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by jagraham
Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

So I guess the Freighter will likely be based on the -9X instead of the -8X? Or the -8X becomes solely a Freighter once 777F orders dwindle to the point a production shift becomes viable? The 777-8 makes the most sense as a replacement for the 777 Freighter. 777 Freighter sales are still decent at ...

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by jagraham
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta pilots file objection to expanded JVs
Replies: 94
Views: 8632

Re: Delta pilots file objection to expanded JVs

This scope issue is actually quite complicated - DL invested in VS and had VS do less flying to Asia and more flying to JFK. After all, JFK - LHR is the most profitable city pair. DL/VS is still #3, but without VS, DL was barely a blip - Revenue is going up, losses are minimal. Profit is expected to...

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by jagraham
Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66866

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Something is still missing . . an engine can be changed in less than a day . . if it was premature wear, the initial flight test could be done with six engines. One pair flying, one pair being disassembled, one pair being reassembled. The FADEC could be programmed to not permit max thrust. They cou...

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by jagraham
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skyteam TATL 2020?
Replies: 61
Views: 7516

Re: Skyteam TATL 2020?

TLV-ATL is 6437 miles. Edge of the range for a DL 763 or A332. So that could happen. But I expect a couple more direct flights, such as PRG and VIE. But DL has more pressing needs TPAC. They won't just abandon SIN. And no, a connection through ICN via KE won't do for that market. So I see some 77Ls ...

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by jagraham
Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

?? The MTOW of the 77L was only 4t less, before the update. 4t out of 351t does not a new wing make. Clarification please! Fuel weight in the wing would most likely put less load on the wing than fuselage weight. The weight of the fuel is actually reducing the wing flex. So it makes sense that the ...

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by jagraham
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 111
Views: 25646

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

NZ have just done a full analysis on what the the 78J can do. Luxon says the new fleet will mostly be used on Asian routes. And that they will be looking at the 35K/77X when they look at a 77W replacement. Sounds to me as if they have a pretty good idea what the 78J can and can't do. And that that ...

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by jagraham
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

I have always believed from.an engineering viewpoint that when there are two fuselage lengths in a family that have extremely high commonality that the shorter aircraft should be able to have a higher MTOW. The shorter aircraft should also have a much greater max payload weight as both aircraft sho...

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by jagraham
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 111
Views: 25646

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

AFAIK this is only A.net official. Based on a reference on the Air New Zealand order. There is the Aircurrent report, but many a.netters don't consider Ostower "official". But so far, it's the ANZ order which indicates something better is coming in 787 land. Will it be 260t? I don't know....

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by jagraham
Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 111
Views: 25646

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

There is a 260 t variant coming. More than an hour more flight time all other things being equal. About 7000 nm. Is that already official announced, or A.net “official”? AFAIK this is only A.net official. Based on a reference on the Air New Zealand order. There is the Aircurrent report, but many a....

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by jagraham
Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 111
Views: 25646

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

6430 nm is for 330 pax and bags. And 254t MTOW.

There is a 260 t variant coming. More than an hour more flight time all other things being equal. About 7000 nm.

More of Asia will be reachable from the US. Much more if 330 pax aren’t necessary.

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by jagraham
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 550
Views: 123408

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

From Leeham, suggests the 14 per month rate may prove over-optimistic soon: "There are clear signs of challenges, both near- and medium-term for the 787. Summary Weak customers threaten to create deferred deliveries near-term. There will be about 20 A330s and 777s coming off lease each year fr...

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by jagraham
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66866

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Something is still missing . . an engine can be changed in less than a day . . if it was premature wear, the initial flight test could be done with six engines. One pair flying, one pair being disassembled, one pair being reassembled. The FADEC could be programmed to not permit max thrust. They cou...

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by jagraham
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 143
Views: 35428

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

So what is the nearest to reality scenario for this jumbo ? It was for sale for long time , no buyer!! I wonder who is paying for the parking? It is taking a massive space and the bill should be big to park it there. Saudi government turned to twin engine fleet, they have 787s and 77W as a new repl...

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by jagraham
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66866

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Something is still missing . . an engine can be changed in less than a day . . if it was premature wear, the initial flight test could be done with six engines. One pair flying, one pair being disassembled, one pair being reassembled. The FADEC could be programmed to not permit max thrust. They coul...

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by jagraham
Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

778 is derivate of 779 not 77W. 779 OEW 181t, 14t more then 77W while is 2.9 m longer! 778 is 3.9 m shorter then 7W and 6.6 m shorter then 779. Wing and engines have same weight, so calculate weight per fuselage meter has no sense! 778 and 779 are 777s. And like the Longer Range 777 family (77F / 7...

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by jagraham
Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

778 OEW estimation is around 167 t and A35k is around 150t! On a photo from CX A35k there is label with OEW 148 900kg on the pedestal. Cheers The 77W OEW is 167.8t. The 778 is 5m shorter than the 77W. At 2.3t/m, the 778 will be at least 11t less than the 77W before wings (going to composites should...

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by jagraham
Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

778 OEW estimation is around 167 t and A35k is around 150t! On a photo from CX A35k there is label with OEW 148 900kg on the pedestal. Cheers The 77W OEW is 167.8t. The 778 is 5m shorter than the 77W. At 2.3t/m, the 778 will be at least 11t less than the 77W before wings (going to composites should...

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by jagraham
Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

You must mean CASM, no way will a 778 ever beat the A35K on trip cost. It's MTOW is 30+ Tons heavier. 778 would be flying off the shelves if airlines believed this. More capable and more efficient rarely happens in aircraft of the same generation, there is always a trade off.. I mean trip costs. Fo...

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by jagraham
Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Good points, however, the 778 is now benchmarked against the A35K, not the 77W. The A35K is a great plane (maybe too great; new charts have come out and they suggest that the A35K has equal trip fuel to an A359 despite the A35K being heavier and having higher thrust engines of the same technology (...

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by jagraham
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The 778 is better than the 77W at anything the 77W does except for ULD positions. The mentality is causing the 778 to get off to a slow start, but in the end the 778 will be fine. As far as EK, they still have their 10 77Ls according to Airfleets. And there is a reason for that. The 778 will replac...

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by jagraham
Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 104
Views: 17237

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

I agree the 75S planes are the youngest 757s and DL may fly them till 2025 or so . . but the A321XLR can be ordered now. If DL is waiting for something from Airbus, it can't be the A321XLR any longer.

It does need to be said that DL is excellent with subfleets . . .

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by jagraham
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129330

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The 778 is better than the 77W at anything the 77W does except for ULD positions. The mentality is causing the 778 to get off to a slow start, but in the end the 778 will be fine. As far as EK, they still have their 10 77Ls according to Airfleets. And there is a reason for that. The 778 will replace...

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by jagraham
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 104
Views: 17237

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2019

I recently listened to the Network VP lecture, and was able to chat with directly. I see a lot of things debated here, thought this might help: 767-300ER retirements from 2025-2030, but really want to retire them earlier than that so they don’t have to do a cabin refurb. Anxious for solution from B...

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by jagraham
Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Cargo considers retiring all MD-11s in 2020
Replies: 41
Views: 8149

Re: Lufthansa Cargo considers retiring all MD-11s in 2020

Boeing is always interested in helping operators prolong the life of aircraft they are responsible for ;) The question is, at what cost? As far as air freight itself, the long term trend is up. Air freight powers internet commerce. And with Amazon moving Prime to next day (which requires air shipmen...

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by jagraham
Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing falsified records for a 787 sold to AC
Replies: 92
Views: 26070

Re: Boeing falsified records for a 787 sold to AC

I'm finding all of this hard to believe... I just find it outrageous that the manufacturer of some of the world's most advanced vehicles can make so many mistakes like this. First the 737, then the 787, now the 787 again... That being said, I find it interesting that we are having a sudden surge of...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Last I checked, MCO and TPA drive a far greater share of DL revenue than RDU, BNA, AUS. Delta breaks down revenue by market and makes it public? Where did you find this? I’ve only seen it broken down by geographic markets/regions: domestic, Atlantic, Latin America and Pacific. It's publicly availab...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Because Delta (DL) has not canceled NRT-SIN?
Replies: 83
Views: 12563

Re: Because Delta (DL) has not canceled NRT-SIN?

Will SIN be enough for DL to dedicate some 77Ls to it like they did with JFK-BOM?

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by jagraham
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Airbus does it too; no major carrier has 316 seats on an A359; yet that is the number Airbus uses to figure out seat-mile fuel consumption. There is a little airline in Asia called Thai that has 321 seats in their A350-900 There is also this airline that operates out of a particularly high altitude...

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by jagraham
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

That's a pretty low bar..... 3x daily service to 5 hubs is 15 daily flights..... Yes. But like MSY, there will be a hub or two with much more than 3 flights. MSY has 11 flights to ATL at this time; add 12 flights to 4 other hubs and 1 flight to 2 hubs, you have 25 flights. Which is what MSY has. No...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

You are missing the 3 daily LAX, 3 daily JFK, 3 daily LGA, 3 daily DTW, daily SLC, and weekly seasonal CUN. Just FYI. One would think 3x or more service to 5 hubs would be a focus city . . That's a pretty low bar..... 3x daily service to 5 hubs is 15 daily flights..... Yes. But like MSY, there will...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

How many aircraft is this requirement and how many other customers will jump on it? ~25 aircraft 3 operators over 15 years? Technically there are possibilities. Airbus and Boeing however don't want to go deeply non recurring & Qantas doesn't want to pay the price.. A350-900 XLR, merging A350-10...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

I agree with you. My point is that the definition of focus city can't just mean frequency of flights to hubs... there has to be something else to it, either P2P or a much larger number of flights or both. As for proximity to ATL, I agree with you on that also, but note that the distance between DFW...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

How many aircraft is this requirement and how many other customers will jump on it? ~25 aircraft 3 operators over 15 years? Technically there are possibilities. Airbus and Boeing however don't want to go deeply non recurring & Qantas doesn't want to pay the price.. A350-900 XLR, merging A350-10...

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by jagraham
Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Boeing's website says the 778 will be 4% better than the A35J. I guess it must be true then. But what if Airbus's website says the A35J is more efficient than the 778? Who to believe then? :spin: So 777-8 is both more efficient and more capable than A35J. Sure, if you only read Boeing's website and...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

If 9500 nmi is the range required for LHR <-> SYD, I don't see 35K could ever possibly meet this requirement. What kind of MTOW it needs? Seems to be more than 330 t, which I doubt it is technically possible. 778 is the only player in the game now. Airbus does not agree with your assessment: See ​A...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

By that measure, wouldn't MSY be a focus city? It has multi-frequencies to all hubs except SEA.... DL is falling behind, though, as AA is now the largest legacy carrier at MSY and UA is building a club that will be larger than DL's SkyClub, which I guess means they intend to add service once the ne...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

DL views focus cities as having frequent service to most hubs. P2P doesn't factor into Delta calculations. By that measure, wouldn't MSY be a focus city? It has multi-frequencies to all hubs except SEA.... DL is falling behind, though, as AA is now the largest legacy carrier at MSY and UA is buildi...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Once upon a time, US airlines were regional. Strong in some places, weak in others. Since all the mergers, there are now 4 mega airlines (AA, DL, UA, WN). They compete with each other everywhere. Corporate consolidation has increased this competition since fewer, larger corporations mean business tr...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Delta’s use of the term, “focus city” is not what people on here want it to be. It is not a “mini hub” with lots of flights to Delta hubs, a bunch of non-hub flights and a handful of international routes. From Delta’s perspective it is a “focus city” because it’s a market where Delta believes there...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

The 779 is 181,400 kg QEW and 77 m The 77W is 167829 kg OEW and 74 m long, while the 77L is 145150 kg OEW and 64 m long. 22769 kg for 10 m, or 2277 kg / m The 778 is 7 m shorter than the 779. At 2277 kg / m, the 778 will be 15939 kg less, or 165461 kg. Approximately. But in any case, about 10000 kg...

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by jagraham
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

The 779 is 181,400 kg QEW and 77 m The 77W is 167829 kg OEW and 74 m long, while the 77L is 145150 kg OEW and 64 m long. 22769 kg for 10 m, or 2277 kg / m The 778 is 7 m shorter than the 779. At 2277 kg / m, the 778 will be 15939 kg less, or 165461 kg. Approximately. But in any case, about 10000 kg...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Because JFK is slot restricted, I’d be surprised if all of the thinner JFK routes didn’t move to BOS, with BOS-JFK moving to all mainline. This is a case of: we love NY but it’s crowded. This is similar to UA at EWR (except gate constraints), where that’s becoming increasingly mainline. DL can't mo...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41404

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

"Delta is also reclassifying some of its smaller cities as focus cities. Nashville and San Jose, California, have joined its list of domestic focus operations that also includes Austin, Cincinnati and Raleigh/Durham" Much ado about nothing... I'm curious as to DL's definition of "foc...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 53103

Re: RUMOR: American to order A321LR

Google search, A321lr range That’s a MAX range, not a practical range hence why I said IF they operate that route on an A321lr, which obviously, I doubt they will. It was an example of how far it can reach as that guy was asking... Ranges less than 3000 nm don't need an A321LR and its deactivated f...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 53103

Re: RUMOR: American to order A321LR

With a max 4,000 nmi, it can reach up to CLT-ZRH, but with winds it would need to be weight restricted IF they operate something that long. Where did you come up with 4,000nm as practical range? Here it's generally accepted that LRs have less range than 757s (the can cover about 95% of missions lan...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Declining loads on QR's IAD route
Replies: 22
Views: 4483

Re: Declining loads on QR's IAD route

What makes QR so dubious on filling the paid J class? I thought this would be a relatively easy task, given that the US economy is booming at the moment, and that the DC metro area is currently the fifth largest economy in the nation. And I did notice that pattern on their other US routes. But the ...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Assuming the A350-1000ULR's fuel capacity is raised to the 165,000 liters of the A350-900ULR, that is 129,500kg using Airbus' 0.7855kg per liter value from their ACAPs. That leaves 186,500kg for structure and payload at a 316,000kg TOW. If we're thinking a 30,000kg payload, then that leaves 156,500...

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by jagraham
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Where can I find the updated range figure? Boeing website still shows the 8,690 nmi figure... For now, the increased range is in the Aircurrent reporting. If 9500 nmi is the range required for LHR <-> SYD, I don't see 35K could ever possibly meet this requirement. What kind of MTOW it needs? Seems ...

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by jagraham
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

Boeing upped the fuel from about 48900 gal (185000 l) to 52300 gal (198000 l) several months back without fanfare. And without changing the range spec. Until now. Where can I find the updated range figure? Boeing website still shows the 8,690 nmi figure... For now, the increased range is in the Air...

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by jagraham
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1467
Views: 265322

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

What improvement does it mention for a 778? More than 9500nm in the new B778 range...... Back in 2012, Boeing was considering adding a third member to the 777X family: the 777-8LX with a mission range of 17,500km / 9500nm. This originally would have been done by giving the 777-8LX the same MTOW (34...

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