Polot wrote:airlineworker wrote:Is anything being done to shorten the time landing aircraft take to reach the gates? CLT has the longest ground time reaching gates I have ever experienced.
Really the only way to fix that is to destroy the entire terminal complex and rebuild with a better design.
If DL wants to keep large TPAC focus in both LAX & SEA, they need SLC in a similar way UA utilizes DEN to handle SFO & LAX.Jump to post
Time for some "fun facts" about SLC and its status among Delta hubs. Delta hubs - (2019 all-airlines' passenger counts) largest to smallest: 1) ATL - 110,531,300 2) LAX - 88,068,013 3) JFK - 62,551,072 4) SEA - 51,821,239 5) BOS - 42,522,411 6) MSP -39,555,035 7) DTW - 36,759,269 8) LGA -...Jump to post
Delta has the LDS Church contract. The LDS flies people all over the U.S. and around the world on missions and other church business. Delta is not leaving SLC anytime soon. DL has the contract for the business travel but the majority of the missionaries fly the cheapest available flight. The revenu...Jump to post
Delta is in the process of rebalancing it's network For a Post pandemic fallout and SLC just gave them the ultimate gift. This is a gamble to save the airport $300 million dollars on construction cost. But in 5yrs time will SLC just be a sparkling version of CVG of times past? Good luck. Flyguy Why...Jump to post
Older birds won't be scrapped, they're too popular as freighters. Otherwise, yeah. It is interesting that the 764s stayed . . probably no resale value and they are relatively new. And cheaper to operate than A332s to the European hubs. Once more A339's come on board, they're off to the desert as we...Jump to post
Yeah, at a high level I've always known the 777 has had a strange history with DL, unlike where its been a backbone and mainstay of the AA and UA fleets. Can you elaborate a bit more since I didn't follow DL as closely before the merger. What was the driver for the initial 77E order? What were the ...Jump to post
ADL14 wrote:It seems like just going by debt that AA will be the one to do bankruptcy. But I'm not sure any of the Big 4 will outright cease operations. Maybe B6, NK, F9, AS...
Spring of 2021 Seasonal SLC-FCO Is this confirmed? Seems far fetched given DL cut MSP-FCO. I'd see them trying that again before trying a longer, thinner route which totally overflying MSP and DTW. Jeremy It is not confirmed. SLC-FCO is a bit far fetched, especially given the uncertainty of AZ. You...Jump to post
I might add that WS has attempted to gain perimeter exemptions for YYC flights to both DCA & LGA in recent years to no avail. YWG can connect via MSP on DL fairly easily and they do have U.S. pre-clearance, something coveted by a few other Canadian airports ..YYJ comes to mind.Jump to post
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes: - BOS-MAN - BOS-LGW - ICN-MNL - LAX-AMS (Resumption) - DTW-PEK switches to PKX - SEA-PEK switches to PKX - NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND What could we see in 2020? - More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth. - Mo...Jump to post
I think WN will toy with adding a few flights here and there in ATL, but if WN grow measurably at a DL hub in the years ahead my best guess is they'll target SLC. Recently they brought back SAN and will restart STL. They could also go back into 4-5 former original Morris Air being SNA, PDX, BOI, GEG...Jump to post
Keep in mind DL served YYJ-SLC seasonally at one point (2006-2009). The biggest hurdle YYJ has so far as trans-border service is their lack of a U.S. Customs & Border Protection pre-clearance FIS desk. If Victoria built one, it would get utilized since the ferry services also utilize U.S. office...Jump to post
With a bigger terminal, you'd maybe expect a few RTs from the US3 but not enough to justify 10 gates, maybe 5 max. So you’re saying, if they build it, they will come? Meanwhile, SLC - which is spending several billion on a new terminal - is less than an hour’s (easy) drive away... with the US3 look...Jump to post
FlightLevel360 wrote:To be honest, NW was the nail in the coffin that ended DL's exclusive relationship with U.S. based aircraft manufacturers
caljn wrote:Continental should have merged with Alaska.
No one is saying SLC is going anywhere. Like I said, SLC is a great domestic hub and fills its role well, but it's nowhere near the level of O&D as DEN/PHX (markets that have more than double the population of SLC). If you think LH, year round KL, FCO will be served from SLC, sorry, that is not...Jump to post
I don't see this working out, at least not in the intermediate future. DL needs to focus on building out SEA, shifting anything to SLC would not help. Like I said above, SLC fills its role in the DL network as a great domestic connecting hub, but the O&D market is just too small for a lot of in...Jump to post
There is a certain organization based in SLC that seems to do a fair bit of traveling. I always figured they helped the numbers in SLC and growth. They also from what I've overheard have invested a significant amount of $$$ in Delta Air Lines stock within their religious charitable endowment fund. ...Jump to post
5, It's not the size of the city, it's the geographic location of the city. That's what hubs are all about and SLC is DL's hub in that area. It serves to consolidate passengers going west/east between cities/hubs that don't have enough traffic for direct flights. It's absolutely the size of the cit...Jump to post
It's also an extremely long haul flight from PER to LAX/SFO, probably the longest in the world even exceeding LAX/EWR-Singapore. 18 hours+ in the air on a 789, 772LR or A350ULH is what this route would require.Jump to post
BFI will never happen again.
My take is WN did this with AS in an underhanded way so that AS will not complain when WN makes a move to get similar exclusive holdings on BFI as they attempted to do back in 2005. "We'll give you PAE for BFI."Jump to post
trexel94 wrote:You can't be serious! St Louians must be fuming now.
Time for corporal punishment to be re-instituted in the U.S. & Canada. Such a stunt as this should earn the perpetrator a date with "Mr. Fuji" to be administered some "Singapore Justice!"Jump to post
there is a statewide commission looking at many of the various factors of improving WY air service https://trib.com/news/wyoming-air-service-plan-moves-forward/article_c92747fe-1336-5569-b709-46197409466a.html Riverton and Lander have bveen sharing an airport as far back as i remember and i'm 60 Ju...Jump to post
There is a market in many Western and Pacific Northwest Communities that could support service with aircraft such as the P2012 or the Cessna SkyCourier 408. Its getting an airline to commit to it, getting communities to subsidize part of the service (cities of Riverton WY & Sheridan WY are near...Jump to post
But historically WS has been a LCC type of airline. It is not a legacy type carrier with business pax who have FF status, collect miles, and go out of their way to fly that specific airline. People fly WS because it is either the best price, itenerary, or some combination there of. Most Canadian PO...Jump to post
If WS wants more NYC options from DL it will be to LGA rather than JFK, similarly DL has enough DCA slots & enough power to swing a perimeter exemption to either from one of their western points of service like YVR or YYC. All said they’ve worked with both DL & AA as well as a short lived ye...Jump to post
My own predictions for new destinations are somewhat more modest. Jet: YYC- ATL/MSP YYZ - ATL Prop YYC - SEA/SLC YVR - SEA/SLC YQR/YXE/YQT/YWG - MSP YYZ - MSP/DTW(maybe) YOW/YUL - ATL But these are all totally guesses. As are mine. Keep in mind a connection on WS to any of these DL focus/hub cities...Jump to post
With WS finalizing the terms of a Joint Venture with DL for trans-border operations, I think it’s safe to assume WestJet will soon be announcing some forthcoming U.S. destinations. We can all speculate where they might end up. My predictions: AUS via YVR & YYC SLC via YYC, YEG, YVR ATL via YYZ, ...Jump to post
To this day none of the gates at SLC can take any 744 or 748, A34X or A388 any carrier brings in. KLM has used a 77W on an equipment substitution as recently as May 20 & that’s as big as will fit at gates D-1, D-3 or E-1 that are directly connected to the FIS desk. 2 years from now, the new inte...Jump to post
[quote="wave46"][quote="ADrum23"] 2. Westjet launched their year-round flagship service to London from Calgary in 2016 This one perhaps becomes the most relevant given WS has a joint venture with DL which makes them a defacto member of SkyTeam. This aligns them more with KL or AF...Jump to post
It's a sad day when junk litigation out on the fringe becomes case law. The airport and its operations have long been in place before the mentioned neighborhoods came into existence.Jump to post
[quote="iyerhari"][quote="enilria"] *DL ATL-YVR NOV 0.9>0 DL YVR cuts for ATL and SLC. WS getting some of the DL routs as part of Joint Venture? One of the SLC-YVR frequencies has always been via a connection carrier (OO), but seasonally the other has been mainline. WS jumps into...Jump to post
I could see PHX supporting a ULCC to Europe. I cannot see it supporting a ME3. Denver I think is more attractive for the ME3 and that hasn't even happened yet. Denver is too high for such long distance flights. Perhaps it might work as a one stop through Europe. DEN has the runway at 16,000' in len...Jump to post
I’m certain now YYJ is jumping up & down about also being included.Jump to post
I would also not be the least bit surprised to see WS in SLC & taking mainline flights to YVR, YYC as well as adding back YEG & YYZ. Thereby shifting OO connection flying to smaller stations such as bringing back YYJ or one that could work like YQL.Jump to post
jeffrey1970 wrote:I wonder if Delta will start a non-stop flight from MSY to whatever city VN flies to (if they get permission) since their is a large Vietnamese-American population in New Orleans.
Asia routes from JFK & LAX are where the future $$$ are for DL on longer, thinner routes. Europe routes can be accommodated with existing 763ER, 764 as well as any of the A332, A333 & forthcoming A330neo aircraft. As for the full complement of 25 A350 DL "could" retire the 772ER fl...Jump to post