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by ILNFlyer
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 62
Views: 9534

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

cledaybuck wrote:
No. Only paper derates, etc.


Why isn't removing fuel tanks from the wings a viable option to create a shorter range, lighter winged aircraft at the time the aircraft is ordered? Is such an option plausible??

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mobile (AL) releases master plan for Brookley site downtown airport
Replies: 26
Views: 3973

Re: Mobile (AL) releases master plan for Brookley site downtown airport

Mobile's real problem is PNS less than 60 miles with low fares thanks to WN. David How vacationy is Mobile? Get Allegiant in there! We actually have quite a bit to offer. As far as mardi gras, no its not as big as NO, but it is the birthplace of mardi gras in the US. We also have the Carnival Sensa...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 62
Views: 9534

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

It's likely better just "abuse" a -8.

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 87
Views: 12418

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

757 was going to be more closer to a straight 727 replacement, but the launch customers EA and BA convinced them to add more capabilities. For instance EA wanted to get a larger number of passengers off the short runways at LGA and still have range to do Florida runs. Read the 757 wikipedia page fo...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will N757A retire?
Replies: 9
Views: 3350

Re: When will N757A retire?

Anyone know what it's testing right now? Seems to have mostly F-22 bits on it still, but I don't know how much testing F-22 equipment needs at this point. The F-22 is a constantly evolving type, as it was designed to do. There are plenty of software and hardware upgrades to the type that are coming...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 152
Views: 22344

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

What if, for example, Boeing had spent money on making the 747 a twin instead of going the way they did? Maybe it would have had to be smaller than the 744 if need be? Assuming all went well, Boeing would still be maintaining two programs, 747 and 777. By growing the 777 to include your suggested s...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 615
Views: 110404

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

So a re-engined 767-400? #530 spells it all out: My understanding is that the The 767-400 can be re-engined relatively cheaply using the GE 748 engines (a derivative of the GE 787 engines) with some strength modifications to the wing. However, my understanding is also that while that will work for ...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13958

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

I'm not sure anyone would want to fly 11 hours on a narrowbody. No, that's just (for the millionth time) one person projecting his own preferences onto anyone else. People have been flying longhauls in narrowbodies for decades, and they'll likely be doing it decades from now. Can we please give thi...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 961
Views: 110964

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Does anyone know what the future holds for ILN once CVG opens? I remember hearing there was the possibility of it being used as a reliever to CVG and/or a night sort. One of my coworkers recently took a job as a sort supervisor of some kind at ILN with 90 people under her and I can't imagine she'd ...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG
Replies: 93
Views: 29283

Re: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG

Austin787 wrote:
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I'm interested in learning what was in the cargo hold. Wouldn't be surprising if there were lithium batteries.


Me too, and being loaded in China no less.

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Inching towards a collapse of the leasing industry
Replies: 54
Views: 14360

Re: Inching towards a collapse of the leasing industry

On the cargo side, our leasing business is doing just fine. It would appear to be the bright spot....for the time being.

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by ILNFlyer
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet
Replies: 284
Views: 75336

Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet

CNN had an article which indicated the entire fleet was to be retired immediately with little thought to their return: "It is with great sadness that we can confirm we are proposing to retire our entire 747 fleet with immediate effect," British Airways, the world's biggest operator of the ...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program
Replies: 18
Views: 2029

Re: ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program

I was thinking there might be a better market for the aircraft in SE Asia or Africa.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program
Replies: 18
Views: 2029

Re: ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program

Not to stir the pot here but does anyone think we could see airlines starting their own cargo operation. Say southwest converting some of their 737s into freighters or buying a few freighters to have some diversified revenue during this downturn? Airlines may like the fact it is certified for multi...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program
Replies: 18
Views: 2029

ATSG’s PEMCO Receives FAA Approval for its Boeing 737-700 FlexCombi Conversion Program

Exciting news. TAMPA, Fla. – July 15, 2020 – Air Transport Services Group, Inc. (NASDAQ:ATSG) announced today that the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has approved its Passenger-to-FlexCombi™ conversion program for the Boeing 737-700 Next Generation aircraft. ATSG said the FAA issued a Suppleme...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787
Replies: 174
Views: 33922

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

The 737 and 747 programs both started slowly and look where they ended up. The 777X will be a success. 309 orders the 777X has are more than the two programs I mentioned had when they entered production. The 747-100 was launched with an order for 25 from Pan Am. The 737 with an order for 30 from Luf...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market
Replies: 66
Views: 19314

Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

I have started a Go Fund Me page.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did people really fly all the way on flights like this?
Replies: 119
Views: 29263

Re: Did people really fly all the way on flights like this?

Looking at some old flight schedules, I am seeing some incredible multi-stop flights on routes that spanned the far corners of the globe. For example.... I am looking at an OAG from 1980 and I am seeing a 5-stop Swissair flight from Geneva to Tokyo with en route stops in Zurich, Athens, Bombay, Ban...

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2020
Replies: 409
Views: 51632

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Dayton enplanements are down 53% so far this year. Year-to-date passenger enplanements at the Dayton airport reached 169,954 as of May 2020, the most recent numbers made available. That represents a 52.7% drop from the 359,117 passenger enplanements as of May 2019. https://www.daytondailynews.com/bu...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda A330 runs off runway
Replies: 17
Views: 6904

Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Calling Joe Patroni............

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2020
Replies: 409
Views: 51632

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

DL updates (using 8/3/20 given it looks like the timetable has updated based upon the reappearance of DAY-ATL) CMH: ATL- 6x (4 717, 2 738). DTW- 5x (4 E70/75, 1 CR9) LGA- 2x (E70/75) MSP- 4x (CR9) SLC, LAX, SEA, JFK, RDU, BOS still suspended. DAY: ATL returns 3x/day (CR9) DTW 3x (CRJ) MSP still sus...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 297
Views: 51433

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

100 more Max orders cancelled by Norwegian. BOC Aviation also cancelled 30 orders https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boc-aviation-boeing-orders/hong-kongs-boc-aviation-cancels-30-boeing-737-max-aircraft-orders-idUSKBN2412PB#:~:text=June%2030%20%28Reuters%29%20%2D%20Hong,737%20MAX%20aircrafts%2C%20it...

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 961
Views: 110964

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Is there a current list of ATSG birds that are in TLV for conversion work?

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by ILNFlyer
Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Emirates to decommission 40% of A380 fleet
Replies: 504
Views: 90570

Re: Emirates Retires First A380

https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/emi ... 65.article
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There was a story today on Flightglobal that EK is returning an A-380 to service with flights to Europe.
https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/emi ... 65.article

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: large single aisle aircraft
Replies: 36
Views: 4324

Re: large single aisle aircraft

x1234 wrote:
The 757-300 is the single aisle plane WHEN FULL has the least CASM (cost per available seat mile). I personally feel Boeing should re-engine the 757.


....not to mention the longest enplaning and deplaning time in the history of aviation.

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: More 'Active' DC-8s than A380s
Replies: 22
Views: 6764

Re: More 'Active' DC-8s than A380s

Just goes to show what an odd set of circumstances we find ourselves in these days.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar CEO: no new Airbus or Boeing deliveries until 2022
Replies: 103
Views: 17858

Re: Qatar CEO: no new Airbus or Boeing deliveries until 2022

Revelation wrote:
This could get ugly. Both sides have legal protections. QR needs ongoing support from A&B to keep their current fleet running. AAB should just work this out in private, but he's AAB, sigh.


Not a good idea to berate your suppliers. Spare parts can become scarce, but only to you.

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 250
Views: 45785

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

ATSG could have some possible interest....if the price is right.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 58825

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

Very sad to see the line go, but that's business. If they are not making money on the frames, they have to close the line. I too believe we will see the emergence of the 777x-F

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by ILNFlyer
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end
Replies: 145
Views: 36102

Re: Boeing to close 777x and 787 order before month-end

The "777X-a-Thon" is on right now for airlines ramping up the recovery curve. I bet there are some real sweetheart deals being offered by Boeing to new customers, "but for a limited time only!" Heck, there is almost-"Zero Percent Financing (to well-qualified customers)"...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?
Replies: 22
Views: 3163

Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?

With todays announcement, it makes one wonder.....they hold so many stock warrants on ATSG already, and with this new lease agreement they hold even more. Here is the press release: Latest leasing commitments would bring the number of Boeing 767 aircraft that ATSG leases to Amazon to 31 by the end o...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Officially Retires the 767
Replies: 68
Views: 13777

Re: Air Canada Officially Retires the 767

With demand for 767s through the roof, at least they’ll continue flying most likely The AC 767’s are pretty old, so I doubt that most planes will continue flying. The demand for 767 will most likely be lower because the economic downturn. They’re buying up practically everything to convert. Demand ...

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 961
Views: 110964

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

WILMINGTON, Ohio -- June 4, 2020 -- Air Transport Services Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATSG), the leading provider of medium wide-body aircraft leasing, air transportation and related services, today announced an agreement to lease twelve additional Boeing 767-300 converted freighter aircraft to Amazon.co...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Midwest wins lawsuit against Elite, continues comeback plans
Replies: 23
Views: 4147

Re: Midwest wins lawsuit against Elite, continues comeback plans

fat chance in the current environment.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed May 27, 2020 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.
Replies: 41
Views: 10134

Re: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.

That's got to be a first.

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by ILNFlyer
Wed May 27, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2020
Replies: 409
Views: 51632

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Drove by Wilmington today. There is a legion of DL 767 parked there along with some smaller aircraft, usual ATI suspects, the Patriots 767, and an ANA 767. Lots of cargo too obviously. There are 21 767's from Delta and 16 717's here. They have been prepared for lengthy storage. In addition, Amazon ...

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by ILNFlyer
Wed May 27, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 58825

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

The article states there is an internal tussle on whether to continue 747 production or not. That would mean that production and the program are alive at this point. Whether or not to proceed with anything past the UPS order is the discussion. To say it is dead is incorrect. The program is alive bu...

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by ILNFlyer
Tue May 19, 2020 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will the COVID 19 upheaval result in a return to more regulated flying in the US?
Replies: 2
Views: 394

Will the COVID 19 upheaval result in a return to more regulated flying in the US?

What increases in regulations will the airlines have to face, if any, after the upheavals that the COVID 19 virus has turned the industry upside down? Will we see a return to increased oversight?

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by ILNFlyer
Mon May 18, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Business & Finance Discussion
Replies: 354
Views: 65593

Re: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK

Revelation wrote:
In other words, Boeing's CEO will be shown to have been correct.


Could even go chapter 13.

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by ILNFlyer
Mon May 18, 2020 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117411

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Super sad to see the 777 leave. Hope (but not holding my breath) the -200LR's find a new home. Range isn't the Problem, the A350 can do everything an 77E can do with ease. The 77L .... not out of JNB and not with cargo on top of passengers. Aside of doing it with a lot less fuel, even an A351 would...

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by ILNFlyer
Fri May 08, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin
Replies: 97
Views: 25331

Re: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin

Suicide by aircraft? I can think of easier ways.

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)
Replies: 47
Views: 5233

Re: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)

While the size of the aircraft is impressive, I have never been fond of the looks of the aircraft.

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by ILNFlyer
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26758

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

All airlines are going to be rethinking their orders now. Many wont see post-covid19 traffic for 3-4 years. I think all wide body orders are classified as "soft" right now. We may see quite a bit of re-shuffling of orders for some time.

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by ILNFlyer
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design
Replies: 113
Views: 16954

Re: Aerion moves forward with supersonic AS2 for 2024, unveils new final design

means business case reduced even further, if not eliminated... Hate to say it, but we were probably there before this proposal was ever made. No aircraft, no matter how fast, will ever challenge the speed of an electronic signal. Concorde survived because that wasn't even a factor in the '70s and '...

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1433
Views: 274619

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

So are frames 1642, 1647, 1651 and 1656 white tails?

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Odd CAB routes
Replies: 27
Views: 2633

Re: Odd CAB routes

I recall flying Braniff (original Braniff) DFW-MCI-DSM-MSP. The equipment was always a 727.

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 961
Views: 110964

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

wjcandee wrote:
And for those who follow the goings-on at ILN, now that a bunch of DL 767s are parked there, there will be a number of DL 717s coming over the next several days.


Looks like a shopping bonanza for CAM as many of these birds face the prospect of retirement.

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by ILNFlyer
Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 961
Views: 110964

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I’d be interested in knowing the board’s thoughts on whether Amazon will be interested in acquiring any of the newly available (retired) 757s? Benefits include, access to a more capable narrow body, fleet similarity with the 76, and a proven reliable operator in ATI. Cons include, higher conversion...

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by ILNFlyer
Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France A330 involved in a shooting
Replies: 29
Views: 16137

Re: Air France A330 involved in a shooting

Before you know it, the pilots will be sitting in bathtubs made of kevlar.

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