Lufthansa and Airbus

With the exception of the A318 I believe Lufthansa has operated every single model of Airbus The A300, 310, 319, 320, 321, 330-300, 340-300 / 600, of course the A380 and now the A350, not sure if they ever flew the A330-200 but they’ve come close to purchasing every Airbus that’s been built Impressi...

Re: Any word on United returning to JFK ?

Like British Airways having scheduled flights from LHR and LGW it’s not either / or There’s certain customers who will find the geographical convenience compelling It’s not like UA’s Newark hub would be less profitable or they’d dominate that airport less if they restarted JFK operations It’s an imp...

Re: The year is 1981-… Would you rather…?

In 1981 it was impossible to know the future of Panam or Piedmont The former still had years to go before they went under and it was quite possible they could have been saved at that point Don’t know much about Piedmont, I think they ended up merging into USAIR ? I would have gone with PanAm if tho...

Re: Any word on United returning to JFK ?

The B6 acquisition of NK will not result in major divestitures in NYC, at least not at JFK. LGA, maybe. That doesn't solve UA's problem at JFK. If the NEA unravels through legal means, again, nothing to divest. B6 and AA just using their slots, though optimized (and that's probably more the issue t...

Re: The year is 1981-… Would you rather…?

In 1981 it was impossible to know the future of Panam or Piedmont The former still had years to go before they went under and it was quite possible they could have been saved at that point Don’t know much about Piedmont, I think they ended up merging into USAIR ? I would have gone with PanAm if thos...

Re: Post disappeared part 2

Looks like the thread is still open, just my later post was deleted, not sure why that happened still

Post disappeared part 2

I recently opened a thread titled ‘any word on United returning to JFK’ ? When I checked back later I could not find the thread, it appeared to have disappeared however it was pointed out it was still there I thanked the moderator in question and made a follow up post which could not have been more ...

Re: Post disappeared

I posted a question in Civil Aviation asking if anyone had any information on United returning to JFK Checking back later I see this post is no longer there and I don’t see it in another forum Curious to know where it went Doesn't look like it went anywhere.. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtop...

Re: A320s heading west stopping for gas

Certainly looks fun. I opened up the windy app (or go to windy.com) and at FL340 it looks like a perfect headwind of 110kts + across the entire US. I’m tempted to find out some ground speeds. Fred Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I just saw UA 1338 (753, ORD-EWR) do 606kts (696mph, 1120kph) over La...

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I posted a question in Civil Aviation asking if anyone had any information on United returning to JFK


Checking back later I see this post is no longer there and I don’t see it in another forum


Curious to know where it went

Re: Engine Derates and top-of-climb power

Fun fact: The 777-200 LR GE90-115 was down rated to 110,000 lbs of thrust and designated the GE90-110. Exact same engine, just an artificially imposed limitation This limitation was imposed because testing revealed that 115,000 lbs of thrust moved so much air that flutter was induced on the elevato...

Any word on United returning to JFK ?

All seems to have gone quiet on this !

Re: C-130 Production Question

aumaverick wrote:

Max Q wrote:

What an amazing aircraft, the C130 and CH47 just keep going

Other than VTOL, name something the Herk can't do! Very soon, it will be able to walk on water

Re: C-130 Production Question

What an amazing aircraft, the C130 and CH47 just keep going

Re: Why retire KC-10 and not KC-135

My understanding is that it's driven by operational costs and mission demand. The demand for KC-10 missions is lower and the operational cost higher, than those for the KC-135. Also the KC-135 is in the groove where there is strong understanding of how to mitigate aging in terms of fatigue and corr...

Re: Why retire KC-10 and not KC-135

My understanding is that it's driven by operational costs and mission demand. The demand for KC-10 missions is lower and the operational cost higher, than those for the KC-135. Also the KC-135 is in the groove where there is strong understanding of how to mitigate aging in terms of fatigue and corr...

Re: Engine Derates and top-of-climb power

I think it does depend if its a selectable derate or an actual rating plug derate. EG would a GE90-77 actually produce the same cruise thrust as a GE90-94? The B737NG you can select the thrust model 7B22, 24, 27 etc on the MCDU if the airline ordered the option. In this case it washes out above a c...

Re: Engine Derates and top-of-climb power

I'm wondering whether an engine derated for regional power - A330 Regional for instance - also has lower power at the top of its climb. Or does the derate only apply to absolute thrust values, which would only be relevant in denser air and lower speeds such as at takeoff. I would guess derate doesn...

Re: Runway Incursion at JFK 1/13/23

Why not look both ways before crossing any runway? Sure, ATC cleared them to cross but verifying it’s safe to cross is a good procedure and habit for this very reason. We ALWAYS do this. Of course and always a good idea however at night even an approaching aircraft can easily blend into a ‘sea of l...

Re: US Airline Q4 Earnings Discussion

United posted its Q4 and full year 2022 numbers. Earnings call in the AM. https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/announcements/cision-125254 Fourth-Quarter Financial Results Net income of $843 million, adjusted net income1 of $811 million. Capacity down 9% compared to fourth-quarter 2019. Total oper...

Re: Runway Incursion at JFK 1/13/23

From the clips, I am 99% sure you are missing something crucial here - the voices changed between the ground controller and the local controller. Ground gave, and got a readback, of a 31L crossing at K - makes sense as the runway is only active from K and up, so they treat that crossing as pre-coor...

Re: Confusion over retro liveries

Nothing more confusing than Jet Blue painting one of their aircraft in a ‘retro’ livery that they never used ?


Sort of ‘if we had been around a long time ago this would have been our paint scheme’

Re: Confusion over retro liveries

Some of them should convert their whole fleet back to retro. Many current liveries are blah, hence United, American. I realize that modern airliners are no longer made of aluminum that can be nicely polished, but AA's polished skin with the longitudinal stripes is one of the best looking ever. http...

Re: Runway Incursion at JFK 1/13/23

I also wonder if the American Crew really didn't appreciate what had just happened. Otherwise, I have no idea how you could consider yourself fit for Duty. My brain would want to spend way too much time thinking about every aspect of what just occurred. And how could American's legal department or ...

Re: Runway Incursion at JFK 1/13/23

Boeing has been testing (on a 777 ironically) a TCAS like system for ground operations, it would warn of obstructions ahead of the aircraft whether it’s a fixed object like a building the wingtip won’t clear, a vehicle or an aircraft of course anywhere in the vicinity whether it’s on a taxiway, ramp...

Re: Is 1.12 hrs enough to transit at DFW for SFO-DFW-LHR itinerary?

If you’re asking you already know the answer !

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Deliveries - 2023

What exactly does a " rework " involve ? ( apologies if this has been explained before ). Rework involves remediation of any of a number of issues found during the 787 quality control audit and subsequent voluntary delivery pause. The most substantial of which involve fuselage & other...

Re: NASA acquires 777-200

I read that NASA really wanted an ex passenger 767 to replace the DC8, it would have given them more room with excellent range and endurance however there were none available as they’re all being snapped up for freighter conversion The 777 is quite a bit bigger than needed but at $30M a real bargain...

Re: What is the biggest altitude drop that a commercial airline has experienced during clear air turbulence?

Not sure what you’re saying here, if an aircraft climbs or descends rapidly or not and that is indicated by an conventional altimeter measuring static pressure it is not ‘staying where it is’ You're making the mistake of assuming pressure is static, which it isn't. Pressure is dynamic. Basically yo...

Re: Delta A330 Lands 6 Feet Short Of The Runway At Amsterdam

I’ve seen 747s and DC10’s circle to land on runway 29 at EWR which is 6500 feet long, not a problem if light enough with a decent headwind

Re: What is the biggest altitude drop that a commercial airline has experienced during clear air turbulence?

Not sure what you mean by ‘actual altitude’ aircraft Altimeters use static pressure to measure altitude above sea level That is exactly what I said, the altimeter measures pressure altitudes. It measures pressure and converts it to altitude using the standard atmosphere. So the reading is not the a...

Remaining 747 Classics

Just reading about a Classic with engine problems in Macau has me wondering how many are still actually flying ?

Re: FedEx DC-10 fleet

The Orbis plane is a MD-10, as is CP-2791 of TAB Cargo. Those are the only two examples not flying for FedEx (and both are ex-FX planes). Yep the Omega, 10 Tanker, and KC-10 jets are all 3 person cockpits. The KC-10s are on the way out also, down to half or less of the original fleet. When both the...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

How many people do you know who served brag about how many people they killed? Publishing it in a book was stupid? It’s not bragging if you really did it and the answer is more than one Curious if you served yourself ? Nope but my dad, uncle, cousin, grandfather and great uncles who did. Only one o...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Not everyone died in an air-to-air kill except for the plane. I imagine not all those that harry killed would be the foot soldiers of the Taliban, how many new terrorists has he created? All he has achieved is increased the security for him and his own family and members of the defence force for re...

Re: What is the biggest altitude drop that a commercial airline has experienced during clear air turbulence?

I’ve watched altimeters on cruise for thousands of hours—rarely more than 50’ on the worst CAT over mountain wave turbulence. Isn't the altimeter based on external armospheric pressure rather than actual altitude? So if you see a drop in pressure altitude of 15m, the actual drop in altitude above s...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Nope but my dad, uncle, cousin, grandfather and great uncles who did. Only one of my great uncles ever talked about his war, he was a mosquito bomber pilot, he had some great tales, his brothers wouldn't talk about there experiences. My wife two brother served, one in K force and the other did thre...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

How many people do you know who served brag about how many people they killed? Publishing it in a book was stupid? It’s not bragging if you really did it and the answer is more than one Curious if you served yourself ? Nope but my dad, uncle, cousin, grandfather and great uncles who did. Only one o...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Agree Some people are suggesting it was a way to get free extra security for his family as the ulterior motivation. Security can only do so much. He is certainly coming across as being not the sharpest tool in the toolbox Some people are idiots, fact is Harry served his country in combat and showed...

Re: What is the biggest altitude drop that a commercial airline has experienced during clear air turbulence?

Clear air turbulence has always been THE most terrifying type of turbulence to me, specifically because of those horror stories you hear about where the plane just suddenly drops in the sky, sometimes by a decent amount. Super scary, and I'm assuming those drops don't happen all that often, but I a...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

So, why even bring it up in the first place? https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-says-reports-he-boasted-about-killing-in-afghanistan-are-a-dangerous-lie/news-story/b0692a520cb5f3a1e9fe6be2a92c931c Shedding light on why he decided to share the details of his tim...

Re: The use of integral air stairs

It should be noted that the 727 required that the stairs be lowered for every flight as an anti-tipping method during loading and unloading. Some of the MD80s were the same. WIth both planes, you always had to load the front bins first because in old airline days, they loaded the passengers from th...

Re: US Airline Q4 Earnings Discussion

Well if I understand correctly UA with it’s gargantuan aircraft order will shortly go well past AA for total debt obligations I hope they’ve calculated correctly I was thinking about the same thing. I didn’t realize until now that they have like 713 (what??) aircraft on order! And that’s like > 80%...

Re: US Airline Q4 Earnings Discussion

Well if I understand correctly UA with it’s gargantuan aircraft order will shortly go well past AA for total debt obligations


I hope they’ve calculated correctly

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Really what abuse? All I see is normal family interactions that happen right across the world, just the argument differs their parents are not the only people who have committed adultery or have had fights i know of family freinds who sister had a fight with her brother and chopped his toes off wit...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Don't think the level of backlash would be there if they just left and went on their merry way without the talking to media to which he proclaims to be the reason of their problems But if he wants to use them, then he should and has to expect it will come back and bite him on the arse. Remember it'...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Don’t think people really care that he left the royal family or that Meghan could not handle that is their choice. But how they have conducted themselves while proclaiming the contributions to his mental health but at the same time using it for financial gain :liar: If they don’t care why are they ...

Re: UA 737 wing tip strike at LGA

They weren't aligned with the runway during flare out, is what I was pointing out. Didn't look like they were crabbing either based on the viewpoint. I don't mean the actual approach. I'm quite aware not all approaches are straight in. All approaches become straight-ins at some point to meet the st...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

Don’t think people really care that he left the royal family or that Meghan could not handle that is their choice. But how they have conducted themselves while proclaiming the contributions to his mental health but at the same time using it for financial gain :liar: If they don’t care why are they ...

Re: Harry's New Book 'Spare': Scuffle between Harry and Willie

The hatred, outright racism, intolerance and arrogance shown towards Harry and Meghan is pretty nauseating No one really seems to be able to clarify what it is they’ve done that is so awful Harry served his country honorably in combat in Afghanistan placing himself in great danger (unlike his broth...