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by jomur
Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court

got this e-mail from Flying Club late yesterday evening. Hello xxxxx, You may have seen headlines today regarding Virgin Atlantic’s Chapter 15 filing in the United States. I wanted to contact you to provide some more context, make sure you have all the information, and to reassure you that if you h...

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by jomur
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 221
Views: 46977

Re: BA starting LHR-MCO

The connectivity part at LHR over LGW makes sense, but BA will have no feed on the MCO end and Florida is one of the major US hotspots for COVID19 at the moment, so neither the business traveler nor the bucket and spade traveler are likely booking trips to/from and there are restrictions on both en...

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by jomur
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 221
Views: 46977

Re: BA starting LHR-MCO

Starting 25th October in addition to LGW flights. No short haul at LGW until at leat November https://www.turningleftforless.com/news-watch-out-for-ba-special-offer-british-airways-no-short-haul-flights-at-gatwick-until-november-and-orlando-partially-moves-to-heathrow/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_me...

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by jomur
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 221
Views: 46977

Re: BA starting LHR-MCO

Lots of businesses and conferences with worldwide visitors in Orlando. This is the same reason BA moved LAS to LHR for the connections. This has nothing to do with business. O&D is battered right now so the route will benefit from connections. Those are limited at LGW so while there’s slack at ...

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by jomur
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Engineer examining engine on landing
Replies: 24
Views: 3197

Re: Engineer examining engine on landing

Its standard procedure at Jet2. The engineers do a quick visual check every time the aircraft arrives back at its base. Seen it at every arrival I have met in.

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by jomur
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JET2 - what next ?
Replies: 98
Views: 18731

Re: JET2 - what next ?

Would a takeover of Jet2 by TUI be allowed by competition regulators ? If so, what kind of penalty might the regulator demand to allow a takeover ? For a start it would have to be a hostile takeover as there is no way Phillip Meason would allow that. Jet2 was on course to overtake TUI in a few year...

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by jomur
Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JET2 - what next ?
Replies: 98
Views: 18731

Re: JET2 - what next ?

Would a takeover of Jet2 by TUI be allowed by competition regulators ? If so, what kind of penalty might the regulator demand to allow a takeover ? For a start it would have to be a hostile takeover as there is no way Phillip Meason would allow that. Jet2 was on course to overtake TUI in a few year...

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by jomur
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - July 2020
Replies: 93
Views: 8255

Re: Airlines practicing social distancing in their cabins

Airlines will only try and practise social distance whilst loads are low as they basically do it any way for weight and balance. When the loads increase it will go out of the window.

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by jomur
Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JET2 - what next ?
Replies: 98
Views: 18731

Re: JET2 - what next ?

Jet2.com's winter programme is now going to be 50% of what was originally planned and next year summer is 20% less than what was originally planned. Both these could increase with demand but just as equally drop. Also they haven't taken up the £300 million Government backed loan they secured either ...

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by jomur
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JET2 - what next ?
Replies: 98
Views: 18731

Re: JET2 - what next ?

Jet2 have a very differentiated business model and they are more a tour operator than low cost airline, hence they can go alongside easyJet and Ryanair at bases like STN BHX etc. Not technically apples with apples. I'd be inclined to agree with above comments, Jet2 should stick to what they know an...

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by jomur
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 204
Views: 53129

Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread

Considering Norwegian said they weren't going to by flying from LGW until April 2021 at the earliest something is not quite right somewhere.

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by jomur
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austria to introduce minimum price for plane tickets
Replies: 176
Views: 16539

Re: Austria to introduce minimum price for plane tickets

Curious to see if it passes EU rules, setting a minimum price is generally not acceptable. Also curious how Austrian customers will be able to redeem their Miles and More flights. If Scotland can get away with having a minimum price for Alcohol then the EU will not care about minimum prices for an ...

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by jomur
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 48
Views: 4315

Re: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2020

Well who would have thought it would have taken a global pandemic, but MCO is finally getting a LHR flight. VS announced today that it will resume service to MCO on 7/20 and the flight will now be serviced via LHR. https://thepointsguy.com/news/virgin-atlantic-first-routes-post-coronavirus/ But for...

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by jomur
Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LGW has 21 departing passengers in 1 day
Replies: 9
Views: 6001

Re: LGW has 21 departing passengers in 1 day

BA will return pretty smart I'm sure - already showing Caribbean flights 01 July (ANU) - I know that can all change of course. BA has already relayed to tourism officials there that it intends to restart from LHR. No decision has been made,the threat of pulling out was aimed at the Unions. BA would...

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by jomur
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JET2 - what next ?
Replies: 98
Views: 18731

Re: JET2 - what next ?

If Jet2 were to look in to Long Haul, they would need to introduce a new type to the fleet whether purchased or lease, set up all kinds of operations on the ground, move in to a market that they don't really know and then would need to find use for those aircraft out of season, which would mean som...

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by jomur
Wed May 27, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest wins JD Power award in both categories for US carriers
Replies: 51
Views: 3938

Re: WN wins JD Power award in both categories

Can the thread title be changed to show that is is just for the US air!ines?

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by jomur
Tue May 26, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Air Canada to buy Air Transat
Replies: 390
Views: 72207

Re: Confirmed: Air Canada to buy Air Transat

Now EU will open full-scale investigation into AC-TS deal over worries purchase could reduce competition on 33 routes. https://business.financialpost.com/transportation/airlines/air-canada-transat-deal-faces-intense-eu-antitrust-scrutiny The EU is having a laugh. I reckon most of those 33 routes wo...

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by jomur
Fri May 15, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 320
Views: 60157

Re: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant

Meanwhile, despite Rishi Sunak announcing an extension of the furlough scheme by a few extra months and on the back of his appearance in front of the Transport Select Committee this week, Willie Walsh has announced BA will proceed with the plan to make 12,000 redundancies... https://www.theguardian...

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by jomur
Fri May 15, 2020 7:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What on earth was this plane doing?
Replies: 19
Views: 7942

Re: What on earth was this plane doing?

That's definitely a survey grid. If you look at marine traffic you can find similar patterns for ships. I used to work on survey ships and some of our survey grids where hundreds of Km long with a couple hundred metres between each line.

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by jomur
Wed May 13, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

If demand across the board drops by, lets say 50%, BA can drop 1 or 2 aircraft on many routes and still fly at a profit on the remainimg aircraft.flying the route. VS on the other hand usually would have only 1 aircraft flying a routei.which now would be 50% full and highly likely it won't be making...

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by jomur
Wed May 13, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

I think releasing this schedule is somewhat of a PR exercise and maybe more for investors than for customers. What's the chances that flights from GLA/BFS and MAN are all for hub through LHR intially? There is going to be a lot of spare capacity. RE: BA in a lot of ways their conundrum is more comp...

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by jomur
Wed May 13, 2020 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic Plans GLA for 2021
Replies: 24
Views: 4477

Re: Virgin Atlantic Plans GLA for 2021

Its also stated as a seasonal route whereas it was supposed to go year round from this winter. It has always been cheaper for us to fly down to either LGW or travel to MAN than fly direct from GLA, and that includes travelling costs.

Could all be mute if they don't survive....

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by jomur
Tue May 12, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Agree it is a massive road bump - as things stand VS has been grounded for coming up to two months and is still operating. I consider that a circa two month grounding would constitute more than a slight road bump, yet VS is still here (for now). Virgin are still operating because they have not paid...

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by jomur
Tue May 12, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic Plans GLA for 2021
Replies: 24
Views: 4477

Re: Virgin Atlantic Plans GLA for 2021

Interesting move in my opinion,. They are planning GLA-JFK/MCO/ATL/LAX. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5587412/glasgow-flights-virgin-atlantic-usa-new-york-los-angeles-barbados/amp/ The only one direct is going to be MCO. The others possibly indirect as a code share on D...

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by jomur
Mon May 11, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Okay - to apply your criteria against some airlines who have received government support to deal with what you describe as this “slight road bump” No, Covid is a massive road bump - but the other airlines were viable because they could have dealt with a slight one - they had reserves and / or asset...

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by jomur
Mon May 11, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Its not a vast amount, taxes relevant to the aviation industry would still be paid if Virgin didn't exist as their passengers would most likely fly with another airline. PAYE is a small amount considering the rather small amount of staff they have. . I don’t think you can credibly assert that it is...

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by jomur
Mon May 11, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The wider benefits to the U.K. taxpayer and society from VS have been explained at length in this thread and I won’t repeat them here. And that is give the money to more companies that employ more people that stand a better chance of survival long term and don't waste your money if you cannot get i...

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by jomur
Mon May 11, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The wider benefits to the U.K. taxpayer and society from VS have been explained at length in this thread and I won’t repeat them here. And that is give the money to more companies that employ more people that stand a better chance of survival long term and don't waste your money if you cannot get i...

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by jomur
Sun May 10, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The fact that VS are still very much still in business 2 months into this proves that they were well prepared for any established downturn scenario. Today for example, they’re operating almost 20 cargo sectors which is almost a third of their usual schedule. A pretty good effort compared to most. I...

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by jomur
Sun May 10, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The fact that VS are still very much still in business 2 months into this proves that they were well prepared for any established downturn scenario. Today for example, they’re operating almost 20 cargo sectors which is almost a third of their usual schedule. A pretty good effort compared to most. I...

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by jomur
Sat May 09, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Delta hasn't begged for money. They are seeing things as they are. They don't want to put their hands in their own pockets and so far accept that no one comes running to do it for them. Delta hasn’t begged for money because it has already received several billion USD in state aid. They are not perm...

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by jomur
Fri May 08, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The British Isles already has several major airlines: - Easy Jet - Ryanair - Jet2 - British Airways - Air Lingus - TUI Airways - Loganair Not to mention that there are plenty of superior airlines from overseas that British people can fly on (KLM, Lufthansa etc...) Why does Virgin Atlantic need to b...

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by jomur
Wed May 06, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin and the 747...
Replies: 24
Views: 4532

Re: Virgin and the 747...

The beach fleet 744 had only 14 Upper class seats but about 50 premium economy seats. a different market than JFK or LAX but not the dog some male out to be. What airline would send 5 744 a day to a city not making $$ ? Indeed. The config was 14 Upper, 66 PE and 375 Y. PE is a popular cabin and pri...

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by jomur
Wed May 06, 2020 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin and the 747...
Replies: 24
Views: 4532

Re: Virgin and the 747...

The 747’s to MCO were so low yielding, that without them going full, or 90%, they struggled to make any money. Only 14 Upper Seats are hardly going to turn much profit, when the majority of people are looking to ‘jut get there’ in economy. I’d say going forward, Virgin won’t send any aircraft to MC...

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by jomur
Wed May 06, 2020 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin and the 747...
Replies: 24
Views: 4532

Re: Virgin and the 747...

So with the announcement today that Virgin is finished with their 747's what happens to a city like Orlando which had 5-6 747 visits a day?. I realize that it will never be the same again at least not in the forseeable future, but there was an article in the Orlando Senitnel that the Brits are stil...

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by jomur
Fri May 01, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

I am a bit of legacy lover but I took Easyjet JMK - MXP and the 2 -something hour flight was pretty decent. Had a half-bottle of Tattinger and a sandwich and before I knew it we were descending with a stunning overhead view of Venice. The tickets were not cheap but the schedule was perfect. That wa...

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by jomur
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 320
Views: 60157

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

Closing BA LGW just means the long haul routes moved to LHR to protect slots and selected short haul support long haul connections once more. As for LGW-GLA/EDI/AMS where they compete to some extent with LHR, like LCY, I suspect they’ll be dropped. LGW pretty much is easyJet now anyway, as D8 have ...

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by jomur
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

VS also have high fares on routes they have no competition, GLA -MCO is expensive with VA. Its £100's cheaper to fly to go via LGW with BA. Even MAN-MCO is getting much more expensive.

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by jomur
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Unless the Govt can support every company, choices have to be made. If they give to VS, then they have to say ‘no’ to someone else. The question is ‘can VS find funds elsewhere’. If not, will any loan be repaid within a reasonable timescale. VS has two main markets, TATL and Caribbean. The first Bu...

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by jomur
Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

VS, like Norwegian will be toast if they don't get new backers and I can't see either of them getting them in the current situation.

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by jomur
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020
Replies: 542
Views: 99348

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

The situation over in Europe seems to be more dire because on increased competition and less demand. The major airlines of the US will remain but the smaller regional airlines will merge. In Europe, which lacks a major airline, mergers and failures are more likely to happen. So IAG, AFKLM, LH, Easy...

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by jomur
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020
Replies: 542
Views: 99348

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

The situation over in Europe seems to be more dire because on increased competition and less demand. The major airlines of the US will remain but the smaller regional airlines will merge. In Europe, which lacks a major airline, mergers and failures are more likely to happen. So IAG, AFKLM, LH, Easy...

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by jomur
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

IT does not matter what anyone thinks of SRB, at the end of the day VS is asking for commercial loans, whether from banks, the UK Government or who ever and at this moment none of them sees VS as a worthwhile risk, sad how ever it is.

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Discussion: A New 2-1-2 Seating In B737 and A320 Series to Comply Social Distancing?
Replies: 43
Views: 6814

Re: Discussion: A New 2-1-2 Seating In B737 and A320 Series to Comply Social Distancing?

Social distancing is a short term solution, it is not sustainable ifor long periods let alone being the new normal so why would anyone change their airctaft seating? Eventually and probably sooner than all the pessimists think it will be back to normal and we will just have to live with Covid19 like...

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

The British government is taking a much more free market approach than most others. The US is similar but has most of its airlines crying for help. The UK has their biggest airline saying they are fine at the moment. Support an already weak organisation and thereby weakening a stronger one? As sad ...

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

If Virgin Atlantic goes into to administration then it will be the end, all flying will be stopped and its AOC suspended.. The administrators would try and sell it as a going concern first to pay of its debts, highly unlikely to find someone or it would already have happened. Next the adminsttators ...

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Virgin Atlantic is a worthy investment for investors who can afford a longer investment horizon. It is probably a good thing that investment banks are involved as advisors and that sovereign wealth funds are considered. I find it somewhat surprising that the Bank of England hasn't followed yet the ...

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

They Def should get a bail out . Af is getting bln of euros so is alitalia why shouldn't virgin . They are more of a British airline than wizz air who have secured 300m . Hopefully virgin will find a buyer . I think in the long run they should do well Just to be clear the UK Governmemt IS NOT baili...

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic seeks restructuring; files for BK in US Court
Replies: 1455
Views: 175641

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Wouldn't Non-EU buyers be off the table unless Delta is going to sell some of its holding due to the 49% rule?

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by jomur
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair Threatens EU Over State Aid to Airlines
Replies: 342
Views: 30155

Re: Ryanair Threatens EU Over State Aid to Airlines

People seems to be missing the point. Ryanair wants tbe principle to be if they offer aid to one airline they cannot then refuse to give it to another airline either for what ever reason, and it would apply to the whole EU so Germany, France and Netherlands etc.. It could also spill over into over i...

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