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by OlympicATH
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will Delta add new International routes from ATL
Replies: 63
Views: 8406

Re: When will Delta add new International routes from ATL

I think DL adding a third daily to ATH is a matter of time. I'm just thinking it is more likely to be from BOS now. Now that AA started ORD, BOS is the biggest unserved market from ATH. And I believe it's the same for BOS actually. ATL would be all about connections, which could work but not sure th...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEVEL (airlines) struggling?
Replies: 45
Views: 12258

Re: LEVEL (airlines) struggling?

Not to mention that if and when the Air Europa acquisition gets approved, Air Europa is very likely going to get absorbed by Iberia. I don't see the standalone brand surviving, it wouldn't make any sense.
LEVEL is a totally different platform for IAG and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.

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by OlympicATH
Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 53936

Re: Aegean new livery

If that is the design then I’m very disappointed. It is extremely generic and looks like a bad livery from 10 years ago. Nothing about it is memorable and sticks with you. The font is boring and the “logo” looks like it was designed by a 10 year old on Paint. It screams budget/charter, not premium f...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines re-launches Brussels in October 2020
Replies: 41
Views: 7267

Re: Singapore Airlines re-launches Brussels in October 2020

SCQ83 wrote:
Brussels is the last big remaining Euro destination for BOS.


The largest unserved European market out of BOS is actually ATH.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 53936

Re: Aegean new livery

Maybe they will change their entire identity to the name „Olympic“ which is a worldwide recognized name ( also all domestic flights and flights from Athens to Larnaca are already Olympic flights ( operated by Aegean) . Whenever I show my Aegean Miles and Bonus Card at Lounges outside Europe , no on...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 212
Views: 67106

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

https://twitter.com/Frenchpainter/status/1192773371924287489 Aegean's first and also comes with a new livery. While I love the color combination it's literally the same tail design as EI Not “literally” but it’s similar, and so are many other recent liveries out there (Iberia, Qantas, etc.). I’m wa...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HO to start 3 weekly PVG-ATH from Jun 2020
Replies: 17
Views: 2404

Re: HO to start 3 weekly PVG-ATH from Jun 2020

Always good to see more long haul out of ATH but I was hoping China Eastern (or Air China) would pick this one up. Better than nothing I guess but this is a relatively small carrier with very little footprint in Europe. Hope it does well.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada S20 International network changes
Replies: 80
Views: 22038

Re: Air Canada S20 International network changes

YYZ-ATH and YUL-ATH are both increasing from 7 to 9 weekly based on current schedules. This was meant to happen this year but didn’t because of the MAX situation and the need to use some Rouge 767s to compensate.

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by OlympicATH
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Growth and future of Ethiopian airlines
Replies: 173
Views: 32710

Re: Growth and future of Ethiopian airlines

Can we have a summary of ET's new routes of 2019...and what was planned but didn't materialize...struggle to keep up. ie. Moscow and IST was to start together, then split and now one going via another point, the other increasing. Beira recently started, but via a different stop than originally plan...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL to fly from BOS to LGW and MAN, seasonally FCO as well as 2nd daily flight to CDG
Replies: 282
Views: 49127

Re: Rumor: DL announcing new BOS routes next week.

all the BOS fanboys are sad its not BOM... No - sad its not ATH but its probably a tough one to make money on even in summer. I also really thought ATH stood a chance. I don't think it wouldn't make money, DL's prices to ATH out of JFK are sky high and US-Greece traffic is booming. Their priority w...

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by OlympicATH
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL to fly from BOS to LGW and MAN, seasonally FCO as well as 2nd daily flight to CDG
Replies: 282
Views: 49127

Re: Rumor: DL announcing new BOS routes next week.

And which are the TOP 10 unserved O&Ds in Europe? Out of the top 15 listed above, the only one not currently served from BOS is ATH. By the way, BOS also happens to be ATH’s top unserved North American route. ATH officials were quoted a few weeks ago saying there would be big long-haul developm...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL to fly from BOS to LGW and MAN, seasonally FCO as well as 2nd daily flight to CDG
Replies: 282
Views: 49127

Re: Rumor: DL announcing new BOS routes next week.

Would love to see BOS-ATH although I think this is still a few years away. And DL might want to resume ATL-ATH first.

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by OlympicATH
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA CLT growth
Replies: 120
Views: 22301

Re: AA CLT growth

AA as of right now is pretty limited is correct for international expansion until they get more gates to work with, CLT-ATH comes to mind in potential new seasonal routes, year-round ones would be like CLT-AMS and ZRH I don’t think CLT-ATH would come before JFK-ATH. I also think DL resuming ATL-ATH...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unconfirmed: BA to make major 2020 TATL expansion later this week
Replies: 158
Views: 32593

Re: Unconfirmed: BA to make major 2020 TATL expansion later this week

Are any American posters here able to comprehend that TATL doesn't necessarily mean a city in the US? What about cities in Canada, central, and South America that BA could serve? Instead of 'I wonder if BA will fly to <insert random-Podunkville-backwater-town> . :boggled: As I said earlier--post #7...

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by OlympicATH
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Past: Olympic Airways receives their 1st Boeing 747
Replies: 20
Views: 5527

Re: Airliners Past: Olympic Airways receives their 1st Boeing 747

I saw "Zeus" at SYD when Olympic briefly served that city in the mid-1970s. "Zeus"! One fell of an appropriate name for a 747! OA flew to Sydney from 1972 to 2004 so more than just “briefly”. They might have temporarily suspended the route once or twice during that period but ov...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 2702
Views: 414014

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Not sure how well LOT would do in BOS. If SK is still struggling I would think LOT would have an even tougher time. Should any additional *A carriers come in I think we'd see Austrian first, then perhaps SN Brussels. I still think the next European destination from BOS will be either ATH or MXP. AT...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 934
Views: 164582

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

American 767 wrote:
I believe that there was a time when they flew to Lyon, from JFK, but that didn't last long.


I believe that was DL, not AA.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 9908

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

Glad you found them! You are correct in your calculation but don't forget, this is EWR we are talking about and United flies the route on a summer seasonal basis, that is why it was 30.000 in June. :) Ah correct! For some reason I thought it was EK only. Based on these numbers it doesn't look bad a...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Emirates 'might' launch DXB-PRG-BOS/ORD
Replies: 34
Views: 8161

Re: Rumor: Emirates 'might' launch DXB-PRG-BOS/ORD

Having said that I think DXB-ATH-BOS would be a better choice. In a few years they'll be able top do this with 787's. I agree. Last year 65,700 people travelled between ATH and BOS. Now that ORD is served by AA, BOS is the No1 unserved destination from ATH after SYD and MEL (and these won't happen ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 9908

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

Here are the some numbers for ATH-EWR: April. 2017: 6.469 2018: 16.739 May. 2017: 15.278 2018: 20.367 June. 2017: 30.233 2018: 29,076 I wonder if the June drop was due to AA's ORD flights and UA losing some transfer passengers from Chicago. Blerg - thanks a lot for posting these. Couple of question...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 9908

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

JFK to ATH on AA makes some degree of sense, given the heavy demand there is for seats to Greece in May-September and AA can operate it seasonally, with a 777-200ER. It would be mostly an O&D operation, which is what JFK is for AA, not a major source of connections. AA would face competition fr...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian Trans-Atlantic service route cuts in W19?
Replies: 37
Views: 7781

Re: Norwegian Trans-Atlantic service route cuts in W19?

Blerg wrote:
You should add to your list the recently announced JFK-ATH.


That is a seasonal service, was never meant to be operated in the winter.

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by OlympicATH
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus adds A321neoLR to LHR
Replies: 13
Views: 3602

Re: Aer Lingus adds A321NEOLR to LHR

EK77WNH wrote:
Sounds like a good training route...even DUB-SNN would be a smart one to build proficiency on the new type before they stretch its legs.


Aer Lingus do not operate DUB-SNN flights.

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 934
Views: 164582

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

With Delta 2x, United 1x at Newark and Norwegian starting service July 1st not sure if it would be in AA interest to start JFK-ATH unless they look to dominate that market. I'm interested in 2020 announcements for foreign travel hopefully they release something in August like they have the past two...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 44660

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

I wouldn't forget about ATH. In fact i'm a little shocked they added LIS instead of ATH this Summer. I'm not. LIS is easily within 757 range from BOS (ATH is not) and there are relatively strong ties between Portugal and the Boston/Providence region and especially the South Coast of Mass. Delta isn...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AZUL Announces OPO
Replies: 24
Views: 5172

Re: AZUL Announces OPO

Does TP operate OPO-GRU on an OPO-based 332? My impression was always that they had one 332 based there for flights to EWR, GRU and GIG (2x weekly each I believe). With EWR now moving to to the 321 (and frequencies increased from 2x to 5x, which makes sense), I wonder what this means for the Brazili...

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by OlympicATH
Thu May 09, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 934
Views: 164582

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

From PHL, I would expect BCN to go year-round before BUD or PRG. It's a bigger market and is also served from JFK and MIA (year-round) and ORD and CLT (summer). Then I would expect ATH and probably EDI to go year-round. But all of these are long shots. Very seasonal markets overall and there are oth...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore's Scoot Announces Route Suspensions
Replies: 17
Views: 6305

Re: Singapore's Scoot Announces Route Suspensions

I wonder how ATH and TXL are doing. Pretty relieved not to see them on the list of suspensions.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO
Replies: 77
Views: 12893

Re: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO

jfk777 wrote:
Air Canada's attention to Montreal in recent years has been high, traditionally a European gateway. Last year they started nonstops to Tokyo and now Sao Paulo, cities until now only flown from their main Toronto hub.


Fully agree, plus Shanghai which was added in 2017.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 14129

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

It's a shame UA and A3 don't have a better relationship. UA could launch either LAX or SFO and make the most of Aegean's regional network, especially to the Middle East and to places such as Georgia or Armenia. Agree, although IAD (and possibly ORD) would be added before the West Coast. I'm still s...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO
Replies: 135
Views: 18254

Re: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO

In fact, Air France-KLM only owns 49% of KLM. The other shares are in the hands of several foundations, the Dutch government and some private share holders. Incorrect. Air France-KLM owns 94% of KLM. They only have 49% of dividend rights given the structure that was set up during the merger. The tw...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1170
Views: 217049

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

yeogeo wrote:
Did they announce ATH? I'm a little hazy on American's Summer seasonal routes.


Yes, daily summer seasonal 788 starting May 3.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 14129

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

If Greece had, in a different continent, a large ex-colony that had Greek as its main language, something like Portugal and Brazil, surely Olympic Airways today would be as successful as TAP Air Portugal. I doubt it. KLM isn't successful because of the former colonies of The Netherlands and Sabena ...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 14129

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

Orthodox Easter is celebrated AFTER Passover always. Could be early, could be late...depends on year Whatever service is added, we are talking JFK ORD BOS YYZ at most +YUL and maybe IAD. It is a relatively short flight and IAD is a star hub on top of having its own demand to/from Greece. Don’t reme...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 481
Views: 63904

Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

I was looking at some BEY-ATH flights and I have two questions: 1. Is ME increasing flights? I see there are 10 weekly scheuled for this summer season. I thought it was daily before. 2. Is Alitalia cutting its own flights as none are scheduled so far. 1. Seems like it indeed 2. Alitalia does not fl...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European destinations no longer served by DL
Replies: 59
Views: 8317

Re: European destinations no longer served by DL

It’s noteworthy that in spite of all the dropped routes, DL is still the #1 Transatlantic airline. This is not even including their partners. https://www.anna.aero/2018/04/18/transatlantic-treks-europe-americas-us-majors-lead-way-s18-london-heathrow-tops-airport-table/ https://www.anna.aero/wp-cont...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European destinations no longer served by DL
Replies: 59
Views: 8317

Re: European destinations no longer served by DL

It’s noteworthy that in spite of all the dropped routes, DL is still the #1 Transatlantic airline. This is not even including their partners. https://www.anna.aero/2018/04/18/transatlantic-treks-europe-americas-us-majors-lead-way-s18-london-heathrow-tops-airport-table/ https://www.anna.aero/wp-cont...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cobalt Air In Trouble
Replies: 49
Views: 9891

Re: Cobalt Air In Trouble

I have to wonder if A3 will assume some more of the traffic at LCA...although their planes are larger (minus the lone A319). I know A3 is all Airbus A320-family operator, but the Airbus A220-100 and -300 would be a model that could be really suited for operations to and from LCA, and adjustable wit...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 305
Views: 38059

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

Is this the first time in commercial aviation history that Chicago and Athens will be connected with a non-stop flight? I know Olympic was at ORD for a few years in the 90s, but their flight was through JFK. Right? OA actually launched flights to Chicago in 1969 via Montreal. I think they tried dif...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal incredible expansion
Replies: 41
Views: 10522

Re: TAP Portugal incredible expansion

ATH I'm sure they'd like to give ATH another shot but I think that ship has sailed, at least for now until the market grows. Aegean started service a couple of years ago and the route has been very successful for them. There will be 8 weekly flights next summer. A3 also launched a seasonal ATH-OPO ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston aviation - 2018
Replies: 2468
Views: 244118

Re: Boston aviation - 2018

DL has two daily JFK-ATH flights in the summer. Used to be 2x 333, this year it was changed to 1x 333 and 1x 764. There used to be an ATL-ATH flight I'd say about 10-15 years ago that operated a few summers. It was never brought back, they added a second JFK flight instead. I do agree that BOS-ATH i...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC
Replies: 12
Views: 1961

Re: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC

Kuwait does not show up on schedules for next year and I'm afraid Tehran has also been zeroed out after this summer season.

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by OlympicATH
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH
Replies: 7
Views: 1546

Re: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH

Not sure exactly what traffic they’re after. While eastbound connections work well from the americas, westbound doesn’t work at all (it requires a night in Casablanca). Ryanair is also starting ATH-RAK next month. RAM served ATH in the past (I think in the 90s) but I assume they were mainly targetin...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 126
Views: 17310

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

Once again, ATH is a summer route with all discounted travel. The business climate in Greece, unless you are working on restructuring debt, is not very good. Hence the demand for high paying business fares is pretty much non-existent. The local Greek community may want a lot of things, but this is ...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 126
Views: 17310

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

Yes, peculiar they haven't added ATH or VCE from another gateway. I was actually holding my breath for ORD-ATH and AA beat them to it out of nowhere. UA will now have the smallest presence out of the three US majors in ATH (despite the Star Alliance link) with its one daily 767 to EWR. I can see IA...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Air Maroc Launches Miami in April 2019
Replies: 19
Views: 4398

Re: Royal Air Maroc Launches Miami in April 2019

What traffic are they after? Pardon my ignorance but I can’t think of any obvious ties between Morocco and Florida.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Airports in Europe or North America?
Replies: 19
Views: 2611

Re: New Airports in Europe or North America?

If this happens Crete will have 4 commercial airports (it currently has 3). Chania, Heraklion, Sitia and Kasteli. Current HER is scheduled to shut down once the new airport opens. There is no need for two airports in Heraklion so close to each other. Yes it’s an expansion of the existing military a...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Naples, Italy (+46,1% PAX Q1) booming. Could the US3 / ME3 fly there?
Replies: 71
Views: 10385

Re: Naples, Italy (+46,1% PAX Q1) booming. Could the US3 / ME3 fly there?

Markets like AGP/VCE/ATH/PMO/NAP/NCE have low demand outside summer months, little business demand and have no chances at going year-round on UA or DL. Although it’s not a big business hub, can’t put ATH In the same bucket as AGP or PMO in my opinion. It’s a capital city of 4 million people and is ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Airports in Europe or North America?
Replies: 19
Views: 2611

Re: New Airports in Europe or North America?

The new HER in Greece. Current airport has been over capacity for years.

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