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by User001
Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

We also need to remember why comparisons to the likes of BA pre-covid to now are moot. Before this, Ba had high costs and premium heavy fleets focused on business routes. Previously, if there was a choice between an extra flight on LHR-JFK or adding MAN-JFK, the market dictated that the former was p...

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by User001
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

The market has changed. For. The . Worse. Let me say it again For. The . Worse Acting like the change is a positive thing for aviation is wishful thinking. When one ignores the points being made and changes the goalposts to suit that argument, its clear there is no hope of a rational debate occurri...

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by User001
Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Sorry, I guess I'm neither rational nor informed. But, generally when a large profitable company leaves something alone, while others chase it and are in bankruptcy, it does make you wonder. How is it a competitive market? And compared to what? Lets just say this again: The.market.has.changed. And ...

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by User001
Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2899
Views: 329880

Re: JetBlue Network Thread - 2020

I see non-stop from MAN-BGI, but none to CUN, MBJ or PUJ or AUA.


TUI operates non stops on MAN-BGI/POP/CUN/MBJ/PVR/UVF and VRA.

Charters they may be, but its still taking potential pax that could have flown scheduled routings.

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

I'm not sold. MAN sounds a lot better on paper than it does in reality. There's a long list of failed endeavors at MAN. There's a reason BA ceded that market to Thomas Cook and Virgin Atlantic. EI may have a shot with the right sized aircraft, but it's unlikely to be the goldmine a.net hopes it wil...

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

I wonder, did Thomas Cook ever fly to SEA from Manchester? I also wonder, what is a discussion about TCX flying to SEA or not doing in a thread about EI starting US routes from Manchester. I thought they announced JFK, BOS, MCO and ORD? The irony of an off topic post complaining about an off topic ...

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Thomas Cook flew to Seattle in summer 2019 which was the last season before their collapse. Boston had been cut in 2018 but was more pointing out the destinations. Without wanting to get too off topic, I can assure you TCX did not operate to SEA in summer 2019 they did in summer 2018 and was mainly...

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Thomas Cook flew to Seattle in summer 2019 which was the last season before their collapse. Boston had been cut in 2018 but was more pointing out the destinations.

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

There's still quite a bit of manufacturing in that part of England. I could it being a convenient connection on AA for Rolls Royce to get between Indianapolis and Derby as an example. Lots of smaller niche style operations that do quite well up there where salaries are cheaper. While going the othe...

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by User001
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020

AirBourne wrote:
Looks like VS have suspended the seasonal MAN-LAX with all slot requests withdrawn for Summer 21.


No its still on sale. Slots are widely regarded as not the final say on new routes, so cannot be classed as the final say on potential ending routes.

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

SEU wrote:
Question

How does Brexit affect this? Because they are an Irish airline, owned by a Spanish company. Does this mean that IAG foresee a future of openskies arrangements moving forward?


They have applied for a British AOC for this venture.

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

https://www.visitbritain.org/sites/default/files/vb-corporate/Documents-Library/documents/foresight_174_regional_spread_of_inbound_tourism.pdf If you credit the potential markets of North West, North East, Yorkshire, Wales, West Midlands, and East Midlands from the US it comes to about 2.4 million ...

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Highly doubt it’ll be heavy ex-NA. Who wants to go to Manchester? Cant work out if this is a trolling attempt or serious? But Ill bite. You do realise MAN as an airport serves far more than Manchester. Long haul wise, its the main airport for the big cities including Manchester, Leeds, Liverpool, Y...

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

The whole 'MAN needs more TATL service' is about as relentlessly tiresome as 'DUS needs TATL service.' If there were money to be made somebody smart would be flying it. You remember that Thomas Cook went into liquidation, right? That suggests a few problems with its route structure and business mod...

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Didn't see this posted, deserves its own thread I feel. https://onemileatatime.com/aer-lingus-manchester/ Think it'll work? I wonder if BHX tried to court EI for these flights...especially as there is so little competition there. Not a chance if there is a no-deal Brexit. If a deal, it will depend ...

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: EI looking to start transatlantic from MAN

EI tried to make MAN into a European hub in the 1990s. I hope this venture has more success. The Aer Lingus MAN-Europe flights were 5th freedoms using different ticket pooling rules that existed back then. When the rules changed, the 5th freedoms were not required, much in the same way the stopover...

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by User001
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60445

Re: EI looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Ive managed to look deeper at the slot requests and its looking like EI have applied for: daily BOS arriving into MAN 0550 and departing 1040/1045. A321N Daily JFK arriving into MAN 0610 departing 1210 A321N Daily MCO arriving into MAN 0745 departing 0940 but 2 days see slightly different departing ...

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by User001
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020

VS have dabbled with ORD from both MAN and LHR over the years & have never been able to make it work. I could see them testing the water with a seasonal DTW route, especially if it gives good feed into connections on DL. Similarly, they keep on switching the ATL service from MAN between VS &...

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by User001
Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020

If the Midwest had such large MAN demand, AA would have made it work from ORD considering it has BA on the MAN end Sigh, this argument again. Firstly, MAN doesnt have BA on ‘this end’. It has Billund and Heathrow as full time, more than daily routes. Then a handful of weekend flights with cityflyer...

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

It would be quite the sight to see up to 7 Aer Lingus aircraft (Belfast, Boston, Chicago, Cork, Dublin, New York, Orlando) on the ground at MAN during the morning And what chance of another ATR feeding into SNN too. I know Ryanair cover the route now bit Aer Lingus used to do the route up to 3 dail...

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOT Approved Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture (update, was tentative)
Replies: 42
Views: 6600

Re: DOT Tentatively Approves Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture

Obviously it's rather unlikely we'll see any new routes immediately with the current situation. I assume your not up to speed with the new Aer Lingus TATL base at Manchester being proposed for Summer 2021? That new base fits into this news very nicely! Where has it been proposed other than on a.net...

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOT Approved Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture (update, was tentative)
Replies: 42
Views: 6600

Re: DOT Tentatively Approves Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture

Well the good news about the JV means that now the MAN base is essentially BA in disguise due to the revenue share. Hopefully this means companies like British Airways holidays used the Aer Lingus MAN flights and thus boost the brand awareness. MAN-MCO on EI would benefit no end if BA holidays got b...

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOT Approved Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture (update, was tentative)
Replies: 42
Views: 6600

Re: DOT Tentatively Approves Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture

Ishrion wrote:

Ah, I forgot about the new Manchester long-haul flights.


Apologies as ive just read my response and it comes across as unintentionally rude.

I certainly wasnt aiming to be, but with the MAN news being tucked away in the Irish and MAN threads, was genuinely unsure if it had been seen.

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DOT Approved Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture (update, was tentative)
Replies: 42
Views: 6600

Re: DOT Tentatively Approves Aer Lingus Joining the AA/BA/IB/AY Joint Venture

Obviously it's rather unlikely we'll see any new routes immediately with the current situation.


I assume your not up to speed with the new Aer Lingus TATL base at Manchester being proposed for Summer 2021?

That new base fits into this news very nicely!

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by User001
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

The S21 pre season slot report is out for DUB. Looking at it, Transavia have applied for LYS and RTM, as well as Aer Lingus to Bodrum. Ryanair have applied for a few routes too but that seems to be it for new routes. A lot of routes say they have been increased, but im struggling to work out how the...

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by User001
Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 321
Views: 28075

Re: Terminals Still Closed Due To COVID?

Closed in the UK

T3 and 4 at LHR
T2 and 3 at MAN
NQY is closed to pax ops
One of the LGW terminals but forget if its North or South
One if the satellites at STN is also closed.

Many airports in the UK have reduced hours too.

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by User001
Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

For EI and people worrying if they could fit into the MAN market. Firstly, Aer Lingus have been serving Manchester pretty much since their inception. Yes, brand recognition on a MAN-Ireland route will be different to that of a MAN-USA route, but thanks to the DUB hub, there is already quite the bran...

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by User001
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

I'd also add that part of the reason EI can offer such attractive Y fares ex UK is they are filling J cabins at decent yields ex DUB. They won't have this advantage operating P2P from MAN. Make no mistake - P2P ex MAN is a very different strategy to the one they've pursued for the best part of a de...

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by User001
Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Battling it out for P2P leisure passengers in a fairly price-sensitive market doesn't feel like the right strategy for EI. Huh? Thats exactly the strategy EI have been using for many years, with EI often coming up the cheapest to the US from the UK, and cheaper by a considerable amount usually. Onl...

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by User001
Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Virgin Atlantic a330-200
Replies: 10
Views: 4236

Re: Virgin Atlantic a330-200

End of October to mid November are the proposed leave dates for the A332. For S21 currently 2 will be based at LHR and one at MAN.

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by User001
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

It's not just that Manchester is at least 30% cheaper than Dublin to live in, its also all the lower mimimum wage Manchester cabin crew who can be hired on Zero hour contracts .... Aside from the cost of loving argument (you are comparing a european capital city to a regional city), your claims abo...

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by User001
Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Is there any point in trying to attract passengers on marginal routes like ORD when the historical demand to the Caribbean has been strong and likely to be better than 'business' routes for the next few seasons? It will depend on what the overall aim is. There will be plenty of city breakers on the...

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by User001
Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Can EI make MAN work? In theory yes, but previous EI efforts to develop routes from MAN work (mostly forgotten now) have not been too successful. Thats not strictly true. Aer Lingus used to serve Manchester-Europe as 5th freedom rights due to the pooling agreements that were in use before openskies...

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by User001
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

There is strong talk that Aer Lingus is setting up a UK AOC to operate these flights and that it will indeed be a 4 aircraft base. This could also explain my earlier post as to why the MAN-DUB schedule has been reduced. With 4 aircraft worth of pax now flying direct from MAN, EI wouldnt need the sam...

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by User001
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Does anyone know what’s happening to the Aer Lingus schedule to MAN/DUB next summer? Previously this route has run as high as 38 weekly, but so far next summer, its down to just 23 weekly. Tuesdays doesnt have the option of a day return as there are just 2 flights from MAN, one at 0800 and the other...

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by User001
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

And recovery will happen everywhere, not just in the UK. It will happen in Ireland too, you know! Nobody can predict the future. A lot can happen between now and S21 in these uncertain times. I didn't say it wouldn't happen in Ireland, I was merely countering your argument that the current lockdown...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

England has just gone into another lockdown and this news from EI was released a number of weeks ago And this latest info in the current article suggests that Aer Lingus and the UK govt spoke to each other as little as 1 week ago, so clearly its still on the agenda. We are also talking about S21, s...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

I am Irish and I am not concerned by EI's current discussions with the UK Government. In times of disruption all options need to be explored. I do think that MAN is probably one option, with other regional UK airports under consideration. Remember a transatlantic service for a regional airport is a...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Many airlines have tried to make TATL MAN service work and it's failed every time British Midland, American and British Airways only VS/DL has continuously served the market. If I were Irish I'd be concerned about BA taking EI assets and redeploying them to serve the needs of BA rather than their o...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

That maybe true but MAN is pretty well covered by VS/DL. VS and DL is unlikely to ever serve MAN-ORD, there's now a questionmark over how long it will take them to re-add BOS, and JFK is down to a single A333, after a peak of B744s and A332s just 2 years ago. Even in these times that's undeserved. ...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Why would they want to compete for London traffic when they are already more than enough competitors already. These Aer Lingus UK flights wouldnt be from London. Previous articles have already stated they would serve regional UK cities. Biased view maybe, but if these flights come to fruition, they...

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by User001
Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/20: Testing times
Replies: 308
Views: 37125

Re: Irish 11/20: Testing times

Each to their own opinion. EI with the new brand wanted to 'de-irish' the brand - their own comments at the time of the launch! Mission accomplished. They tried Manchester and Gatwick, although shorthaul only. They are not an LCC and their cost structure means they need bums at the front of the air...

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by User001
Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 263
Views: 32303

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

OTP-HAM is bookable 2 weekly from 1st Dec according to their website. Tue and Sat initially. Rises to 5 weekly by next summer.

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by User001
Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 263
Views: 32303

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Ryanair starting a 3 weekly Manchester-Bucharest from 29th March. Bookable on their site.

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by User001
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic Short Haul

And if we are talking about the short haul segments of Virgin Australia/blue and Virgin Nigeria, then we can't leave out Virgin Sun and the small fleet of A320 and A321.

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by User001
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian AIrlines News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 42142

Re: Growth and future of Ethiopian airlines

Ethiopian have been serving Manchester direct on Sundays since the middle of October.

The other 2 weekly flights continue to fly via Brussels.

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by User001
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020
Replies: 179
Views: 43049

Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Iran Air didn’t last long; https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/294391/iran-air-w20-european-network-adjustment-as-of-14oct20/ It lasted the course that it was supposed to. When the route was announced, it was only a temporary service. Indeed lasted exactly as long as it was originally...

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by User001
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic Adds MAN-BOM/DEL

It's bookable from 20th October

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by User001
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 600
Views: 64760

Re: Virgin Atlantic Adds MAN-BOM/DEL

Both these new routes are new to Virgin at Manchester.
As mentioned, Delhi was due to be launched this month but given the way the world is, a 2 month delay is a good outcome.

2 B787 will eventually be based at MAN. So far, Islamabad, Mumbai and Delhi use the B787 at MAN.

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by User001
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation - 2020
Replies: 1103
Views: 189809

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

http://flynordic.com/

So far only a name and website though


Is this the new Braathens venture or is that already something else?
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Someone83 wrote:
Is there a new Swedish airline called Nordic Airways planned?

http://flynordic.com/

So far only a name and website though


Is this the new Braathens venture or is that already something else?

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