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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways has grounded 13 A350’s at the request of the Qatar Aviation regulator
Replies: 460
Views: 92508

Re: Qatar Airways has grounded 13 A350’s at the request of the Qatar Aviation regulator

However, it does not include the surface layer of the CFRP sandwich which covers and protects the copper mesh (the copper mesh is not visible on the raw CFRP sandwich surface). :?: What layer of CFRP on top of the copper mesh??? Also, note that we are talking about structural composite which are so...

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project
Replies: 301
Views: 88938

Re: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project

This news basically wraps the F-35 for Christmas

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380
Replies: 271
Views: 32666

Re: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380

Well with 245 posts already on a thread that has virturaly no new news except that the 779 was at DAS and did some amazing Air Show flying, the general gist is that the 77X is a POS that will never sell another copy and that Boeing should just cancel the plane here and now - because the A35X is SO s...

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 340 lands in Antarctica for the first time
Replies: 37
Views: 9749

Re: Airbus 340 lands in Atarctica for the first time

4 engines for cold places :box: :box:

Antarctica is a place where extra engines sounds quite nice.

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1817
Views: 304657

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

I have thoughts that Boeing 'teased' Airbus with the timing of this recent launch. If Boeing is in discussion with say UPS and FedEX over what they really want in a new build freighter, as well as the other current operators to optimize the 77xF for the current and predicted market, it may not hurt ...

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tecnam P2012 Traveller News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 149
Views: 32060

Re: Tecnam P2012 Traveller News and Discussion Thread

Anyone know what the production rate is for the Traveler, it seems to have picked up nicely.

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380
Replies: 271
Views: 32666

Re: 777X – VLA of the Future or another “White Elephant” A380

I'm looking at the long haul market, roughly taken as those routes a 767 cannot do with a practical passenger load. No 757's or A321's included. The 744 entered service in 1989, March 2007 Boeing stopped the passenger orders and 744 production ended in 2009 with 694 produced. This is an average prod...

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.
Replies: 116
Views: 18090

Re: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.

Comparison between the preliminary specifications of the Mammouth 777-200LRMF and the factory built B777F, according the Boeing ACAPS figures. The preliminary OEW is considerable(10.300 lbs) lower (caused by installation of composite floor beams i.s.o. the aluminium 777F beams ? ) than the actual O...

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 Value / State of the market
Replies: 34
Views: 4981

Re: A380 Value / State of the market

This thread : https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1460947&p=22794653&hilit=Valuation#p22794653 Has the values, bottom price listed is $18.6m Here are some snippets from that thread A350-900 - $77.0 - 149.0M, $450-1,030,000 A380 - $18.6 - 94.0M, $170-730,000 B777-300ER – ...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:38 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New Calidus B-350 attack aircraft unveiled at Dubai airshow
Replies: 24
Views: 2764

Re: New Calidus B-350 attack aircraft unveiled at Dubai airshow

Single fixed wing turboprops seem valid to me for the lower threat situations. It's clear various army and air forces are considering it or these wouldn't be popping up. But it seems to be a dozen ordered here, a dozen there kind of thing. If missiles are flying, these shouldn't be. I have to laugh ...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Other Manufacturers/Engine Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 45
Views: 13795

Re: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Other Manufacturers/Engine Orders and General Discussion Thread

IAI just received an order from emirates to convert 4 of their B777-300ER's to 777-300ERSF for emirates sky cargo https://www.iai.co.il/iai-to-convert-b777-300er-aircraft-to-cargo-for-emirates Do you know how many in total IAI has received orders for, it feels like it is in the high teens already.

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.
Replies: 116
Views: 18090

Re: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.

My point is that Mammoth will either be buying a design for the cargo door including all of the parts or designing their own. Would Boeing or IAI be supporting this conversion house, or is Mammoth going alone on this. IAI has the experience to establish design values of Boeing aircraft structure an...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:59 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-Z Recommendations
Replies: 27
Views: 2439

Re: KC-Z Recommendations

A Combo CMCA (cruise missile carrier aircraft) tanker would make a lot more sense than a stealthy smaller kerosene tank. This 3rd phase of the tanker requirements are probably quite up in the air right now. Your Combo CMCA or a blended wing body or conventional tanker is really unknown. The 2nd pha...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark hinting at a possible Emirates order review?
Replies: 83
Views: 15933

Re: Tim Clark hinting at a possible Emirates order review?

When the 77W was in certification there was little excitement around it and sales were certainly not hot. A few years after EIS, the 77W got a burst of orders, because the actual performance was better than anticipated. Several more years later, the 77W got another burst of new orders that were quit...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VN officially launches nonstop SGN-SFO scheduled service using the 787-9
Replies: 105
Views: 15265

Re: VN officially launches nonstop SGN-SFO scheduled service using the 787-9

I misread the headline, thinking "When did Southwest (WN) start flying the 789 internationally".

:cry2: :flamed: :box: :old:

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show
Replies: 416
Views: 70725

Re: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show

The 77F had a higher Maximum Landing Weight than the 77W or 77L did. I recall that Boeing adjusted the cycle and hour limits down that gave a significant boost to the MLW. So a lot more payload at the expense of the fuel weight carried. Boeing may now be waiting until the A350F specifications are fr...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.
Replies: 116
Views: 18090

Re: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.

It would be nice to see Mammoth pick up a number of orders. However, I would want to see several flying in service before I would order. The 777-200LRMF will be the ultimate orphan for a long time. The first in service will be Mammoth's first conversion, and the first 772LR converted. There may be ...

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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.
Replies: 116
Views: 18090

Re: Mammoth freighters launches new 777 P-F programs.

It would be nice to see Mammoth pick up a number of orders. However, I would want to see several flying in service before I would order. The 777-200LRMF will be the ultimate orphan for a long time. The first in service will be Mammoth's first conversion, and the first 772LR converted. There may be a...

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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 37739

Re: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

There may be some pickup of existing planes painted in other colors with this order. From the Boeing press release: Akasa Air will be the most dependable airline in India, offering efficient customer service, reliable operations, and affordable fares - all in the Akasa Way. Akasa Air's empathetic an...

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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News
Replies: 108
Views: 15734

Re: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News

I design composites regularly but usually in fiberglass not carbon, things like door openings depend mostly on the resin bonding rather than the type of fiber. Cutting in a door and designing the new door frame in composites is not a lot more complex or difficult than in metal, the exception is the ...

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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Eyeing BOI For Air Cargo Center
Replies: 13
Views: 1613

Re: Amazon Eyeing BOI For Air Cargo Center

Yes, just 30 KSF, it noted the Nampa facility is like 500 KSF. A building 150' x 200'. Adding better air delivery to how they have been doing it to date.

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Airbus Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 163
Views: 50400

Re: Dubai Air Show 2021 - Airbus Orders and General Discussion Thread

You can announce an order 3 times: - When the LOI is signed - When the President makes a visit and announce a new "deal of the century" - When the order is signed Mainstream medias are not competent enough to look at the orders Excel file (And they can make 3 click baits for a single deal...

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:23 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: B-52 wing design question
Replies: 10
Views: 1263

Re: B-52 wing design question

There were what was called computers in the 50's, but they were basically large calculators. That kept growing, but in '77 I was docked $50 for not using 360K of memory I asked for in my program run, the next card killed the run so they didn't charge me. They would have been frantic to get 16K of me...

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News
Replies: 108
Views: 15734

Re: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News

Every big program of every manufacturer is made with freighter variants and conversions in mind from the very beginning. So Boeing has considered this when defining the production system and structure without question. Do you know this for a fact or just speculating? I think speculating. It would b...

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:07 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Cruise Missiles
Replies: 52
Views: 3166

Re: Cruise Missiles

A decade ago I was within a large room with a map of the pacific, just like flightaware but for ships. It had every US boomer located, as well as many foreign subs, along with an amazing amount of surface ships, it didn't show smaller craft probably has a threshold. Once a ship has been detected, th...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing accepting liability for Ethiopian 737 Max Crash
Replies: 8
Views: 1808

Re: Boeing accepting liability for Ethiopian 737 Max Crash

This appears to be one of many settlements that have occurred. 2019 Lion Air partial case settlement - https://www.dw.com/en/boeing-settles-first-lawsuit-with-737-max-crash-families/a-50587098 2019 some cases settled https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/11/17/boeing-737-max-lawsuits-settlements-lion-ai...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News
Replies: 108
Views: 15734

Re: The 787 doesn’t lend itself well to a freighter says Leeham News

It is possible that Boeing designed the 787 optimized as a passenger plane, it does have relatively low % OEW to MTOW, which hints at this optimization. New build freighters would be relatively easy to include the cargo door frame into barrels, but this can be designed with the freighter variant in ...

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by JayinKitsap
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Once aviation demand recovers in Asia (if it ever does), where will NRT see growth?
Replies: 4
Views: 475

Re: Once aviation demand recovers in Asia (if it ever does), where will NRT see growth?

NRT was a major hub in the past, North America flew to here, then the next flight further into Asia. Now with the 77W, 787, A330, and A350 all having much more range a lot of flights are bypassing NRT. At least for North America carriers, like Delta, NRT activity was clearly dropping well before Cov...

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways has grounded 13 A350’s at the request of the Qatar Aviation regulator
Replies: 460
Views: 92508

Re: Qatar Airways has grounded 13 A350’s at the request of the Qatar Aviation regulator

My information is that it is not a coating issue - see the previous pages in this thread. Its degradation of at least the surface layer of the CFRP itself; and in the case of QR it showed up rather early (I doubt that QR would be that concerned if it showed up well beyond a decade after being in se...

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021
Replies: 1246
Views: 174380

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021

When did non-FADEC engines stop being put onto new planes, verses spares?

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:19 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: ETA of when Southwest would start red-eyes?
Replies: 24
Views: 2241

Re: ETA of when Southwest would start red-eyes?

Red eyes can readily be done, I've been on far too many. Possibly WN has figured out that the crew and passengers don't really like them so compose their schedules accordingly.

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 338
Views: 22490

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

For Australia, what makes sense is to procure subs that are in production, the cost and time to develop a new class, as was happening with the French subs, is far too much. Australia was facing the cost of diesel subs being much higher than either the Astute or Virginia. This makes sense, but domes...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 338
Views: 22490

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

The Virginia class is in ongoing production while the Astute I believe has completed its class of boats. Certainly it can be restarted but easier to just join in, AKA like the P-8 is doing now. The Virginia reactor only recently transitioned from one mid-life refueling to a single fueling for the l...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:25 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 338
Views: 22490

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

The Virginia class is in ongoing production while the Astute I believe has completed its class of boats. Certainly it can be restarted but easier to just join in, AKA like the P-8 is doing now. The Virginia reactor only recently transitioned from one mid-life refueling to a single fueling for the li...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 869
Views: 191346

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1453547579522707456?s=20 Boeing confirms 777X Dubai Airshow Appearance Just dreaming but I would love the 779 to do this test flight over the airshow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_khhzuFlE https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/60-years-ago-the-famous-...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 2767
Views: 392533

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

The lease rate for 4 to 5 months of flying would offset a good bit of the extra cost, not flying the plane elsewhere to get painted saves that expense and the wait at the painters. If there are looming contract dates too it make's the price difference less painful than not meeting delivery.

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021
Replies: 1246
Views: 174380

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021

Per a press release today, ATSG has contracted with Boeing for the conversion of four 763 BCF freighters. Unsure about who the customer may be, or the timeline. An article link https://www.aerotechnews.com/blog/2021/11/03/atsg-chooses-boeing-for-converted-freighter-order/ So this is the first ATSG ...

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show
Replies: 416
Views: 70725

Re: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show

https://leehamnews.com/2018/12/06/is-th ... 777-300er/



Comparing orders to orders, the 77W appears to have done well
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Strato2 wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
The A380 lost to the 777-300ER on fuel burn per payload.

Lightsaber


Not when comparing apples to apples.

https://leehamnews.com/2018/12/06/is-th ... 777-300er/



Comparing orders to orders, the 77W appears to have done well

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by JayinKitsap
Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show
Replies: 416
Views: 70725

Re: Boeing tipped to launch 777X freighter at Dubai Air Show

It's so funny to see some of you quibble over literally 1 foot (229' vs 230'). Airframe designers don't quibble over just 1 foot. In this case they quibble over frame spacing which for Boeing aircraft, I believe for the most part, is 20 inches, or 1.6666 feet. :box: bt If they have done the design ...

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by JayinKitsap
Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US wants even more advanced training aircraft
Replies: 35
Views: 3740

Re: US wants even more advanced training aircraft

Not sure training pilots the way we always have is the right way to train them going forward. Probably a better way to do this that doesn’t require carrier qual as part of Advanced Flight but smarter heads than me can figure that out, and may have… The touch and go is an important step, probably th...

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus blasted by leasing companies over plans to lift jet production
Replies: 208
Views: 26475

Re: Airbus blasted by leasing companies over plans to lift jet production

Lessors are buying assets with 20+ year life and then renting out, while holding debt, not unlike a mortgage. Most debt is shorter term, in an inflationary economy rates will rise fast. Bee there, done that. First house in '83 was at 17.5%, my current one is. 3%. No one buys 500 k houses at 17% its ...

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:03 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: RR Will Provide Jet Engines For The B-52 Re-engine
Replies: 310
Views: 65744

Re: Updated: RR Will Provide Jet Engines For The B-52 Re-engine

Period during which a protest would have to be filed has apparently passed. Good news! https://twitter.com/aviation_intel/status/1453490367408467968?s=21 The Air Force Magazine article on the same https://www.airforcemag.com/no-protests-in-b-52-re-engining-award-to-rolls-royce/ RR bid 2.6B for 650 ...

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End
Replies: 191
Views: 29837

Re: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End

I don't have sophisticated programs to evaluate the A380, but I follow a quite reliable substitute - following what airlines actually get ordered. LH knows aviation backwards and forwards, they chose both the 748i and the A380, while keeping the 748's in service while retiring a number of A380's. Du...

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by JayinKitsap
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:25 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US wants even more advanced training aircraft
Replies: 35
Views: 3740

Re: US wants even more advanced training aircraft

I think this is a big mistake the Navy is making. It’s classic “skip on the front end (training), pay on the back end (accidents with combat aircraft).” Not sure training pilots the way we always have is the right way to train them going forward. Probably a better way to do this that doesn’t requir...

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by JayinKitsap
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus blasted by leasing companies over plans to lift jet production
Replies: 208
Views: 26475

Re: Airbus blasted by leasing companies over plans to lift jet production

Energy prices are rising, which is a huge chunk of airline cost, but also affects consumer demand. Rising ticket prices when the heating bill went crazy reduces demand. Inflation is rising fast, in particular in commodities. I would expect the contracts have some agreed to price escalator, so the co...

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:53 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 129
Views: 26049

Re: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PO5Ly3WXAs
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A new MQ-25 video from Boeing. I think there are some changes, initially the signaller's batons were to give the signals to the drone, now it is back to the standard signaller with a 2nd person having the remote control. Probably far more reliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PO5Ly3WXAs

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:12 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US wants even more advanced training aircraft
Replies: 35
Views: 3740

Re: US wants even more advanced training aircraft

You have to know that Boeing was planning to replace the T-45 (its own product - with BAe) at some point. What do you want to bet that preliminary designs were done on a T-7 with arrestor hook long ago? Perhaps not to any level of detail, but enough that they would have some idea of hardware placem...

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by JayinKitsap
Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 2767
Views: 392533

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Well with the supply chain issues this year, I went ahead and shopped for my 5 grand kids. Everything I wanted was available and coming via Amazon, I think it will be crazy to be ordering in mid December.

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:04 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US wants even more advanced training aircraft
Replies: 35
Views: 3740

Re: US wants even more advanced training aircraft

This is an RFP for the 2nd stage trainer, the T-7A is the selected 1st stage trainer. It is enough different - hard points, possibly a gun, and different mission sets that a RFP is required. I am 100% positive that Boeing will be proposing a T-7A variant for this and they are in the post position o...

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by JayinKitsap
Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:45 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US wants even more advanced training aircraft
Replies: 35
Views: 3740

Re: US wants even more advanced training aircraft

This is an RFP for the 2nd stage trainer, the T-7A is the selected 1st stage trainer. It is enough different - hard points, possibly a gun, and different mission sets that a RFP is required. I am 100% positive that Boeing will be proposing a T-7A variant for this and they are in the post position on...

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