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by SLCUT2777
Fri May 03, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big can SWA get in ATL
Replies: 51
Views: 6042

Re: How big can SWA get in ATL

I think WN will toy with adding a few flights here and there in ATL, but if WN grow measurably at a DL hub in the years ahead my best guess is they'll target SLC. Recently they brought back SAN and will restart STL. They could also go back into 4-5 former original Morris Air being SNA, PDX, BOI, GEG...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to drop YYJ in September 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 8945

Re: Delta to drop YYJ in September 2019

Keep in mind DL served YYJ-SLC seasonally at one point (2006-2009). The biggest hurdle YYJ has so far as trans-border service is their lack of a U.S. Customs & Border Protection pre-clearance FIS desk. If Victoria built one, it would get utilized since the ferry services also utilize U.S. office...

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by SLCUT2777
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CLT new 12000ft runway shortened
Replies: 70
Views: 11376

Re: CLT new 12000ft runway shortened

Has DEN ever really needed 16,000' of runway? Does SLC really still need to expand one of their 12,000' runways to 15,000? While both are hot and high, the demand may not dictate the infrastructure investment...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New terminal proposed for PVU - Provo, Utah
Replies: 25
Views: 3736

Re: New terminal proposed for PVU - Provo, Utah

With a bigger terminal, you'd maybe expect a few RTs from the US3 but not enough to justify 10 gates, maybe 5 max. So you’re saying, if they build it, they will come? Meanwhile, SLC - which is spending several billion on a new terminal - is less than an hour’s (easy) drive away... with the US3 look...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Instead of Merging with Delta, should Northwest have gone with American?
Replies: 40
Views: 5354

Re: Instead of Merging with Delta, should Northwest have gone with American?

FlightLevel360 wrote:
To be honest, NW was the nail in the coffin that ended DL's exclusive relationship with U.S. based aircraft manufacturers

That happened back in the late 90's when MDD was swallowed by Boeing...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Instead of Merging with Delta, should Northwest have gone with American?
Replies: 40
Views: 5354

Re: Instead of Merging with Delta, should Northwest have gone with American?

caljn wrote:
Continental should have merged with Alaska.

The next merger will be Delta swallowing Alaska. They will then own their prime TPAC hub...

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by SLCUT2777
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ed Bastian on SLC: "One of the things I’d like to be able to do is create an Asian route"
Replies: 64
Views: 8755

Re: Ed Bastian on SLC: "One of the things I’d like to be able to do is create an Asian route"

No one is saying SLC is going anywhere. Like I said, SLC is a great domestic hub and fills its role well, but it's nowhere near the level of O&D as DEN/PHX (markets that have more than double the population of SLC). If you think LH, year round KL, FCO will be served from SLC, sorry, that is not...

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by SLCUT2777
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ed Bastian on SLC: "One of the things I’d like to be able to do is create an Asian route"
Replies: 64
Views: 8755

Re: Ed Bastian on SLC: "One of the things I’d like to be able to do is create an Asian route"

I don't see this working out, at least not in the intermediate future. DL needs to focus on building out SEA, shifting anything to SLC would not help. Like I said above, SLC fills its role in the DL network as a great domestic connecting hub, but the O&D market is just too small for a lot of in...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any change with the A380 and SEA
Replies: 21
Views: 4077

Re: Any change with the A380 and SEA

All said, it's highly doubtful SEA will ever see an A380 except for the rare occasional diversion. LAX, SFO & maybe YVR will be the only West Coast airports in North America that will likely ever see service from this aircraft.

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City questions
Replies: 19
Views: 2233

Re: Salt Lake City questions

There is a certain organization based in SLC that seems to do a fair bit of traveling. I always figured they helped the numbers in SLC and growth. They also from what I've overheard have invested a significant amount of $$$ in Delta Air Lines stock within their religious charitable endowment fund. ...

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City questions
Replies: 19
Views: 2233

Re: Salt Lake City questions

5, It's not the size of the city, it's the geographic location of the city. That's what hubs are all about and SLC is DL's hub in that area. It serves to consolidate passengers going west/east between cities/hubs that don't have enough traffic for direct flights. It's absolutely the size of the cit...

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver International Airport Expansion Plans
Replies: 144
Views: 26673

Re: Denver International Airport Expansion Plans

American moving from Phoenix.[/quote]
Nah, Delta moving from SLC has always been the a.net rumor for years

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will Perth get a non stop flight to the US ?
Replies: 100
Views: 11816

Re: When will Perth get a non stop flight to the US ?

It's also an extremely long haul flight from PER to LAX/SFO, probably the longest in the world even exceeding LAX/EWR-Singapore. 18 hours+ in the air on a 789, 772LR or A350ULH is what this route would require.

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why WN Gave It's PAE Slots to AS?
Replies: 54
Views: 7254

Re: Why WN Gave It's PAE Slots to AS?

My take on this one still is WN will seek unopposed access to BFI and this concession to AS on PAE is part of the deal since AS lead the fight :hissyfit: to stop WN back in 2005. :stirthepot:

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by SLCUT2777
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Announces long awaited PAE flights on sale now, WN transfers slots to AS
Replies: 145
Views: 20265

Re: AS Announces long awaited PAE flights on sale now, WN transfers slots to AS

wnflyguy wrote:

BFI will never happen again.

Let's hope you're right, since WN would turn BFI into another DAL or MDW very quickly. PAE isn't governed by King County or the Port Authority of Seattle at least.

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Announces long awaited PAE flights on sale now, WN transfers slots to AS
Replies: 145
Views: 20265

Re: AS Announces long awaited PAE flights on sale now, WN transfers slots to AS

My take is WN did this with AS in an underhanded way so that AS will not complain when WN makes a move to get similar exclusive holdings on BFI as they attempted to do back in 2005. "We'll give you PAE for BFI."

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by SLCUT2777
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 274
Views: 32909

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

trexel94 wrote:
You can't be serious! St Louians must be fuming now.

I think destinations between Europe and the likes of STL, CVG, CLE are over. I think if BA plays with any additional North American destinations it will be the likes of PDX or SLC. DL may have beaten them in there.

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Drunk passenger causes diversion after headbutting FA
Replies: 35
Views: 7588

Re: Drunk passenger causes diversion after headbutting FA

Time for corporal punishment to be re-instituted in the U.S. & Canada. Such a stunt as this should earn the perpetrator a date with "Mr. Fuji" to be administered some "Singapore Justice!"

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 631
Views: 66916

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

klm617 wrote:
SEA-GRR I could see.

This will NEVER work if SEA-IND couldn't

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wyoming Aviation Thread
Replies: 21
Views: 2433

Re: Wyoming Aviation Thread

there is a statewide commission looking at many of the various factors of improving WY air service https://trib.com/news/wyoming-air-service-plan-moves-forward/article_c92747fe-1336-5569-b709-46197409466a.html Riverton and Lander have bveen sharing an airport as far back as i remember and i'm 60 Ju...

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by SLCUT2777
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wyoming Aviation Thread
Replies: 21
Views: 2433

Re: Wyoming Aviation Thread

There is a market in many Western and Pacific Northwest Communities that could support service with aircraft such as the P2012 or the Cessna SkyCourier 408. Its getting an airline to commit to it, getting communities to subsidize part of the service (cities of Riverton WY & Sheridan WY are near...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV
Replies: 62
Views: 6916

Re: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV

But historically WS has been a LCC type of airline. It is not a legacy type carrier with business pax who have FF status, collect miles, and go out of their way to fly that specific airline. People fly WS because it is either the best price, itenerary, or some combination there of. Most Canadian PO...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV
Replies: 62
Views: 6916

Re: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV

If WS wants more NYC options from DL it will be to LGA rather than JFK, similarly DL has enough DCA slots & enough power to swing a perimeter exemption to either from one of their western points of service like YVR or YYC. All said they’ve worked with both DL & AA as well as a short lived ye...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:59 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV
Replies: 62
Views: 6916

Re: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV

My own predictions for new destinations are somewhat more modest. Jet: YYC- ATL/MSP YYZ - ATL Prop YYC - SEA/SLC YVR - SEA/SLC YQR/YXE/YQT/YWG - MSP YYZ - MSP/DTW(maybe) YOW/YUL - ATL But these are all totally guesses. As are mine. Keep in mind a connection on WS to any of these DL focus/hub cities...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV
Replies: 62
Views: 6916

Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV

With WS finalizing the terms of a Joint Venture with DL for trans-border operations, I think it’s safe to assume WestJet will soon be announcing some forthcoming U.S. destinations. We can all speculate where they might end up. My predictions: AUS via YVR & YYC SLC via YYC, YEG, YVR ATL via YYZ, ...

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011
Replies: 250
Views: 18359

Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

To this day none of the gates at SLC can take any 744 or 748, A34X or A388 any carrier brings in. KLM has used a 77W on an equipment substitution as recently as May 20 & that’s as big as will fit at gates D-1, D-3 or E-1 that are directly connected to the FIS desk. 2 years from now, the new inte...

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by SLCUT2777
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA dropping Calgary effective October for winter sced.
Replies: 53
Views: 10323

Re: BA dropping Calgary effective October for winter sced.

[quote="wave46"][quote="ADrum23"] 2. Westjet launched their year-round flagship service to London from Calgary in 2016 This one perhaps becomes the most relevant given WS has a joint venture with DL which makes them a defacto member of SkyTeam. This aligns them more with KL or AF...

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Class action lawsuit to fight Montreal airport noise pollution gets go-ahead
Replies: 7
Views: 1496

Re: Class action lawsuit to fight Montreal airport noise pollution gets go-ahead

It's a sad day when junk litigation out on the fringe becomes case law. The airport and its operations have long been in place before the mentioned neighborhoods came into existence.

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/25/2018: HA Drops OAK-KOA, Defers LIH; AS Drops SFO-MEX
Replies: 97
Views: 11704

Re: OAG Changes 2/25/2018: HA Drops OAK-KOA, Defers LIH; AS Drops SFO-MEX

[quote="iyerhari"][quote="enilria"] *DL ATL-YVR NOV 0.9>0 DL YVR cuts for ATL and SLC. WS getting some of the DL routs as part of Joint Venture? One of the SLC-YVR frequencies has always been via a connection carrier (OO), but seasonally the other has been mainline. WS jumps into...

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The ME3 and PHX
Replies: 51
Views: 5201

Re: The ME3 and PHX

I could see PHX supporting a ULCC to Europe. I cannot see it supporting a ME3. Denver I think is more attractive for the ME3 and that hasn't even happened yet. Denver is too high for such long distance flights. Perhaps it might work as a one stop through Europe. DEN has the runway at 16,000' in len...

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airline Service Dead Zones
Replies: 37
Views: 5435

Re: Airline Service Dead Zones

One in the south that comes to mind is Hattiesburg, MS (PIB), which has AA Eagle service one/day to DFW & ORD each. 2+ hours driving to MSY or JAN...

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by SLCUT2777
Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Pre clearance approval for Toronto Billy Bishop (YTZ) and Quebec (YQB)
Replies: 9
Views: 3336

Re: US Pre clearance approval for Toronto Billy Bishop (YTZ) and Quebec (YQB)

I’m certain now YYJ is jumping up & down about also being included.

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by SLCUT2777
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Westjet agree to form US-Canada JV
Replies: 153
Views: 23658

Re: Delta and Westjet agree to form US-Canada JV

I would also not be the least bit surprised to see WS in SLC & taking mainline flights to YVR, YYC as well as adding back YEG & YYZ. Thereby shifting OO connection flying to smaller stations such as bringing back YYJ or one that could work like YQL.

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by SLCUT2777
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will we ever see US to Vietnam nonstop?
Replies: 31
Views: 7820

Re: Will we ever see US to Vietnam nonstop?

jeffrey1970 wrote:
I wonder if Delta will start a non-stop flight from MSY to whatever city VN flies to (if they get permission) since their is a large Vietnamese-American population in New Orleans.

DL has year around non-stop LAX-MSY service...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread
Replies: 517
Views: 82884

Re: Delta A350 Future Routes

Asia routes from JFK & LAX are where the future $$$ are for DL on longer, thinner routes. Europe routes can be accommodated with existing 763ER, 764 as well as any of the A332, A333 & forthcoming A330neo aircraft. As for the full complement of 25 A350 DL "could" retire the 772ER fl...

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/27/2017:AA Loads LAX-PEK; DL Drops SLC-GDL; F9 Trims MCO; NK Adds LAS-EWR, Drops IAH-PIT, LAX-PDX/SEA
Replies: 52
Views: 10762

Re: OAG Changes 8/27/2017:AA Loads LAX-PEK; DL Drops SLC-GDL; F9 Trims MCO; NK Adds LAS-EWR, Drops IAH-PIT, LAX-PDX/SEA

The JV is not off to a good start interms of adding routes *DL SLC-GDL JAN 0.9>0.4 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 0.9>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.8>0 The biggest problem with this route isn't so much the numbers or yield, merely the logistics of the SLC airport FIS facility. With only 3 international capable gates (D1 & D...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta future routes from Seattle
Replies: 107
Views: 19795

Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

klm617 wrote:
How about GRR-SEA on an E-jet I think that should be doable.

I think they'll try GRR-SLC first

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by SLCUT2777
Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest planes in state liveries
Replies: 33
Views: 5176

Re: Southwest planes in state liveries

jplatts wrote:
Will Southwest add Georgia One, New York One, and/or Ohio One planes? Southwest has a lot of daily flights to these three states, but currently does not have special livery planes for these 3 states.

How about WN add a "Utah One?"

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by SLCUT2777
Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adding SEA-MSY
Replies: 13
Views: 3894

Re: DL adding SEA-MSY

LAX772LR wrote:
Definitely hoping this could be a precursor to continued service, though it might come at the expense of LAX. :(

If any hub is dropped it will likely be SLC

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/4/2017:AA Drops JFK-TUS, AC Drops SLC-YYZ, F9 Drops IAH-SFO, WN Adds FLL-PLS
Replies: 78
Views: 13867

Re: OAG Changes 6/4/2017:AA Drops JFK-TUS, AC Drops SLC-YYZ, F9 Drops IAH-SFO, WN Adds FLL-PLS

enilria wrote:
Does not resume after Feb
*AC SLC-YYZ OCT 1.0>0.5 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0

Any wagers DL will now drop or scale back this route?

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by SLCUT2777
Wed May 31, 2017 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The 'Mexican game': How Air Transat misled passengers and aviation officials
Replies: 37
Views: 8944

Re: The 'Mexican game': How Air Transat misled passengers and aviation officials

If they also desire to pay the landing fees at MSY, MCI, DEN or even SLC (from SJD, PVR) as well as the aviation fuel tax, then let it be their privilege in stupidity.

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by SLCUT2777
Fri May 26, 2017 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Inaugural PDX-LHR flight today
Replies: 32
Views: 7265

Re: Inaugural PDX-LHR flight today

The CSA is normally a MUCH better measure for airports than MSA. I am surprised people still use MSA on this board, to be honest. For those that don't understand why, Salem is a perfect example why you should use CSA in airport references, as people to and from Salem will use PDX as the local airpo...

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by SLCUT2777
Thu May 18, 2017 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Alaska Airlines Flying from Paine Field
Replies: 121
Views: 16637

Re: New Alaska Airlines Flying from Paine Field

One is being built. Coming in for a landing would be great fun at PAE as you overfly the delivery line-up outside the boeing factory. You already overfly the great scene at Boeing Field into SEA! If this is allowed, why not now allow WN to have a similar exclusive deal at BFI as they proposed 12 ye...

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by SLCUT2777
Fri May 12, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SEA...those upgrades are really needed
Replies: 93
Views: 11763

Re: SEA...those upgrades are really needed

Greater Seattle area needs a viable 2nd airport. Due to the growth of the area the last 20 years, Sea-Tac is not going to be enough. Paine Field would be brilliant if all those people who live close to it would stop bitching about everything there. Its annoying... Anyone remember 11-12 years ago WN...

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by SLCUT2777
Wed May 10, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Makes SEA Better Than NRT For Delta
Replies: 154
Views: 16751

Re: What Makes SEA Better Than NRT For Delta

klm617 wrote:
they could flow the west coast domestic connections over SLC because SEA isn't really well positioned for west coast connection say is you are going from SAN to DEN.

Are we sure this also isn't a "why doesn't DL just pull out of SLC?" thread...

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by SLCUT2777
Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New DL TPA-SLC
Replies: 4
Views: 982

Re: New DL TPA-SLC

Wow...you would think DL would already be flying that route considering TPA is a major spoke. They tried it once for a few years after closing the DFW hub. Ultimately I think SEA might work better for O&D numbers, but the additional options of other west coast connections might help the numbers...

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is JAX so underserved?
Replies: 82
Views: 8560

Re: Why is JAX so underserved?

Jacksonville is not one of the largest MSAs in the US. It's around 40th, smaller than Norfolk-Virginia Beach but larger than Memphis and Louisville. With that perspective, do you still think it's underserved? JAX is VERY lucky they have a dedicated NFL owner that has kept the Jag's in town. It is t...

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is JAX so underserved?
Replies: 82
Views: 8560

Re: Why is JAX so underserved?

Jacksonville is not one of the largest MSAs in the US. It's around 40th, smaller than Norfolk-Virginia Beach but larger than Memphis and Louisville. With that perspective, do you still think it's underserved? JAX is VERY lucky they have a dedicated NFL owner that has kept the Jag's in town. It is t...

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by SLCUT2777
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smaller Hub Cities?
Replies: 84
Views: 9293

Re: Smaller Hub Cities?

The Census Bureau's "Combined Metropolitan Statistical Area metric works better when reporting the size of SLC in that you must add PVU and OGD into the equation. When this is factored in the Wasatch Front/SLC population then goes to @2.5 million (CLT comes out @2.7 million using the same stati...

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by SLCUT2777
Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smaller Hub Cities?
Replies: 84
Views: 9293

Re: Smaller Hub Cities?

The big thing to understand about DL & SLC is the population of the Wasatch Front has more than doubled since Western Airlines began utilizing it 35 years ago. By comparison CVG, STL, PIT, CLE & even MEM have become much more stagnant. According to the SLC airport website, SLC handled over 2...

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