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by gunsontheroof
Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will anyone pick up AA’s retired MD80’s ?
Replies: 50
Views: 9355

Re: Will anyone pick up AA’s retired MD80’s ?

A few lower-cycle frames might find a second career, but the rest are going under the axe. Is AA donating any of their MDs to MX schools for training? I know FX did so with a number of 727s and I suspect many of those may still be being used as teaching frames, so perhaps there isn't a need.

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL YVR - SEA runs
Replies: 24
Views: 4272

Re: DL YVR - SEA runs

I'll look into this when I'm back at a proper computer, but are any of the mainline AS/DL runs on SEA-YVR that are continuations of XXX-SEA flights? LAX, SFO and PHX come to mind as possibilities, but it wouldn't surprise me if the late flights are mainline just for the sake having one less airplane...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing, Boom Supersonic or ??? looking to open a big factory in British Columbia
Replies: 30
Views: 4146

Re: Boeing, Boom Supersonic or ??? looking to open a big factory in British Columbia

This makes sense that it'll be Boeing. Boeing's headquarters is in Everett which is closer to the Vancouver Metro Area than Downtown Seattle. I went by car from Abbotsford to Seattle and the drive from Abbotsford to Everett takes about 2 hours. Which company wouldn't want to be close to their corpo...

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by gunsontheroof
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do some airlines/airports still rip off a portion of your boarding pass at boarding?
Replies: 10
Views: 2392

Re: Why do some airlines/airports still rip off a portion of your boarding pass at boarding?

Doesn't counting this just become useless today with the proliferation of mobile boarding passes? The count will never be the whole story since some number of customers had no paper. I would assume the torn stubs are counted towards the same expected ticket total along with electronic boarding pass...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: American Football - It's back!
Replies: 86
Views: 2720

Re: FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!

Jags Bears Saints. What say you? I respect your optimism. As for my Seahawks...I'm betting this is the year where our o-line finally collapses in totality and Russell Wilson gets his legs ripped off. Good luck, everyone (except the Pats). Can they win opening day at least I may use them in my knock...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: American Football - It's back!
Replies: 86
Views: 2720

Re: FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!

NIKV69 wrote:

Jags
Bears
Saints.

What say you?


I respect your optimism. As for my Seahawks...I'm betting this is the year where our o-line finally collapses in totality and Russell Wilson gets his legs ripped off. Good luck, everyone (except the Pats).

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by gunsontheroof
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Thread - 2019
Replies: 206
Views: 24837

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Thanks to everyone for sharing their SQ27 shots--nice work! I made a note to watch out for it this evening but ended up getting roped into other plans and forgot to check FR24 for the arrival. Looking forward to catching it someday soon! Definitely cool to see SQ at SEA.

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by gunsontheroof
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian 9981 BFM-SEA circling SeaTac
Replies: 14
Views: 4387

Re: Hawaiian 9981 BFM-SEA circling SeaTac

I planned on posting about this yesterday because I thought it was interesting but I ended up getting bogged down with work. Caught it on final during it's last pass through SEA before it headed up to PAE. Certainly strange seeing an Airbus delivery flight routing through Seattle...

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO
Replies: 218
Views: 21173

Re: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO

I think folks are getting a little carried away with what "wish list" means here...AUS is definitely not going to land all of those flights any time soon (and probably never the full lot), but outside of PEK/PVG, I think AUS could see some additional service to Europe (CDG or AMS seems mos...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Would the 747-8 and A380 sell well if 9/11 didn’t happen.
Replies: 19
Views: 2239

Re: Would the 747-8 and A380 sell well if 9/11 didn’t happen.

The A380 might (MIGHT) have been able to get some additional traction, but the 747-8I showed up way too late for 9/11 to have been a contributing factor to its lackluster sales reports. The industry was already well on its way to a preference for twins before 9/11 and outside of the handful of carri...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing rolls out 787-9 in "Dreams take flight" livery
Replies: 55
Views: 11872

Re: Boeing rolls out 787-9 in "Dreams take flight" livery

Looks terrific! The 787 really lends itself well to some artistic license. Here's hoping that more operators take interest in painting liveries like this from time to time.

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Bands You Were Too Late For
Replies: 14
Views: 891

Re: Bands You Were Too Late For

The Clash are the easy answer for me. I would have loved to have seen that band live, but they called it a ballgame shortly after I landed on this planet.

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Portland prepares for city's largest far-right rally of the Trump era
Replies: 220
Views: 6877

Re: Portland prepares for city's largest far-right rally of the Trump era

Why is it always Portland? You don't have to get too far outside of Portland in any direction before you find the MAGA ragers, militia nuts and Infowars crusaders. Outside of Portland/Eugene, Oregon (and SW Washington) is generally very conservative. It's always in Portland because it's a strongly ...

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Top Gun 2: Maverick - Aircraft, filming, production & rumors thread
Replies: 77
Views: 25497

Re: Top Gun 2: Maverick - Aircraft, filming, production & rumors thread

This looks much cooler than the version I had in mind where Maverick is going through his third divorce, fighting the VA and flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong...

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by gunsontheroof
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada A220 launch - Interior Picture and New routes
Replies: 128
Views: 21530

Re: Air Canada A220 launch - Interior Picture and New routes

Had a feeling YUL-SEA was coming with the A220, great to see that it will be the inaugural for AC to boot! Can't wait to see it next year, congrats to all involved. *I would also note that for how much misguided effort Boeing put into killing the C Series, Montreal-Seattle as an inaugural route for...

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by gunsontheroof
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada A220 launch - Interior Picture and New routes
Replies: 128
Views: 21530

Re: Air Canada A220 launch - Interior Picture and New routes

Had a feeling YUL-SEA was coming with the A220, great to see that it will be the inaugural for AC to boot! Can't wait to see it next year, congrats to all involved. *I would also note that for how much misguided effort Boeing put into killing the C Series, Montreal-Seattle as an inaugural route for ...

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by gunsontheroof
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane
Replies: 43
Views: 5823

Re: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane

Difference being that finding MH370 would bring closure to 239 families and would shed light on the greatest mystery in aviation history, and we could finally know what happened, because as of now we're not 100% sure. Finding a Lockheed plane from the 30s is just something to get a pat on the shoul...

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by gunsontheroof
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane
Replies: 43
Views: 5823

Re: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane

If only he is involved in the search for MH370... Difference being that the search area for MH370 is enormous. Ballard at least had a rough idea of the Titanic's location and while I think this new pursuit for Earhart's plane is futile, at least there are some leads more specific than "souther...

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by gunsontheroof
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane
Replies: 43
Views: 5823

Re: Titanic discoverer to search for Amelia Earhart plane

If only he is involved in the search for MH370... Difference being that the search area for MH370 is enormous. Ballard at least had a rough idea of the Titanic's location and while I think this new pursuit for Earhart's plane is futile, at least there are some leads more specific than "souther...

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by gunsontheroof
Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service
Replies: 247
Views: 37173

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

SeaDoo wrote:
Now Alaska is dropping an LAX spot to add PAE-GEG.
Leaving PAE at 7:55PM
Leaving GEG at 7:40 AM


Interesting development, thanks for posting. I was somewhat surprised that GEG wasn't an initial destination, I'm sure it will do well for them.

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines
Replies: 54
Views: 6336

Re: Bird Logos on Asian Airlines

Why wouldn't they? Many birds hold cultural significance in cultures all around the world, you're branding something associated with flight and they look pretty cool. One that I haven't seen mentioned here is HY's logo, which looks great and is also part of a terrific livery:

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Thread - 2019
Replies: 206
Views: 24837

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built? I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that. Great to see LH is adding MUC-S...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Thread - 2019
Replies: 206
Views: 24837

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Does DL have any interest in serving BLI from SLC? Maybe when the new terminal is built? I swear that they tried this for a summer with a CRJ five or years ago and didn't come back, but I can't locate any information. Maybe one of our DL experts can weigh in on that. Great to see LH is adding MUC-S...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Piedmont..............gone 30 years
Replies: 78
Views: 8624

Re: Piedmont..............gone 30 years

I have no personal memory of Piedmont, but I remember my dad talking about them when I was a kid. They had some really sharp-looking planes.

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can DL Pacific gateway in SEA work?
Replies: 155
Views: 18615

Re: Can DL Pacific gateway in SEA work?

It's probably worth noting that while DL has expanded SEA as a hub, AS has held on to roughly 50% of the market without expanding into international (trans-Pacific) service. Delta's share continues to grow, but they aren't particularly chipping away at Alaska's base. Granted, SEA has seen a pretty a...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD
Replies: 40
Views: 3495

Re: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD

In the 1990 movie, Home Alone, the McCallister family flew from Chicago to Paris on AA DC-10. Does that count? ;) I'd say so--AA even had an ad in between the previews on the initial VHS release. Also worth noting is that Mrs. McCallister ends up on John Candy's truck after AA somehow got her from ...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?
Replies: 35
Views: 7649

Re: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?

QF is the only carrier that makes sense on SYD-SEA given that there would be feed on both ends with the QF/AS partnership. Everything that DL has in its fleet that can reliably make the trip is too much plane for the route, whereas QF could probably make it work with a 787. Even then, I'm not holdi...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?
Replies: 35
Views: 7649

Re: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?

QF is the only carrier that makes sense on SYD-SEA given that there would be feed on both ends with the QF/AS partnership. Everything that DL has in its fleet that can reliably make the trip is too much plane for the route, whereas QF could probably make it work with a 787. Even then, I'm not holdin...

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Planned storming of Area 51 9/20
Replies: 83
Views: 6499

Re: Planned storming of Area 51 9/20

This can't be taken too seriously, but I have to wonder if any of these folks have any idea how far it is from the outer perimeter to Groom Lake. If you're not fully equipped for open desert hiking, you're going to be in for a world of hurt. If I was one of the camo dudes, I'd be tempted to watch th...

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by gunsontheroof
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL
Replies: 188
Views: 14020

Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

I'm a smoker and I don't really see an issue here. I'd say that smoking rooms probably do make more sense at large hub airports like ATL than they do at say, SNA, but as much as I'd like to grab a quick smoke on a layover, it's not the end of the world if I have to wait to get where I'm going and no...

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Commecial aircraft cruise altitude 'no fly' zones
Replies: 16
Views: 3680

Re: Commecial aircraft cruise altitude 'no fly' zones

The “Box” is restricted even to military flights in the range airspace. Heaven forbid you fly thru it by accident. I have read that military pilots who ask if they can use the runway inside "the box" for an emergency landing during training are told they'd better punch out if they can't m...

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by gunsontheroof
Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help Wanted: UAL Honolulu 747 Accident
Replies: 31
Views: 7007

Re: Help Wanted: UAL Honolulu 747 Accident

From the Washington Post via the South Florida Sun Sentinel: "The Honolulu Medical Examiner's Office said later on Friday that "multiple small body fragments and pieces of clothing" were found in one of the right-side engines. Deputy Medical Examiner Mary Flynn said it was not known w...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gulfstream IV Return to BFI?
Replies: 3
Views: 371

Re: Gulfstream IV Return to BFI?

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
I work at BFI and I’ve been here all day. I have not seen or heard any type of emergency vehicle.


I figured someone here might have been around! Thanks for the info!

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by gunsontheroof
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gulfstream IV Return to BFI?
Replies: 3
Views: 371

Gulfstream IV Return to BFI?

I was stuck waiting for the Fremont Bridge in Seattle to close about 45 minutes ago and noticed a G-IV turning west at about 2,000 feet over Lake Union before turning southeast towards BFI. I've never seen this before and when I pulled it up on FR24, it looks like it had just departed BFI minutes be...

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/16/2019:AI Extends JFK Suspension;MF Suspends SEA-SZX;NK Extension;WN AUG MAX Cuts
Replies: 61
Views: 9578

Re: OAG Changes 6/16/2019:AI Extends JFK Suspension;MF Suspends SEA-SZX;NK Extension;WN AUG MAX Cuts

clrd4t8koff wrote:
SEA is way over served to Asia. Not surprising to see MF pull out.


Not surprised to see it go as it likely had heavy subsidy support, but it's a drop in the bucket on SEA-Asia.

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: passenger hits flight attendant, then pukes during Delta flight from IND to CDG
Replies: 100
Views: 13328

Re: passenger hits flight attendant, then pukes during Delta flight from IND to CDG

Rough day for the flight attendant and passengers. Why do some people have to become animals when they fly. Is it drugs and alcohol? More like the abundance of unbundled fares. What did people expect when aviation became yet another form of mass transport. Yes, because on bottom barrel fare paying ...

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by gunsontheroof
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:35 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: White Plains airport (NYC)
Replies: 15
Views: 1971

Re: White Plains airport (NYC)

mysterzip wrote:
I say this respectfully: no.
But hey, someone at PANYNJ wanted to waste its money and “rescue” Stewart. Who knows?!


This.

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by gunsontheroof
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska to announce new Paine Field route this week, along with other changes (June 3rd, 2019)
Replies: 94
Views: 11973

Re: Alaska to announce new Paine Field route this week, along with other changes (June 3rd, 2019)

PlanesNTrains wrote:
PAEGEG would be great. What about PAEPSP? (Is that already served?)


Not currently served, but that seems like a good bet if it's not GEG.

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 96
Views: 19412

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

It's absolutely confounding to me that we've arrived at a point where news gets dismissed as "sensationalism" and "garbage" when a story has sources on record and acknowledgement of the incident (and the breach of protocol) FROM THE AIRLINE IN QUESTION cited in the article. Just ...

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by gunsontheroof
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants
Replies: 96
Views: 19412

Re: Delta Tried To 'Trap' Its Own Flight Attendants

I just read that...and wow...really Delta... With the crappy Reporting today and lack of research does everyone just believe every sensationalism article they read? "Delta acknowledged the Flight 1990 incident in a statement to HuffPost, saying it was a breakdown of company protocol." How...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 28, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.
Replies: 34
Views: 4537

Re: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.

Did the Hong Kong flight operate around the same time as the NRT flight? If so that would mean for just a short while there was a time when DL would have a 777 and a 744 at KSEA at the same time It wasn't for long, but I recall DL having a 744 on SEA-NRT and a 772 on SEA-HKG a few years ago. I don'...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 28, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.
Replies: 34
Views: 4537

Re: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.

Yes. But it’s going to take a few years. Delta’s Pacific Growth Strategy (PGS) includes three strategic vectors. The first is the acquisition of JV agreements with VX, NZ, HA and CX. These are complicated deals involving acquisitions, divestitures, airline alliances, equity investments and multiple...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 28, 2019 3:44 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.
Replies: 34
Views: 4537

Re: Will Delta relaunch SEA-HKG when the A330neos arrive.

Antarius wrote:
Not only do the economics not work for DL, now CX is on the route.


The latter is going to be the main reason DL stays out of SEA-HKG going forward. Between CX and AS, the route now has significant feed/connection opportunities on both ends that DL isn't going to be able to match.

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 28, 2019 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Remaining 737-200s in service
Replies: 32
Views: 5779

Re: Remaining 737-200s in service

chunhimlai wrote:
Is a220 good replacement of B732?


I doubt that any carrier currently operating a B732 can afford an A220, so no.

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by gunsontheroof
Sat May 25, 2019 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up
Replies: 155
Views: 19172

Re: AA191 40 Year Anniversary coming up

MeanGreen wrote:
It appears that the Captain flew the accident aircraft in from PHX. He was then going to be off duty but was assigned to 191.


Actually, if memory serves me correctly, he swapped trips with another pilot he knew when they ran into each other at ORD as a favor.

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by gunsontheroof
Wed May 22, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran conflict a threat to gulf carriers?
Replies: 54
Views: 8775

Re: Iran conflict a threat to gulf carriers?

I would expect any hot war with US / Iran to be over very quickly, similar to Iraq, where the regime fell in a matter of weeks in 2003. Not a comparable situation. Iran in 2019 is not comparable to Iraq in 2003 if we're going to talk about ill-advised wars. Their military isn't in recovery mode fro...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 21, 2019 2:25 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: President Trump Using 757?
Replies: 19
Views: 5409

Re: President Trump Using 757?

So, in situations like this where the C-32s short field performance is preferred, is the VC-25 still somewhere nearby (at a more suitable airport) in case the proverbial shit hits the fan or do the C-32s have sufficient command and control capabilities to function as "the flying White House&quo...

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by gunsontheroof
Tue May 21, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: SEA spotting yesterday....interesting items
Replies: 8
Views: 4814

Re: SEA spotting yesterday....interesting items

SEA is an airport that you wouldn’t want to have an overrun off the north end of the runway at. Going down...https://images.app.goo.gl/cdnFDXkUJSDm8TXQ9 That’s 45 meters in height. Yeah, but there's a pretty fair amount of soft ground from the threshold to the retaining wall. It would have to be on...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: AS trying to get B6
Replies: 302
Views: 42428

Re: Rumor: AS trying to get B6

I don’t know where AS would get the $$$. I’d think the Virgin purchase drained the cash reserves. You’d be wrong. AS has $1.4B in cash on hand plus billions in unencumbered assets and has already paid off half of the cost incurred to buy VX outright. The re-de-leveraging of the balance sheet is hap...

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by gunsontheroof
Mon May 20, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Greater Seattle Airport
Replies: 111
Views: 11850

Re: New Greater Seattle Airport

AirFiero wrote:
Prost wrote:
Knowing how we operate here in Seattle, I doubt anything will happen before 2040.


How far is Moses Lake from downtown Seattle?


Almost 180 miles. I can't believe this idea continues to rise from the dead every few years.

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