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by westgate
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: easyJet to close crew bases at Stansted, Southend and Newcastle
Replies: 46
Views: 8437

Re: easyJet to close Stansted, Southend and Newcastle

Should modify the subject line to make it clear that the airline is closing crew bases at these airports - the article says the airline will continue to serve these points. But if they are going to continue to serve those points, I assume that it will nevertheless be at a reduced schedule with a fe...

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by westgate
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Building airports at the sea
Replies: 20
Views: 5582

Re: Building airports at the sea

Would be neat if AMS moved to sea, but it seems it will never happen. Government claims it would be too much money. Money is not the only reason, the Dutch coast is pretty much full. And I don’t think they can built an airport without mass protests. When I think of sea in the Netherlands, I don't a...

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by westgate
Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 183257

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

It would be interesting to find the reason for that selection. The only idea I have is because of the visaless travel between those countries. There are hard hit countries outside the Schengen Area in Europe. This action does not make much sense, as the main vector of the sickness in the USA is not...

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by westgate
Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental 747's and EWR
Replies: 51
Views: 6981

Re: Continental 747's and EWR

In December 1991 I flew CO 742's roundtrip from EWR to ORY. I can vaguely remember another 742 at the gate in EWR departing for MAD. In August 1992 I flew CO 742's from LAX-HNL-AKL-BNE. Pretty sure there was a change of plane in HNL but definitely same plane service on HNL-AKL-BNE. Then flew a CO DC...

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by westgate
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue turns 20
Replies: 88
Views: 8739

Re: JetBlue turns 20 today.

I remember staying in a backpacker hostel in NY in July 2000 and seeing a JetBlue luggage tag with ONT on it in one of the dorms and thinking what is this strange new airline and what an odd route to be flying from JFK to ONT. Little did I know that they would not only stick around for the next 20 y...

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by westgate
Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF to end scenic flights to Antarctica?
Replies: 55
Views: 13824

Re: QF to end scenic flights to Antarctica?

I know I sound like a snob but it was a really low class crowd, I expected retired school teachers but it was more chemical plant workers from Bankstown. Don't worry, you definitely don't sound like a snob. Sounds like you got a flight with a large number high paid blue collar workers (the ones wit...

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by westgate
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas operates its last commercial 747 service to the US
Replies: 33
Views: 9546

Re: Qantas operates last commercial 747 service to the US

It's a pity they didn't make a nice round 50, but I'm not entirely sad to see them going. Makes a change from the all 747 airline QF was before it ate Australian. Not true. QF had a fleet of 767-238ERs and 767-338ERs before it merged with TN in 1992. They were used on mid-haul routes to Asia and NZ...

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by westgate
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas operates its last commercial 747 service to the US
Replies: 33
Views: 9546

Re: Qantas operates last commercial 747 service to the US

It's a pity they didn't make a nice round 50, but I'm not entirely sad to see them going. Makes a change from the all 747 airline QF was before it ate Australian. Not true. QF had a fleet of 767-238ERs and 767-338ERs before it merged with TN in 1992. They were used on mid-haul routes to Asia and NZ...

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by westgate
Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 16764

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

Slightly off topic, but what exactly was the reason why Air Canada switched to 737's from 320's? Did they get a great deal from Boeing or did they believe the aircraft to be that much more efficient? This always struck me as odd as usually airlines switch in the other direction from 737's to 320's....

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by westgate
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 16764

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

I’d also go as far as saying that the A320 and it’s variants are superior in build quality when compared to the 737....I know many guys in Air Canada’s technical support division are rather disgusted with the new 737s and their dismal build quality and systems architecture compared to the A320s. Ev...

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by westgate
Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Woman in love with 737-800
Replies: 38
Views: 7984

Re: Woman in love with 737-800

It sounded weird already the first time around: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1315415 Ah yes, I had a suspicion that this probably wasn't the first that anyone had heard of this. British tabloids have a habit of recycling old news stories. Nothing came up in the search function th...

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by westgate
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Woman in love with 737-800
Replies: 38
Views: 7984

Woman in love with 737-800

MEET THE WOMAN HAS BEEN IN LOVE WITH BOEING PLANE FOR FIVE YEARS A woman says she’s been in a five year relationship with the love of her life - a passenger jet she calls 'darling'. Michele Köbke, 30, from Berlin, Germany considers herself in a relationship with the Boeing 737-800. Michele says she...

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by westgate
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why does MAN get so few BAW international flights and destinations?
Replies: 52
Views: 17467

Re: Why does MAN get so few BAW international flights and destinies?

I think the biggest reason is that the vast majority of premium and business traffic in the UK flies in and out of Heathrow. That's where the big money is and so that's where BA concentrates it's services. After the London airports, MAN is the only other airport in the UK that gets above 20 million ...

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by westgate
Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ed Bastian: SkyTeam Failed
Replies: 68
Views: 20510

Re: Ed Bastian: SkyTeam Failed

But the other major players in SkyTeam, especially as far as DL is concerned, do in fact have strong tie ups or are also partly owned by DL, such as of course AF, KL, KE and AM. These tie-ups or ATI's all operate under the SkyTeam banner regardless. The only major exception is of course VS which is ...

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by westgate
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL, VS boost summer flying between U.S. and U.K. in 2020
Replies: 69
Views: 16647

Re: Delta international announcement later today

I think it’s just as much a strategic move, in an attempt to undermine a B6 TATL expansion. I expect so. I further suspect that DL has a war room where they're evaluating every potential TATL 321LR/XLR B6 destination from BOS - and seeing if they want to start it first, to suck all of the oxygen ou...

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by westgate
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: US DOT awards Haneda slots
Replies: 821
Views: 153748

Re: Updated: US DOT awards Haneda slots

Final order is out today. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBipzYrWsAEDDCK?format=jpg So other than the DL flights, which according to the other thread should all be switching over from NRT, what will the likely situation be with the other airlines ? Is AA going to go double daily on LAX-HND and will th...

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by westgate
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why Does Thomas Cook Fly NYC (JFK)-MAN?
Replies: 26
Views: 4330

Re: Why Does Thomas Cook Fly NYC (JFK)-MAN?

MAN doesn't just serve Manchester, it is in fact by far the largest airport in the entire north of England, and therefor also serves as the major international airport for the cities of Liverpool, Leeds and Sheffield, as well as for any other decent sized urban centre relatively close by such as Sto...

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by westgate
Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta has another napkin SNAFU
Replies: 28
Views: 7123

Re: Delta has another napkin snaffoo

I'm sorry but every time I glance at that phrase I automatically see it as 'with out you in it'. As another poster mentioned, 'with you out in it' is an incredibly awkward and clunky use of word order in English. It's so awkward that your brain automatically fixes it for you, with unintended consequ...

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by westgate
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: HNL-LON Nonstop?
Replies: 23
Views: 4602

Re: HNL-LON Nonstop?

Europe has the Canaries and Balearic islands, and many other Mediterranean destinations. This is essentially the same thing as asking for JFK-LPA nonstop. This is true and the Canaries are indeed somewhat similar to Hawaii, however many British travellers fly all the way to Australia just for a bea...

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by westgate
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Will the United States invade Iran?
Replies: 97
Views: 6602

Re: Will the United States invade Iran?

Your assertion that "the average American Jew "is likely far too secularized and far too liberal to even care what happens to Israel these days" is patently false; they care and they vote. They vote for Israel's survival because that is how the subject is presented to them; they are ...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Will the United States invade Iran?
Replies: 97
Views: 6602

Re: Will the United States invade Iran?

Indeed. Trump will start WW3 just to piss off Obama. And to solidify Jewish support in 2020. While not all American Jews are rabid Zionists, they almost all will vote as they're told when it comes to issues affecting Israel's "security". Most American Jews, or at least a very significant ...

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by westgate
Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am New York to Tehran flights
Replies: 52
Views: 7823

Re: Pan Am New York to Tehran flights

I'm not sure what's weirder: the fact a U.S. carrier once flew to Iran, or that the same carrier also flew to Pakistan Times certainly change. Those were the days when Afghanistan was on every backpacker's itinerary when overlanding through Asia. It sure was, it was a major fixture on the 'Hippy Tr...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update: The AAirpass & How It Cost AA Dearly
Replies: 35
Views: 5413

Re: Update: The AAirpass & How It Cost AA Dearly

I think the real moral of this story is, no matter how wildly successful you are in terms of business, career or wealth, or what amazing perks you can achieve from that success, such as a lifetime AA pass that allows you to fly yourself and anyone else anywhere at anytime, you can still lead an extr...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What’s happening at BHM?
Replies: 53
Views: 5294

Re: What’s happening at BHM?

westgate - "And considering all the factors as to why people would rather drive short distances nowadays, then why on earth are there 11 x daily mainline flights from BHM to ATL. That certainly seems like a lot of passenger traffic to an airport that's only a 2 hour drive away !!" - that ...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What’s happening at BHM?
Replies: 53
Views: 5294

Re: What’s happening at BHM?

Slightly off topic, but looking at the 1999 OAG North American timetable on Departed Flights, BHM used to have a lot more service to other southern cities that have now all but dissapeared, with the only ones left being the mega-hubs of ATL and CLT and destinations in Texas and Florida. There used ...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What’s happening at BHM?
Replies: 53
Views: 5294

Re: What’s happening at BHM?

Slightly off topic, but looking at the 1999 OAG North American timetable on Departed Flights, BHM used to have a lot more service to other southern cities that have now all but dissapeared, with the only ones left being the mega-hubs of ATL and CLT and destinations in Texas and Florida. There used t...

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by westgate
Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019
Replies: 429
Views: 65439

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Cobham's first Q400 has just ferried to SNN for painting, expect it to arrive in PER before the end of the month. Three year old frame, ex D-ABQS of LGW/Air Berlin. What kind of a routing would that take on it's way to Perth ? Would seem like quite a long journey with quite a few stops en-route. Sa...

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by westgate
Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA at FRA
Replies: 21
Views: 5003

Re: UA at FRA

FRA obviously serves Frankfurt, which although a major European financial centre, really has almost zero tourist draw for Americans, especially compared to other German cities like Berlin and Munich. Wouldn't say it's almost zero. 660.000 Americans stayed in Frankfurt overnight in 2018, compared to...

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by westgate
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA at FRA
Replies: 21
Views: 5003

Re: UA at FRA

I think it partially has to do with the fact that there are many more Star Alliance hubs, so their flights are more spread out around them. LH, unlike BA, AF and KL, doesn't just have one huge fortress hub such as LHR, CDG or AMS, but has two decent size hubs in FRA and MUC. And then add in the hubs...

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by westgate
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

What is the busiest European airport by International passenger numbers not served by US3? Seeing as VIE has been mentioned in this thread I would imagine if that isn’t Number 1 it would be up there. Certainly much larger than some airports that have US3 service from one or the other. See my other ...

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by westgate
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

What is the busiest European airport by International passenger numbers not served by US3? That would definitely be the new IST airport. And as it's to the west of the Bosporus, it technically is in Europe. As it just opened there's no full year traffic figures as of yet, but the old Istanbul Atatü...

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by westgate
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

What is the busiest European airport by International passenger numbers not served by US3? That would definitely be the new IST airport. And as it's to the west of the Bosporus, it technically is in Europe. As it just opened there's no full year traffic figures as of yet, but the old Istanbul Atatü...

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by westgate
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

Bhoy wrote:
westgate wrote:
ZRH (Zurich)

DL - 2 flights

ATL - 76W
JFK - 332

AA - 1 flight

PHL - 76W

UA - 3 flights

EWR - 764
SFO - 788
ZRH - 788

where does the third UA flight go? It's presumably not a sightseeing roundtrip. :devil:


No not a sightseeing trip . . . it goes to IAD.

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by westgate
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

Here's the US3's flights to MUC, BRU, ZRH and VIE just to give some balance to UA and the many more Star Alliance hubs. And then I'm going to throw in MAD as well, as that's a significant OW hub. So across LHR/AMS/CDG/FRA/MUC/BRU/ZRH/VIE/MAD for the US3 totals are : DL x 56 flights AA x 41 flights U...

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by westgate
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

AA tomorrow from from LHR to JFK has four flights 101, 105, 107 and 141. If you are counting VS/DL US flights as one at LHR, shouldn’t you count BA/AA LHR ops the same way? Whoops, that was a typo !!! Unfortunately a bit too late to change it now. I decided to only combine DL/VS ops, and not AA/BA ...

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by westgate
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 71
Views: 17554

Re: Delta at LHR

Just made a quick compilation of all flights from DL/VS/AA/UA from USA to LHR/AMS/CDG/FRA for tomorrow 15th July (please excuse any errors or omissions) LHR: DL x 10 flights, VS x 18, AA x 21 and UA x 17. AMS: DL x 21 (same as AA at LHR), AA x 2, UA x 5. CDG: DL x 14, AA x 7, UA x 5. FRA: DL x 3, AA...

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by westgate
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Countries where airlines are biggest brands
Replies: 27
Views: 3259

Re: Countries where airlines are biggest brands

I'm gonna say for the UK, Virgin is overall the biggest brand, of which Virgin Atlantic is a very significant part, along with Virgin Trains, Virgin Money, Virgin Media, Virgin Care, Virgin Active etc. So on it's own, Virgin Atlantic is definitely not the largest, but when combined with all the othe...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019
Replies: 429
Views: 65439

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

On a personal note, back in 2014 I flew United SYD-SFO-IAD-LHR. Not a logical routing to London but I was visiting Europe and the USA (but not Asia) and doing what amounted to a return to Europe with a stopover on the way back worked out significantly cheaper than any RTW option. What made a long j...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019
Replies: 429
Views: 65439

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

BAeRJ100 wrote:
Cobham's first Q400 has just ferried to SNN for painting, expect it to arrive in PER before the end of the month. Three year old frame, ex D-ABQS of LGW/Air Berlin.


What kind of a routing would that take on it's way to Perth ? Would seem like quite a long journey with quite a few stops en-route.

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by westgate
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Two Airlines Talked to For Direct New York to Zagreb Service + Possible AA Expansion at Dubrovnik.
Replies: 36
Views: 7139

Re: Two Airlines Talked to For Direct New York to Zagreb Service + Possible AA Expansion at Dubrovnik.

Per twitter person JonNYC, who seems to know all about AA, PHL-DBV is doing very well. So it isn't that crazy to suggest that AA is looking to extend it or others are eyeing a piece of the pie. It would be interesting to know how much of the flight is connecting traffic via PHL, how well AA compete...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Puts Unaccompanied Minor on Flight to the Wrong Country
Replies: 76
Views: 15096

Re: United Puts Unaccompanied Minor on Flight to the Wrong Country

Side thought: are kids allowed to fly alone internationally at 14? In the age of human trafficking awareness, I would think that would be at best, frowned upon. Well at just 15 I flew alone with my 10 year old younger brother on UA from LAX to SYD. This was back in 1995 though. And to top it off we...

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by westgate
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Berlin Mayor wants Emirates in Berlin
Replies: 42
Views: 6835

Re: Berlin Mayor wants Emirates in Berlin

Fact check: Berlin has EgyptAir, Royal Jordanian, Qatar and Turkish in that area. Shows the no-competition-argument as a fairy tale, and a pretty tired one. Lufty's competition in Berlin is the stiffest of any its German stations. Are you suggesting that's an impressive list of non-EU carriers? Egy...

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by westgate
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KQ100 drops a stowaway
Replies: 48
Views: 11094

Re: KQ100 drops a stowaway

People are desperate, period. Some of you need to have some compassion for your fellow human beings. Even the title of this thread is pretty disgusting! But we have absolutely no idea as to what actually motivated this person to make such a perilous journey in the first place, where they actually c...

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by westgate
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Foreign Carrier Estimated May 2019 Loads
Replies: 24
Views: 2793

Re: DFW Foreign Carrier Estimated May 2019 Loads

Quite amazed at how the QF flight has 129 seats less on the outbound than inbound, although it certainly doesn't appear to make a difference with load factors of around 75% on the inbound anyway. Also interesting to notice that they are only behind Air Canada as the international carrier with the mo...

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by westgate
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KQ100 drops a stowaway
Replies: 48
Views: 11094

Re: KQ100 drops a stowaway

The asylum situation in the UK is nothing special, you get the same all over western europe, probably even better in nordic countries. The UK however is already the home of many people from specific countries (usually former colonies), so people from these countries will go for the UK for that reas...

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by westgate
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What happened to the proposed UA/US merger in the early 2000s?
Replies: 65
Views: 9331

Re: What happened to the proposed UA/US merger in the early 2000s?

Overall, the proposed operation was seen as too East Coast-concentrated. And between CLT, IAD, DCA, BWI, PHL, PIT, LGA and to a lesser extent BOS, it is pretty hard to argue with that. Contrast that with the other airlines at the time...the only other major hub in between all of that would have bee...

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by westgate
Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I have a theory about dragons
Replies: 32
Views: 1697

Re: I have a theory about dragons

Regarding lack of fossil evidence of any large dinosaur species surviving past the mass extinction 56 million years ago, just because none have been found, doesn't necessarily mean they didn't exist even up until quite recently. How many millions/billions/trillions of dinosaurs once lived to have le...

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by westgate
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL CEO Says SLC-ICN "On Our Drawing Board"
Replies: 69
Views: 8793

Re: DL CEO Says SLC-ICN "On Our Drawing Board"

Double-connects face a ton of competition (there's a lot of ways to do MCI-XXX-XXX-SIN, for example) and little premium demand and so generate junk fares. It's why DL has built feed into JFK (for XXX-JFK-XXX) and ATL TATL ops. But then what traffic is responsible for filling up all those DTW-AMS an...

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by westgate
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL CEO Says SLC-ICN "On Our Drawing Board"
Replies: 69
Views: 8793

Re: DL CEO Says SLC-ICN "On Our Drawing Board"

SLC-ICN numbers probably aren't large. XXX-SLC-ICN competes with Delta's own XXX-LAX-ICN and XXX-SEA-ICN. But SLC-ICN-XXX could be useful to many. I would think a route like this is going to survive off primarily double-connect traffic i.e. XXX-SLC-ICN-XXX, which is what I've always assumed fills u...

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by westgate
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia and Virgin Atlantic propose deeper partnership
Replies: 40
Views: 7085

Re: Virgin Australia and Virgin Atlantic propose deeper partnership

What is the current situation with connections at LAX and HKG ? Are their flights coordinated at both airports to provide a layover of only a few hours each way ? Or in some possible itineraries is there something like a 10 hour layover or overnight stay required ? And if they aren't already coordin...

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