That's almost worse than the schedule they ran at the end at DAY. Sometimes, the grass isn't greener on the other side of the river. Difficult to see it that way though given the dearth of success by even other ULCCs at DAY once they lost all the Cincy traffic bleed. Yeah agreed, WN had to start se...
Jump to postWith RIC-BWI starting soon, will LGA-BWI be added in the future? I know Southwest has tried the LGA-BWI route in the past. However, it seems they are going for connectivity with the RIC-BWI route. I would think they’d like to have connectivity to the largest market in the U.S. thru BWI. I flew EWR-...
Jump to postOh no. How many flights is ATL down to now? According to enilria: "total planned June departures (based on Friday June 7th) dropping from 118 to 93. It looks like a major reduction in flow capacity from logical connect points to Florida." Over a decade since the AirTran merger and SWA are...
Jump to postMavyWavyATR wrote:I wonder if B6 would have some luck in establishing a focus city/connecting hub in places with minimal or no competition like GSO, MEM, BHM or COS.
With TK announcing service to DEN from IST, I would have to imagine MCO is next. Probably by the end of the summer, we'll see an announcement. Been rumoured for years. Would rather have Qatar or Abu Dhabi for connections if we must have something ME-adjacent, or a mainline year-round service to a b...
Jump to postSpirit just announced MCI to Boston and newark which starts July 10 https://x.com/yourmciguy/status/1776127645786222730?s=46&t=99zjwpClQbiW_TOEUoTaSA Strange they announced these at midnight….. though i don’t see an announcement on spirit’s website It’s common practice for new schedules to be l...
Jump to postI think the real question for LAX-SJU comes down to yield. Are passengers willing to pay a premium for a nonstop?… given its SJU that’s not likely the case. LAX-SJU is basically ties up an aircraft all day unless you do a redeye one way. With continuous aircraft delivery and engine issues…. there’s ...
Jump to postWith Breeze adding TPA-PNS, we shall see how long Silver tries to stick it out. TPA-PNS, is one of their (3M's) best performing routes LF wise, and as myself and family have taken the Silver flights back and forth from TPA-PNS-TPA many times, the Breeze flights are certainly more attractive already...
Jump to postMy guess is one that has not been mentioned but has been a hub for a few airlines so there are many gates that are not being used. What do you guys think about GSO? That's the perfect size. Des in ILM, SY’s bread and butter is taking people to Florida and exotic destinations during the brutal winte...
Jump to postLakeland Airport posted on their instagram that on Wednesday the 27th Avelo will be announcing what routes will be flown. My predictions MHT HVN ILG RDU MDW Edit: It also just came out that Avelo applied to operate scheduled international flights to Mexico and the Dominican Republic. I fail to see ...
Jump to postmannymanatee wrote:United should add the routes f9 refuses to do.
F9 should really look @ adding more flights to compete w the legacies @ CLE, especially in shorter duration. ORD, DTW comes to mind. Prices are super high to Chicago with AA & UA, and SWA barely helps. Same with DTW on DL…F9 should look to connect CLE & CVG as well onna ferry flight. Kinda ...
Jump to postTrying to fill an A320 during the winter on LGA-PIT sounds like a great way to burn money. The capacity will shift back to Florida in the winter. That didn’t stop them from flying PIT-EWR in the winter The big difference here is LGA is slot restricted. They need to use the slot on what has the grea...
Jump to postApparently NK's LGA add will be seasonal; kinda surprising for LGA. " According to the Allegheny County Airport Authority, it marks the first flight by an ultra low-cost carrier to connect Pittsburgh and New York. " https://www.post-gazette.com/business/development/2024/02/29/spirit-airli...
Jump to postF9 adding MSY Love getting MSY back and having a new destination added to the airport! https://x.com/ishriona/status/1762632379137454084?s=46 Ah I had this one in my predictions for 2024....now let's see if I get boths parts right by them cancelling it before they ever start it. Frontier rarely can...
Jump to postBasing the success/failure of LAL off of “because nobody has tried it” is dumb. People said the same thing when G4 started to fly into PGD instead of RSW or SRQ. Hell, look at Avelo’s main base at HVN. Very valid point, but at least HVN is extremely convenient access wise where a large number of pe...
Jump to postLAL is not going to be able to serve as a replacement for both TPA and MCO. It's 45 minutes to Disney and Tampa, 50-60 to Universal, St. Pete, and Orlando, and all those numbers are taken at 10pm at night. At rush hour, it'll be an hour or more to all those places, on the worst interstate in the co...
Jump to postAvianca ceo has said they will be launching 15 new routes within the local and international market, I wonder if this is the potential SJO route? It almost makes sense if the rumor is in fact true? Perhaps, but the original quote said it was a US airline. Dumb question here, why would Avianca add C...
Jump to postbringbackATA wrote:With F9 dropping IND-LAS, do we think NK or WN will jump on it with additional flights?
First article I’ve seen on AM:
https://bnnbreaking.com/world/mexico/ae ... rting-july
In other news, Frontier yanked MBJ for this upcoming summer. Sad, but understandable given the loads were awful both summers. It’s probably too much plane but maybe better for a Breeze A220?
F9 MBJ loads -
July 2022 77%
Aug 58%
2023
May 38%
Jun 41%
Jul 50%
MavyWavyATR wrote:At what point do you think ALB will get a nonstop to/from LAX? Judging from DOT data, there's quite an amount of demand between the Empire State capital and the LA Metro.
Massive win!! Daily E190 is great frequency and gauge to launch with!
Jump to postWhere will the Max8's be used for first any routes released? I just saw today that there's at least one flying around the network. It flew between SAN & TPA & IAD just in the last few days. It doesn't seem to be on any specific routes at this time. N801AK flew SAN-SEA this morning as #1154....
Jump to postnkops wrote:Lilj4425 wrote:ROC and MHT with Avelo. Announcement still tomorrow. Confirmed.
What is the crowd they are going after on GSP-MHT? seems like an odd pairing
Great additions by F9, has that hub feel with 28ish destinations and most of the new ones being unserved. F9 is known for cutting routes before they mature. Will be interesting to see how many stick. That’s the old Frontier, this new out and back base centric Ryanair style operation should make the...
Jump to postIf its Avelo, I highly doubt its a non-base like ROC or MHT... it would be something like RSW RSW isn’t a base… that was canceled, Plus GSP-RSW can’t fill a 737, RSW overall isn't a market people in the Southeast frequent. It’ll be the Northeast since this sounds like a summer add. MHT should perfo...
Jump to postI wonder whether at some point the 2nd daily DFW-FCO could be moved to start a PHX-FCO? I’m sure there is a lot of leisure traffic to FCO from the West Coast, especially California that has to connect through DFW or ORD on AA that could benefit from that. And all that traffic can and does use the 2...
Jump to postWhat?! No Costa Rica— a travesty. Wonderful news up to 28 destinations. Would love to know F9 thought process on some teeny markets— they must have some data to suggest for instance PNS or CHS will have an upsurge in demand. Why does Cincy get New England but not CLE? I doubt it’s a complete dartbo...
Jump to postThis is PDEW for June 2023: CLE
IAH 302
AUS 122
SLC 93
MSY 85
JAX 71
SAV 50
CHS 43
PNS 36
Per above comment hoping they are daily…. I hope they aren’t if you want them to fill.
jeepyjeep wrote:Tried to search to see if these had already been mentioned, but I don't think so.
I also see:
DEN-CVG (starts in May 2024)
DEN-TYS (starts in May 2024)
Also seems like DEN-ABE stops in October 2024, when the others have bookable dates into November 2024.
Southwest boosted LAS and PHX to 5x weekly starting in October.
Jump to postb777900 wrote:How about adding new service to Manchester NH so we can fly NS to Toronto and Calgary we have no service...
As a quick way to boost revenue in March and April, Spirit just loaded in the following:
BNA 4x weekly
MKE 4x weekly
MCI 3x weekly
MEM 3x weekly
All of those except MEM have been served before.
Copa just boosted TPA to daily for this summer. Nice to see daily service return!
Jump to postScrantonUSC wrote:My guess is that BA will be taking over the LHR flight.
Such a transformative time for TPA during the past decade, especially for air service. Sad to see him go and whoever replaces him has huge shoes to fill!
Jump to postOn what basis? Because you said so...? How many times has NK and F9 thrown darts on a board from MSP and failed? Spirit at its peak served well over 10 destinations from MSP and is now back to only three year round. ONE daily to ATL, ONE daily to DTW, and ONE daily to LAS. They don't even serve MCO...
Jump to postLilj4425 wrote:
All this talk of CLE-SJO is so odd. SJO isn’t even in CLE’s top 15 international markets ranked by demand lol. CLE-ICN has more PDEW for crying out loud. The SJO-ORD market is 130% larger than CLE-SJO and even then only supports seasonal Saturday service… with all the connectivity UA provides in Chi...
Jump to postB6SpiritofEWR wrote:Where did all these LGA slots come from? AA?
Geminijets101 wrote:When do you guys think Breeze will finally enter the South Florida market?
Frontier is adding GRR-DFW in a large expansion for them. Frequency and start date haven't been announced. I'd imagine it will start in May or June and fly 3 times a week. I was not expecting Dallas to come before RDU or LAS, but I will definitely take whatever Frontier gives us. Fingers crossed th...
Jump to postMYR-BDL is gonna do extremely well during the summer. Very smart add.
Jump to postThis reminds me of the mid 2010s when they used to regularly have announcements with 40-50+ markets. Yeah most didn’t stick but many still fly.
With their new base strategy, it will be interesting to see if there’s more of a willingness to offer more consistency in their schedules.
I wouldn’t exactly call 4x daily Delta flights highly competitive in regard to Spirit…. they serve different customer bases. Yes and no. I suppose if you're a judge, you can call the people buying commoditized air transport from the same two geographic catchments "different customer bases.&quo...
Jump to postWord on the street is that GSP Airport will be announcing a new airline next week. This is why they are adding two new gates ASAP. Porter filling GSP-YYZ on almost 100% local traffic? Sounds like a struggle as GSP-YYZ is only 12 PDEW and if you add all of Canada’s demand in it doesn’t even get up t...
Jump to postAbeam79 wrote:HamJannik wrote:Spirit adding daily LGA-CHS starting in April.
So they are losing money and they add a highly competitive route? It’s like they want to go full steam over the cliff
Didn't Spirit lease another gate at CLE right before the JetBlue merger was announced? Maybe now we'll see them use it, although they will probably do more cutting than expanding in the aftermath of the DoJ court win. (I'm assuming B6 won't appeal. I don't think they can afford to.) NK could offer ...
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