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by Devilfish
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

So now... @ Arianespace has posted in his blog a Nov 2023 LN&A graphic of the potential candidates for the A330ceo replacement in PAL 's fleet..... http://philippine-aviation-forum.259.s1.nabble.com/Airlines-In-The-Philippines-III-td5255.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-lpKZoboAAJTaP?format=jp...

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by Devilfish
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:24 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

Real air to ground combat operations usually has less fatigue usage than in peace time training. For instance the F-16N aggressor aircraft for the Navy were fatigued after only 10 years of continuously dogfight training. Exactly why they are buying back more F-5E s from Switzerland...as the Red Haw...

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by Devilfish
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Any chances of PR however starting direct flights between India and the Philippines soon now that the tensions between India and Pakistan have gone back to normal? It all depends on market demand and the availability of suitable aircraft. As cited above, PR 's deferred A321N s won't start arriving ...

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by Devilfish
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:09 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

Israel aren't replacing their older aircraft because they are worn out. They simply want improved capabilities. Israel has around 100 F-16I and their entire fleet is less than 20 years old as deliveries started in 2004. They still have plenty of life left and are perfect for the Philippines. Of F-1...

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by Devilfish
Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Looks like we might have MNL-DEL flights sooner rather than later on AI: Well, the DoT is inviting more airline (not just AI ) flights into other local gateways ..... :point: https://malaya.com.ph/news_business/dot-bats-for-more-air-seats-flights/?amp Quote: "Frasco said it is encouraging carr...

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by Devilfish
Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

VN can tap into Europe and Australia 6th freedom traffic. Also, there’s growing VN-PH traffic. Both economies are growing together. VN has to grow the route first. While there's probably little leisure traffic ex HAN and SGN to the Philippines, Europeans transiting there who are not focused on MNL ...

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by Devilfish
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle
Replies: 51
Views: 6831

Re: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle

I think JX is offering split timings on its CEB/CRK-TPE vv service to allow minimal connection on both legs That should work in their favor, maximizing the number of transiting passengers JX could fly to SEA from their hub in TPE . I am not sure how many Manila pax they can get from Clark. Maybe th...

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by Devilfish
Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle
Replies: 51
Views: 6831

Re: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle

JX still flies Cebu and Clark, how many pax would transfer at Manila instead of Taipei? JX's decision to pull out of MNL makes a lot of sense if everyone believes PR will start a price war. Well, JX is offering connecting service from CEB to SEA via TPE ...easy enough to do same from CRK if the tim...

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by Devilfish
Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:56 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

Has the final call for Super Hornets been made? The production line is closing in 2025. We know that the US government loves to find ways to keep their fighter production lines open. Well, the U.S. Navy had recently agreed to a final production run of 17 new-build Super Bugs until 2027 . :wideeyed:...

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by Devilfish
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2024/04/pal-finally-secures-seattle.html The article mentioned that PAL last flew to Seattle back in 1998 . I doubt that happened (maybe not a scheduled service?) and instead was the Manila-Newark route via Vancouver. I seem to vaguely recall seeing advertisem...

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by Devilfish
Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

A321ceo Retrofit From PAF -- posted by: @ JNC03 ..... Quite nice! :thumbsup: http://philippine-aviation-forum.259.s1.nabble.com/file/n5241/FB_IMG_1712324997101.jpg Perhaps PR could persuade Avolon to also lease them some A339 s to replace their ceos ? :spin: http://philippine-aviation-forum.259.s1....

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by Devilfish
Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HU potentially ordering up to 20 339s
Replies: 20
Views: 5766

Re: HU potentially ordering up to 20 339s

scbriml wrote:
Hmm, well that sounds like a slam-dunk, then.

I can't help but wonder if 5J's recent SLB transaction with Avolon for four new A339s would be sourced from this lot? :scratchchin:

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by Devilfish
Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

From the banner page - nostalgic photo of Air Philippines 737-266Adv @ EZE ...would be a familiar name in case LTG spin off 2P ? ..... :spin: 7534835 Hope PAL could reintroduce foreign crew again, to bring back the international airline vibes. They could also hire Malaysian Chinese crew for China, T...

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by Devilfish
Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle
Replies: 51
Views: 6831

Re: Philippine to launch Manila to Seattle

MNL - 92,046 paying US$ 960 one way with YQ included Since they would have a monopoly on MNL-SEA which by itself is quite big with a decent average fare level, they should do fine + get good incremental transit feed. Promo rates now set at $797 one way - and $1,121 return. This during the start of ...

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by Devilfish
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

what else can PR add in North America? ORD, IAD? As a follow up to this, I found mention of IAH and ORD in a blog, for 2027 - in time with A35K delivery..... http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ Quote: "It manifested intent to fly Houston and Chicago as their sixth and seventh destination b...

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by Devilfish
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

I think the A359 would make the most sense but doubt they'd use it on MNL-SEA with only 2 in the fleet unless they do some equipment shuffling. They did pick up an additional 77W from Garuda recently which could theoretically work, but that'd be a lot of seats for a fairly long/thin route. It has j...

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by Devilfish
Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

The route's launch was placed in doubt after UA complained to the DOT that they should get approval for a second daily GUM-MNL before PR could launch SEA; it appears to be moot now since they received approval for SEA-MNL last year. The question is with what aircraft? Likely metal are PR 's loaned ...

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by Devilfish
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CONNIE Smokes!!!
Replies: 1
Views: 1394

CONNIE Smokes!!!

Came across this while surfing the web this drizzly Easter morning...goes great with hot coffee and croissant! :cloudnine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97XvIy23Vg4 Wonder if Winky's Fish became a part donor for her :coffee: remembering that Aussies came some years back to collect N4247K from MNL ...

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by Devilfish
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New RAAF 737Max8 BBJ
Replies: 5
Views: 803

Re: New RAAF 737Max8 BBJ

The latest issue with the door bolt does not impact the MAX 8 or MAX 9. The quality issue with Spirit does impact the 737 line. So TBD? Plenty of immaterial things were indeed 'discussed' in the comments under the video. So, would the 'D' in that mean the 'real' issues with Spirit are going to be '...

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by Devilfish
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker Next Gen Update
Replies: 13
Views: 2903

Re: Fokker Next Gen Update

The first picture looks like a F-100 with GTF engines..... Sponsored by Adidas . :duck: Would have looked cooler if they made it a pusher ..... 8-) https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfAIIV2ws5soCze11TTxeRrOmejHy0vOJ72RZfcOK7ItKGp5KnsMny2S1c6IJJELI0NuU&usqp=CAU https://encryp...

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by Devilfish
Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:27 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New RAAF 737Max8 BBJ
Replies: 5
Views: 803

New RAAF 737Max8 BBJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQf97aFPHq4


The 737 Max 8 is getting a massive vote of confidence with this order. :thumbsup:
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The RAAF will soon be receiving its latest VIP transport (footage starts @ 0.20 of the video) ..... :airplane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQf97aFPHq4


The 737 Max 8 is getting a massive vote of confidence with this order. :thumbsup:

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by Devilfish
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker Next Gen Update
Replies: 13
Views: 2903

Re: Fokker Next Gen Update

Since photo realistic 3D renderings can be created cheaply by nearly everybody, nearly everbody is presenting nice NextGen <fill-in-arbitrary-old-aircraft-type> :) Aww, come on...don't be killjoys. At least we get to see a variety of concepts (not necessarily new ) every year or so. Maybe the 'NG' ...

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by Devilfish
Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

To be fair, nobody else except for you is pushing for PR to get A338s either, and there's really no reason for them order them when 787s can do the job even better. As @ Evodesire pointed out in the local forum..... :wink2: Quote: "So many issues and shakeups with Boeing lately. If PAL is to o...

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by Devilfish
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

I think IMO, it's likely we'll be seeing LH return to MNL first Or maybe, PR would return to Europe first... either FCO or MXP -- :point: https://business.inquirer.net/451858/biz-buzz-hefty-maharlika-salaries Quote: "As the Philippines and Italy mark 75 years of diplomatic relations, the Itali...

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by Devilfish
Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

While T5 could served both as extension of T2 as overflow gates during peak demand. Going back to this, @ Arianespace has clarified in his blog that T5 would only have 14-15 contact gates, plus remotes. That may require partial use of T2 as PR 's ad hoc domestic wing. It could connect to the new T5...

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by Devilfish
Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Maybe Cebu Pacific and Philippine Air Asia? It's likely the other way around. 5J and Z2 may end up operating out of old T1 , both being LCC s -- plus other foreign LCCs flying into Manila . Which could allow for Terminal 3 to be converted to exclusively for International flights and airlines. While...

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by Devilfish
Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

NAIA Terminal 5?? https://www.rappler.com/business/ramon-ang-bares-plans-naia-philippines-main-airport/ I'm taking this plan with a grain of salt. The work description is a little vague as the PVH compound itself is very small for a new PTB minus the Nayong Pilipino area. 9,000 vehicles clawing spa...

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by Devilfish
Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

As far as I know, engine supply is negotiated separately If the DoD 's acquisition program for the MRF s falters again for any reason, then this could be the fallback aircraft for CAP ..... :spin: https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/kai-to-invest-in-single-seat-fa-50-advanced-air-mobility/157400.a...

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by Devilfish
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Well, they didn’t specify if they meant first world or something else… :duck: There may be hope yet if it comes anywhere close to the two previous major conceptual designs floated by SMC in the intervening years :crossfingers: or this image posted by PAF's administrator in his blog a long time ago....

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by Devilfish
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

SMC plans to start airport facilities work at its NMIA project in Bulakan next year -- but didn't say exactly when next year..... :arrow: https://www.philstar.com/business/2024/03/16/2340873/smc-start-bulacan-airport-development-2025 Quote: "MANILA, Philippines — Diversified conglomerate San M...

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by Devilfish
Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Fresh from his confirmation, the new Finance Secretary is floating the idea of selling NAIA anew..... :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: https://www.philstar.com/business/2024/03/14/2340327/recto-revives-p...

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by Devilfish
Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Why should Lufthansa order an extremely niche aircraft to serve a niche route , when they already have a perfectly capable aircraft that's the 787? What can the A338 do that the 787 (either the 8 or 9) couldn't already? I don't know if it's being slow on the uptake or deliberately ignoring hints ju...

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by Devilfish
Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

If the A338 was officially discontinued by Airbus, how would you react? As with my other discontinued favorites, life goes on...it's not like I have any say in the matter. Anyway, Airbus haven't done so...they have no compelling reason to. The A338 is built on the same assembly line as the A339 and...

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by Devilfish
Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

I hope things pan out well in their plan to potentially break a 15 year absence from MNL. I do so too. :crossfingers: Are you seriously suggesting that Lufthansa order the A338 just to satisfy your A338 obsession? I know you really like that plane but you need to wake up from your dreams already. I...

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by Devilfish
Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Lufthansa is eyeing a return to MNL ..... https://www.philstar.com/business/2024/03/04/2337812/lufthansa-mulls-return-direct-flights-manila Quote: "'The reason why it’s not happening now is that we don’t have the right aircraft yet. We are waiting for 200 aircraft to be delivered and we need t...

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by Devilfish
Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:58 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

If Philippines is interested in Tejas Mk1A for a naval strike role due to Brahmos integration, it should be noted that the supply of GE F404 engines to India is expected to be limited to 20 per year for some time. It is much less expensive and simpler to procure a different anti-ship missile for th...

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by Devilfish
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:07 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

I was curious if you see things the same way. I do. :yes: "A wee bit more pesky for the dragon" seems a lot less useful than "send 100,000 poor kids to college". Unless you prefer to see those 100,000 poor kids herded into re-education camps and tutored on mainland dogma. I woul...

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by Devilfish
Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2024
Replies: 113
Views: 15054

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2024

Cebu Pacific Selects Pratt & Whitney for Airbus A321XLR ordered back in 2019! Also additional spare engines! During the Singapore Air Show! Now there's a commitment. Maybe 5J would try and fly the XLR to AKL ? Although they may have to fly with blocked seats than is their wont to make it nonsto...

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by Devilfish
Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program
Replies: 68
Views: 4795

Re: Philippine’s almost $36 billion upgrade program

What do you suggest except fighters to deter intrusion of Philippine airspace? Well, the DND has decided that in the interim, upgraded Gripen C/Ds will have to do..... http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2024/02/paf-selects-gripen.html Is the number of Gripen C that could be supplied to the Phil...

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by Devilfish
Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2023
Replies: 367
Views: 81174

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2023

From the same thread above...msn 1973 had its 4th test flight / 1st customer acceptance flight at TLS ..... https://pics.thomas.gg/storage/full/dca3a04b-abbe-405a-bd99-7c64e466b2b2.jpg https://pics.thomas.gg/storage/full/dca3a04b-abbe-405a-bd99-7c64e466b2b2.jpg Wonder when the actual delivery flight...

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by Devilfish
Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2023
Replies: 367
Views: 81174

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2023

From the Airbus A330N P&D thread:

audidudi wrote:
Latest movements for 2 November 2023:

MSN 1973 Cebu Pacific (Air Asia NTU) A339 F-WWCM/RP-C3904, second test flight at TLS:


This was probably taken during 5J A339, RP-C3904's second test flight..... :camera:

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by Devilfish
Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2023
Replies: 367
Views: 81174

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2023

Lufthansa Technik announces they'll be building P15B worth of new maintenance hangars at Clark ..... https://www.philstar.com/business/2023/10/31/2307751/lufthansa-put-p15-billion-hangars-clark Quote: " LTP will locate its new hangars in Clark for two reasons: first, because the area hosts the...

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by Devilfish
Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippines Aviation - 2023
Replies: 367
Views: 81174

Re: Philippines Aviation - 2023

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/philippine-airlines-to-fit-10-abreast-seating-on-a350-1000s/153828.article Per the PAF Administrator, Airbus has just released the seating configuration for PR 's A35K ..... :crowded: http://philippine-aviation-forum.259.s1.nabble.com/file/n4801/A35K_3-4-3_322t....

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by Devilfish
Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 95
Views: 19760

Re: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread

That looks like a cheap way to make it a single seater. I would have thought they would at least do a custom canopy so the single seater gets some rear visibility. I assume rearward visibility was sacrificed for expediency's sake to simplify the modification works to be done. Maybe they'd put in a ...

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by Devilfish
Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:34 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 95
Views: 19760

Re: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread

I see the sensors on the right screen and map on the middle screen. I don't consider that sensor fusion. I guess 20 years ago it was good but now all fighters including the F-16 and FA-50 have that level of sensor fusion. At one point, General Dynamics and Raytheon were proposing drop-in AESA radar...

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by Devilfish
Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:00 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Justin Trudeau's aircraft breakdown after G20 summit, India
Replies: 28
Views: 7294

Re: Justin Trudeau's aircraft breakdown after G20 summit, India

Seems it's fitting to acknowledge them here..... :goodvibes:

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by Devilfish
Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 95
Views: 19760

Re: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread

We are talking Gripen C and older F-16's without any sensor fusion. 4th gen aircraft have shown to have a high pilot workload in complex environments. We aren't just talking basic interception duties. SAAB used to tout the Gripen C 's netcentricity . Admittedly, technology in this field advances by...

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by Devilfish
Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:59 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 95
Views: 19760

Re: Philippine Air Force Multi Role Fighter News and Discussion Thread

Currently, Philippine GDP sits at $404 billion, thats actually a lot bigger than some notable F-16 operators. One has to look very hard to find validation of that on the ground. A cursory glimpse would show the stark opposite. This is actually one of my reservations against cheaper aircraft, sure i...

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by Devilfish
Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cebu Pacific considering narrowbody order
Replies: 30
Views: 5901

Re: Cebu Pacific considering narrowbody order

Found the vehicle with which 5J aims to secure the deals..... https://www.philstar.com/business/2023/10/06/2301465/mufg-cebu-pacific-close-123-million-financing-deal Quote: "MANILA, Philippines — Tokyo-based MUFG Bank Ltd. (MUFG) has closed a 12 -year, $123 million Japanese operating lease , wi...

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by Devilfish
Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cebu Pacific considering narrowbody order
Replies: 30
Views: 5901

Re: A321s for United?

That's a three year-old frame that was originally an AirAsia X ntu. It's been sat at TLS without engines for quite a while but has now obviously been reassigned and recently repainted. Note that I also included the AIB link so am aware...just affirming it'd be 5J 's latest A339 when delivered. :win...

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