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by babastud
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXSAP
Replies: 69
Views: 13009

Re: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXS

I'm guessing the following overseas airlines will NOT return to SEA post-pandemic: EK EI SQ Norwegian NH CX Condor Seattle has turned into such a crap-hole that no one in their right mind would want to come back or come visit. It really has, the problem is all these "refugees" from Sea an...

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by babastud
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4707
Views: 794411

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

SFO-BLR kind of takes the wind out of the sails of AA SEA-BLR. Why? The AA SEA-BLR route is focused on Microsoft and Amazon, principally, who have large operations at both ends, eliminating the need to connect through SFO and waste time. To me, the wind is out of the sails on UA's announcement. See...

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by babastud
Tue May 19, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo Airways plans IPO in 4Q2020, direct US flight at the end of 2021
Replies: 15
Views: 2455

Re: Bamboo Airways plans IPO in 4Q2020, direct US flight at the end of 2021

I don't think SJC is realistic. SFO will be the one, and a LAX route could also work.... BOS that's funny.

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by babastud
Sun May 17, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/17/2020: UNRAVELING; DL Leaves CAK/MHT/PHF/SWF/CZM w/No Resumption Planned
Replies: 138
Views: 17466

Re: OAG Changes 5/17/2020: UNRAVELING; DL Leaves CAK/MHT/PHF/SWF/CZM w/No Resumption Planned

We'll probably be close to 25% next month, with WN operating 50% & AA/B6/AS/G4/F9 I believe all planning on operating around 25-30% of their 2019 schedule. Assuming you are referring to the overall US market, I don't buy that at all. I can tell you that my main local airport of DTW will be nowh...

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by babastud
Sun May 10, 2020 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Still no Asia service from CLT?
Replies: 132
Views: 16916

Re: Still no Asia service from CLT?

There is not much demand from CLT to Asia. What is can easily 1 transfer via ORD, SFO, LAX etc. CLT high numbers of passengers are a result of mostly transfers and hub serving N/S east coast and SE to mid west and some west. O+D demand for international is mostly caribean, Europe.

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by babastud
Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 407894

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

SEA is toast for the time being, Why? because it's competitive in a way some of the other hubs are not and it has been over served recently with routes expanding left and right as the AS/Delta battle rages. No one will want any part of this battle as time goes on. AS will fight for it's life and con...

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by babastud
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX
Replies: 142
Views: 26167

Re: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX

afcjets wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if DL closes the SEA hub. It's probably the weakest out of all of them.

SEA doesn't need two airline hubs anyway.


Agreed, SEA has been way over served for some time now.

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by babastud
Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 197872

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

INDIA has banned entry to all non-citizens from EU and USA till April 15th. This includes OCI card holders.

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by babastud
Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 197872

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

United has suspended SFO/XNA till at least Oct 1st. United has suspended Northwest Arkansas Airport? For coronavirus? Gesh this thread is getting simply crazy without documentation. EVEN if United did it, follow it up with a link of proof. It makes sense! this flight is for those going on to China ...

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by babastud
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA uniform launches today
Replies: 54
Views: 9708

Re: New AA uniform launches today

I hope AA did not cheap out on these and go with them covered in Flame Retardant chemicals, which is what makes one sick and does many other bad things to the body like infertility.

Simple fix, a high quality thin wool is flame retardant but cost 3x price.

Curious to see what there made from?

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by babastud
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 197872

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

jeffrey0032j wrote:
Nobody believed me a month ago (or more than that) that this will bad.



I'm right there with you, my comments where deleted.

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by babastud
Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 234335

Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Of the top of my head: Air Italy is/has gone bankrupt. Alitalia has several flights a day to Milan and Rome to JFK. Cannot speak to other routes. UA/AA/DL must have several daily flights. EK daily to MXP JFK. Then every European airline is a one stop connection. You can drive from Italy to Switzerl...

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by babastud
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca: massive BOG expansion in 2020
Replies: 52
Views: 12167

Re: Avianca: massive BOG expansion in 2020

We'll see CDG, YYZ and SFO plus the two new Brazilian routes announed/started this year for sure. Next year we´ll probably see the return of ORD and BOS, and the consolidation of the new frequencies and capacity upgrades that have been launched throughout the whole network. New Spain routes have al...

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by babastud
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS to join OneWorld / AA to make SEA an Intl gateway
Replies: 1208
Views: 155449

Re: AS to join OneWorld / AA to make SEA an Intl gateway

Granted I'm happy AA and AS are joining forces. It seems though that this should have happened years ago before DL moved into SEA. I can't really see BLR lasting. The O+D can't be that great, and the support would come from SFO and LAX which have more then enough 1 stop to BLR and HYD. I can see UA ...

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by babastud
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca: massive BOG expansion in 2020
Replies: 52
Views: 12167

Re: Avianca: massive BOG expansion in 2020

Will we see SFO?

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by babastud
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 234335

Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Spoke with my doctor friend who advises the Govt and the TSA. He said all doctors are in 100% in agreement that all travel to and from China should be halted immediately. He said any delay is on the govt to work out logistics and give time for assets a chance to get out. There of course is politics ...

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by babastud
Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:59 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United Airlines SFO to DEL
Replies: 28
Views: 5226

Re: United Airlines SFO to DEL

How are UA loads from SFO to DEL? Are they making profits? I doubt any ULH route prints money. Vanity routes for state owned carriers or cross-subsidized by private carriers. That is just me. What happens if there is a FAA NOTAM for entire gulf region and Russia bans US carriers? 'This is not a &qu...

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by babastud
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 234335

Re: SFO-PEK/PVG Chinese loads appear to drop

While this has an effect on loads, it's not as big as people make it out to be, especially to/from "Tier 1" city like PEK and PVG. Chinese tourists does NOT have to follow tour group to go to places, even though many do (No number for worldwide, but I read news in Japan 2 days ago and the...

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by babastud
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 234335

Re: SFO-PEK/PVG Chinese loads appear to drop

At what point will the airlines stop their service to China? Answer: When their employees are in a lawsuit claiming their airline knew of the risk but continued to fly to China anyway. I am being a little over-the-top in my example, but this is definately not fear mongering on my part. There is a s...

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by babastud
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 234335

Re: SFO-PEK/PVG Chinese loads appear to drop

China has suspended all tour groups from China, so a huge drop in loads is expected. While this has an effect on loads, it's not as big as people make it out to be, especially to/from "Tier 1" city like PEK and PVG. Chinese tourists does NOT have to follow tour group to go to places, even...

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by babastud
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: AA To Announce New Long-Haul Route - Possibly Brisbane
Replies: 107
Views: 25764

Re: Rumor: AA To Announce New Long-Haul Route - Possibly Brisbane

AA is moving its Pacific Hub to MIA

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by babastud
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 106
Views: 15253

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2020

Spirit is adding seasonal daily OAK-FLL Tragicomic for OAK that every recent addition seems to be counterbalanced by a larger reduction. One step forward, two steps back, while SFO and SJC are taking 2, 3, 4, steps forward and 0 steps back. Your correct for the most part, although SFO has seen a dr...

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by babastud
Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trying to analyze the Pacific Northwest (YVR/SEA/PDX)-India market
Replies: 3
Views: 969

Re: Trying to analyze the Pacific Northwest (YVR/SEA/PDX)-India market

While there is demand from the Pacific N.West to India, from Tech and other industries it is still considered a young market relative to a mature market such as the two big ones NY/NJ Northeast and California. SFO fills the need with the best routing from California and EWR/JFK fill the need for Nor...

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by babastud
Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United seasonal MKE-SFO
Replies: 21
Views: 4611

Re: United seasonal MKE-SFO

YYZORD wrote:
I wonder how AC can make YYZ-MKE work but domestic flights like LAX and SFO cannot work year round.


MKE-LAX/SFO can work (remember midwest express). It's just that UA over the years has chosen to route through ORD instead of direct.

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by babastud
Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 106
Views: 15253

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2020

CLT-SFO is long overdue and would provide some prime connections on UA pacific. If you UA can due between 1.5-3x daily to RDU daily, they can sustain a one daily CLT easy!

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by babastud
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 1/5/2020:PR Adds MNL-SEA,CEB-LAX;HU Drops LAS-PEK
Replies: 44
Views: 12294

Re: OAG Changes 1/5/2020:PR Adds MNL-SEA,CEB-LAX;HU Drops LAS-PEK

I'm surprised by SEA-MNL don't think there is much demand for the route.

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by babastud
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian Air to Consolidate All Routes in the Bay Area to SFO
Replies: 54
Views: 8835

Re: Norwegian Air to Consolidate All Routes in the Bay Area to SFO

Sure, why not pay more for operational heada'd bet NOBODY ches, longer TSA lines, and more expensive usage fees? I understand why legacy and alliance carriers don't like OAK, but I can't think of a much better set up for an ULCC that has been entrenched at OAK for over 5 years to leave as soon as a...

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by babastud
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/19: Last of the teens!
Replies: 168
Views: 24343

Re: Irish 12/19: Last of the teens!

Wow what a surprise!! Even though this has been a heavily requested route for years from the business community, it still was surprising. SFO is going be super busy in International area this summer.

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by babastud
Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian Air to Consolidate All Routes in the Bay Area to SFO
Replies: 54
Views: 8835

Re: Norwegian Air to Consolidate All Routes in the Bay Area to SFO

Good news for SFO, lot's of new Service coming online for Europe in Summer 2020....

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by babastud
Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 11/24/2019:;NK Exits KIN-MCO;AS Exits DUT?;TP Adds BOS-PDL;UA Adds DEN-SLN
Replies: 37
Views: 10542

Re: OAG Changes 11/24/2019:;NK Exits KIN-MCO;AS Exits DUT?;TP Adds BOS-PDL;UA Adds DEN-SLN

Ishrion wrote:
So United’s reducing LAX-MEL... good time for AA to step in.



I would not be surprised to see this route cut at some point, with UA having MEL now also out of SFO and so much capacity to Australia added in the last few years, I don't know if its that profitable anymore out of LAX for UA?

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by babastud
Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route
Replies: 80
Views: 15050

Re: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route

The KEY question here is if Filipino businesses will pay a premium for a non-stop. SIN is a completely different story as its one of the few developed Asian markets. Philippine Airlines non-stops to the USA (SFO LAX JFK) have a price premium, will UA price it the same or higher with UA's higher lab...

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by babastud
Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route
Replies: 80
Views: 15050

Re: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route

I could see this happening! Now I know it's low yielding and maybe BKK or SGN have some advantages. However, PAL has a monopoly on this route and does continue too expand and make the flight work quite well because of high demand year round. Look United has been thinking out of the box the last few ...

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by babastud
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?
Replies: 184
Views: 36592

Re: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?

I don't really see the demand from the cities like MIA, BOS, or even IAD. Maybe ORD or Toronto? Really demand to Singapore is from California and then NYC. The demand really starts to drop after that yes I know Sea and Vancouver have some, but it pails in comparison. If someone wants to make a conne...

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by babastud
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 11/17/2019:4O Adds CUN-MIA,LAX-MTY;AA Cuts JFK Again;DL Exits PAP;UA Exits ELM, LAX-PSC
Replies: 114
Views: 17815

Re: OAG Changes 11/17/2019:4O Adds CUN-MIA,LAX-MTY;AA Cuts JFK Again;DL Exits PAP;UA Exits ELM, LAX-PSC

3x daily CDG-SFO for AF during summer is pretty impressive. Not many airlines flying TATL from the West Coast more than 2x daily. Perhaps maybe no A380 this summer? Your correct it is impressive. The A380 is still scheduled for one daily while the other two flight are 777W. I believe the additional...

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by babastud
Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 76
Views: 13525

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019

Quite a bit of changes at SFO! There was the loss of Thomas Cook (MAN), Icelandair (KEF), XL Airways (CDG), and Hong Kong Airlines (HKG), but the announcements of Alitalia (FCO) and now LOT (WAW). Which market is LOT targeting--is there enough tech/business traffic that is better served with LOT th...

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by babastud
Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair axing service to Kansas City and San Francisco
Replies: 77
Views: 17843

Re: Icelandair axing service to Kansas City and San Francisco

MCI makes sense for the cut, SFO not so much. I would have expected more secondary cities to be cut rather then SFO. I have to chalk this up to equipment issues or so forth. Granted Iceland is way over served, and really does not need all the cities served but still SFO seemed to be doing well. I w...

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by babastud
Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair axing service to Kansas City and San Francisco
Replies: 77
Views: 17843

Re: Icelandair axing service to Kansas City and San Francisco

MCI makes sense for the cut, SFO not so much. I would have expected more secondary cities to be cut rather then SFO. I have to chalk this up to equipment issues or so forth. Granted Iceland is way over served, and really does not need all the cities served but still SFO seemed to be doing well. I wo...

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by babastud
Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: AI to announce IAH-DEL soon
Replies: 103
Views: 14807

Re: Rumor: AI to announce IAH-DEL soon

I don't see this happening, of course this is AI so any dumb move could happen. IAH and Texas yes has lot's of Indians, outside of VFR traffic it's medical tech and research etc is big, yes there is oil, but India does not do much business with the USA in this field outside of tech support and some ...

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by babastud
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?
Replies: 144
Views: 30700

Re: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?

and this is why I, and many others, prefer to connect in say, ICN, then SFO when going TPAC. After reading this thread, even on a normal day, your likely to miss your connection due to delayed/cancelled flights. Throw in a bit of bad weather and/or construction and your doomed. This by the way isnt...

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by babastud
Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX to India
Replies: 48
Views: 9682

Re: LAX to India

LAX has about every possible 1 stop connection to India. It does not need a non-stop and the stage length is a killer unless you can pull in the premium traffic that say SFO does. It's a hop up to SFO and you have 10x weekly AI non-stop and soon to start year round UA so that is a great option, not ...

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by babastud
Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS expands Pacific Northwest to California with 8 new routes & adds frequencies on others
Replies: 154
Views: 29081

Re: AS expands Pacific Northwest to California with 8 new routes & adds frequencies on others

I think Alaska did this a bit backwards. Instead of adding a bunch of Mid-West cities from say San Diego they should have started with these West Coast adds. I didn’t quite get the idea of competing with Southwest (outside of intra-California) while absorbing Virgin. Perhaps down the road some of t...

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by babastud
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/25/2019: WN Moves Cuts to NOV;AA STS-DFW/LAX;DL Reduces PUJ
Replies: 51
Views: 11870

Re: OAG Changes 8/25/2019: WN Moves Cuts to NOV;AA STS-DFW/LAX;DL Reduces PUJ

UA MIA-SFO NOV 0.9>0[1.0]

Does this mean that it's gone through the winter season? Why can't UA sustain a single daily SFO-MIA Flight?

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by babastud
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 76
Views: 13525

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019

WN is going to be permanently discontinuing SFO-AUS and SFO-DAL nonstop service after January 5th. WN dropping SFO-MKE seasonal nonstop service and adding OAK-MKE nonstop service might happen with WN having already dropped SFO-ATL/PDX/SNA and WN dropping SFO-AUS/DAL. What's the story with WN at SFO...

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by babastud
Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 76
Views: 13525

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Aviation Thread - 2019

WN is going to be permanently discontinuing SFO-AUS and SFO-DAL nonstop service after January 5th. WN dropping SFO-MKE seasonal nonstop service and adding OAK-MKE nonstop service might happen with WN having already dropped SFO-ATL/PDX/SNA and WN dropping SFO-AUS/DAL. What's the story with WN at SFO...

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by babastud
Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United suspends ORD-HKG
Replies: 128
Views: 31406

Re: United suspends ORD-HKG

This is not a surprise... anyone aware of the news can see the toll it's taking especially since the HKG airport is being targeted. Many corporate businesses have suspended or delayed travel and many ethnic travel is being told not to visit now and vice versa, and tourism travel is essentially over ...

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by babastud
Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: UA Announcing CUR, NCE and PMO and expanding some existing routes
Replies: 251
Views: 40984

Re: UA Network Planning Event 8/22/2019

Lotta hype for not much..... = Why? These are sensible adds, and do not need throwing darts to please A.Netters. Not surprised by SFO-DEL going year round. It is an extremely high yielding route for AI. Saludos, Alex Good to hear about SFO-DEL going year round and the demand even though the flight ...

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by babastud
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Polar Routing from India to US
Replies: 20
Views: 4385

Air India first flight over North Pole from Delhi to San Francisco

Look's like AI is about to fly DEL-SFO over the Arctic? I've herd this August 15th this will be the new routing. Is this routing both ways or one? how much time will this save? and how is this going to work with increased tensions with Pakistan and always threat of closure of air space?

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by babastud
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Increases International Presence, Makes First Entrance Into Africa
Replies: 509
Views: 120090

Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

They are selling the airline to the Chinese, under a shell company based in Orange County, and becoming solely a rewards company? What's huge nowadays? A CEO departure would have rumors swirling around for certain. I'd say, they are buying Alaska Airlines. Or, they are going to all biofuel on all f...

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by babastud
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?
Replies: 35
Views: 9307

Re: Can DL's A330neo fly SEA-SIN/SYD!?

Is there anyway to pull the numbers for Aussies going to SEA? I only ever hear of it being a big business destination for Aussies on a.net otherwise I don’t see anything else written up on the subject. I feel it’s an a.net pipe dream with limited traffic in reality when compared to other US ports -...

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by babastud
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Summer in SFO 2020
Replies: 21
Views: 4825

Re: Summer in SFO 2020

How about UA flying SFO-Brussels with a 787-8? I've often thought that as two Star Alliance carriers this might make sense given Brussels Airlines international connections out of BRU. Any thoughts on that possibility? It is my understanding that SN (Brussels) is part of the transatlantic JV that U...

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