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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 23235

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

I am skeptical about how genuine the KLM are in what they are saying. I see it as green-washing directed at consumers to identify KLM as being environmentally progressive, choose them and be willing to pay more. If they were genuinely concerned about the cause, I would expect to see some concrete a...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 23235

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

It makes good sense, you know. Exactly how profitable do you think those short flights are? Amsterdam is slot constrained and the pilot shortage is looming. Better to spend your resources on the big money earners. And if KLM gets to sell the train ticket, why not? Brussels, Düsseldorf, Bremen, Hamb...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris AIr Show 2019: Other Manufacturers and Engine News and Orders Thread
Replies: 163
Views: 26676

Re: Paris AIr Show 2019: Other Manufacturers and Engine News and Orders Thread

There were a couple of additional orders to be reported:

Leonardo
2x AW139 for Wiking Helicopter
2x AW169 for NHV
5x AW139 for Italy National Fire Corps

Airbus Helicopter
1x ACH160 for Shenzehn Eastern
undisclosed number of H145 for Pawan Hans

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread
Replies: 475
Views: 124601

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Virgin Atlantic orders 14 Airbus A330-900neos + 6 options https://twitter.com/thatjohn/status/1140555271816785920 https://twitter.com/thatjohn/status/1140555780304900096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9QRbpGXkAEjXKP.jpg edit: So according to the above it appears from the firm 14, 8 are direct orders ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread
Replies: 475
Views: 124601

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Air Lease has placed 10 A321-200neo with Sichuan Airlines on long-term lease: Air Lease Corporation (NYSE: AL; ALC) announced today long-term lease agreements for ten Airbus A321-200neo aircraft with Sichuan Airlines. Scheduled to deliver from ALCs order book with Airbus starting in 2021 through 202...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri May 17, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Climate Change - Is aviation heading for a slump?
Replies: 96
Views: 9482

Re: Climate Change - Is aviation heading for a slump?

Modern nuclear technology, at the moment, and presuming a level regulatory playing field is the cheapest way to generate huge amounts of power. That´s not reality today. Hickley Point C, still under construction, got a strike price of GBP 92.50 per MWh. The Moray East Offshore Wind Farm has a strik...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH orders 20 B789 and 20 additional A350; Will sell 6 A380s back to Airbus
Replies: 351
Views: 54371

Re: LH orders 20 B789 and 20 additional A350; Will sell 6 A380s back to Airbus

And that´s probably the reason why no A330neo was considered - this competition was about replacement of the long-haul fleet (772, 343, 346, 744 etc), not about the "medium-haul" (strange what is considered medium-haul nowadays"). The competition was clearly between the 789 and 359, a...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kenya Airways to consider Airbus models
Replies: 62
Views: 15198

Re: Kenya Airways to consider Airbus models

I predict this issue will be fixed within a month, and forgotten by two, minuscule if any affect on orders. Might be, but I think it´s not realistic. Whatever the fix will be it will be thoroughly tested and I´m quite sure not only by FAA bus EASA, CAA etc. That will take a while - and you´ll need ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716425

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Vietnam won´t issue operational licences for B738MAX for the time being: https://vietnamnews.vn/society/506863/vn-aviation-authority-will-not-grant-licences-for-boeing-737-max-8-aircrafts.html Indoneisa is grounding B737MAX: https://www.wsj.com/articles/indonesia-follows-china-in-grounding-boeing-73...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders
Replies: 201
Views: 58388

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

25 x A320neo cancellation was from Germania. As they ceased operations this year, hardly surprising. Actually that´s quite surprising as there was more or less common understanding that these orders had been transfered to a different entity prior filing for administration, and were the only "a...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Fleet Thread - 2019
Replies: 153
Views: 30343

Re: Lufthansa Fleet Thread 2019

Flying-Tiger wrote:
Is it already known which wet-lease provider will fly for Lufthansa on a scheduled basis this summer?

I´m aware of:
Air Baltic with 2x A220-300
Air Nostrum with 2x CRJ1000
SunExpress with 2x B737-800


Adjusting my list: Adria Airways will provide 2x CRJ900, too.

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Fleet Thread - 2019
Replies: 153
Views: 30343

Re: Lufthansa Fleet Thread 2019

Is it already known which wet-lease provider will fly for Lufthansa on a scheduled basis this summer?

I´m aware of:
Air Baltic with 2x A220-300
Air Nostrum with 2x CRJ1000
SunExpress with 2x B737-800

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.
Replies: 197
Views: 44908

Re: Reuters: Airbus pencils in orders for new A321XLR jet.

Airbus will make an easy profit, in my opinion, on the xLR. The question is, will NMA sales be impacted? Not much in my opinion. This is a market expanding option. Lightsaber I tend to disagree. The A321XLR will be able to capture the remaining part of the small part of 757-200 still operating as p...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Etihad restructures aircraft orders
Replies: 83
Views: 13838

Re: Etihad restructures aircraft orders

So a net loss of 11 widebodies and also of planes of more value. Swapping A380/A350 for fewer A330neo. Not the best news for Airbus but better for them I guess than just the cancellations and EK ordering B787/more 777X? Probably the best out come for Airbus - and I guess we can pretty much expect b...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa CEO Spohr changes his stance on Berlin, wants TXL to be kept open...
Replies: 69
Views: 12155

Re: Lufthansa CEO Spohr changes his stance on Berlin, wants TXL to be kept open...

Perhaps LH should make a big investment to fix the intolerable conditions at TXL...if they want it to remain open. Different to Franfurt Terminal 1 and Munich Terminal 2 Lufthansa doesn´t own terminal space at TXL. That´s the airport company in state´s hands if I remember correct. Thus it´s up to t...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 605
Views: 158159

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

What drives the huge uptick in the Dec numbers from the OEM's? Is it internally driven i.e sales staff working extra hard to get orders in or is it customer driven i.e need to get orders in before year end etc? Or a bit of both? If it is internally driven is it not risky to leave it so late and ris...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Britain To Purchase Five Boeing E-7 Early Warning Radar Aircraft
Replies: 83
Views: 15459

Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Sometimes you just have to admire a sensible decision: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/11/15/uk-mod-other-bidders-didnt-have-a-chance-against-boeing-wedgetail/ “In considering the E-7 Wedgetail , there was such a clear distinction over any other options it was felt that running any type of com...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 386966

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

EY cannot increase its stake on its own due to takeover code regulations. Meanwhile "hot candidate" Vistara is cointinung growing on its own: 9 A320-200neo and 6 A321-200neo on lease from ALC https://www.streetinsider.com/Corporate+News/Air+Lease+%28AL%29+Announces+Lease+Placement+of+15+N...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skyleasecargo RWY excursion at YHZ
Replies: 111
Views: 18276

Re: Skyleasecargo RWY excursion at YHZ

Clearly a hull loss, fuselage broken behind wing box. Plus all engines ripped of the wing. Probably quite lucky that there was no post-accident fire.

https://twitter.com/CarlPomeroyCTV/status/1060109454530830336

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 386966

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

If true just another sign of things not being in order at Jet Airways: Jet Airways (9W, Mumbai Int'l) has delayed payments of August wages to 15% of its staff, well over 2,000 employees, due to the looming cash crisis, the Financial Times has reported. An airline spokesperson insisted that all staff...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 22362

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

in Q2 2018 deferred production cost for the 787 went from 24,690 million USD to 24,251 million USD a reduction of 449 million USD. Unamortized Tooling and Other Non-Recurring Cost went from 3,042 to 2,899 million USD, 143 million USD reduction Together 592 million USD, about 15.58 million USD reduc...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Narrowbody Freighter requirements
Replies: 18
Views: 2410

Re: Narrowbody Freighter requirements

Other threads are wondering which market will absorb the narrowbodies hitting the second hand market given the huge new orders for 73´s A32xs. Well here is your answer.There is a great deal of 733 & 734F´s out there that will some need replacing. I have my doubts on Airbus efforts as they seem ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing
Replies: 48
Views: 10048

Re: Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing

Though I had expected some more details to emerge last week during the Farnborough Air Show the only piece of information I was able to find is this: The German company (Chalet B14, Outside Exhibit 35), a subsidiary of U.S.-based Sierra Nevada Corp., has been attempting to relaunch production. An Mo...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Airbus Order Thread
Replies: 226
Views: 103019

Re: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Airbus Order Thread

Airbus ix expecting 500 commitments for the show https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/farnborough-airbus-expects-over-500-show-sales-450438/?cmpid=SOC|Twitter|Flightglobal|sf193883154|sf193883154&sfid=701w0000000uP3H#sf193883154 Based on the daily summaries plus today´s order (MoU) for 6 ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Airbus Order Thread
Replies: 226
Views: 103019

Re: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Airbus Order Thread

Undisclosed customer orders six A330neo Family aircraft https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2018/07/undisclosed-customer-orders-six-a330neo-family-aircraft.html That one will be interesting to see how it will be booked - the wording points towards a mix of -800/900s, not only -900s.

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Other Manufacturers/Engine Order Thread
Replies: 90
Views: 24237

Re: Farnborough Air Show 2018 - Other Manufacturers/Engine Order Thread

ATR has started early with its annoucements:

EWA Air for 2x ATR 72-600 (MoU)
Drukair for 1x ATR42-600 (firm)
Aurigny for 3x ATR72-600 (LoI)
Air Saint-Pierre for 1x ATR42-600 (MoU)
Air Botswana for 2x ATR72-600 (firm)
Italy Guardia di Finanza for 1x ATR72-600MP

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HiFly takes delivery of first A380
Replies: 179
Views: 53051

Re: HiFly takes delivery of first A380

I am puzzled in that if HiFly says they have had more demand than they were initially expecting, then why lease only 2? "More demand than initially expected" does not automatically translate into "need more than two" in the real world, and no amount of experience will change tha...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Undisclosed Order for 10 A330NEOs and 10 A350s
Replies: 107
Views: 17999

Re: Undisclosed Order for 10 A330NEOs and 10 A350s

Yes. The A350 is a new customer to A350. A330neo is the -900 and a current customer. Possibly Delta or TAP. That´s the exact wording at Airbus: Turkish Airlines booked 25 A350 XWBs in the A350-900 version, and 10 A350-900s were ordered by an undisclosed client. Both are new customers for the A350 X...

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by Flying-Tiger
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough International Airshow 2018 Potential Orders
Replies: 105
Views: 17781

Re: Farnborough International Airshow 2018 Potential Orders

Aeromexico is connected to the C-Series for a Farnborough order - at least Airliner World´s editor seems to think so.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/bombardier-poised-to-announce-more-orders-for-cseries-37048035.html

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing
Replies: 48
Views: 10048

Re: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing

They will need upgrades though - the 328s are aging planes with old technology. I dont think this will happen. Don´t think this is question by anyone - technology certainly has moved further, and a lot of systems can or need to be updated. However, as the type certificate holder 328 Support Service...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing
Replies: 48
Views: 10048

Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing

328 Support, owner of the type certificates of the 328 Turboprop and 328Jet, intends to re-start production of the 30 seaters in light of there being no other competitors being in production nowadays, a steadily ageing fleet of EMB-120, DH8-100/200, 328/328Jet, ERJ-135 and SF340 and demand still bei...

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by Flying-Tiger
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win
Replies: 132
Views: 27341

Re: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win

I think he´s right not to panic - there are always ups and downs. If I´m not mistaken there are currently 14 direct clients (ouright purchase from Airbus), thereof a bit less than 1/3 lessor orders. Of these 61 lessor orders from Avalon, BOC, CIT and Air Lease, several have been placed already with ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon May 07, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.
Replies: 164
Views: 39016

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

Feel free to give us your take then. On the record. Actually, I thought this thread was pretty much free of the usual partisan nonsense. People who I had mind-labelled as Boeing fanboys saying the 777X order is in trouble, and likewise Airbus fanboys with the A350. All in all, a rather mature discu...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon May 07, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.
Replies: 164
Views: 39016

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

Cancel the 787-9 and -10 order altogehter and sell the existing -9 fleet on the market, full replacement with the A350-900/1000 fleet. Furthermore getting rid of the 777X - or at least delay it. Or... Or... Or... Might not be the obivous ones. Might as well be a question if something moves in the se...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 301
Views: 41027

Re: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes

Problem for Boeing: if they try to repeat the AA order again - underbidding Airbus again - you´ll immediately have a whole lot of current and like future 787 clients on your doorsteps threatening to pull a simiarl stunt. Either Boeing lowers their price, or they move to Airbus - it´s quite a hot fir...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 605
Views: 158159

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

http://aviationweek.com/awincommercial/ ... 30-900-alc
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Geoff1947 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Whats the status of the A330neo order from Hifly? Is it through a lessor and then to them?


Just a story, no order announced.

Geoff


Not correct. Hi Fly is taking its first A330-900neo on lease from ALC.

http://aviationweek.com/awincommercial/ ... 30-900-alc

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the A338
Replies: 123
Views: 17253

Re: Future of the A338

Don´t think there is much to worry about at the moment. The A330-300 was out in the market much earlier than the -200 was, thus the replacement cycle has started much earlier, which is reflected in the orders. And: even if the -800neo is not (commercially) not taking off: taking risks is part of eve...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Wet-Leases Summer 2018
Replies: 17
Views: 1878

Lufthansa Wet-Leases Summer 2018

Long-Term wet-leases by legacy carrier are not too common in European skies,but it appears Lufthansa will be an exception this year with quite a couple of wet-leases operating for them: Helvetic: 2x F100 out of Munich Air Nostrum: 2x CRJ1000 out of Frankfurt Privateair: 1x BBJ I´ve seen Adria being ...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3491
Views: 430775

Re: Why is Boeing waiting to officially launch the NMA or the "797?"

Thank you Revelation and Newbiepilot, you guys get it. Anetters don't get it,no, do not understand this because it has nothing to do with aviation. Its Logistics and Manufacturing, boring tedious stuff. Just like Airbus learned from the A380 mistakes and produced the A350 pretty much on time and bu...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3491
Views: 430775

Re: Why is Boeing waiting to officially launch the NMA or the "797?"

COPA has raisd the bar, from my point of view excessively high: "The existing widebodies make no sense," he tells FlightGlobal ahead of the US Chamber of Commerce aviation summit in Washington DC. "But the NMA might make sense for Copa, if it gives us more capacity and range in what w...

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by Flying-Tiger
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3491
Views: 430775

Re: Why is Boeing waiting to officially launch the NMA or the "797?"

An still there is the question if Boeing can really make a business case for a MOM / 797. Airlines will always cry for it and will love a shiny new plane - if the price is right, and the operationel benefits are high enough, the commonaility is good enough and - if the price is right. With current l...

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine Airlines looking at acquiring A350-1000 aircraft
Replies: 11
Views: 5999

Re: Philippine Airlines looking at acquiring A350-1000 aircraft

The Manila Bulletin actually uses exactely that word:

Philippine Airlines (PAL) is interested in acquiring the new US$366-million Airbus A350-1000, which arrived in Manila for the first time yesterday for a series of demonstration flights, PAL President and COO Jaime J. Bautista told reporters.

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by Flying-Tiger
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas let one of 15 787 options expire, confirms 18 A321LR aircraft
Replies: 65
Views: 17347

Re: Qantas Group let one of 15 787 options expire, mulls A321neo

zkojq wrote: EK413 wrote: I’m sure there is a lot more to it than topping up the B789’s order books at QF. They have a young A330 fleet which eventually would require replacement and the B789 is a good fit and even the B7810 is a great fit. The A330-300's have already been scheduled for replacement...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group is standardizing its Airbus A320 fleet
Replies: 15
Views: 5794

Re: Lufthansa Group is standardizing its Airbus A320 fleet

Amazes me this hasn’t be done previously? Very likely not the biggest fish to fry in winning synergies. Whilest pretty visual, it´s iggest effects are during purchase (scale effects) and later with somewhat reduced training. Comparing this to enhancing network connectivity by better managing capaci...

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer re-entering the Turboprop market?
Replies: 75
Views: 14404

Re: Embraer re-entering the Turboprop market?

ATR was designed in the 80's after which there has not been very much development, 212 being launched in the 90's. DHC-8 has even longer history, though Q400 was introduced in 2000. A regional jet of comparable age includes BAe 146 which is quite uncomfortable. Not quite true. The next ATR developm...

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by Flying-Tiger
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 161964

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

qf789 wrote:
Orders for DEC
Qatar AIrways 50 X 321neo


Is this a new one and we see the A320neo order being cancelled in December, or is this in addition to the A320neo order?

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China new order for 184 Airbus A320 delivery 2019-2020
Replies: 32
Views: 7058

Re: China new order for 184 Airbus A320 delivery 2019-2020

Not sure if we can link it fully to this announcement, but Hainan Airlines has signed a MoU for Leap 1As to power 55 A320neo. As far as I know they´re currently having none on order, anyone able to confirm?

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by Flying-Tiger
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What if the Dornier 728/928 entered production?
Replies: 26
Views: 3916

Re: What if the Dornier 728/928 entered production?

It's a great pity that the Do728 could not see the light and enter service. This Dornier failure is one of those instances in which I am wondering whether state intervention should be considered and even encouraged in order to save a prestigious name, and the associated technology and know-how. Sam...

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