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by keesje
Sun May 16, 2021 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Boeing has been playing with 7W for at least 15 years. At least 20 years. The fact no airline, engine OE or stakeholder committed to, no doubt endless discussions, presentations and proposals for all those years, should have been a signal 7 might not be brilliant. http://www.patentbuddy.com/Patent/...

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by keesje
Sat May 15, 2021 10:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Wouldn’t an A322 suffer from the same operational issues as a 757-300. How long exactly can you make a single aisle before it actually does not make sense. I’m genuinely just curious Probably not. It doesn't seems like they would stretch A322 over 50m. Currently A321 is around 44.51m. The next stre...

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by keesje
Tue May 11, 2021 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boutique Air PC-12 loses door during takeoff roll from MSP
Replies: 32
Views: 6515

Re: Boutique Air PC-12 loses door during takeoff roll from MSP

They even making advertising on it https://www.boutiqueair.com/system/page_images/images/000/000/019/original/comfort.png?1431695105 https://www.boutiqueair.com/p/our-aircraft "Avoid the loud noises of commercial aircraft, arrive at your destination well-rested." https://quincy-network.s3....

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by keesje
Mon May 10, 2021 8:10 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

The German parliament are different party coalitions with different priorities and majority's. they aren't driven by a need to spend a huge cold war budget to keep up millions of jobs and local companies without big enemies. This isn't 1997 anymore. The Russian government is aggressive, and the Ger...

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by keesje
Mon May 10, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

I think the Bundestag has little options. There is no EuropeFirst alternative. I can see P8 for the transatlantic mission and CN295/ATR for less demanding missions. More info on the P-3C upgrage drama: https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2020/06/17/germany-halts-p-3-orion-mission-systems...

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by keesje
Sat May 08, 2021 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 62
Views: 10371

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

Anyone happen to know if there are any performance upgrades (if any) by forgoing the cargo loading system on these 320s? It seems like you could theoretically solve some of the issue of not having enough storage space by bulk loading bags, and at the same time saving weight from the cargo loading s...

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by keesje
Thu May 06, 2021 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350F. Airbus looking to launch: Looking for customers
Replies: 605
Views: 78623

Re: A350F. Airbus looking to launch: Looking for customers

So back to the Opening Post. Airbus needs at least 50 orders to launch. As the new built freighter market is much smaller than the passenger models, so expecting orders from from airline will be in the 10 or less number. So which 5 airlines are ready to order 10 freighters each. UPS passed on addin...

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by keesje
Thu May 06, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mitsubishi SpaceJet — Development & Production Thread
Replies: 720
Views: 144695

Re: Mitsubishi SpaceJet — Development & Production Thread

Mitsu sells the program to Airbus for $1. The A120 is born. Boom. The smallest version is worth saving of the MRJ. There needs to be a scope compliant RJ that is efficient. IMHO, the relative variable costs of a RJ vs. A223, MAX, or NEO are too high. ULCCs, such as Allegiant, Breeze, Frontier, and ...

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by keesje
Thu May 06, 2021 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 62
Views: 10371

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

So an XLR without an ACT will fly around 4140NM, but have around 400kg lower empty weight/ more payload. This is completely wrong. The 4,700nm brochure figure is with the ACT approximately two thirds full. The XLR without an ACT has a range of 4,350nm. With the ACT fully filled the range is 4,900nm...

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by keesje
Thu May 06, 2021 11:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 62
Views: 10371

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

Anything published on what the catalogue range without the optional ACT would be? I assume similar to the LR with 3 ACT, but providing additional payload. Airbus talks about 12,900 l additional fuel. To my information the center tank takes the same amount as 3 normal ACT, one ACT good for 2,990l. S...

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by keesje
Thu May 06, 2021 9:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 62
Views: 10371

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

Article about the safety concerns raised by Boeing on the vunerability of the new rear tank for outside fire. https://thekaplanianreport.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/airbus-rear-tank-diagram.jpg?w=397&h=518 https://kaplanianreport.com/ The more skilled people that take a look at new aircraft desi...

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by keesje
Wed May 05, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

For everyday patrol, you don't need the 18 hrs flight time. That would be too much for the crew. bt The P-3C in operation Atalanta off Somalia flew missions up to 14h, I was told. They also said that such missions were very taxing on the crew, very difficult to stay focused towards the end of the f...

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by keesje
Wed May 05, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 62
Views: 10371

Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

It seems the building blocks for the XLR are being completed. https://onemileatatime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Frontier-A321XLR.jpg source : https://onemileatatime.com/frontier-a321xlr/ This week the first rear center tank, or RCT, was handed over by Premium Aerotec to Airbus. https://simplefly...

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by keesje
Wed May 05, 2021 10:08 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

Keesje, Good chart. The 18 and 20 hrs endurance are impressive. Seems to me though having that endurance that may be used maybe once or twice in ten years may be another form of overdesigning. bt Not when I was there (early nineties). We did lots of missions 2-3 hours from home. Transits at 400 kts...

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by keesje
Tue May 04, 2021 5:52 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

Mediterranean kind of EU and NATO operations, For migrant patrol, the P-8 would be overkill. But consider current US P-8 operations. They fly from Italy to the coast of Syria or to Crimea. Typical flight time is 2-3 hrs there, do their snooping, then 2-3 hrs back. That's 5-6 hrs transition time for...

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by keesje
Tue May 04, 2021 3:32 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 206
Views: 17225

Re: Germany Future MPA Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

I think the Germans have little real choices. The props on offer don't provide the endurance, capabilities for Atlantic ASW kind of missions. But to be honest, neither do the P8 or a A320 based MPA. Not to the level the Atlantique, Orion can do. The 737 and A320 are excellent at doing 2-3 hour fligh...

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by keesje
Sun May 02, 2021 6:55 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.
Replies: 27
Views: 4799

Re: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.

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A higher gross weight 787 would be a significant investment. Missing the 77W replacement cycle might be even more costly.

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by keesje
Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 18734

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

Boeing is not going to make money on the MAX, 787, or 777X. This is their product lineup. They are highly financialized company that used program accounting, thus they pocketed 'profits' early on. I'm still waiting to read that deferred production costs are just an accounting exercise and that all ...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 18734

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

It would be interesting to do a projection for the next 20 years. Based on current backlogs, further orders based on replacements, growth. The launch, development and ramp up of a new aircraft (10 yrs?) and a response by Airbus a few years later.

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by keesje
Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:39 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030
Replies: 156
Views: 17902

Re: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030

There is one detail that eliminated the P-1 from the Navy contract. The forward bomb bay prevent it from fielding the AAS radar. Not sure about how much extra floor space available on the P-1, but when the P-8A was selected there was extra floor space available for future growth much of which was t...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

I think a new 180-250 seat PW1137 powered A322NEO would make Boeing abandon the NMA businesss case. And launch an NSA to regain parity in the 150-200 seat NB segment, the bulk of the market. Probably a reason Airbus stays quiet on an XLR based A322. A 60+% market share, 70+% revenue share is way bet...

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by keesje
Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates wants talks on 777x
Replies: 28
Views: 7239

Re: Emirates wants talks on 777x

This quote was informative. It seems like the FAA is really cracking down and finally doing their job. "Boeing build very good aeroplanes. They design very good aeroplanes I don't want to cast any doubt on that at all. It's simply how they are built and under what conditions they are now going...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

Didn't see this post earlier, DenverTed, so apologies for the late response. The A321XLR carries the weight of the Rear Centre tank, which is said to be the same as an ACT, or about 550kg, plus another 150kg of additional strengthening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320neo_family#A321XLR So...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

Back to the OP topic, how will Airbus response to Boeing projects? I think the initiative is at Airbus, because I feel they can "force" Boeing into a new NB after all. Airbus has refrained from launching an aircraft carriers have been asking fo for a long timer: an evolutionary growth vers...

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by keesje
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

Airbus didn't put a new wing on the A321NEO/LR/XLR, just modified and sold 3000. That is an indication a new wing isn't needed up to 101t. The required fuel is taken care of outside the wing. And it saves a lot of time and money. Also for an 101t A322NEO, that could have LR like range in a lower den...

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by keesje
Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

I think an A322 would mainly be used as a +24 seats, 249 seat people mover. An A321NEO can officially carry 240 seats, but that is not realistically over longer ranges (28 inch pitch, 3 lav's, hardly galley?). You need lavatories, a bit of knee space and catering to do longer flights. 249 Seats woul...

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by keesje
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

How much heavier is the empty weight of an A321xlr versus the A321neo? About 2t? Will the A322 be another 2t heavier? If the xlr takes 18t out to 4700nm, then the NMA will be designed to take 22t out to 5000nm, and the Airbus response will be to build a plane that takes 24t out to 5300nm, or someth...

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by keesje
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

How much heavier is the empty weight of an A321xlr versus the A321neo? About 2t? Will the A322 be another 2t heavier? If the xlr takes 18t out to 4700nm, then the NMA will be designed to take 22t out to 5000nm, and the Airbus response will be to build a plane that takes 24t out to 5300nm, or someth...

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by keesje
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21196

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

Assuming NMA-5 is a 2-3-2 with a little bit more capacity than an A322 and more range - call it 5,000 NM at about 224 31" seats and they can reuse the cross section for NSA - what should Airbus do? They could simply stretch the A321XLR to A322 (plus 3 rows) - Gaining capacity but as Keesje cal...

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by keesje
Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I think for competing with the A321/ a A322, Boeing should send out RFI's for a 35-40k lbs engine, not for a 50k lbs engine. If it's bigger, it costs and burns more.

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by keesje
Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I think there are some evolutionary enhancements Boeing could use to regain market preference. Shelving transatlantic, technology miracles, twin aisle and 280 seat ambitions would be part of that. Because apparently the airlines are not really asking for that. Maybe a separate topic. So Rev doesn't ...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

What announcement would make executives in Toulouse and Hamburg sit up straight, pay attention and make calls? Probably not another $15B MoM defibrillation.

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:51 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030
Replies: 156
Views: 17902

Re: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030

The P-1 is a dedicated MPA and seems to have the superior specs, that come with a purposely developed aircraft. Putting your faith with Japan is something apparently avoided so far by all nations. What's the problem with buying a Japanese aircraft? Support, training, language, manuals, parts, broad...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United adding seatback IFE - AVOD to older narrow body aircraft
Replies: 137
Views: 19814

Re: United adding seatback IFE - AVOD to older narrow body aircraft

An inspiring movie, a little knee & shoulder space, a decent meal and I don't care how old the aircraft is (A340/A380 stability & cabin quietness are a boon)

In front it doesn't matter that much, you have enough space for laptop/ tablet and are pampered / sleeping anyway.

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Having different wings, ranges also means, wing boxes, controls, systems, landing gears and engines to be really competitive. https://live.staticflickr.com/4104/35555869622_824376dc35_z.jpg source: keesje If you do all that, going for a real optimum fuselage isn't that big of an extra step/investmen...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I would be carefull putting all my eggs in the innovation basket in this industry. Breakthroughs, gamechangers, paradigm changes and amazing technology enablers seldom reach mass production. Often greenwashing, justifications play a role. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DowitrCzH-4/WcpsKSc4J1I/AA...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Does Boeing need a mid-range plane to beat the XLR flying transAtlantic, or does it need to beat the A322 flying Hawaii, premium transcon / JetBlue MInt, hub to hub, and Spirit and Frontier with 250 passengers? I would think a design that can do both effectively & competitively. Hopefully even ...

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by keesje
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

flipdewaf wrote:
It applies to everything, even in..
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We can all dream...
Fred

:goodvibes: Food for thought on a sunny friday afternoon.

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by keesje
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

If bypass ratio was everything, Southwest would have ordered the A220 like you projected in countless threads and posts, and MAX7 would not be built. "Though Southwest took a hard look at the Airbus A220, which would have delivered better economics per trip, the Boeing discounts and compensati...

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by keesje
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I've been vaguely enthusiastic about a 767 re-engine for at least a decade. The smaller 748 GENX seemed a perfect match. GE even promoted it, many Farnboroughs back in time. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h2-uToUYxIo/Wjb7YidzrjI/AAAAAAAADSY/Nrk4tafc0PYqKXZc1qkNLSg3BaZqchltgCLcBGAs/s1600/Boeing%...

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by keesje
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

A NMA OEW of 72t is an ambitious target, if it was much lighter Boeing would have specified lower thrust engines. I would expect MTOW has a much greater impact in gauging engine thrust than OEW. Of course, together with other performance requirements. But usually OEW and MTOW are linear related, fe...

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by keesje
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Morrisond, you seem a bit overly optimistic too me :yes: Yet according to you when you rewing, new gear and presumably new engine on an existing fuselage - Say a 321/322 rewing you say it will only cost a few billion. No way, I never said/ thought that. A new wing changes the total dynamics and perf...

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by keesje
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

A NMA OEW of 72t is an ambitious target, if it was much lighter Boeing would have specified lower thrust engines. Plus, the basic design is a basis for significant larger, more capable variants up to 300 seats. That usually doesn't make the short version very light (Ref. A358. 788, 77LR, 737-7, A319...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Even an A322, if you put a long haul 3 class cabin in it, would be able to do transatlantic. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bcgICdFifv0/WVutthMVAPI/AAAAAAAABLg/mNZW4I7VU78eVVXsfOp0ahqwPaqqiRthgCLcBGAs/s1600/Airbus%2BA322%2BXR%2BKeesje%2BMoM%2BNMA%2BBoeing.jpg But regional/ domestic 250 seats, c...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Even an A322, if you put a long haul 3 class cabin in it, would be able to do transatlantic. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bcgICdFifv0/WVutthMVAPI/AAAAAAAABLg/mNZW4I7VU78eVVXsfOp0ahqwPaqqiRthgCLcBGAs/s1600/Airbus%2BA322%2BXR%2BKeesje%2BMoM%2BNMA%2BBoeing.jpg But regional/ domestic 250 seats, co...

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by keesje
Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030
Replies: 156
Views: 17902

Re: European Multirole MPA Replacement, C-500 Beagle Concept >2030

bikerthai wrote:
One thing that the P-8 or the A320 MMA has that the grown crew would appreciate over the P-3 is the waste removal procedure :ill: :yuck:
bt


P-3C.. :crazy: :yuck: it made sure everybody travelled light..

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by keesje
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

If Airbus launches a "cheap" same wing A322NEO, based on the 101t A321XLR, that can easily cover Europe, US mainland and China with 250 passengers, what will be left of the MoM/NMA projections? If AA, DL, UA order 100 Mobile, Pratt powered A322s each and Airbus leaves the 2023 Paris Airsh...

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by keesje
Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

They have bet the house with MAX. If there ever was a time to walk away from a product we just saw it, yet what we saw was Boeing cling even tighter to it, bind their future even more to getting the last penny out of the MAX product. Same with customers: it was the easiest time ever to decide to pa...

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by keesje
Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

Customers buy tons of A321neos. A321neo is a 757 sized aircraft which is what Boeing said it will be. But it has to offer more than that if you want people to wait 8 years People bought lots of A321NEO's and lots of 737-8s. But even more A320NEO's. Medium size range-capacity, as defined for NMA, se...

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by keesje
Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1753
Views: 179148

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

So Boeing will be better developing a familiy of aircraft that can outshine everything else in the domestic markets 150-250 seats and can offer TATL range if necessary. A future Product just has to have more than 1000 built to be valiable and I do not think a MOM aircraft can do that. :checkmark: :...

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