And why is that? Why does IAH punch below its weight considering the high population and how much business there is in Houston? On paper it should be a bigger hub than DFW or ATL. Maybe it's best if this was answered in the Houston thred. I don't want to derail the conversation too much, but Ill gi...
Jump to posthttps://www.yahoo.com/news/plans-las-vegas-airport-no-054720876.html Things continue to progress with SNSA planning. According to the linked article, contracts related to the projects will start being awarded in the coming months. The question re: who will fly into the airport was briefly addressed ...
Jump to postEmilia can post some really great information. However, they’re not always the most accurate. The post suggests that FLL-TLH should be operated by an E190. That wouldn’t work as the E190 very rarely cycles through FLL. The E190 fleet becoming increasingly smaller as the new A220s arrive. Now that s...
Jump to postCourtesy: The Hill JetBlue eliminating service to five cities after failed Spirit Airlines merger https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/4544913-jetblue-eliminating-service-failed-spirit-airlines-merger/ Looks like B6 is also dropping: LAX-SEA/SFO/LAS/MIA (may just be a reduction in flights on L...
Jump to postI would think that HOU could eventually serve as a bridge between the east and west networks. Down the line HOU-BUR and secondary California markets could work well. There's definitely a willingness/desire in the recent HVN additions to move beyond leisure-heavy markets and into larger cities/busine...
Jump to postAlso will be curious to see what happens with CVG. Yes, it's a "mature" market with a "Delta customer base" where loyalty and corporate contracts obviously do well enough and why they continue to run CDG and a handful of other mainline flying (mostly Florida) but with the capaci...
Jump to postYes but they've added and cut flights many times over the years so clearly there's not some massive scarcity of opportunities to get into the market there. People on here constantly suggest they have added routes as "slot squatting" and the post I was responding to asked what they will do...
Jump to postHPN does not have slots even though it seems to be a recurring myth on this site. And I already said that I checked and the flights aren't for sale next winter unfortunately. It most certainly is not a myth. While not slots per se, the effect is the same. There is a 240 passenger per half hour limi...
Jump to postLooks like Delta is dropping HPN-MCO and HPN-PBI. https://twitter.com/AdrianWaltz/status/1763836585638862925 Looks like Delta is dropping HPN-MCO and HPN-PBI. https://twitter.com/AdrianWaltz/status/1763836585638862925 Ah damn it these flights were quite convenient for me so was hoping they'd stay b...
Jump to postI think LHR is a key part of DL's LAX strategy and is critical to remaining one of the carriers of choice in the market. Whether flown by DL metal, VS or a combination of both, I think it is here to stay as a loss-leader if nothing else.
Jump to postIn case anyone missed it and not sure if it’s being talked about in the EAS thread. B6 has submitted a bid to provide EAS service to PQI (Presque Isle, Maine) from BOS. For the first year it will operate with a E190 and second year switch over to the A220 as the 190 fleet gets retired. https://airl...
Jump to postI don't know how HVN infrastructure handles all the flights they have now let alone add more with this ramp layout. The new terminal will take awhile. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tweed+New+Haven+Airport/@41.2678673,-72.8885162,202a,35y,310.66h,39.48t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89e7d7e323a1323d...
Jump to postATL, VPS confirmed. They are bookable on their site. One wonders if DL will choose to respond with a CRJ to HVN. That is, if the infrastructure can support it. I don't know how HVN infrastructure handles all the flights they have now let alone add more with this ramp layout. The new terminal will t...
Jump to postFor all the talk about an NK/B6 merger raising fares supported by the argument that NK lowers fares on routes where it competes with other carriers generally, I'm wondering how true this supposition actually is? In my experience (granted, anecdotal), NK does indeed offer some of the cheapest fares o...
Jump to postAre they doing anything out of the ordinary in the LAS area to handle corporate jet traffic? When they had the Super Bowl in Los Angeles I saw there was a big spike in traffic in private jets out of LGB. There is a private airport and the landing fees are outrageous for the Super Bowl dates. Had fr...
Jump to postI would not be surprised at all if YUL is announced in 2024. If this is true, I’d not be surprised if YUL is axed in 2025. There’s nothing that’s worth attempting from any Canadian airport, especially not at the moment with the Canadian carriers in full defensive fare war mode. The only US LCC that...
Jump to postBreeze will be launching flights to Montreal: https://i.ibb.co/XxJ1xgc/IMG-0776.jpg Sounds like an intern is confusing Plattsburgh, NY with Montreal…. FWIW, PBG is indeed marketed as "Plattsburgh, NY / Montreal, QC" on Breeze's website, so the Tweet probably was name dropping Montreal int...
Jump to postNot being argumentative, but why do you think it matters, not covering middle America? I can tell you that the cost for B6 to do that, with no guarantee that they’d be able to gain substantial market share to be profitable would cost them in the area code of their ridiculous attempt to buy NK. B6 i...
Jump to postMaybe AUS, SJC. What about BNA? It's a fast growing market, albeit dominated by WN. What about RDU? They gave it a go around 2021 only to pull back once other cities opened up after the pandemic. Maybe try once more? Finally, what about MCI, now that they have that new terminal up and running? Yeah...
Jump to postRecently I saw a story about land being designated for the future Southern Nevada Supplemental Airport (SNSA, or the Ivanpah Airport). The airport will be located in Jean, about half an hour south of Las Vegas off the 15 freeway, and initially have 153 gates and two runways. I was just wondering wha...
Jump to postHere are the Q3 2023 PDEW's out of AUS to the top remaining contiguous U.S. markets traveled to from AUS that don't currently have DL nonstop service out of AUS (Source: https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-Report-Table-6-Contiguous-State-C/yj5y-b2ir/explore): AUS-SFO/OAK/SJC -...
Jump to postAnyone have any thoughts as to potential changes coming to DL's LAS operations this year? Based on the last statistics I saw, LAS was DL's #2 non-hub station in terms of number of passengers (behind MCO, ahead of stations like AUS and RDU). DL also added some P2P routes at LAS las year (AUS, SAN, an...
Jump to postVery much hoping for LAS-HVN, or at least some sort of meaningful link between the east and west coast networks. I know the former is highly unlikely this year, but I am cautiously optimistic about the latter.
Jump to postDL is ending the following routes: https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-air-lines-cuts-laguardia-miami-flights Sat-only LGA-SLC Sat-only LGA-LAS MIA-NAS DL previously had cut Sat only LGA-LAX & PHX. The Saturday only, outside perimeter stuff really does not work from LGA. The LAX-specific issues...
Jump to postFunny to see the parallel LAX debates between the DL and AA Network threads. I do not have route-specific data, but I've seen DL displace AA at the #1 spot in LAX over the last year. Now it leads AA and UA by quite a distance in terms of passengers carried and overall revenue. Still, AA pulls in mo...
Jump to postThere is a market for both to be sure. Plattsburgh is about an 1hr 15 mins driving time via Google Maps, and its a straight shot of all highway driving. BTV is 1 hr 45 mins that can involve non highway and/or a Ferry crossing so its really not used as a viable alternative to Montreal. With BTV losi...
Jump to postIt is not surprising that SEA is the worst performer for DL. However, the fact that it is the worst performing hub of all US carriers is the most important takeaway. People tend to place SEA and BOS in the same category in regards to DL hubs for their geographic location and their strategic purpose...
Jump to postSo it seems DL's SEA hub is a financial drain on the company, at least according to View From The Wing, which picked up a Patreon article. Thoughts? Ouch indeed: https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-p ... ent-304717 I wonder how long DL will continue to try to push through at SEA. IMO, it is strat...
Jump to postCould we possibly see DL incorporate a Landline bus setup (like what UA, SY & AA are doing) into the network at some point? Could allow for the re-establishment of certain routes that went away after the 30-50 seat regionals got retired. Maybe. But I’d expect internally Delta doesn’t consider b...
Jump to postSpeaking of Ski Season. Southern Connecticut is filled with lot of "ski families". Most folks drive it, but I wonder if Avelo would consider season HVN-BTV, or perhaps some other east coast spots in the Appalachians through PA, WV, NH, NC. I'm personally not a skiier but there is sort of ...
Jump to postCould we possibly see DL add another frequency on RDU-LAS (or at least make the eastbound a non red-eye)? As nice as that would be, it’s obvious they’re thrown in the towel with RDU. Once 2020 happened they’ve decided they’re no longer dedicated to growing RDU or making like a focus city. On top of...
Jump to postHaven't seen this discussed or advertised yet: GPT (Gulfport/Biloxi, MS) now appears in the system launching January 12, 2024 to LAS and TPA. MX148 TPA (08:00) – GPT (08:35) GPT (09:15) – LAS (11:25) MX149 LAS (12:10) – GPT (17:50) GPT (18:30) – TPA (21:10) Twice weekly on Monday/Friday using the A...
Jump to postJFK-CCS is about 2100 nm and well within the range of a 320. Flight time would only be about five hours, a bit longer than flights to AUA routinely flown with a 320. :banghead: I am such an idiot, looked at it on googlemaps.com and showed nine, then did it again after seeing your post and shows 2,1...
Jump to postall Intl flying out of JFK was basically old PA routes....UA flew to CCS with the 320 and GIG was flown with a SP when i was on that flt,,,,along with what USAirALB posted LHR was flown 3x a day as well JFK-CCS flight was an A320? What am I missing with your statement? That's a nine plus hour fligh...
Jump to postWhen will we likely see responses from the airlines with their proposals? We already know UA is going to apply for IAH and GUM. They already tilted their hand. If I am AA, I try to think outside the box. Requests for more DFW or LAX will certainly be shot down. They did apply for LAS before the pan...
Jump to postThis has to be for onward St.Louis-Europe connections. There must be virtually no local traffic. YUL has become a very hot tourist spot for Americans, especially in the summer. There is going to be some sort of a local tourist market from almost any relatively large US city east of the Mississippi ...
Jump to postAUS is premium heavy, yes, which is what keeps the carriers here (none of them are doing ‘atrocious’ - carriers don’t hang around in secondary markets if they’re losing money hand over fist.). LH has been slow to recover post-pandemic, but they are increasing their frequency at AUS to 4x week. AUS ...
Jump to postJust visiting the KHPN website. Breeze is down to only 2 destinations Charleston SC which is also served by JetBlue. And Vero Beach. They dropped Norfolk and Jacksonville and not sure but think they flew Savannah for a bit and if so is gone as well.. If only they advertised in the New York Market. ...
Jump to postGenuinely curious - if DL is playing that game are they at risk of being fined by the DOT for not utilizing the slot they bid for and not returning it willingly? DL will hold on to the slot as long as they possibly can in order to keep any competition from possibly entering the PDX-Asia market. But...
Jump to postIt still amazes me how much discussion PA gets on the forum, but given the complexity of their all-time-high network and the subsequent sales, I can see why. Crazy to think that there was a point when US airlines had hubs across the world and were flying flights that didn’t at all operate to the US...
Jump to postBig focus on the west. Really nice to see SBA back. That was the largest hole in the DL network on the west coast, IMO. Very surprised they will be trying ATL, though DL has been willing to try ATL-secondary California cities in the past. Nice to see ATL-RNO back as well.
Jump to postLas Vegas Base opened on Thursday. Apparently a second plane could be based there in 2024. I think LAS has quite a bit of potential for XP given the large market and demographics that fit into XP's business model, but a lot of that mirrors G4 which is very established at LAS. At HVN (and CT general...
Jump to postIt's so bizarre to me that they have partnerships with WestJet and Aeromexico but no route to either of those countries from a hub... Back to Delta network, I cannot understand this comment. Delta has dozens of routes to Canada and Mexico from its hubs. This post is referring to BOS. How BOS is a h...
Jump to postSomewhat random question, but how will the HNL-HND flight be staffed? Does DL have a FA base in either city anymore, or will a crew do a flight from the mainland, layover in HNL, then work the HND flight?
Jump to postThe only reason I think Delta would look at BWI is to increase flights from the Washington, D.C. catchment area to remain somewhat relevant in the area where AA (National, slot restricted) and UA (Dulles, large hub) have significant service. Would be seen as a maintaining substantial service in wha...
Jump to postHere are the Q1 2023 PDEW's of the top contiguous U.S. markets traveled to from Greater Los Angeles that don't currently have DL nonstop service out of Greater Los Angeles (Source: https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-Report-Table-6-Contiguous-State-C/yj5y-b2ir/explore): Greate...
Jump to postDL also use to do JFK-SNN pre-COVID although with the days of the 75S doing trans-Atlantic all but over outside of KEF, doubt we see that come back. They supposedly were very close to launching JFK-ORK pre-Covid too - a route we could perhaps see come up again in the near future? Speaking at the Co...
Jump to postThere hasn't been a hurricane in California in a very long time, as the Pacific is just too cold. Every hurricane that tries falls apart almost immediately. Over my nearly 60 years in California, I've heard doom and gloom about "a hurricane is a-comin!", only to see it self-destruct like ...
Jump to postSmaller airports with at least one DL P2P route: -AMS -CDG BOS-LHR will be dropped soon. AMS and CDG are hardly "smaller airports" - they are hubs. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/delta-air-lines-announces-june-quarter-2023-financial-results-301876161.html What is your source tha...
Jump to postHere’s all of DL’s P2P routes (without double counting) let me know if I’m missing any. DL “focus cities” are: -RDU -CVG -AUS -MIA -MCO -LAS I think that AUS and RDU are the only ones DL continues to expressly label as "focus cities", though I think most people would consider CVG and MCO ...
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