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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Concorde time spent at max thrust with full reheat
Replies: 25
Views: 1340

Re: Concorde time spent at max thrust with full reheat

I suspect going through M=1.0 would still require an afterburner. I don't think any plane today can accelerate supersonic on turbojet/turbofan with no afterburn. Supersonic cruise without an afterburner is the general goal. Most modern fighter jets can accelerate to supersonic speeds without afterb...

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:35 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Updated: US supreme court overturns abortion rights, upending Roe vs. Wade
Replies: 969
Views: 35545

Re: Supreme Court is preparing to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

bpatus297 wrote:
No, nothing in my body is even remotely close to a fetus.

Unless you're sterile, your body contains thousands if not millions of reproductive cells, all of which have the potential to grow into a fetus when given the right environment.

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Updated: US supreme court overturns abortion rights, upending Roe vs. Wade
Replies: 969
Views: 35545

Re: Supreme Court is preparing to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

However, rape and incest aside, the women had a part in the actions that made the fetus. I don't know what to say other than mother nature is cruel. But again, it's not like people don't know you can get pregnant from sex. See, this is the kind of argument that shows that it's not about the fetus b...

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Updated: US supreme court overturns abortion rights, upending Roe vs. Wade
Replies: 969
Views: 35545

Re: Supreme Court is preparing to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

This just pushed the issue back to the states. I think a women and black man voted for this too. And several states have already stated that, by God, they will ban such infidel acts. The fact that some women are in favor of this act doesn't change that it fundamentally opresses women. For any reaso...

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: SCOTUS Strikes Down NY Gun Law
Replies: 8
Views: 656

Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down NY Gun Law

An odd choice. With virtually the same arguments, we get one case where the federal constitution overrules the states, and another where the states may do as they please. We are now in the weird situation where the right of poor people to firearms is considered essential, while the right of poor peo...

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:47 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Monkeypox outbreak
Replies: 36
Views: 3262

Re: Monkeypox outbreak

WHO holds emergency meeting and will consider declaring Monkeypox a "public health emergency of international concern." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-world-health-organization-monkeypox-global-health-emergency/ Why wasn't it before now? I'm sure many in certain African countries are wo...

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by mxaxai
Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Malfunctioning Russian SAM captured from 3 different angles: https://twitter.com/PierreDBorrelli/status/1540186078023487489 Missile made a sharp turn immediately after launch and hit the ground somewhat close to the launcher. Judging from the smoke trails, this was the 3rd missile launched in quick ...

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by mxaxai
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue's London Heathrow Slots Now Permanent (freebie value?)
Replies: 79
Views: 10592

Re: JetBlue's London Heathrow Slots Now Permanent (freebie value?)

The politics of this is worrying. When the Ukraine war is settled it likely will involve side negotiations with the EU, UK and US. It is in their interest to entice Russia into some sort of settlement. What settlement are you expecting? Relationships between Russia and the West will remain sour for...

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by mxaxai
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue's London Heathrow Slots Now Permanent (freebie value?)
Replies: 79
Views: 10592

Re: JetBlue's London Heathrow Slots Now Permanent (freebie value?)

You won’t see a dollar amount publicized because of the current environment and the fact that it is a former Aeroflot slot that is being ceded because SU can no longer fly to London due to sanctions/overflight restrictions. JetBlue doesn’t want to give impression they are giving money to SU, LHR do...

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by mxaxai
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Monkeypox outbreak
Replies: 36
Views: 3262

Re: Monkeypox outbreak

LabQuest wrote:
Who's at risk for this?

People who have regular close body contact with different other people. The most common way of transmission seems to be sexual activities but any physical contact can suffice, e. g. between friends, family members or patients and medical staff.

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by mxaxai
Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:51 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 103531

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

First CH-47F could be delivered as early as 2026 if the contract is signed by Q1 2023, says Boeing. All German Chinooks are planned to be variant F, block II, probably the same the US Army is getting. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/31389-germany-first-chinook-deliveries General maintenance will ...

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by mxaxai
Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022
Replies: 241
Views: 52085

Re: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022

Per Tim Clark at the ILA air show in Berlin today, Emirates is planning to return their entire A380 fleet to service ASAP. Crew training is underway but remains a bottleneck. https://www.handelsblatt.com/dpa/wirtschaft-emirates-a380-schnell-wieder-in-die-luft-bringen-ber-im-fokus/28444988.html [Germ...

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by mxaxai
Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages
Replies: 52
Views: 3354

Re: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages

Yes, the private sector aims for efficiency by attempting to match production capacity to demand. Are you suggesting that manufacturers build extra idle factories as a contingency plan if one goes down? They had better build it near an existing facility, or how would they staff it? I suppose govern...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages
Replies: 52
Views: 3354

Re: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages

So the reason why there was a shortage in the first place was......and how did the government let it get to a shortage before they acted. If the nation of the USA was in a real formula shortage a couple C-17's would not be enough, one would have expected to see trailer trucks crossing the borders o...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages
Replies: 52
Views: 3354

Re: The Coming Global Debt Storm & Global Food Shortages

I am a supporter of smaller government, the private sector has always been more efficient, there are ups and downs, and if governments pay more attention to protective rule / regulations / laws the system would work much better. The tear down of financial pillars in the early 2000's generated lots ...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Gasoline prices, it hurts.
Replies: 625
Views: 39048

Re: Gasoline prices, it hurts.

There’s 400 million petroleum powered vehicles in the US, using petroleum isn’t going away any time soon, certainly not in the lifetime of more refineries—not before 2060. Realistically, petroleum is here to stay for a very long time. It's not going away but the industry is expected to start shrink...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:36 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Gasoline prices, it hurts.
Replies: 625
Views: 39048

Re: Gasoline prices, it hurts.

While first-world countries complain about price hikes for fuel and food that leave less money to spend on other products, less wealthy countries like Sri Lanka, Nigeria and Egypt are facing massive shortages. Sri Lanka only has enough fuel for about five more days, minister says Sri Lanka's fuel st...

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by mxaxai
Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 495
Views: 151251

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Agreed - I was not impressed with our DEN-MUC / FRA-DEN this month in economy. The A359 hard product was good, but food was tasteless pasta as the only option with small portions, and the buy-on-board snack wasn't even available on the FRA-DEN flight yesterday. It's not just LH, the catering indust...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:02 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 56
Views: 9051

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

Military deals - especially in this area of the world - are almost always linked to other agreements. So ordering from several countries gives access to different packages. In this case, the sale of Egyptian LNG to Italy may have played a role. In other cases, e. g. Ukraine some years ago, military ...

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by mxaxai
Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:16 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Effectiveness of simple drones against tanks, targets, long term consequences
Replies: 17
Views: 1818

Re: Effectiveness of simple drones against tanks, targets, long term consequences

Commercial drones are easily jammed as they usually use WiFi bands and aren't designed to evade jamming. GPS jammers can also help disorient the drone. Both are available commercially. I suspect that Russia, after the initial suprise, has looked at their options and started deploying some countermea...

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by mxaxai
Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:46 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 499
Views: 49260

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacifi ... e-contract

Australia will pay US$ 584 million to formally cancel the French contract, resulting in a total cost of US$ 2.4 billion for 0 submarines.
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https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacifi ... e-contract

Australia will pay US$ 584 million to formally cancel the French contract, resulting in a total cost of US$ 2.4 billion for 0 submarines.

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by mxaxai
Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:32 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Norway to cancel NH90 contract with NH Industries (NHI)
Replies: 39
Views: 3956

Re: Norway to cancel NH90 contract with NH Industries (NHI)

So why has it been a disaster for others, with very competent armed forces, from NATO to Australia? Well, one problem appears to be the high degree of customization offered by NH/Airbus for both the NH-90 and the Tiger. Smaller operators with custom elements run a high risk that those features run ...

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by mxaxai
Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:13 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Germany gives the feeling that they try to send only military components which takes many months preparation... Well, which comparable SAMs are being delivered by other western NATO members? Or tanks, SPAA, SPGs, IFVs ...? Most militaries only operate and maintain the minimum equipment they need, u...

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by mxaxai
Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:09 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Germany is planning to procure IRIS-T SLM from manufacturer Diehl Defence and deliver them to Ukraine. These would be units that are currently in production for another customer. Delivery will take several months. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-send-iris-t-air-defence-system-ukraine-sc...

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by mxaxai
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:58 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 103531

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

Djlorry3 wrote:
Akkording to the evening News show of German Radio station "Deutschlandradio" the price tag will be only be 4 billion Dollars.

Interesting, given that the original quote was well over $10B with an available budget of $6B.

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by mxaxai
Sun May 29, 2022 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321XLR vs first generation long haul jets
Replies: 34
Views: 12739

Re: A321XLR vs first generation long haul jets

Does the XLR feature anything different to improve fuel burn from the normal 32Q? So far it just looks like a boring upgrade with nothing too exciting. The only aerodynamic improvement is the single slotted flaps but there is added structural weight with beefing up nose and main gears plus a larger...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 29, 2022 4:40 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Pressurized Cabins on Spacecraft - Also Watertight?
Replies: 16
Views: 1644

Re: Pressurized Cabins on Spacecraft - Also Watertight?

All capsules are designed to survive a water landing, though. Even those that usually land on ground, such as Soyuz or the Boeing Starliner. Only spaceplanes like Buran and the Space Shuttle would suffer serious damage if they had to ditch.

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by mxaxai
Thu May 26, 2022 9:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU is banning import of Tetraethyllead (for Avgas 100LL) from 2025
Replies: 38
Views: 7696

Re: EU is banning import of Tetraethyllead (for Avgas 100LL) from 2025

Why isn't there much adoption of piston diesel aircraft? Diesel and Jet A1 are similar enough that a diesel engine can be adapted to run on it, would be cheaper and wouldn't mean airports would only need to carry one type of fuel? Many small airfields don't offer Jet A1, they don't need to if there...

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by mxaxai
Wed May 25, 2022 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU is banning import of Tetraethyllead (for Avgas 100LL) from 2025
Replies: 38
Views: 7696

Re: EU is banning import of Tetraethyllead (for Avgas 100LL) from 2025

Why isn't there much adoption of piston diesel aircraft? Diesel and Jet A1 are similar enough that a diesel engine can be adapted to run on it, would be cheaper and wouldn't mean airports would only need to carry one type of fuel? Many small airfields don't offer Jet A1, they don't need to if there...

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by mxaxai
Tue May 24, 2022 9:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, TX
Replies: 519
Views: 15415

Re: Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, TX

Nothing to see here, just our daily mass shooting. Please move on and hope that you're not among tomorrow's victims.

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by mxaxai
Mon May 23, 2022 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2022
Replies: 1024
Views: 206351

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2022

-ATL? Maybe… but ATL to Europe is a very long time to be cooped up in a narrowbody, even if the flight could make it. Range will be the bigger issue. Shorter TATL to the UK or Spain should be possible from ATL but ATL-HAM is just under 4000nm, STR and BER are slightly further. Yes, Airbus claims th...

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by mxaxai
Wed May 18, 2022 8:39 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Airbus A400M News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 20
Views: 7226

Re: Airbus A400M News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Seems the Firefighting option mentionned to be explored in the Indonesia order press release last year is getting real and could be ready before the end of this year :shock: Only found this source in spanish. Hopefully will be reported in english soon... https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diario/mos...

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by mxaxai
Wed May 18, 2022 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China
Replies: 1166
Views: 438598

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

You have to be careful when claiming something has been corroborated by multiple media reports. Nowadays, a lot of articles are simply re-reporting other articles (basically the same as retweeting it). You have to actually read the article to see if they got their own sources, or if they're just re...

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by mxaxai
Tue May 17, 2022 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2022
Replies: 1024
Views: 206351

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2022

So the burning question now is what does DL do once the 767 and 757s inevitably exit the fleet? Any tertiary cities in Europe would be a non-starter with the smallest widebody which would be the 332. I see them continuing to just fly the trunk routes with A350s and 339s and letting AF/KL do the res...

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by mxaxai
Mon May 16, 2022 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2022
Replies: 1024
Views: 206351

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2022

Interview / article with Nicolas Ferri, Delta's manager for EMEA + India: https://www.aerotelegraph.com/delta-sieht-ueberraschend-starke-nachfrage-nach-europafluegen [German] DL expects to be at 95% of pre-COVID capacity TATL this summer, or even slightly above when including AFKL and VS codeshare f...

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by mxaxai
Mon May 16, 2022 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii
Replies: 27
Views: 8722

Re: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii

There is a noise curfew between 23:00~-06:00 at Haneda, since it's situated so close to densely-populated residential areas. (Shinagawa, Odaiba/Ariake, Kawasaki, Kamata, etc.)... C Runway became the arrival/departure runway for northerly winds, and was allowed to have up to eight departures and arr...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 15, 2022 9:07 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do we "check in?"
Replies: 72
Views: 7111

Re: Why do we "check in?"

Name is on the ticket at the time of purchase. No need for check in to look it up. I took a flight recently where zero documentation was checked at any point at the airport, except the boarding pass (which I had printed out at home). The boarding pass had my name on it, sure, but without an ID or p...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 15, 2022 8:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.
Replies: 201
Views: 9118

Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

So where do we go from there? Stop selling body armor so we can shoot mass shooters more easily? If the answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun then the answer to your question is that the good guy with the gun will need to start wearing body armor when he goes shopping. Well, airpo...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 15, 2022 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii
Replies: 27
Views: 8722

Re: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii

The only airports with runways that could support an A380 landing are NRT, HND, KIX and CTS; Haneda has one A380 gate (gate 107 in the international terminal) Didn't HND ban A380s due to the increased wake separation to smaller aircraft, which would cost slots? Or has that changed? Otherwise, I don...

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by mxaxai
Sat May 14, 2022 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COMAC C919 Production and Testing Thread - 2022
Replies: 20
Views: 6702

Re: COMAC C919 Production and Testing Thread - 2022

We have seen very little news of the test flight program. Now, I realize that Chinese companies tend to be more secretive about such activities, or they just don't get reported in english media. Still, delivering an aircraft by end of this year would require certification within 6 months, which seem...

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by mxaxai
Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Air Force disciplines C-130 crew for unplanned landing to pick up motorcycle in Martha’s Vineyard
Replies: 17
Views: 2446

Re: Air Force disciplines C-130 crew for unplanned landing to pick up motorcycle in Martha’s Vineyard

Of course some Martha's Vineyard locals rat them out. I was thinking it would've actually been a Plane Spotter,. Might explain why I was asked to only take photos of planes, not of cargo. Who would've thought that those innocent looking boxes could actually contain things like motorcycles and souve...

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by mxaxai
Thu May 12, 2022 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 495
Views: 151251

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Lufthansa says it seeks to divest the rest of its stake LSG catering unit On that topic, I had two flights with LH some weeks ago, and on both flights they didn't offer any food or drinks to buy due to "staff shortages at the caterer". Handed out a complimentary bottle of water and a smal...

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by mxaxai
Wed May 11, 2022 9:35 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Question regarding the Mach Loop
Replies: 15
Views: 2052

Re: Question regarding the Mach Loop

The accident rate dropped considerably in the mid-1970s, however. There weren't as many left? They learned what the F-104G could and couldn't do, they improved engine reliability and modified maintenance procedures, swapped the ejection seats for a safer model, added overrun protection to runways, ...

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by mxaxai
Wed May 11, 2022 8:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii
Replies: 27
Views: 8722

Re: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii

Great news, looks like many on this board missed it. With Japan fully re-opening its borders soon, there must be lots of pent up travel demand both to and from Japan.

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by mxaxai
Mon May 09, 2022 12:32 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Don't A400Ms carry almost twice as much fuel as the KC-130J? A400M: 50,800 kg/112,000 lbs/63,500 litres without or 62,320 kg/137,400 lbs/77,900 litres with the cargo hold tank. They do but they also burn it roughly twice as fast. Now, if you include a distance from the airfield to the operational a...

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by mxaxai
Mon May 09, 2022 9:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.
Replies: 86
Views: 14016

Re: EasyJet to take out seats so it can fly with fewer crew.

Wasn't the 156-seat A319 variant (with double overwing exits) developed and built at Easyjets request? Pretty sure they were the launch customer for this option, although other operators later chose it as well.

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by mxaxai
Mon May 09, 2022 7:34 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Off on a tangent, since the U.S. Airforce seems to be the only service that uses the boom system why haven't they been forced to go to the system that everybody else is using? Seems silly to have them using a system that nobody else uses Considering how long the boom has been in operation, hardly a...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 08, 2022 8:58 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

How is the endurance of a C130 tanker, btw? I assume it is considerably less compared to A400M/A330/KC10/KC135? I don't have exact numbers but it's been my impression so far that the (K)C-130 has more endurance than the A400M. It was always designed to be efficient at slow speeds, whereas the A400M...

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by mxaxai
Sun May 08, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 133321

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

https://nitter.net/buch10_04/status/152 ... niV2g&s=19
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Video showing a Russian helicopter getting destroyed (with crew) by a TB-2 while on the ground at Snake Island, published by the Ukrainian forces:
https://nitter.net/buch10_04/status/152 ... niV2g&s=19

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by mxaxai
Sat May 07, 2022 7:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Updated: US supreme court overturns abortion rights, upending Roe vs. Wade
Replies: 969
Views: 35545

Re: Supreme Court is preparing to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

And also by the way, contraception is next. Of course. It's never been about the fetus, or the potentially born children. "Just don't have sex", conservatives will say, "stay a virgin until marriage and obey your husband for the rest of your life". That's their entire motivation...

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