If Boeing were to design a folding wing for the 797, how expensive would it be to design a second wing option of the same size that doesn't fold?Jump to post
Assuming Boeing is shooting for a 2025ish launch...what/when would the next step be? When do we get to see what this airplane (797, 757-MAX, 737-MAX666) is going to look like? The program launch might be next year. I imagine we'll see some mockup a then. It won't be anything like a 757, 737, or any...Jump to post
Are we sure the 797 will be MOM ? Couldn't it just be a 737 replacement, without all the 737 limitations ? A 737 replacement is likely a decade or so away. This new airplane, presumably the 797, will be the MoM. It will be a small twin aisle ovoid aircraft. It will have a carbon fiber fuselage and ...Jump to post
I think jetsuitex has mentioned starting service at Morristown. I think teb is not out of realm of possibility for them. It's not happening. The issue is not just the limitations of area airports. It's also about the limited amount of airspace. Another commercial airport right smack in the middle t...Jump to post
LamboAston wrote:And it is AAB we are talking about here. He has a big mouth
LAXintl wrote:Will be interesting to watch this and see where things go with AA.
I do wonder what path CZ will take longer term, whether it maintains relations with both AA and DL, or decides to shed DL/Skyteam and move towards OW?
Keep in mind that the NMA won't be available until 2025, and that's assuming that the won't be program delays. AA could order more A321s for the near term, as well as 797s for the middle of the next decade. I am very much keeping that in mind. AA has over 200 A321-200s in the fleet now and at least...Jump to post
Leehamnews article on the faith of the AA A350 order has some interesting side info on Boeing's pitch to the airline for the 767-300ER replacements. Assuming they go the more A321-200neo route (increasing the order from the current 100 to 150-200), then would they necessarily need to order NMA? The...Jump to post
Keesje, everything you are suggesting is pretty much the opposite of what is publicly coming out from what Boeing is working on. A bigger better narrowbody NMA would help the relaunch of a lightened, more 787-9/-10 competible 787-8 later on. (The 787-8 backlog has evaporated). . No. The new Middle ...Jump to post
How hard would it be for Boeing to have two 778 variants? One optimized for Qantas's needs, and one as is being designed.Jump to post
I don't understand why people say '7 across wont work' when Boeing appears to be saying -'yes it does!' Indeed they have a rather successful aircraft that has been doing exactly that for the past 40 years!The (797) appears to be a major improvement on that successful aircraft. It's not that there i...Jump to post
Stitch wrote:I'm just wondering if Honeydew was a widebody design (or could be adapted to such):
I just think 7 abreast doesn't justify the second aisle. Take the above and do 2+4+2. I don't know enough to agree or disagree with you. What we do know is that Boeing reportedly believes that 2+3+2 is what is optimal for this market segment. Also interesting is a recent Merrill survey. There's a p...Jump to post
This is from a 16 years old patent filing, but I believe that it shows what direction Boeing is going in: https://www.google.com/patents/US6834833
"twin-aisle airplane seating 220 to 270 passengers" sounds more like a 767-300 to me ( ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767#Specifications ). 220-270 sounds like it would be well within the 788 territories to me. 788 is advertised to seat 240-250 in a two class configuration. IIR...Jump to post
As above, "The 787 wing is 3 times the size of the 737 and the engines have almost 3 times as much thrust", so how much weight/thrust are you willing to add to the 4500nm model to get that extra 1000nm range? The additional weight added to get additional range curve is flatter than it was...Jump to post
...The same with the MoM, if airlines line up demanding a MoM and willing to pay for it, Boeing would have launched it already. From what I've read, airlines are willing to pay for the MoM, just not at prices that Boeing is willing to sell. Even if Boeing had already closed the price gap, there has...Jump to post
If it can fly across the Atlantic with 180 people in a decent 2 class cabin, it's a MoM for most airlines and competing with a whole bunch of larger aircraft. http://aviationweek.com/site-files/aviationweek.com/files/uploads/2016/07/09/AI29_pie1.jpeg You seem to be coming to a different conclusion ...Jump to post
I'm not fond of conspiracy theories, but I would't be suprized if Airbus waits for the point of no return of this 737-10 and then presents an incremental A321 improvement. That's Boeing fanboy territory. You're sounding like that nutjob over at VeroVenia who was certain the MAX was a ruse to lure A...Jump to post
Leahy has a different definition of the MOM than Boeing. Mr. Leahy doesn't really seem to know what an MOM is, so I am not inclined to agree Airbus "owns" that specific market. No one is going to operate an A321 at 240 seats. There is no standardized definition of "MOM", Boeing ...Jump to post
This is underwhelming compared to what is possible, but quite reasonable considering the constraints of the 737. My guess is that we'll see a 2–3–2 eliptical MOM launched with a 2025 EIS in the next few years. Then we'll see a NSA announced in the 2022–2024 timeframe for a 2028–2030 EIS to finally r...Jump to post
Leahy has a different definition of the MOM than Boeing.Jump to post
The airplane he seems to want already exists and it's called the A321. Is it really cheaper for MOL to work with Boeing to desing a whole new plane (even if it borrows quite a lot from the basic 757) than to buy Airbus at some cut price (nobody buys at list price, we know that). The A321, as good a...Jump to post
I've read that Boeing overbuilt the 787 fuselage with more CFRP in the fuselage sections than what was needed to be on the safe side with the new tech. Now that Boeing has more data, might future versions be built with less CFRP? Would this allow for lighter fuselages with a greater interior diameter?Jump to post
There seems to be a lot of bashing and negative posts coming from our American friends. On the other hand, Europeans seem to be more positive than there's reason to be. No surprise there. ... "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own...Jump to post
LAXdude1023 wrote:Trump did just nominate the CEO of Exxon Mobile to be our Secretary of State. Im not saying we will see anything close to $100 a barrel, but its becoming obvious it will go up.
A few things to consider: 1. The A330neo family can fly the vast majority of current UA widebody missions without struggling on performance or sacrificing seating capacity. 2. United is practically compelled to develop and launch a longhaul Premium Economy cabin in the near future -- how will that ...Jump to post
(CAPA) Philippine Airlines may cut Middle East capacity and network, and end Etihad partnership
http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/p ... hip-315648
Amtrak is typically a far more pleasant experience than flying. Amtrak has been known to drop an offending passenger off at the next road crossing. As a courtesy they let local law officials know that said person may be in need of assistance. Nothing is pleasant about taking Amtrak from West Coast ...Jump to post
Great to see DUB finally added. With QR's continued investment in IAG & Aer Lingus' impending re-joining of OneWorld, this should give great options for oneworld frequent flyers in Ireland. I would question if DUB-Middle East is now too competitive to survive with 2 daily EK and daily (twice da...Jump to post
AV may have very warm relations if they choose UAs bid over DLs with the rest of Star. If the collapse of the EU really happens and there is a Porxit, TP may be gobbled up by LH Group as TP is the best connection between Brazil and Europe, I can also see LH Group taking over LO as well. Is LO even ...Jump to post
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when the decision to hire McAllister was made.Jump to post
I think that Airbus would be better off by bringing an A322 with a new wing to market than an A300neo or A330-700. An A322 just seems less risky.Jump to post
Nigeria is following the same path as Venezuela. More state control, inept management of the economy, and corruption to the highest degree. Nigeria can most likely be descried as a "failed state'. Nigeria is in bad shape, but it is not even close to being a failed state. Not to vehemently disa...Jump to post
G'day http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines/d ... h-decision Quote: Leahy acknowledged that Singapore Airlines was the “one pushing most in the market and is a very important customer”, but added “we can’t launch it for just one customer. ... Unquote: I doubt Airbus is simply going to hand this ord...Jump to post
11725Flyer wrote:Nigeria is following the same path as Venezuela. More state control, inept management of the economy, and corruption to the highest degree. Nigeria can most likely be descried as a "failed state'.
Well the Senate will approve it since the Republicans control it and it looks like some Democrats don't like the deal. Obama will veto it and the margins are too small to overturn so the deal will remain in effect until the next Congress comes into session. Don't be so sure that the Senate will app...Jump to post
Guess the US Congress begs to differ, the deal is dead, time for Iran to go back to Russia and now China, even the SSJ100 is out of the question, they'll have to get TU-204s and IL96's. https://www.rt.com/usa/367334-house-ira ... l-blocked/ A vote in the house does not kill the deal. It still has t...Jump to post
You heard it here first.
Rdh3e wrote:NYCRuss wrote:How much of UA's DEN traffic is O&D?
They mentioned that DEN is UA's hub with the highest % flow during the call.
Currently UA is 32% O&D / 68% flow; WN is 63% O&D and 37% flow.
Denver's status and growth plans are really interesting because Southwest is also planning a aggressive expansion. I've been told that Southwest is planning on between 250 and 300 daily departures within a five year period at Denver. There is real risk that the two carriers may cannibalize each oth...Jump to post
Trump has to be the first president who I hope breaks every single of his campain promises... Most of his speeches were contradictory anyway. He wanted to curtail free trade between the US and many countries yet at the same time said he would foster growth and job creation... except the two are inc...Jump to post
This is from the man who said, "How do you become a millionaire? Make a billion dollars and then buy an airline." It means he has Alzheimer's disease. Richard Branson said that. Unless you have a source superior to The Economist I'm sticking with Buffet. You, sir, are correct! Branson sai...Jump to post