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by Vctony
Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upcoming WN schedule extension on 8/30
Replies: 177
Views: 14667

Re: Upcoming WN schedule extension on 8/30

PHX - DTW and PHX-SDF are back to daily service.

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by Vctony
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 822
Views: 56560

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

You know I've been thinking. PHX-DTW only has 2 dedicated carriers on a route that is decently sized. F9 ended the nonstop a few years ago. Is it time for Spirit to step up to the plate? There's room for someone else on that route, especially with WN dropping it (at least for the winter as I don't ...

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by Vctony
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What would DAL be like if the gate cap went away?
Replies: 36
Views: 3538

Re: What would DAL be like if the gate cap went away?

DAL would end up looking like a cross between MDW and HOU with a slightly larger WN operation, a slightly larger DL operation, and probably not much else other than maybe F9, B6, or G4. I don't believe AA or UA would even bother with it and DL (and pretty much everyone else) will still have their co...

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by Vctony
Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 822
Views: 56560

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Lots of speculation in the AA earnings thread that PHX will experience some cuts by AA.

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by Vctony
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MCI thread - 2017
Replies: 100
Views: 8538

Re: MCI Happenings

"IF" BA enters the STL market, If memory serves me, AA stopped STL-MCI-STL back in 2003. It is possible to re-start that again. Not counting on it, but hey who knows. I'm sure AA would jump right into MCI-STL after not being able to sustain MCI-LGA :roll: They still fly NS to LGA from MCI...

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by Vctony
Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MCI thread - 2017
Replies: 100
Views: 8538

Re: MCI Happenings

You won't be seeing 777s landing at the airport JUST because you have a new terminal. But see this is the problem. So many people in KC have been made to think that a new terminal = airline hub and 777s to London. For the last few years, so many people have been saying this that it boggles my mind....

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by Vctony
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MCI thread - 2017
Replies: 100
Views: 8538

Re: MCI Happenings

Kansas just needs to build an airport on their side and be done with this. There was a proposal or two to build a new airport in south Johnson County on the Kansas side but they were basically laughed out of the room. The problem is that KC voters love their dump of a terminal too much (or don't us...

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by Vctony
Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: JetBlue using area codes for flight numbers
Replies: 19
Views: 1412

Re: JetBlue using area codes for flight numbers

AA had a PHX - LAS flight as flight 777 with 7 being a "lucky" number for slot machines.

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by Vctony
Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F9 adds MCO-PHX/MEM?
Replies: 10
Views: 1306

Re: F9 adds MCO-PHX/MEM?

It's somewhat interesting that PHX/AZA - MEM has 3 carriers (AA, F9, and G4) while PHX - BNA only has WN.

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by Vctony
Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN schedule extension 8/28/17
Replies: 365
Views: 38534

Re: WN schedule extension 8/28/17

Well in all fairness, they have added some unique routes from PHX (albeit on regional jets) so I'm not really sure that's any indication that they want to close the hub. Maybe "right size" but there's only so much they can do in LAX and it isn't like DFW had a plethora of room either. The...

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by Vctony
Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/20/2017: KX to ORD; AA Moves ZRH to PHL from JFK; AM Back Into DTW-MTY
Replies: 39
Views: 7976

Re: OAG Changes 8/20/2017: KX to ORD; AA Moves ZRH to PHL from JFK; AM Back Into DTW-MTY

AA LAX-HNL APR 5>4 AA LAX-LIH APR 3>1.6 AA ORD-SEA DEC 4>5 *AA PHL-SNN APR 0>0.9 *AA PHL-VCE APR 0>0.9 *AA PHL-ZRH MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>1.0 AA PHX-KOA APR 1.0>0.6 AA PHX-LIH APR 1.0>0.6 AA PIT-RDU SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 1.9>0.9 Seems like AA is cutting Hawaii services around the same time UA is expandi...

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by Vctony
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA invents new airport. "San Francisco Oakland"
Replies: 101
Views: 14450

Re: BA invents new airport. "San Francisco Oakland"

AZA/IWA has done the same thing. It's now Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport (even though it's about 20 - 30 miles from Phoenix city limits).

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by Vctony
Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL
Replies: 62
Views: 11381

Re: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL

tlecam wrote:
Enilria wrote:
DL LAX-BOS JAN 3>1.5 FEB 3>1.6


First time DL has run more than 1x daily between BOS and LAX in the winter.


For a "hub - hub" route, DL is really a bit player with less than 2 daily.

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by Vctony
Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Hubs you have flown through but not visited the city
Replies: 116
Views: 4573

Re: Hubs you have flown through but not visited the city

My list:

CDG
CLT
DEN
FCO
LHR
MXP
SLC

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by Vctony
Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A321 expansion
Replies: 59
Views: 13524

Re: DL A321 expansion

UGA777 wrote:
Why didn't they get the extra fuel tank capacity? Can that be added to future deliveries? With over 100 frames eventually in the fleet, not all of them will be doing short routes.


They have the 737-900ER to do the longer routes.

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by Vctony
Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American A321 sharklet retrofit?
Replies: 19
Views: 4904

Re: American A321 sharklet retrofit?

I was told by AA folks they cannot change to sharklets because of the wingspan it adds to the aircraft. Apparently the planes would not be able to fit at most of AA gates in PHX if they were converted. Does AA not currently fly 319S/321S aircraft into PHX? What is the overall wingspan increase with...

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:28 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: E-170/175 Motion Sickness Question
Replies: 32
Views: 4710

Re: E-170/175 Motion Sickness Question

I believe there are some physics involved that make tail engine aircraft yaw and pitch differently than wing mounted. Also noise and vibration are different if you sit up front on both. It could also be a matter of taxiing differences. I know that in the back of the long aircraft you get pushed sid...

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

I see a progression for IWA being: 1. ULCC 2. Regional jet to legacy hub 3. Small carrier based at airport offering Ejet-type service to regional business/leisure markets (not likely) Curious, what do people think of a comparison between MCO and SFB with PHX and IWA? Nobody seems interested in goin...

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US airline hub closures
Replies: 116
Views: 16109

Re: US airline hub closures

AA will probably scale back PHL and either PHX or LAX. This whole PHX is the most vulnerable hub argument is starting to get old. Here is a list of the top 25 metro areas in the US. Phoenix is #12. PHX has the O/D population to support a hub or large focus city. Rank Metropolitan Statistical Area 2...

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by Vctony
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Mainline Crew Bases
Replies: 22
Views: 7865

Re: American Mainline Crew Bases

I actually think that 738s are the largest single mainline fleet type out of PHX. There are more 738 departures than A319, A320, or A321 departures (although more total Airbus than 738 departures). In PHX its twofold. 1.) The 738s replaced A319 and A321 departures that freed up L-US A319s and A321s ...

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by Vctony
Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

It seems to me like AA would benefit more from the final concourse addition rather than SWA. I feel as if SWA is just being greedy with gates they don't seem to really need. They can barely fill the 24 gates they have now. They've been cutting service (down to 170 from the almost 220 they had a few...

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by Vctony
Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

I'm just wondering if any new Eagle routes will be added, last year they practically announced a new route every month or every other month, this year not so much. I'm sure as has been discussed that there are still some holes in the AA PHX network even on mainline such as Nashville, New Orleans, a...

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by Vctony
Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

The problem is, there's really no reason not to use Sky Harbor. KIWA doesn't offer much unless you live close to it. Which 2.5 million people do. WestJet seems to think it's worth it. Obviously that traffic isn't valuable enough to justify fragmenting the market. I doubt the BIg 4 gives two squats ...

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by Vctony
Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

One of the issues for INTL service for PHX is that the market demographic in PHX is so domestic heavy when compared with similar sized markets. Getting daily service to FRA and maybe 4x weekly service to Japan (Air Asia X perhaps?) would probably be about all PHX is going to get beyond some sort of...

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

The Fall AA schedule has some pretty brutal cuts.

DTW, MCI, and STL are down to 2x in September/October
MCO is down to 1x in September/October

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/2/2017: DL BOS-PIT, TP Suspends JFK-LIS, G4 RDU-SJU, 3M Shrinks
Replies: 76
Views: 13817

Re: OAG Changes 7/2/2017: DL BOS-PIT, TP Suspends JFK-LIS, G4 RDU-SJU, 3M Shrinks

What is the business case for "taking the hatchet fully" to PHL, a hub in a large, reasonably strong business market and arguably the only mega-hub in the northeast? I don't even think that there's a business case for "taking the hatchet fully" to PHX either. I think he was just...

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by Vctony
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/2/2017: DL BOS-PIT, TP Suspends JFK-LIS, G4 RDU-SJU, 3M Shrinks
Replies: 76
Views: 13817

Re: OAG Changes 7/2/2017: DL BOS-PIT, TP Suspends JFK-LIS, G4 RDU-SJU, 3M Shrinks

JFK they have taken full opertunity od the post merger world by right sizing and balancing there route map. DL was "blessed" with having several weak hubs they could close and use to grow elsewhere. UA had CLE which basically just staved off the RJ pilot shortage, and AA has yet to take t...

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by Vctony
Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN
Replies: 56
Views: 10755

Re: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN

AA has slowly been adding back some former HP markets (ASE, EUG, FSD, JAN, MEM, and MFR have had service reinstated recently with MEM upgraded from regional to mainline in fairly short order). They tried to re-start CLE but it didn't last. Remaining HP regional markets cut under US that AA hasn't a...

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by Vctony
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN
Replies: 56
Views: 10755

Re: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN

LIT and TUL make some sense (TUL moreso). However, with the latest Eagle additions it seems that COS, ICT, OKC, and YYC would make a bit more sense than any of these. Mainline BNA, MSY, and RDU seem to be the biggest holes and with WN cutting BNA and MSY it seems that AA could have some opportunity...

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by Vctony
Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737-7Max
Replies: 15
Views: 3717

Re: 737-7Max

737max8 wrote:
I'll be shocked if WN doesn't start to look at a different airplane for the less busy routes.

The -7 isn't going to be that airplane. The -7 will be for routes where the -8 isn't capable.


The CSeries seems like it's tailor made for WN if it's interested in operating a 2nd type of aircraft.

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by Vctony
Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN
Replies: 56
Views: 10755

Re: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN

WN PHX-ABQ JAN 7>6 FEB 7>6 WN PHX-BNA JAN 3>1.9 WN PHX-IND DEC 1.9>1.1 *WN PHX-LIT JAN 1.0>0.2 FEB 1.0>0 *WN PHX-MCI FEB 4>3 WN PHX-MCO DEC 1.6>1.2 WN PHX-MSY DEC 1.7>1.1 WN PHX-ONT JAN 6>7 FEB 6>7 WN PHX-SNA DEC 8>6 JAN 8>7 FEB 8>7 WN PHX-TUL DEC 3>1.5 Some big cuts for PHX. I wonder if F9 and/or ...

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by Vctony
Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN
Replies: 56
Views: 10755

Re: OAG Changes 6/25/2017:EK MCO Back to Daily;AA PHX-YEG in Winter;AM Drops MTY-DTW Adds LAX; WN

WN PHX-ABQ JAN 7>6 FEB 7>6 WN PHX-BNA JAN 3>1.9 WN PHX-IND DEC 1.9>1.1 *WN PHX-LIT JAN 1.0>0.2 FEB 1.0>0 *WN PHX-MCI FEB 4>3 WN PHX-MCO DEC 1.6>1.2 WN PHX-MSY DEC 1.7>1.1 WN PHX-ONT JAN 6>7 FEB 6>7 WN PHX-SNA DEC 8>6 JAN 8>7 FEB 8>7 WN PHX-TUL DEC 3>1.5 Some big cuts for PHX. I wonder if F9 and/or ...

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by Vctony
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX-SFO all Eagle now
Replies: 75
Views: 10533

Re: AA LAX-SFO all eagle now, sad face

grbauc wrote:
ldvaviation wrote:
Vctony wrote:
Very interesting...


In a way Mah and Nuts are both right.

Oh boy now I'm going go crazy waiting to know.


Maybe Eagle is going to TBIT.

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by Vctony
Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX-SFO all Eagle now
Replies: 75
Views: 10533

Re: AA LAX-SFO all eagle now, sad face

Did you ever stop for a moment and think that maybe somebody knows more about this than you? Wink wink So the Eagles Nest is staying? Or is it moving to T4? I thought that the long term plan had the Eagles Nest demolished to make way for future expansion (potentially T9). The Nest will ultimately g...

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by Vctony
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX-SFO all Eagle now
Replies: 75
Views: 10533

Re: AA LAX-SFO all eagle now, sad face

This is not correct. The eagle operation will not move to T5. That is correct and it will absolutely move to Terminal 5 as part of the announced $1.6B investment in T4/T5 by AA, which will relocate the remaining T5 tenants to elsewhere. Did you ever stop for a moment and think that maybe somebody k...

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by Vctony
Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant announces 3 new cities and 28 new routes
Replies: 47
Views: 9946

Re: Allegiant announces 3 new cities and 28 new routes

Midwestindy wrote:
I am surprised by the AZA adds, considering G4 hadn't expanded there in a while


Interestingly every AZA add is a route WN serves from PHX.

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by Vctony
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest VS Spirit (Low Cost VS Ultra Low Cost)
Replies: 79
Views: 12175

Re: Southwest VS Spirit (Low Cost VS Ultra Low Cost)

I actually don't mind Spirit. I know their business model and their pricing and I factor it into my equation. I still was able to get 2 tickets, 2 checked bags and 2 assigned seats from MCI - DTW last month for $75/person on Spirit. I got a Big Front Seat and a ticket from MCI - LAX last August for ...

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by Vctony
Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines expansion in Charlotte
Replies: 36
Views: 7842

Re: Southwest Airlines expansion in Charlotte

CLT-SFO is the largest market in the United States that is served nonstop by only 1 legacy airline, and Southwest has an opportunity to add CLT-OAK nonstop service. In addition, CLT-PHX is one of the largest markets in the United States that is served nonstop by only one 1 legacy airline, and South...

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by Vctony
Mon May 15, 2017 3:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New MCI Single Terminal Proposal
Replies: 91
Views: 13068

Re: New MCI Single Terminal Proposal

I was just in Terminal B and it is absolutely horrible. People crammed in tight spaces, two few baggage claims (and no space around them), no space at the checkin counters for the volume of traffic. It's really an embarrassment to an otherwise great city and metro area. The rental car center there i...

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by Vctony
Tue May 09, 2017 6:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN expanding in STL
Replies: 51
Views: 8813

Re: WN expanding in STL

upwardfacing wrote:
For WN is STL or MCI the larger station?


STL has about 20 - 30 more daily departures.

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by Vctony
Mon May 01, 2017 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/30/2017: DL Closes BGI, QR Delays LAS, 3M Drops RSW-NAS
Replies: 69
Views: 11356

Re: OAG Changes 4/30/2017: DL Closes BGI, QR Delays LAS, 3M Drops RSW-NAS

Wish AA would add PHX-RDU. PHX is the only AA Hub that does not have nonstop with RDU. I know WN has one seasonal nonstop, but AA could surely compete on this route as it does with all of the other WN overlap. RDU terminals can certainly handle one daily N/S. PHX - BNA, CLE, CVG, MSY, OKC, RDU, TUL...

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by Vctony
Mon May 01, 2017 5:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/30/2017: DL Closes BGI, QR Delays LAS, 3M Drops RSW-NAS
Replies: 69
Views: 11356

Re: OAG Changes 4/30/2017: DL Closes BGI, QR Delays LAS, 3M Drops RSW-NAS

Is this the first time AA will fly CLT-TUL / OKC 3x daily? Seems these routes are doing well! Both TUL/OKC were never flown by US metal in ages and ages. I think at one point OKC was linked to LIT using Fokker 28s, which made LIT look like a "mini" connector - you had Air Midwest flying 1...

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by Vctony
Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Compass Airlines relocating all pilots, other jobs to LAX & SEA
Replies: 69
Views: 11884

Re: Compass Airlines relocating all pilots, other jobs to LAX & SEA

With the closing MSP, it's a sure bet that they won't get east of there, for Delta at least. Which makes their SDF MX base more than useless, something has to replace it. Compass website. http://www.compassairline.com/careers/Pages/Maintenance.aspx I saw that they were opening the PHX base, my poin...

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by Vctony
Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

http://finance.yahoo.com/m/bd1867ff-6d9 ... drops.html
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AA has announced it will no longer charter the Cardinals.

Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/m/bd1867ff-6d9 ... drops.html

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by Vctony
Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Considers Far-Reaching Steps for ‘Extreme Vetting’
Replies: 50
Views: 3797

Re: Trump Administration Considers Far-Reaching Steps for ‘Extreme Vetting’

This has as snowball's chance in hell of actually being implemented.

I'd be concerned if this actually happened but I think the powers that be aren't stupid enough to do this.

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by Vctony
Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

http://www.azcentral.com/story/travel/a ... /99692538/

AA's CLT and DFW hubs have also seen passenger boardings decline.
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We've fallen to #11 in passenger boardings:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/travel/a ... /99692538/

AA's CLT and DFW hubs have also seen passenger boardings decline.

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by Vctony
Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest 2016 Onboard Stat Information
Replies: 21
Views: 2818

Re: Southwest 2016 Onboard Stat Information

While WN is strapped for planes at the moment, based on these numbers it looks like they have a lot of opportunity at BUF. DEN, DAL, and HOU look like no brainer routes, with the bay area also possible. Top 10 Unserved markets from BUF (PDEW from Q3 16) ⋅ SFO+OAK+SJC......179 ⋅ ...

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by Vctony
Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN Schedule Release 3/16/17 Predictions
Replies: 126
Views: 14585

Re: WN Schedule Release 3/16/17 Predictions

I've found the MAX8 on the following PHX routes.

PHX-BWI, PHX-LAX, PHX-MDW, PHX-MCO

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by Vctony
Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 73320

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

Are we sure WN is going to continue to occupy all of S3 and S4 once S1 is completed? It seems to me WN could move operations to S1, S2, and maybe trade some gates on S3 and/or S4 with carriers that currently are operating out of N4 to give them some international gates. The only station in the WN s...

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