifications/modificationid(28806)/Bombardier%20CRJ%20Passenger%20to%20VIP%20conversions,%20Business%20Aircraft%20Cabin https://www.modstore.aero/uploadedImages/modification/16a07aa4-d668-4466-be9c-e2ac82...Jump to post
None of this is relevant, as it would simply be a shortened A330NEO, with a simplified wing / flaps / landing gear to suit, and a new RR engine. Everything else would come from the A330NEO. I was not suggesting restarting an A310 FAL, with a 40 year old design. Those saying an A321/A322 could do th...Jump to post
By looking at A310 as a reference, it would be heavier than the 797, but also more capable. And it would have a Freight version opportunity / rest value from day 1. No doubt Airbus is reconsidering their long term strategy in this area. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7425/9844985414_5ba331ba02_b.jpg ...Jump to post
The A310 weighs an amazing 25% less then the lightest A330/340, the A330-200. OEW's - A300-600 : 89t (195k lb) - A310-300 : 79t (175k lb) - A330-200 : 120t (265k lb) http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z160/keesje_pics/A330%20wingroot_zpsysveha9g.jpg It has smaller, lighter, wings, wing-box, landing ...Jump to post
And surely Boeing will have set goals that are achievable, they have the knowledge, the skill and the experience to revolutionize the industry again. Yeah. 2027 seems the year of EIS that is more generally mentioned in the supply chain. https://leehamnews.com/2018/05/15/engines-huge-question-for-bo...Jump to post
Historically, have there been more new build freighters or conversions? I tend to think that conversions may be more but I could be wrong. Feedstock for conversions is changing a bit, new gen are coming up. By far most freighters are conversions. The new 767Fs for Fedex are unique. It worked for Bo...Jump to post
We might never know what exactly happened to Schultz.
It seems Airbus could use more women in Top Management.
I see a pattern of smart people taking a short holiday from realism, if they like the promised result too much. This program will take 7-8 years. Everybody with an even moderately flattish learning curve should know in my opinion. The 2025 promise is part of closing the business case, getting every...Jump to post
I think many people feel the PW GTF has the most future potential. PW touted the possibillities to increased thrust & BPR of the engine early on. Maybe a 84 inch, 45k lbs is doable.. Boeing doesn't like the risk but doesn't want to miss the boat either.. https://archive.is/KgojU/268f21f4162db94...Jump to post
Well lets hope they finally get this rolling! I feel another drug like rush coming up :veryhappy: Oh, then we have to believe it ! I know. Why would we give credence to a knowledgeable corporate officer instead of a journo looking for clicks? An enitirely new way of producing aircraft, game changin...Jump to post
GE Aviation chief David Joyce, 2 MONTHS AGO: "We're still wrestling with what the size of the market is," Joyce said in a media briefing. "People feel great when you launch, but shareholders don't feel great until you're successful." https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/washingto...Jump to post
Interesting won't begin to tell the tale the next 12 months if all this come true..... https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1041768368007655424 says: This time line would make for an interesting next 12 months here on a.net! :D Today has been a day of surprises -- first the NFL Patriots acquire J...Jump to post
There is another simple and efficient option. Buy no fighters. A large part of solving a problem is naming it and for practical matters the option you described is the situation that exists. In any serious military encounter even the haters know full well that the US would fill the role the German ...Jump to post
I think the germans pretty well know what they want and what they do not want. They learned a lot in the past 30 years, e.g. not to involve everyone on everything. Dassault & Airbus militairy got an initial go ahead. They came back with a "2040 proposal" As Ozair linked, German leaders...Jump to post
I think it is wise to realize guns, aircraft and weapons, the rol eof militairy in far further down the priority line than e.g. the US political-militairy-industry-media block. Buying & building the biggest bomber, tank, carrier doesn't make the proud, feel german. Flag waving is met with more e...Jump to post
I can see Merkel & Macron support a Dassault / Airbus Germany deal to bridge the Tornado end of life period, as part of the strategic cooperation. E.g 100 of the more strike optimized Rafales, joint training, shared spare poules etc. The french could compensate buying e.g hundreds of EMBT's. htt...Jump to post
One question I have is what advantage would the larger variant have over the A320? I see that capacity and range wise this would compete head-to-head. Would this ultimately replace the A320s down the line? The A320 is around 5 tons heavier than a CSeries and essentially a 1980s design, whereas the ...Jump to post
Isn't WN still bringing on used 73Gs? SWA has completed their acquisition of used 700’s and their 700 count will be 513 with 511 now in service with the two not in service being the last used one which has been completed for over 2 months but not yet put into service and the aircraft that had the u...Jump to post
Wut? ( ref: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=analist ) Yes, that can be a personal reason to leave. Specially if they even didn't apologized after. Maybe, but the optics don’t look good (not just to enthusiasts, but to the airlines as well) and now they have to build a relationship w...Jump to post
https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F168043%2Fsouthwest.png&h=630&w=1200&op=resize Honestly the 737-8 will be with SW for decades. But getting in hundreds of 737-7's nobody buys, while a 6t lighter, quieter, cheaper, local product is availa...Jump to post
Revelation wrote:keesje wrote:You always have to be careful, sometimes it is personal & few analists apologize later on.
Wut? ( ref: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=analist )
I wonder at what rate DL will get them over the next 2 years. 20, 30 total?
Schulz decided to leave the company for personal reasons But Schulz’s previous position as head of Rolls-Royce civil engines did not always guarantee him a sympathetic hearing from airlines currently suffering problems with Rolls engines on Boeing and Airbus jets, according to multiple aircraft mar...Jump to post
Airbus sold over 15000 WBs in this segment, A300s, A310s and A330s, depending where you draw a line I don’t know what type of line gets you that number... 1500, typo. Airbus sold 800 A330/310 and 1400 A330. But many are/were used for cargo / long haul, many converted, so 1500 seems a reasonable gue...Jump to post