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by NG263
Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread

Just this morning there is an article in the German newspaper FAZ concerning Condor's financial results. Unfortunately this is only in the printed version, I did not find it online so far. EBIT of the last 10 years (operational profit): 2008: €57m 2009: €55m 2010: €61m 2011: €68m 2012: €45m 2013: €5...

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by NG263
Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

Just this morning there is an article in the German newspaper FAZ concerning Condor's financial results. Unfortunately this is only in the printed version, I did not find it online so far. EBIT of the last 10 years (operational profit): 2008: €57m 2009: €55m 2010: €61m 2011: €68m 2012: €45m 2013: €5...

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by NG263
Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

a quick read of DE history https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/so-hat-sich-die-fluggesellschaft-condor-entwickelt-16402884.html Thanks for sharing good read ❤ So was Condor profitable in recent years or not ? TCUK staff are insistent they were always told at group conferences that Condor was NOT...

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by NG263
Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

TCUK didnt operate A320s. And by “new” A321s do you mean the Monarch ones? Yes they went to TCUK, and then later on Condor got the WOW ones. But yes, TCUK had the youngest average fleet age at 10.25. Thomas Cook Balearics had the oldest at 17. No no, Seahawk is absolutely correct. Condor took the 2...

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by NG263
Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

And looking up Condor fleet age... Yikes... They need somebody, who will give them a fair number of new planes. Those 20+ year old fleets in A320, 757 and 767 cannot soldier on forever. Some planes are above 28 years, you can probably still squeeze some time out of them, but only so much... Do not ...

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by NG263
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread

TCAS seems to have two A333s and four A321s operating with another A321 coming back just now. Two other A321s seems to still maybe be affected by leasing issues since they operated a few flights yesterday but non today. There's currently also three Jettime and one GetJet 737 operating with DK-calls...

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by NG263
Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

Sooo...since DE is trying to leave the Thomas Cook group for good...if they survive this winter season and find a new owner/owners, they will need to ditch the sunny heart tail/ livery. Additional expenses that will eat into the profit/loan. Don't think so, for now they most probably just remove th...

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by NG263
Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 24912

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

It is just embarrassing to see how some people seem to blame Condor for the failure of TC. The airlines of the group are the ones least responsible for the failure. Thomas Cook has been starting to fall over the past years. The airlines made profit & the tour operator just took the money to pay ...

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by NG263
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread

Wonder what is going on in Palma at the moment. Several TC Scandinavia aircraft departed to Palma this morning but the return flights are shown as cancelled on FR24. Impounded? Includes 3 A321's: OY-TCF, -E &-I as well as 2 A333's: OY-VKG &-I. Anybody knows what's going on? FR24 shows the s...

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by NG263
Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread

Wonder what is going on in Palma at the moment. Several TC Scandinavia aircraft departed to Palma this morning but the return flights are shown as cancelled on FR24. Impounded? Includes 3 A321's: OY-TCF, -E &-I as well as 2 A333's: OY-VKG &-I. Anybody knows what's going on?

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by NG263
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Who will take Thomas Cook’s planes
Replies: 63
Views: 12234

Re: Who will take Thomas Cook’s planes

If we look at the former fleets of WOW and Air Berlin, the planes end up everywhere. A321s are popular in China and being used to displace A319s and 737-700s at slot controlled airports I hate these topics... Condor CONTINUES TO FLY, so no planes to be currently re-leased to other companies. And al...

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by NG263
Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Who will take Thomas Cook’s planes
Replies: 63
Views: 12234

Re: Who will take Thomas Cook’s planes

I hate these topics... Condor CONTINUES TO FLY, so no planes to be currently re-leased to other companies. And also because I read it everywhere: If Condor doesn't make it, the 767's will most probably not be converted to freighters: 1.too old 2.PW powered (GE preferred) & 3.(most importantly): ...

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by NG263
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread

With DE not being fully integrated with Thomas Cook, will DE repaint their fleet to the actual DE livery? A388 I'm pretty sure they are worried about other things at the moment. Depends on where Condor ends, if LH takes them up then I see quite a high chance of them getting a new updated Condor look.

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by NG263
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines News and Discussion Thread

Condor is sharing on social media now that they will continue their flight operation, hoping for the best (and LH).

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by NG263
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Uzbekistan Airways is putting up 18 aircraft for sale: 2 B757 (from 1999), 2 B767-300ER (from 2003-2004), 2 B767-300ER BCF (from 1996-1997), 7 IL-114-100 (from 1999-2013) and 7 IL-76TD (from 1982-1992). http://www.rusaviainsider.com/uzbekistan-airways-sell-off-older-aircraft/ 767 are PW powered, no...

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by NG263
Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

who knows maybe we will even see some Pratt powered conversions Yeah, while they're not extensive, they're out there. In the Amazon Air fleet, there are two at Atlas (1511A and 1619A), although there are none at ATI. In the ABX Air general-use fleet, there are 3 (219CY, 220CY, 226CY). Atlas also ha...

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by NG263
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 696
Views: 156945

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

According to skyliner, LN 315 P4-BDL was ferried from AMS to SBD. Does anyone have more infos about that airframe? It was first rumored to have been picked up by Somon Air but that has gone quiet. Skyliner lists it as registered to Globaljet Luxembourg. It had been in AMS for about 1 1/2 years now....

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by NG263
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 696
Views: 156945

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

According to skyliner, LN 315 P4-BDL was ferried from AMS to SBD. Does anyone have more infos about that airframe? It was first rumored to have been picked up by Somon Air but that has gone quiet. Skyliner lists it as registered to Globaljet Luxembourg. It had been in AMS for about 1 1/2 years now. ...

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by NG263
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1815
Views: 194202

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

VT-JGE - 32663 - Cargo Conversion - To Primeair as N5167A So the 2 cargo (confirmed?) conversions in your summary are this one and N855DM? VT-JBJ - 36551 - Stored as N551AG - Ferried Chicago Rockford, USA VT-JBK - 36553 - Stored as N553CG - Ferried Chicago Rockford, USA VT-JBB - 36846 - Stored as N...

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by NG263
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 49464

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

More movements of the -400 freighters: B-18705 was pulled out of storage at VCV after 7 1/2 years (!!!) & ferried to TPE. This was, besides B-18702 & 03, one of 3 -400F that China Airlines had been storing at VCV and seemingly always remained owned by them. Will be interesting to see what th...

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by NG263
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Future of Condor

If EasyJet or Lufthansa buy Conder I’m convinced it would be the end of the name. Lufthansa would probably just merge the airline into Eurowings and easyjet would just takeover the European operations and have no interest in the intercontinental operations. EasyJet, maybe... Lufthansa for sure not....

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by NG263
Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Future of Condor

The sale is currently on hold. Thomas Cook has secured new money from Fosun. But it is to be expected that the airline business will still be sold. Currently it is the goal to make the airlines more attractive as the old bids were not satisfactory for TC.

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by NG263
Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA
Replies: 31
Views: 11498

Re: Lufthansa A330 hit at FRA

Did not we just got over the news that one of the driver drove Air China plane to the grass? So first of all, this driver had a heart attack, but good job blaming him, would like to see you acting in such a situation. First do your research & then blame others. Thank you! Secondly, in general, ...

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by NG263
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA
Replies: 31
Views: 11498

Re: Lufthansa A330 hit at FRA

Did not we just got over the news that one of the driver drove Air China plane to the grass? So first of all, this driver had a heart attack, but good job blaming him, would like to see you acting in such a situation. First do your research & then blame others. Thank you! Secondly, in general, ...

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by NG263
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1815
Views: 194202

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The four 900ER's seem to have been picked up by Sky Up Airlines from Ukraine, according to planespotters.net

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by NG263
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines Selling Discussion Thread

As far as my Understanding goes, the Sale of the Airlines is just on Hold & will still happen in the (near?) future.

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by NG263
Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019
Replies: 93
Views: 23304

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

- According to Skyliner, one of the ex- JASDF 747-400 will be ferried to TLV for freighter conversion. This will be the first freighter conversion of a 747-400 in years, right? Not counting the Asiana B747-400M which was converted recently (that was already a Combi frame). Any more info about this?...

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by NG263
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines Selling Discussion Thread

Question for LH is whether to restructure a non working airline with unsure outcome (EW) or acquire a profitable working airline but invest into a complete new fleet (DE)

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by NG263
Fri May 17, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Are the engines still on it, because CF-6s even for parts might be worthwhile. I agree that lack of records will end up the doom of the airframe, but with all the freighter conversions lately there are plenty of parts that can get stripped, inspected, and put into the spares pool. Skyliner-aviation...

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by NG263
Fri May 17, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Atlas is operating 2 PW-engined 767-300Fs for Amazon (N1511A, N1619A) and one more in the passenger fleet (N662GT). ABX Air operates 3 (N219CY, N220CY, N226CY). That is really interesting, I didn't know that. Then I do really wonder why there are quite a few young PW birds at age 20-25 around and s...

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by NG263
Fri May 17, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Dutchy IMO, lack of maintenance records will be a deal breaker. Are the engines still on it, because CF-6s even for parts might be worthwhile. I agree that lack of records will end up the doom of the airframe, but with all the freighter conversions lately there are plenty of parts that can get stri...

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by NG263
Fri May 17, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines Selling Discussion Thread

There is something different between buying an airline and buying assets of an airline. These are all working airlines, some when bought may just operate as always just under another parent company. Air Berlin was bankrupt, of course they were split up.

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by NG263
Thu May 16, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines Selling Discussion Thread

Wikipedia, the most reliable source on the planet... 7 A320's, 3 A321's (+1 coming from Wow Air ex TF-GMA) & 15 757's (+1 eventually coming from Arkia, although it is not clear if this is still going to happen). Additionally TC Aviation operates 6 A321's for Condor (+2 coming from Germania/Germa...

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by NG263
Wed May 15, 2019 8:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 49464

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

National Airlines Cargo acquired a third -400 BCF, LN1023 ex CX as B-KAI and stored at Mariana since May 2013. Now Boeing must have had some good deals on these freighters as this is already the fourth one they sold recently. If I am correct that leaves Boeing with only one -400 converted freighter,...

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by NG263
Wed May 15, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Azur Air acquired yet another bird, C/N27477 LN780 VP-BRA Azur Air delivery 12-14may19 GYR-BGR-SAW ex 4X-EAL This one is one of the former El Al aircraft, a PW engined one, so most probably unwanted as a freighter. And they have one more to come LN853 as VQ-BEO ex Hawaiian as N581HA. There are a few...

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by NG263
Mon May 13, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines Selling Discussion Thread

I read somewhere that LH may be interested in reacquiring DE from Thomas Cook. If that was to happen, what would happen with the routes that clearly overlap with LH's network? One of the routes I'm thinking is DE's routes to SJO via SDQ and IIRC also SJU. LH is flying nonstop with its own metal so,...

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by NG263
Tue May 07, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: LH ready to take over DE

I can't say it too often, Thomas Cook is just the parent company behind Condor and that's it. Everybody in Germany knows Condor but not Thomas Cook. They operated for dozen years without Thomas Cook, so of course they are more than strong enough to be separate from TC. And sorry, it all got worse wi...

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by NG263
Fri May 03, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Lufthansa looking to (re)acquire Condor

But Condor isn't a leisure & charter carrier? (like TUI / Thomas Cook, Neos, etc) I don't think that Condor really can compete with Lufthansa, better, they do not have the same market, right? By the way flights on Condor are scheduled & bookable but AFAIK the majority of passengers are book...

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by NG263
Fri May 03, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Bankruptcy Discussion Thread
Replies: 1255
Views: 179848

Re: Lufthansa looking to (re)acquire Condor

Hopefully they wont sell it to LH. For Condor it would be the worst case, because LH just wants the slots for Eurowings. But nevertheless our German authority "Bundeskartellamt" wouldn't allow a takeover. I don't think that that is the case! Spohr knows that Condor's brand name is quite s...

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by NG263
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 49464

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Don't know if that is the best thread for it but I would say the most appropriate. I saw that 3 744(BCF)'s have found new owners. LN 852 & 921 ex-CX birds, that have been stored at Marana since about 6 years, were acquired by National Airlines LN853 ex-KE, also stored in Marana for 6 years now, ...

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by NG263
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Possible candidate for a future life with UPS is JA611J of JAL. According to planespotters.net it has been withdrawn from use in August 2018. Sister ships JA604J, JA605J & JA609J have already been converted for UPS.

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by NG263
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Boeing 767-33A 28140 LN850 VQ-BEN Azur Air N-reg canx 21feb19, delivery 27feb19 SAW-VKO exN580HA as per: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/skyliner.main?LC=nav1 Currently there are 3 more exHA birds in SAW: LN853, 857 & 423. Might be an indication that they are all going to Azur Air since they to...

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by NG263
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 696
Views: 156945

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

LN 149, HZ-MF7 Saudi Ministry of Finance has been delivered. Route: AFW-SNN & then onto RUH or DMM (?). This particular bird has been in VIP conversion since February 2014 (!). The second 787, LN 193 HZ-MF8 seems to be still in the conversion process. The aircraft can be seen on this shot while ...

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by NG263
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Fleet Thread - 2019
Replies: 154
Views: 31432

Re: Lufthansa Fleet Thread 2019

Why did LH transfer 1 A319 to LH Cityline? As the E190s & E195s will leave to Air Dolomiti, other aircraft have to be brought in to fill the gap. There are more to follow in the coming months. Will D-AILP and D-AILR get the new livery on transfer to CL? That's a pretty strange solution as both ...

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by NG263
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Last Azores Airlines A310 flight
Replies: 39
Views: 7122

Re: Last Azores Airlines A310 flight

Don't know if that is the right place to ask but I have always wondered if Sata International & Azores Airlines are different AOCs? Sata still has 2 A320s while Air Azores operates 1 A320, 2 A321neo & 1 A330(stored?). Are they one company or not? Do the same crews operate theses aircraft?

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by NG263
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thomas Cook Airlines “strategic review”
Replies: 65
Views: 14013

Re: Thomas Cook Airlines “strategic review”

The big question is if LH indeed plans to buy Condor, or parts of it, back what will they do with the brand? Condor is not only an airline in Germany but more like a symbol for holidays since many years. Remember when LH sold Condor to TC and they changed the name to Thomas Cook powered by Condor. T...

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by NG263
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Fleet Thread - 2019
Replies: 154
Views: 31432

Re: Lufthansa Fleet Thread 2019

DALCE wrote:
Why did LH transfer 1 A319 to LH Cityline?



As the E190s & E195s will leave to Air Dolomiti, other aircraft have to be brought in to fill the gap. There are more to follow in the coming months.

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by NG263
Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019
Replies: 339
Views: 67082

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2019

Hawaiian Airlines' final scheduled 763 passenger service is currently on its way to HNL right now (HA19 from SMF). HA has sent 3 frames to GYR over the last few days (N581HA, N582HA, N583HA). N594HA and N582HA should join them shortly. 594 is not going to GYR But it does appear that it's going to b...

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by NG263
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 49464

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Will the passengers production line of 747-8i be closed by the year, once they deliver the 2 AF1 jumbos ? For sure the Freighters will be available for couple of years to come, but the passengers are very uncertain Those frames have already been built and are stored at VCV awaiting their outfitting...

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