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by ro1960
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: France to charge aviation tax
Replies: 125
Views: 11493

Re: France to charge aviation tax

Two MPs proposed to not allow domestic flights if the journey could be made by train in under 5 hours or not more than 2.5 hours more than by plane. Le Monde wrote an interesting article about this. In the end not many air routes would be affected. Article in French with interesting stats about Fren...

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by ro1960
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: France to charge aviation tax
Replies: 125
Views: 11493

Re: France to charge aviation tax

'Most high speed lines are underused (compared to maximum capacity) and lose money.' Care to provide your sources for this sweeping statement? Care to explain why Air France's domestic network is underused and loss making. It is because most corners of France are now connected by 300km/h HSR and it...

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by ro1960
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

Arrival of the first TS A321neoLR at NCE: Photo on NCE FB page https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65303933_2239221362798333_2823389935636054016_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQmX3huKhRlRYfK6lGssLOg22gkr9BqduHfJ1W0z5O0RFOghxpXa1FyFQ71qKv8go18&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=6ca8e102400...

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by ro1960
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flight Numbers
Replies: 52
Views: 5643

Re: Flight Numbers

How are flight numbers typically assigned? I know that single digit numbers are for most lucrative routes between major cities (NYC-Paris, etc) whereas 4 digit ones are for regional and short-haul. Subject debated many times I believe like here: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&...

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by ro1960
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flight Numbers
Replies: 52
Views: 5643

Re: Flight Numbers

I'm happy to hear how AF assigns flight numbers. It's all over the place.

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by ro1960
Sun May 19, 2019 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

zkojq wrote:
ro1960 wrote:
It was B-2482, flight CA57 PMO-NCE. Here's the photo I took on that day.

Excellent photo!


Thanks :-)

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by ro1960
Sat May 18, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: La compagnie a321 start date
Replies: 28
Views: 8024

Re: La compagnie a321 start date

zkojq wrote:
I'm really looking forwards to EWR-NCE. Fantastic example of the A321LR making new routes possible.


First flight May 9 on a 757.
https://www.laquotidienne.fr/liaison-aerienne-nice-new-york-salut-la-compagnie/

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by ro1960
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific's Airbus A350-1000s and upcoming Boeing 777-9Xs
Replies: 62
Views: 15982

Re: Cathay Pacific's Airbus A350-1000s and upcoming Boeing 777-9Xs

hz747300 wrote:
Qantas94Heavy wrote:
ro1960 wrote:
Will CX’s 777X have the 9-abreast layout in coach like their current 777s?


Certainly not, they are already more than halfway through retrofitting their entire 777 fleet with 10 abreast.


Sucks too. I suppose I could lose weight though.



But you can't lose shoulder width!

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by ro1960
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

It’s not a “rumour”, MU did ask authority to open PGV-NCE last month but hasn’t been granted rights yet. One would have thought that Xi Jinping's visit to Nice with Macron last month would have helped materialize this new route. Indeed. As an aside, does anyone here remember what aircraft he used f...

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by ro1960
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Proposed name change for Germania Flug AG
Replies: 8
Views: 2062

Re: Proposed name change for Germania Flug AG

Well, if you're in the French speaking part of Switzerland, "chair" is "flesh".

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by ro1960
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

Sadly, it seems as if the rumored China Southern route from PVG-NCE was just a rumor. I still live in hope for a direct connection to Eastern Asia. I wonder which airline would be the most likely to go ahead with such a route? Maybe Air China? It’s not a “rumour”, MU did ask authority to open PGV-N...

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by ro1960
Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific's Airbus A350-1000s and upcoming Boeing 777-9Xs
Replies: 62
Views: 15982

Re: Cathay Pacific's Airbus A350-1000s and upcoming Boeing 777-9Xs

Will CX’s 777X have the 9-abreast layout in coach like their current 777s?

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by ro1960
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announces reduction in recline on A320 fleet
Replies: 176
Views: 20566

Re: Delta announces reduction in recline on A320 fleet

Most airlines in Europe have abandoned reclining in coach long ago. At least the ones I fly frequently (AF, U2, IB, VY). I think FR too. On short flights it's really not a problem, rather better given the reduced pitch. I recently flew CX in Y and beside the fact that 9-abreast on a 777 is quite com...

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by ro1960
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

Due to 737-8 MAX grounding, AC is delaying the start of YUL-BOD to July.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2019-04-03-air-canada-suspend-vols-et-routes-faute-de-737-max-5211544.html

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by ro1960
Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21328

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

Certainly very evident at airports like LHR, FRA, AMS that are congested for much of the day. An aircraft moving along a taxiway is significantly faster under its own power than being towed, so the taxiway becomes available for use by another plane sooner. They get more planes through the same infr...

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by ro1960
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21328

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

RobertS975 wrote:
There is nothing that I detest more upon arriving after an overnight flight in Europe and finding out that the plane has parked at a pad and we will bus to the terminal.


That's how VIPs are treated, though. Bussed or rather vanned to the VIP terminal. :)

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by ro1960
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21328

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

Other LCCs like Easyjet may park at a bridge-equipped stand but still use stairs instead. Actually easyJet uses bridges at the front and stairs at the back. The other thing is that compared to the USA there is an extreme reluctance to use tugs for moving planes around airports. Can you elaborate? I...

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by ro1960
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1418413 Enhanced service for Paris-PVG/CAN/PEK have been proposed, new service for Paris-PKX(Beijing 2nd)/Nanchang/Wenzhou/Nanjing have been suggested, new route from Beijing to Marseille and from Shanghai to Nice have also been proposed as sta...

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by ro1960
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has grandfathering been taken too far?
Replies: 362
Views: 14326

Re: Boeing 777-8/-9 Grandfathering Certification, 777X or 7X7?

keesje wrote:
New fuselage, controls, tail, wings, engines, new cockpit. Is this a 777X or a 7X7?


The picture states "wider cross section". We're talking cabin width here, right? Not fuselage width which remains unchanged at 6.20m.

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by ro1960
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Air Italy Livery??
Replies: 14
Views: 3595

Re: New Air Italy Livery??

It looks like a blue version of the Ethiad livery. I doubt United would go for something that modern but I’m ready to be surprised!

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by ro1960
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Airbus aircraft be grounded after April 1?
Replies: 18
Views: 6564

Re: Will Airbus aircraft be grounded after April 1?

DrunkFunk wrote:
Airbus has been working closely with EASA and british authorities to prevent that kind of event, won't happen for sure.


As of today it’s not even sure Brexit will happen.

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by ro1960
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why such short runways in the UK and Ireland
Replies: 30
Views: 4335

Re: Why such short runways in the UK and Ireland

Just curious : what motivated the choice of countries for this comparison? France, Spain, Italy... left out, why?

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by ro1960
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

This has nothing to do with Schengen. Travel occurs within the French territory so no passport is required. However a valid ID is necessary to board a plane pretty much anywhere in Europe. A national ID card will do between France and RUN to verify the passenger's identity matches that of the board...

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by ro1960
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

A national ID card will do between France and RUN to verify the passenger's identity matches that of the boarding pass. But no border control. You are wrong - when traveling between mainland France and its overseas departments/territories there is passport/ID control by the "police nationale&q...

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by ro1960
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

However, for security some kind of ID is demanded like a driving licence. Driving licences are not valid travel IDs in the EU. Only national ID cards and passports. They are however permitted within the CTA area of two EU countries. --- The following forms of photo identification are acceptable onc...

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by ro1960
Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

smallvoyageur wrote:
However, for security some kind of ID is demanded like a driving licence.


Driving licences are not valid travel IDs in the EU. Only national ID cards and passports.

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by ro1960
Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

RUN is not in Schengen so a passport or national ID should be required. This has nothing to do with Schengen. Travel occurs within the French territory so no passport is required. However a valid ID is necessary to board a plane pretty much anywhere in Europe. A national ID card will do between Fra...

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by ro1960
Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?
Replies: 67
Views: 9988

Re: What if a domestic flight diverts to a foreign airport?

Interesting topic! I believe that Air France has some long haul "domestic" flights - eg from Paris to Tahiti or New Caledonia or Madagascar. Flight to Tahiti have a stopover in LAX, so passport and US visa required. New Caledonia flights are routed via NRT, so passport and maybe visas as ...

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by ro1960
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris airports upcoming changes
Replies: 42
Views: 11976

Re: Paris airports upcoming changes

- AF is also in favor of having a new satellite to terminal 2E that would replace terminal 2G Ugh, cant they just do like every sensible airport in the world and place it all in one single building for once?!? I dont care if all the flights have to be boarded by bus, but this concept of having sepa...

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george77300 wrote:

This video is best to see height: https://youtu.be/78ZDaQ0UYZg


The full video shows the approach before the incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=313&v=tjv3xBB-HmY

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by ro1960
Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA492 Unstable Go-Around at GIB / Diverted to AGP
Replies: 114
Views: 24176

Re: BA492 Unstable Go-Around at GIB / Diverted to AGP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBkuHpaYY8g

Onboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxU7DddmbE


Would be more informative if shot in landscape mode. On the second video you barely see the ground, just the wing.
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ktof wrote:


Would be more informative if shot in landscape mode. On the second video you barely see the ground, just the wing.

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by ro1960
Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA492 Unstable Go-Around at GIB / Diverted to AGP
Replies: 114
Views: 24176

Re: BA492 Unstable Go-Around at GIB / Diverted to AGP

zeke wrote:
Sure it’s not a photoshop job ?


Photoshop is not a video editing/effect program. Still images only.

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by ro1960
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French routes news thread
Replies: 240
Views: 39638

Re: French routes news thread

QR aircraft changes :

DOH-NCE: A319 -> A359 from March 31 on, 5x
DOH-CDG: B773 -> A35J from August 31 on, QSuite.

I guess it's the first services with these types to both Nice and Paris.

Article in French

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

And I find the actual topic interesting. Are the incidents up? Or just better reported/inline with the growth of the industry? Are there any stats available somewhere? Other than skimming through dedicated web sites likes crash-aerien.news and counting, I don't know how to get figures. No idea how ...

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

AirlineCritic wrote:
And I find the actual topic interesting. Are the incidents up? Or just better reported/inline with the growth of the industry?


Are there any stats available somewhere? Other than skimming through dedicated web sites likes crash-aerien.news and counting, I don't know how to get figures.

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

I found another photo of the CDG incident. It looks like the AF 773 got both horizontal stabilizers hit by the MK 359 winglet that stayed stuck in the starboard stab. It also looked like a foggy day so this may have played a role in the incident. https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/5164438...

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by ro1960
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

Eternal vigilance is the only answer, that and an attitude “there is NO excuse for a taxi accident”. Eighteen years operating C-5s into lots of small places taught me to know exactly where the clearance exists. I’ll bet all these nifty new electronics in cars is going to get people to rely on them ...

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by ro1960
Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with approaches in close proximity to city centers
Replies: 112
Views: 8835

Re: Airports with approaches in close proximity to city centers

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Nice is nice, the view very expensive, too.

GF


Landing at NCE on 22R (the Saleya Approach) is over water close to the city center (200m) and low altitude (300m). One of the most beautiful in the world.

See video

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by ro1960
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Longest domestic flights in the world
Replies: 37
Views: 5155

Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

Um, ORY/CDG-LAX-PPT is technically domestic although with an international stop in LAX (ATN hinted at a non-stop flight though which would for sure be the longest domestic flight) You’re right, it’s 9,765 mi via LAX. Same goes for NOU. Not sure about the routing, though. Must be via Australia, I gu...

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by ro1960
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:37 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Longest domestic flights in the world
Replies: 37
Views: 5155

Re: Longest domestic flights in the world

seat64k wrote:
ORY-RUN is considered domestic, as far as I know. 9,337 km vs 6,423 km for SVO-VVO

Edit: Mentioned so far:

From To Distance
HNL BOS 5,095 mi
HNL JFK 4,983 mi
RUN CDG 5,809 mi
RUN ORY 5,802 mi
SVO PKC 4,203 mi
SVO VVO 3,991 mi


Don’t forget CDG-DZA 4,990 mi and ORY-CAY 4,401 mi.

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

YYZatcboy wrote:
Then you add in airlines being cheap and not requiring wing walkers, or only one wing walker


I've never seen wing walkers in Europe. I'm puzzled as to their ability to stop an incident. What do they do if they see a wingtip dangerously nearing another?

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 747-400 PH-BFV hits KLM 787-9 PH-BHA at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport
Replies: 41
Views: 12273

Re: KLM 747-400 PH-BFV hits KLM 787-9 PH-BHA at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport

KL wings clipped. AS wings clipped. Too many AI wannabes. AS? Did I miss something? Yes. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1415449 And also an encounter between a MK A359 and an AF B773 last Wednesday at CDG. See topic: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21102411#p...

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by ro1960
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

Yes, but it's not as if they are growing after they are built. In a certain way, they are. Of course not the aircraft themselves, but their replacements. The 767 and A300 had a relatively narrow wing span for their body size, but it was considered normal in those days. Therefor, airports were const...

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by ro1960
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

Re: More and more wing clipping incidents?

sonicruiser wrote:
Yes, planes are getting bigger, and thus more wing clipping incidents.


Yes, but it's not as if they are growing after they are built. Ramps, taxiways, runways are sized accordingly to allow for safe maneuvering. If collision occurs, it means someone failed to comply with procedures, no?

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by ro1960
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More and more wing clipping incidents?
Replies: 70
Views: 4903

More and more wing clipping incidents?

I didn't see this posted, feel free to forward or delete. On Feb. 13, during push-back, a MK A359 (3B-NBQ) got its right winglet clipped after hitting the horizontal stabilizer of a parked AF B777-300ER (F-GSQH) at CDG. Investigation underway. Is it me or these types of incidents are more and more f...

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by ro1960
Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand flight turns back half-way to China
Replies: 36
Views: 8803

Re: Air New Zealand flight turns back half-way to China

coolian2 wrote:
flylondon wrote:
It turned back close to New Caledonia, more like a quarter of the way to China

I suggest an atlas for you


Flylondon is right. Just look at the flight playback on fr24.

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by ro1960
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Logic behind helicopter taxiing
Replies: 65
Views: 12536

Re: Logic behind helicopter taxiing

I always wondered the same thing as I frequently pass by JDP (Héliport de Paris) and didn’t understand the need for a 350m runway there. Thanks for the explanations. https://www.parisaeroport.fr/images/default-source/professionnel-images/aviation_affaires/images-pages-lbg/issy-les-moulineaux/photo-5...

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by ro1960
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vueling cancels 8 destinations from BCN
Replies: 32
Views: 7713

Re: Vueling cancels 8 destinations from BCN

The article says that VY is canceling these destinations to avoid another chaotic summer. Can anyone explain? 2016: https://elpais.com/elpais/2016/07/04/inenglish/1467622396_910185.html Vueling execs called in to explain flight chaos at Barcelona airport https://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2016...

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by ro1960
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vueling cancels 8 destinations from BCN
Replies: 32
Views: 7713

Re: Vueling cancels 8 destinations from BCN

The article says that VY is canceling these destinations to avoid another chaotic summer. Can anyone explain?

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