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by jcs17
Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:13 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Friday Stupid Topic: Handling Cash, Credit Card Re
Replies: 44
Views: 5771

RE: Friday Stupid Topic: Handling Cash, Credit Card Re

I carry between $15-$20 in my wallet most of the time. I pay my landlord in cashiers checks, with a roughly $22 surcharge at the supermarket, for a paper-trail. I've heard horror stories about people in my building trying to write personal checks and her pretending that the check wasn't accepted. Ot...

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by jcs17
Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: New Lufthansa Logo For China?
Replies: 37
Views: 19639

Rumor: New Lufthansa Logo For China?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EricR" class="quote" target="_blank">EricR</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>It is similar to the Alaska Airlines logo. Howev...

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by jcs17
Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Popularity Of New UA At Houston.
Replies: 125
Views: 17831

RE: Popularity Of New UA At Houston.

For the vast majority of travelers, especially those who travel on business in Houston, it really doesn't matter. To them, getting on an aircraft is a necessary evil -- surly flight attendants, gate agents, the <acronym title="Taipei - Sung Shan (TSA / RCSS), Taiwan">TSA</acronym>, it is what it is....

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by jcs17
Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Indians In Call Centres Giving Western Names.
Replies: 30
Views: 4187

RE: Indians In Call Centres Giving Western Names.

My company moved our 24-hour customer service center to Manila from Bangalore a few years ago. Filipinos speak English with a very neutral, if not American, accent. The small increase in price per employee was made up by huge increases in customer satisfaction. Internally, if we have an <acronym tit...

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by jcs17
Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Denver Cinema Shooting 14 Dead And Upto 50 Injured
Replies: 172
Views: 8382

RE: Denver Cinema Shooting 14 Dead And Upto 50 Injured

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/StarAC17" class="quote" target="_blank">StarAC17</a> (<a href="#66" class="quote">Reply 66</a>):<br/><i> Was the 6 year old by themselves? If no...

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by jcs17
Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Denver Cinema Shooting 14 Dead And Upto 50 Injured
Replies: 172
Views: 8382

RE: Denver Cinema Shooting 14 Dead And Upto 50 Injured

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Mortyman" class="quote" target="_blank">Mortyman</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i> I beleave a 6 year old was actually one...

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by jcs17
Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Quite The Story: SGU Closed After Incident W Plane
Replies: 80
Views: 21225

RE: Quite The Story: SGU Closed After Incident W Plane

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SLCGuy" class="quote" target="_blank">SLCGuy</a> (<a href="#20" class="quote">Reply 20</a>):<br/><i>Sounds like a desparate individual, RIP.</i>...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Convince Me The IPhone Is Better Than...
Replies: 57
Views: 4620

RE: Convince Me The IPhone Is Better Than...

I just lost all my music because I stupidly clicked "update" when I plugged my iPhone into my laptop, which was re-formatted a few months ago. I'm irate. I spent close to $700 for those 650 songs and now they're all gone and I have absolutely no recourse. Fuck Apple.

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?
Replies: 309
Views: 14388

RE: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DocLightning" class="quote" target="_blank">DocLightning</a> (<a href="#227" class="quote">Reply 227</a>):<br/><i> You're wrong. There are a gre...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:55 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?
Replies: 309
Views: 14388

RE: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?

Again, I simply state that only gay men or straight men with penis issues care whether a baby boy is cut or not. Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel really sorry that gay men have made this an issue. It demeans gay men as people who only care about penises and sex. You're really playing into a stereotype.

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.
Replies: 68
Views: 3660

RE: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PSU.DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i> I think the death penalty would d...

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by jcs17
Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:35 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?
Replies: 309
Views: 14388

RE: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/raffik" class="quote" target="_blank">raffik</a> (<a href="#207" class="quote">Reply 207</a>):<br/><i>It's not about sex. It's about mutilating ...

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by jcs17
Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.
Replies: 68
Views: 3660

RE: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/fridgmus" class="quote" target="_blank">fridgmus</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>Don't punish the players. It's not their f...

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by jcs17
Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.
Replies: 68
Views: 3660

RE: Freeh Report...Paterno Knew.

Of course Paterno knew. The only people who didn't think Paterno knew were fans, students, or alums of Penn State. He knew probably even before '98, when he was "first" clued into these charges as alleged by the Freeh Report. Instead of calling the authorities and having to answer questions then, ma...

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by jcs17
Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:22 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Why Are Blonde People Considered Better Looking?
Replies: 32
Views: 24295

RE: Why Are Blonde People Considered Better Looking?

It's a myth, at least in the US. There was a study several years ago among straight white men and it found they preferred women with dark hair over blondes (with the exception of California, where there opposite was true). You can count me as an honorary Californian (yuck!). I've dated brunettes, bu...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Rep Wants To Pattern Schools After Madrasses
Replies: 155
Views: 6476

RE: US Rep Wants To Pattern Schools After Madrasses

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/seb146" class="quote" target="_blank">seb146</a> (<a href="#43" class="quote">Reply 43</a>):<br/><i>Why, then, do right-wing voters keep voting ...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:35 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?
Replies: 309
Views: 14388

RE: Male Circumcision - Are You For Or Against It?

It's very strange how gay males have such a strong opinion about circumcision. In my opinion, it marginalizes the gay community deeply as a people who care only about sex. You really care that much if men are cut? As for me, I don't care. If I get married and my wife wants our child to have our chil...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Rep Wants To Pattern Schools After Madrasses
Replies: 155
Views: 6476

RE: US Rep Wants To Pattern Schools After Madrasses

Imagine if an Evangelical Christian like Michelle Bachmann (who I dislike) suggesting that she wanted to model American schools after a Protestant school-model (not that one even exists). The howls on the left would be deafening. You have an American representative suggesting that schools should be ...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:43 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA
Replies: 42
Views: 18473

RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FlyingFinn76" class="quote" target="_blank">FlyingFinn76</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i> This E concourse looks qui...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:22 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL)
Replies: 46
Views: 17993

RE: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL)

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FlyingFinn76" class="quote" target="_blank">FlyingFinn76</a> (<a href="#23" class="quote">Reply 23</a>):<br/><i>Sure did, although not much New ...

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by jcs17
Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:29 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL)
Replies: 46
Views: 17993

RE: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL)

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FlyingFinn76" class="quote" target="_blank">FlyingFinn76</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i> Keuka Lake, part of the Fi...

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by jcs17
Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: What Is Fort Wayne's Most Interesting Building?
Replies: 5
Views: 4178

RE: What Is Fort Wayne's Most Interesting Building?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SmithAir747" class="quote" target="_blank">SmithAir747</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i> Are you interested in its architect...

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by jcs17
Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:52 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Your Favorite Bagel Flavor(s)?
Replies: 14
Views: 3102

RE: Your Favorite Bagel Flavor(s)?

Jalapeno, which is ironic in that I now live in the bagel capital of the world and can't find a place that actually sells Jalapeno bagels. Nor can I find a place that sells jalapeno cream cheese. The deli down the street from me in Washington sold jalapeno cream cheese, but I can't find a place in N...

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by jcs17
Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Tokio Or Singapore For Vacation?
Replies: 15
Views: 3216

RE: Tokio Or Singapore For Vacation?

I'd take Tokyo over Singapore, but if you are uncomfortable being in a city where English is less known, Singapore is the best option. Both are really cool cities, but the fact that you can travel to other interesting places like Kyoto or Fuji in a single day puts Tokyo over the top. Singapore is re...

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by jcs17
Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK 22R "Pavement Fail"
Replies: 2
Views: 2860

RE: JFK 22R "Pavement Fail"

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/jfklganyc" class="quote" target="_blank">jfklganyc</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i> Anyone have any insight into how...

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by jcs17
Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:33 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: First No Hitter In NY Mets History!
Replies: 5
Views: 2005

RE: First No Hitter In NY Mets History!

I'm a Yankee fan (clarification: not a band-wagoner, I was born in '83 and started watching Yankees baseball in the late 80s on WPIX) and I felt good for the Mets and their fans last night. What a feel-good story. This team should be at least 15 games out of first place right now, and they're puttin...

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by jcs17
Sun May 13, 2012 5:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Place Bumper Stickers On Your Car?
Replies: 61
Views: 5210

RE: Do You Place Bumper Stickers On Your Car?

I have a Romney 2012 sticker on my rear bumper. For some reason, living where I do, I've yet to see anyone sporting the same one.  

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by jcs17
Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:12 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Your Favorite Grocery Store(s)?
Replies: 28
Views: 2321

RE: Your Favorite Grocery Store(s)?

Favorite:
Central Market
Stew Leonard's
Wegman's
Target
Publix

Least Favorite:
Waldbaum's
King Kullen
Tom Thumb
The nasty supermarkets in So-Cal.

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by jcs17
Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:44 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: What's Behind Your A.net Nickname?
Replies: 109
Views: 5391

RE: What's Behind Your A.net Nickname?

Initials + hockey/football number.

Given that I signed up in 2001, I probably could've gotten JCS, Josh, or some permutation of the two.

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by jcs17
Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Soldier Kills Afghans In Shooting Spree
Replies: 265
Views: 8216

RE: US Soldier Kills Afghans In Shooting Spree

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SOBHI51" class="quote" target="_blank">SOBHI51</a> (<a href="#23" class="quote">Reply 23</a>):<br/><i>Quoting jcs17 (Reply 10): I'm so tired of ...

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by jcs17
Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:36 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: What Were Your First Three Jobs?
Replies: 49
Views: 2446

RE: What Were Your First Three Jobs?

1. Sandwich maker and dishwasher at an independent sandwich place in an office building in suburban Atlanta. Awful job. I quit a month after starting. 2. Grocery bagger and cart pusher at Publix. Okay job. You were working alongside a lot of people around your age. The managers were hyper-sensitive,...

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by jcs17
Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Which Cuisines Did You Find Disappointing?
Replies: 95
Views: 4598

RE: Which Cuisines Did You Find Disappointing?

I find Vietnamese food to be awful. I do enjoy dishes from Southeast Asia in general, but Vietnamese cuisine is just so foreign to my taste. The use of leaves in warm dishes and soups is too foreign for me. Right when you're eating a piece of tasty meat in Pho, you encounter a warm, very chewy leaf,...

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by jcs17
Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trayvon Martin Case...Will Shooter Get Prosecuted?
Replies: 492
Views: 10093

RE: Trayvon Martin Case...Will Shooter Get Prosecuted?

Let the grand jury and judge decide on evidence before we convict. Haven't we done this enough? The race-baiters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have so many skeletons in their closets its disgusting. The President is black, the "perp" is Hispanic, it's time to end this stupidity. American celebr...

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by jcs17
Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Are Any Conservatives Exited About Mitt Romney?
Replies: 78
Views: 2573

RE: Are Any Conservatives Exited About Mitt Romney?

I consider myself a conservative on most issues, a moderate on a few. I was Herman Cain supporter (that was a tough bumper sticker to peel off) who supported Mitt Romney in 2008. I have gone back to Mitt Romney, and I am very excited. I consider myself a 21st Century Republican -- I support fiscal r...

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by jcs17
Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA To Rethink Electronics Use Below 10K
Replies: 33
Views: 5145

RE: FAA To Rethink Electronics Use Below 10K

I don't really see the point. Once at 10k, at most you're 15 minutes from landing. Instead they ought to crack down on lazy flight attendants who during an initial decent announcement at 30,000 feet have you stowing your electronic devices and pitching up the seat back so they can limit their trips ...

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by jcs17
Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Flies Back To ORD Bc No Gates At DFW
Replies: 44
Views: 18306

RE: AA Flies Back To ORD Bc No Gates At DFW

It happens. My greatest/worst story of this happening was flying into <acronym title="Grand Forks - International (Mark Andrews Field) (GFK / KGFK), USA - North Dakota">GFK</acronym> from <acronym title="Minneapolis / St. Paul - International / Wold-Chamberlain Field (MSP / KMSP), USA - Minnesota">M...

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by jcs17
Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane Off Taxiway @ ATL
Replies: 124
Views: 34469

RE: Plane Off Taxiway @ ATL

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/shufflemoomin" class="quote" target="_blank">shufflemoomin</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>I was also wondering how it's ...

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by jcs17
Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Soldier Kills Afghans In Shooting Spree
Replies: 265
Views: 8216

RE: US Soldier Kills Afghans In Shooting Spree

Is it politically incorrect to say I really don't care? American soldiers by accident burned some copies of the Koran, and several are massacred at their bases. Bases at which American and coalition troops are trying to draw up plans to help the Afghan people and rid them of the Taliban. Burn a Bibl...

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by jcs17
Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Breaking News - Putin Wins Russian Election
Replies: 61
Views: 3171

RE: Breaking News - Putin Wins Russian Election

The greatest part of this sham election are the "official vote totals." In no region did Putin have less than 55% of the total vote. In Muslim-dominated Chechnya which Putin savaged during his first and second term, over 99% of eligible voters went to the polls, and over 98% voted for good ol' Vlad....

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by jcs17
Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Limbaugh Apologises For Calling Law Student Names
Replies: 245
Views: 5630

RE: Limbaugh Apologises For Calling Law Student Names

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Pellegrine" class="quote" target="_blank">Pellegrine</a> (<a href="#115" class="quote">Reply 115</a>):<br/><i>Nonsense. And how dare someone bri...

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by jcs17
Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Limbaugh Apologises For Calling Law Student Names
Replies: 245
Views: 5630

RE: Limbaugh Apologises For Calling Law Student Names

First of all, when it was first reported, this woman was a 23-year old undergraduate. As it turns out she's 30 year old third-year law student who is essentially a student activist who doesn't only demand contraceptives from a Catholic institution, but also wants to hold their insurance responsible ...

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by jcs17
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:01 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Would You Emigrate? Where Would You Go?
Replies: 114
Views: 5308

RE: Would You Emigrate? Where Would You Go?

Australia, The Netherlands, or Switzerland.

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by jcs17
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:58 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: E-Series Van Dead, Ford Launches New Transit Van
Replies: 49
Views: 7044

RE: E-Series Van Dead, Ford Launches New Transit Van

The most important thing is that everyone is belted in. Crumple zones don't matter if you don't have a seatbelt, even if it's a lapbelt.

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by jcs17
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Believe In God?
Replies: 393
Views: 9879

RE: Do You Believe In God?

I'd guess yes. There is something missing from the idea that when you die there is nothing. The chances of our earth plus the fact that a perfect evolution occurred to create humans is so remote you might as well roll a dice a hundreds of millions of times and get 1 each time. Whether Jesus of Nazar...

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by jcs17
Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:45 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: New York City On May 20th, 1999 In High Definition
Replies: 7
Views: 2522

RE: New York City On May 20th, 1999 In High Definition

The difference between the early 90s and the late 90s in NYC is absolutely amazing. I still remember in 1990 or so taking a graffiti-covered subway between Grand Central and 51st Street with my Dad as a seven year old. We moved to Atlanta from Connecticut in 1996. I remember watching the coverage of...

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by jcs17
Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Stolen C172 Crash. Unlicenced Pilot Killed
Replies: 19
Views: 12657

RE: Stolen C172 Crash. Unlicenced Pilot Killed

Were the cans of Cheez-Whiz and Red Bull salvageable?

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by jcs17
Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Iran Willing To Attack On US Soil
Replies: 102
Views: 5553

RE: Iran Willing To Attack On US Soil

I'd be willing to bet that it happens. I think that the second that Israel attacks Iranian nuclear sites, there will be suicide bombings throughout soft targets in the US. I also think that the majority of attackers will be holders of Canadian passports and simply passed through US Customs & Imm...

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by jcs17
Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Pats Vs Giants Here We Go! Superbowl Xlvi
Replies: 65
Views: 3073

RE: Pats Vs Giants Here We Go! Superbowl Xlvi

Hell yeah! I planned a vacation day on Monday so I could celebrate appropriately tonight, and I certainly plan on taking a long lunch on Tuesday to make it down to the Canyon of Heroes. My first ticker-tape parade, I cannot wait. It was an absolutely amazing win. The Patriots neutralized Victor Cruz...

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by jcs17
Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do Non-labor Employees Suffer From Govt Mentality?
Replies: 8
Views: 2049

RE: Do Non-labor Employees Suffer From Govt Mentality?

That's kind of an odd question. I've never worked for an airline -- although I've interviewed for one, but I imagine it's like any other white collar, non-union job -- your boss tells you to do something, you're doing it unless you want to be dismissed or get on the wrong side of them. It's not like...

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