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by OlympicATH
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 415
Views: 61739

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

American 767 wrote:
I believe that there was a time when they flew to Lyon, from JFK, but that didn't last long.


I believe that was DL, not AA.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 8964

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

Glad you found them! You are correct in your calculation but don't forget, this is EWR we are talking about and United flies the route on a summer seasonal basis, that is why it was 30.000 in June. :) Ah correct! For some reason I thought it was EK only. Based on these numbers it doesn't look bad a...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Emirates 'might' launch DXB-PRG-BOS/ORD
Replies: 33
Views: 6776

Re: Rumor: Emirates 'might' launch DXB-PRG-BOS/ORD

Having said that I think DXB-ATH-BOS would be a better choice. In a few years they'll be able top do this with 787's. I agree. Last year 65,700 people travelled between ATH and BOS. Now that ORD is served by AA, BOS is the No1 unserved destination from ATH after SYD and MEL (and these won't happen ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 8964

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

Here are the some numbers for ATH-EWR: April. 2017: 6.469 2018: 16.739 May. 2017: 15.278 2018: 20.367 June. 2017: 30.233 2018: 29,076 I wonder if the June drop was due to AA's ORD flights and UA losing some transfer passengers from Chicago. Blerg - thanks a lot for posting these. Couple of question...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH and AA will it grow?
Replies: 58
Views: 8964

Re: ATH and AA will it grow?

JFK to ATH on AA makes some degree of sense, given the heavy demand there is for seats to Greece in May-September and AA can operate it seasonally, with a 777-200ER. It would be mostly an O&D operation, which is what JFK is for AA, not a major source of connections. AA would face competition fr...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian Trans-Atlantic service route cuts in W19?
Replies: 37
Views: 7279

Re: Norwegian Trans-Atlantic service route cuts in W19?

Blerg wrote:
You should add to your list the recently announced JFK-ATH.


That is a seasonal service, was never meant to be operated in the winter.

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by OlympicATH
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus adds A321neoLR to LHR
Replies: 13
Views: 3298

Re: Aer Lingus adds A321NEOLR to LHR

EK77WNH wrote:
Sounds like a good training route...even DUB-SNN would be a smart one to build proficiency on the new type before they stretch its legs.


Aer Lingus do not operate DUB-SNN flights.

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 415
Views: 61739

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

With Delta 2x, United 1x at Newark and Norwegian starting service July 1st not sure if it would be in AA interest to start JFK-ATH unless they look to dominate that market. I'm interested in 2020 announcements for foreign travel hopefully they release something in August like they have the past two...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 304
Views: 41046

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

I wouldn't forget about ATH. In fact i'm a little shocked they added LIS instead of ATH this Summer. I'm not. LIS is easily within 757 range from BOS (ATH is not) and there are relatively strong ties between Portugal and the Boston/Providence region and especially the South Coast of Mass. Delta isn...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AZUL Announces OPO
Replies: 23
Views: 4993

Re: AZUL Announces OPO

Does TP operate OPO-GRU on an OPO-based 332? My impression was always that they had one 332 based there for flights to EWR, GRU and GIG (2x weekly each I believe). With EWR now moving to to the 321 (and frequencies increased from 2x to 5x, which makes sense), I wonder what this means for the Brazili...

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by OlympicATH
Thu May 09, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 415
Views: 61739

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

From PHL, I would expect BCN to go year-round before BUD or PRG. It's a bigger market and is also served from JFK and MIA (year-round) and ORD and CLT (summer). Then I would expect ATH and probably EDI to go year-round. But all of these are long shots. Very seasonal markets overall and there are oth...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore's Scoot Announces Route Suspensions
Replies: 17
Views: 6166

Re: Singapore's Scoot Announces Route Suspensions

I wonder how ATH and TXL are doing. Pretty relieved not to see them on the list of suspensions.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO
Replies: 77
Views: 11851

Re: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO

jfk777 wrote:
Air Canada's attention to Montreal in recent years has been high, traditionally a European gateway. Last year they started nonstops to Tokyo and now Sao Paulo, cities until now only flown from their main Toronto hub.


Fully agree, plus Shanghai which was added in 2017.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 13755

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

It's a shame UA and A3 don't have a better relationship. UA could launch either LAX or SFO and make the most of Aegean's regional network, especially to the Middle East and to places such as Georgia or Armenia. Agree, although IAD (and possibly ORD) would be added before the West Coast. I'm still s...

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by OlympicATH
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO
Replies: 134
Views: 17582

Re: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO

In fact, Air France-KLM only owns 49% of KLM. The other shares are in the hands of several foundations, the Dutch government and some private share holders. Incorrect. Air France-KLM owns 94% of KLM. They only have 49% of dividend rights given the structure that was set up during the merger. The tw...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 668
Views: 104534

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2019

yeogeo wrote:
Did they announce ATH? I'm a little hazy on American's Summer seasonal routes.


Yes, daily summer seasonal 788 starting May 3.

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by OlympicATH
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 13755

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

If Greece had, in a different continent, a large ex-colony that had Greek as its main language, something like Portugal and Brazil, surely Olympic Airways today would be as successful as TAP Air Portugal. I doubt it. KLM isn't successful because of the former colonies of The Netherlands and Sabena ...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Low cost long haul for Greece
Replies: 93
Views: 13755

Re: Low cost long haul for Greece

Orthodox Easter is celebrated AFTER Passover always. Could be early, could be late...depends on year Whatever service is added, we are talking JFK ORD BOS YYZ at most +YUL and maybe IAD. It is a relatively short flight and IAD is a star hub on top of having its own demand to/from Greece. Don’t reme...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 304
Views: 33410

Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

I was looking at some BEY-ATH flights and I have two questions: 1. Is ME increasing flights? I see there are 10 weekly scheuled for this summer season. I thought it was daily before. 2. Is Alitalia cutting its own flights as none are scheduled so far. 1. Seems like it indeed 2. Alitalia does not fl...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European destinations no longer served by DL
Replies: 59
Views: 8057

Re: European destinations no longer served by DL

It’s noteworthy that in spite of all the dropped routes, DL is still the #1 Transatlantic airline. This is not even including their partners. https://www.anna.aero/2018/04/18/transatlantic-treks-europe-americas-us-majors-lead-way-s18-london-heathrow-tops-airport-table/ https://www.anna.aero/wp-cont...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European destinations no longer served by DL
Replies: 59
Views: 8057

Re: European destinations no longer served by DL

It’s noteworthy that in spite of all the dropped routes, DL is still the #1 Transatlantic airline. This is not even including their partners. https://www.anna.aero/2018/04/18/transatlantic-treks-europe-americas-us-majors-lead-way-s18-london-heathrow-tops-airport-table/ https://www.anna.aero/wp-cont...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cobalt Air In Trouble
Replies: 49
Views: 9626

Re: Cobalt Air In Trouble

I have to wonder if A3 will assume some more of the traffic at LCA...although their planes are larger (minus the lone A319). I know A3 is all Airbus A320-family operator, but the Airbus A220-100 and -300 would be a model that could be really suited for operations to and from LCA, and adjustable wit...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 305
Views: 36631

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

Is this the first time in commercial aviation history that Chicago and Athens will be connected with a non-stop flight? I know Olympic was at ORD for a few years in the 90s, but their flight was through JFK. Right? OA actually launched flights to Chicago in 1969 via Montreal. I think they tried dif...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal incredible expansion
Replies: 41
Views: 10113

Re: TAP Portugal incredible expansion

ATH I'm sure they'd like to give ATH another shot but I think that ship has sailed, at least for now until the market grows. Aegean started service a couple of years ago and the route has been very successful for them. There will be 8 weekly flights next summer. A3 also launched a seasonal ATH-OPO ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston aviation - 2018
Replies: 2468
Views: 233206

Re: Boston aviation - 2018

DL has two daily JFK-ATH flights in the summer. Used to be 2x 333, this year it was changed to 1x 333 and 1x 764. There used to be an ATL-ATH flight I'd say about 10-15 years ago that operated a few summers. It was never brought back, they added a second JFK flight instead. I do agree that BOS-ATH i...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC
Replies: 12
Views: 1869

Re: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC

Kuwait does not show up on schedules for next year and I'm afraid Tehran has also been zeroed out after this summer season.

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by OlympicATH
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH
Replies: 7
Views: 1400

Re: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH

Not sure exactly what traffic they’re after. While eastbound connections work well from the americas, westbound doesn’t work at all (it requires a night in Casablanca). Ryanair is also starting ATH-RAK next month. RAM served ATH in the past (I think in the 90s) but I assume they were mainly targetin...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 126
Views: 16771

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

Once again, ATH is a summer route with all discounted travel. The business climate in Greece, unless you are working on restructuring debt, is not very good. Hence the demand for high paying business fares is pretty much non-existent. The local Greek community may want a lot of things, but this is ...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 126
Views: 16771

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

Yes, peculiar they haven't added ATH or VCE from another gateway. I was actually holding my breath for ORD-ATH and AA beat them to it out of nowhere. UA will now have the smallest presence out of the three US majors in ATH (despite the Star Alliance link) with its one daily 767 to EWR. I can see IA...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Air Maroc Launches Miami in April 2019
Replies: 19
Views: 4115

Re: Royal Air Maroc Launches Miami in April 2019

What traffic are they after? Pardon my ignorance but I can’t think of any obvious ties between Morocco and Florida.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Airports in Europe or North America?
Replies: 19
Views: 2500

Re: New Airports in Europe or North America?

If this happens Crete will have 4 commercial airports (it currently has 3). Chania, Heraklion, Sitia and Kasteli. Current HER is scheduled to shut down once the new airport opens. There is no need for two airports in Heraklion so close to each other. Yes it’s an expansion of the existing military a...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Naples, Italy (+46,1% PAX Q1) booming. Could the US3 / ME3 fly there?
Replies: 71
Views: 10198

Re: Naples, Italy (+46,1% PAX Q1) booming. Could the US3 / ME3 fly there?

Markets like AGP/VCE/ATH/PMO/NAP/NCE have low demand outside summer months, little business demand and have no chances at going year-round on UA or DL. Although it’s not a big business hub, can’t put ATH In the same bucket as AGP or PMO in my opinion. It’s a capital city of 4 million people and is ...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Airports in Europe or North America?
Replies: 19
Views: 2500

Re: New Airports in Europe or North America?

The new HER in Greece. Current airport has been over capacity for years.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC
Replies: 12
Views: 1869

Re: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC

Flying from Spain to Greek islands tends to be quite expensive and tortuous with connections. Depends. Iberia Express and Vueling fly nonstop from Madrid and Barcelona respectively to Heraklion, Mykonos and Santorini in the summer. And Aegean offers smooth connections via ATH from Madrid, Barcelona...

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by OlympicATH
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route
Replies: 145
Views: 29233

Re: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route

Melbourne is actually the 3rd or 4th largest Greek city in the world. Thessaloniki (the country's second largest city) has 1 million inhabitants and I think NYC might have more Greeks (all generations included) than Melbourne. A couple of interesting data points: 1) When OA flew from Athens to MEL a...

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by OlympicATH
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad CEO lays out restructuring plans
Replies: 146
Views: 31103

Re: Etihad CEO lays out restructuring plans

There's probably a better chance of getting Disney into N.Korea than getting EY and EK to work together. Says who? They are already cooperating in various areas and Etihad is even lending pilots to Emirates at the moment. And they could deepen these ties to include procurement, fleet, etc. This stu...

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by OlympicATH
Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA dropping Calgary effective October for winter sced.
Replies: 53
Views: 10302

Re: BA dropping Calgary effective October for winter sced.

To put things into perspective for the size of city YYC did well last year at least in comparison to YUL. Calgary being a third of the population of Montreal moved just under 2 million less passengers last year at just over 16 million than YUL at just over 18 million. Edmonton being a city of simil...

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by OlympicATH
Wed May 23, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates A380 to Athens
Replies: 30
Views: 7583

Re: Emirates A380 to Athens

The satellite terminal was indeed reactivated (I believe over a year ago) and is used mainly by LCCs. I boarded an easyJet flight to Gatwick from there a few months ago and there were other low-cost flights boarding at the same time (I remember easyJet to Manchester). It looks like plans to build an...

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by OlympicATH
Thu May 17, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which airlines are on the waiting list to operate into Heathrow?
Replies: 40
Views: 8577

Re: Which airlines are on the waiting list to operate into Heathrow?

This article from four years ago mentions airlines from North America, South America and Asia. I think Aero Mexico and Avianca have started since then as have Capital Airlines and Hainan. I can't imagine what other North American airlines could or would want to operate into LHR? Either because they...

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by OlympicATH
Tue May 15, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Jordanian to add 23 new plane
Replies: 13
Views: 3750

Re: Royal Jordanian to add 23 new plane

Can Royal Jordanian overfly all neighbouring countries? Yes it can, however this depends on the destination of the flight (as some neighbouring countries do not have bilateral relations). As a result RJ cannot overfly Israel when flying AMM-BEY and, given that RJ doesn't overfly Syria at the moment...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ considering 3rd ULH destination and additional A359LRs
Replies: 114
Views: 18589

Re: SQ considering 3rd ULH destination and additional A359LRs

Perhaps YYZ, which is also a Star Alliance hub through AC, and the third biggest metro area in the US and Canada (after NYC and LAX). Yields might also be better at YYZ, given the restrictions placed on the ME3 in Canada, who would likely carry some ASEAN-bound traffic. Cheers, C. The third largest...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK ATH-EWR performance?
Replies: 23
Views: 6986

Re: EK ATH-EWR performance?

I was thinking something, EK just canceled one of the daily A380 to JFK and move to B77W to EWR, so now EWR has a direct flight to DXB, why not moving the daily DXB-ATH-EWR to JFK and offer the option for pax to connect to Jetblue network in JFK?? I think having the only non stop option to the USA ...

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by OlympicATH
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: World's best airports for 2018 named by Skytrax
Replies: 52
Views: 8747

Re: World's best airports for 2018 named by Skytrax

They have never been to ATH or ARN or the old Delhi airport! What is your problem with ATH exactly? Or ARN for that matter. And what do you mean the old DEL? ATH might not be an architectural gem but that's not the point. It is super clean, very easy to navigate, services are great, there are very ...

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by OlympicATH
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wizz Air closing bases incl. Prague
Replies: 59
Views: 9057

Re: Wizz Air closing bases incl. Prague

Czech Republic is wealthy enough not to have a massive diaspora in Western Europe, such as Romania or Ukraine. Probably as today, ATH is more a "VFR shuttler" than PRG. Slightly off topic but this entire speech is incorrect to say the least. Yes Greece has been through a rough decade larg...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEVEL hub in MAD....out of BCN
Replies: 29
Views: 5712

Re: LEVEL hub in MAD....out of BCN

LupineChemist wrote:
Air Nostrum, BA City Flyer and Aer Lingus also serve MAD. EI isn't even in the same terminal.

So you can put 8 airlines there.


Air Nostrum is not owned by IAG.

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by OlympicATH
Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights
Replies: 192
Views: 26553

Re: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights

usairways85 wrote:
Quite a bit of capacity add to Portugal in S18
DL: ATL-LIS
AA: PHL-LIS 752>763
UA: EWR-OPO, IAD-LIS


+ DL JFK-PDL, just announced

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by OlympicATH
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean evaluating A320neo and 737 MAX
Replies: 11
Views: 2426

Re: Aegean evaluating A320neo and 737 MAX

OA260 wrote:
Airbus already has it ... case closed. ;).


Source?

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by OlympicATH
Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A3 returning LHR-LCA-LHR slots to VS?
Replies: 26
Views: 6888

Re: A3 returning LHR-LCA-LHR slots to VS?

How certain is it that A3 will be returning the slot? I'm surprised this didn't work out for A3. The times are quite convenient (A3 has a successful flight from ATH roughly at the same time) and while Cobalt has added a lot of capacity from LCA to London, they don't fly to LHR so I thought this woul...

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by OlympicATH
Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH - North American Routes
Replies: 116
Views: 17247

Re: ATH - North American Routes

A3(if they ever do decide to fly to the USA)should stay clear of JFK/EWR/YYZ, as that would be redundant, and they would lose money, big-time against the US3. If anything, it would be ORD/BOS, or possibly IAD/DTW that would make sense. Why would they lose money against the US carriers? A3's unit co...

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by OlympicATH
Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATH - North American Routes
Replies: 116
Views: 17247

Re: ATH - North American Routes

Yes ATH is a very seasonal market but over the cycle there is demand for NA year round. The issue is that demand generating in Greece (i.e. Greece based Greeks) has collapsed in the past few years with the crisis and austerity, making seasonality worse. For decades OA used to fly to NA in the winter...

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