Please help me understand. If it's not an easy task to organize labor at DL, isn't it because DL employees are not interested in union representation? Doesn't that mean that they feel (rightly or wrongly, but it's their choice) that they are better off without union representation? It could be that...Jump to post
And? This might be the silliest counterpoint you've posted yet. Lol. Right? The enemy of my enemy and all that? Interesting is an, um, "interesting" way to describe this meeting! https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-furious-delta-ceo-bastian-skipped-white-house-meeting-qatar-2019-7 "...Jump to post
They changed the policy some time ago-and the IAM stood by when it happened. There are ways around it if people want it badly enough. Stop making excuses. Wrong again. Delta has the right to set their advocacy policy, the IAM Legal Department did look into, there are precedent cases in this manner ...Jump to post
Stop with the misinformation. Cards for F/A's may be "rolling in," but not with enough volume to trigger a vote. Anecdotally, I see far more AFA pins than anything else. The "No way" page is anti any union- they just formed the page at merger time. There's also at least 2 pro-un...Jump to post
And the AFA has failed three times. And there is even a Facebook group “No Way AFA” And? This might be the silliest counterpoint you've posted yet. Well if there is a Facebook group then it’s all over. Lol. Right? So nothing new on the lawsuit today, but NBC News ran an interesting piece stating th...Jump to post
The A321neo will be taking over PHX-HNL.
This is already being discussed in the AA fleet thread
The F/A campaign is DOA. Look for some movement as soon as the AFA is able to campaign in earnest. And the AFA has failed three times. And there is even a Facebook group “No Way AFA” Well if there is a Facebook group then it’s all over. Well the AFA failed at Delta, not, once, not twice, but three ...Jump to post
Who said organizing was dead at Delta?
https://www.goiam.org/news/democratic-p ... nion-vote/
Tell the whole truth Hostess brands was killed by greedy executives, stop with the misinformation. Those unionized workers gave concessions after concessions. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/whos-to-blame-for-the-hostess-bankruptcy-wall-street-unions-or-carbs/265357/ nstead, the...Jump to post
DL gets away without a union because they don't treat their employees like dogs*it. AA does. AA is a highly punitive and discipline dominated culture. The employees at AA don't trust AA management (if you look at the track record, how can you blame them) and will never give up unionization as a res...Jump to post
And there are many articles that highlight how the Ready Reserve program is a win-win for both the employer and the employee. All this without unions, who knew? With no benefits, capped hours and replacing full time benefitted positions. Sure it’s a win for Delta, not employees. If the employees li...Jump to post
Doug is such a hypocrite, he says he wants to protect American jobs but outsources aircraft maintenance to Brazil, El Salvador, China and wants to increase foreign outsourcing.Jump to post
Which utilizes Ready Reserves in their GSE Department And there are many articles that highlight how the Ready Reserve program is a win-win for both the employer and the employee. All this without unions, who knew? With no benefits, capped hours and replacing full time benefitted positions. Sure it...Jump to post
FMLA is not unpaid, you can use your sick time, vacation or comp time. At LUS they forced you to use sick time, then vacation then comp time before you were unpaid. From the DOL. “Unpaid leave (Q) Is my employer required to pay me when I take FMLA leave? The FMLA only requires unpaid leave. However...Jump to post
They are negotiating separate contacts. They always have, Ramp has their own committee as does maintenance. They are different class and craft. They are asking for concessions from both groups. My point is that every statement that I have seen from the Association targets the entire group as a whol...Jump to post
The AA side does pay 21% of the cost but AA can increase the price of the premiums every year with no cap on the increase plus AA refuses to let the costs be audit. So for example say this year AA says the cost is $2,000 a month then the following year it can say cost $5,000 a month, there is not ca...Jump to post
"Core work" is simply fear-mongering by the Association. The irony is that it first appeared in an IAM negotiated contract at UAL. The IAMNPF is in trouble*. If the Association was smart, they'd decouple themselves from it, and figure out ways to move that "ask" into improvement...Jump to post
American Airlines Sued For Violating Sick Leave Laws The City of New York is taking American Airlines to court, saying that the carrier is illegally punishing workers when they get sick. According to the lawsuit, American Airlines is illegally retaliating against workers who call in sick under the c...Jump to post
http://www.twu555.org/wp-content/upload ... 160407.pdf
Page 46 of their CBA. They can bump junior employees etc.
And you all blame the unions, now you see how AA doesn’t care about its workers. https://apnews.com/f22148f70fe84c29933bcf709ee7433c This article give almost not information. All it says is there something going on. How would one know if its a union issue or airline issue? It’s not a union issue, i...Jump to post
The expiration date on the AA ex USAIR A330-300 fleet has arrived and gone. When are Charlotte and Philadelphia going to join my favorite addidge " If it's not a Boeing I am not Going". AA has a huge fleet of 787 but them seem to hate the east coast and love DFW, LAX & Chicago. I am c...Jump to post
This is not a good example and I fail to understand why you think it is. FMLA is a whole different category of leave taking with very strict guidelines on how it can be applied. By law FMLA is an unpaid leave, however, employers may choose to be more generous and allow employees on intermittent or ...Jump to post
Thank you for an actual example whereby someone might want to do that. It seems there are multiple people posting on this thread, and others, with personal experience who think that what they have observed or experienced is the only way to do things. This is not a good example and I fail to underst...Jump to post
And yes the list counts both groups as I was addressing the poster about separate negotiations. And the Association will not bring out one agreement, all four JCBA agreements must be done. It’s Mechanic and Related, Stock Clerks, Ramp and Maintenance Trainers. Most people don’t realize it’s four agr...Jump to post
An American Airlines flight was forced to divert and a number of cabin crew had to be rushed to hospital after a mysterious odour was detected onboard.
http://www.itravelapp.net/flight-forced ... ous-odour/
It really didnt address the following. the medical insurance issue, where the IAM side has vastly better insurance at a cheaper cost. AA wants to eliminate that, to extend that to all 30,000 Association members, it would cost AA $39 million. They also want to freeze the IAM side out of the IAMNPF an...Jump to post
It already exists at AA called OSM and at LUS they have some at PHX called interior mechanics.Jump to post
Which one of you can get a doctor's appointment to see him or her when you are sick? I know I have never been able to. I need at least 3-5 weeks lead time. Seriously? Man, you need a new doctor, stat! If I'm sick on a weekday, it's never a question of whether my primary care physician can see me th...Jump to post
WN has some smart and bright people working for them. I wouldn't worry too much as to how they conduct business. They have proven they can weather just about anything and I think their long-term future looks promising. I tend to disagree. In my opinion those "smart and bright people working fo...Jump to post
They are negotiating separate contacts. They always have, Ramp has their own committee as does maintenance. They are different class and craft. They are asking for concessions from both groups. They are asking for the following: 1. Increases of outsourcing and a loss of 2,200 Mechanic jobs in heavy ...Jump to post
UpNAWAy wrote:Bryan was an avoid Communist. Much like most Democrats and Organized Labor leaders of today. They are actually the working man's enemy.
DFR is one of the first things learned in steward training. It has value. Steelchair’s Point about the need for self-policing is maybe even more valuable. Having the guys on your unit hold you accountable goes a lot further than hearing it from a manager ever will. You can talk to a member till the...Jump to post
Very well said.Jump to post
Samuelsen is not the head of the Association, that would be Alex Garcia, an AA ramper, who was MIA 568 President and now at the International, and second in command of the TWU and Vice Chairman is Sito Pantoja, a former aircraft mechanic, who is General Vice President of Transportation of the IAM. S...Jump to post
So no unions have Profesional Standards groups for self policing? I have personally witnessed coddling of sick time abusers many times. Yeah, just because a union works with a company, there is still no guarantee. Stuff can always happen. There are no guarantees in life. I guess some people just ca...Jump to post
Boof, what if i said i was in a union? Would that somehow hold more water with you? You're so closed minded its unbelievable. Listen to the argument: a union can't save you in many scenarios. A union can negotiate a CBA and that may be helpful in some situations. But the big unions have been border...Jump to post
The apology you should be making is to all the actual AA employees for consistently peddling such a poor model of representation. It's they who are paying for it- not you or I. Who are you to judge? You don’t work their nor represented by the Association. Guys, cut it out please. Thanks. Boof raise...Jump to post