mjoelnir wrote:I think the 777-8 will just quietly disappear. It is no match for the far lighter A350-1000.
I'll admit, I'm still bitter over the situation.
I've posted multiple times before asking what role exactly the 777X family plays, and specifically the 777-8.
If the 777-8 isn't the more economical solution for this much flight time, are there any routes for which it is more economically viable?
Age-old question... if a passenger on a plane is using a mobile phone after the safety announcement for airplane mode is made, should anyone even bother pointing it out? Video link, if it still works: https://f.us.sinaimg.cn/004C54belx07vpl3S54Q01041200K0hn0E010.mp4?label=mp4_ld&template=360x640...Jump to post
Regardless of what the information say, Airbus will always be the most optimized manufacturer/aircraft in their eyes. I would advise you to ask other users. Wow! If you feel so aggrieved post some information and not just slander. You just denigrate your own position when you post statements like t...Jump to post
Question specific to zeke or to flipdewaf. The numbers posted (namely the simulation run by flipdewaf) and zeke's overall comments indicate that the A35K is the more capable plane on this route with the intended specifications. What exactly, or on which routes, would the 778 have an advantage? I'm n...Jump to post
I get chills every time I see a SQ crew head to a gate together. I'm from the US and don't see the same solidarity, even if walking together in itself means nothing in terms of delivered value to the passenger. There is something almost military (i.e. precise) about certain airlines' pre-flight acti...Jump to post
I guess I'm in the minority. Would prefer to have AVOD than have to bring (and for me, buy - I don't own a tablet and I don't find my laptop plane friendly) yet another device of mine. I do, however, find the monumental shift in opinion here interesting. I can't imagine that when movies moved from b...Jump to post
Interesting. I flew two ANA 788s (I think it was also NH801/802, but definitely NRT-SIN-NRT) back in 2014, and there were probably two passengers per row on average for the entire economy cabin. I was surprised at how few people on on the flight. I guess the load factors have improved -- or else the...Jump to post
I assume this is a question about 777-200A vs 777-200ER. All of the 777-200As are in domestic configurations and will never have Premium Plus. All of the 777s doing international services* are 777-200ERs, including those doing TATL flights. * There are a couple of TATL routes being flown by domesti...Jump to post
Am I correct in seeing from the UA fleet site (https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/fleet-total-upgrades) that only 77Es are at the moment running with the Premium Plus seats? I.e. chances of getting a Premium Plus upgrade on a TATL 772 is zero (unless equipment swaps). Are there plans to i...Jump to post
They also have two SQ 772 but they feature the SQ cheatline only. https://i.imgur.com/2rHBVoH.jpg That’s one of the SQ 777s in Auckland last week, which operate for NZ due to the RR engine-issues. Ahh, that explains what I saw a couple weeks ago. I saw one bird on 11/3 and was wondering what such a...Jump to post
I'm years overdue for a visit to Seattle; this will definitely be on my list of places to see.
Anyone know when exactly it'll be on display at the MOF?
The A350 is a mighty fine plane, but the 789 is extremely robust. It's flying distances that the 350 is not, currently. The 789 has amazing range and payload capabilities and if look 5-10 years down the road (likely when NZ would be taking delivery of these replacement planes), it's very likely the...Jump to post
While (really, the German "weil" fits here also) we're all just speculating, my bet is on a hefty order of A350s.
A359 and maybe some ULR to replace the 77Es, then later A35Ks to replace 77Ws.
I don't see a need for a 779-size plane in their fleet.
Pretty sure the B779’s are replacing the B77W’s I probably overcomplicated what I meant. Agreed that the 779s are most likely going to replace the 77Ws -- I was just asking how 86 on-order frames are going to replace 40 A333s and 772s. If the A359s and 787-10s are going to replace the 77Ws (meaning...Jump to post
It's been five years since I last flew with SQ -- then on a 77W from MUC-SIN and this time on their A359 from MUC-SIN. I figured the A359 would replace members of the 777 family, but I was surprised to see that SQ has ordered 60 A359s, which is alone more 777s than it ever had in its fleet. Accordin...Jump to post
Just came across this on Reuters: PARIS/NEW YORK (Reuters) - United Airlines (UAL.N) is in talks with planemakers Airbus (AIR.PA) and Boeing Co (BA.N) over the purchase of wide-body, long-haul passenger jets to replace a fleet of 50 Boeing 767 aircraft, people familiar with the discussions said on T...Jump to post
How full are the LX 77Ws? I've flown on them only to Singapore and both legs of that trip were rather sparse... I had three seats to myself one leg and that load was reflected in most of the economy cabin. (This was, however, nearly two years ago...) Would also love to see a PE on their 77W. I am a ...Jump to post
This is off-topic from the original post, but I figured it's related enough -- I had no idea some of ANA's international fleet was so sparsely seated. Where are their markets for a 212 seat 77W?!Jump to post
Damn the Airbus astroturf campaign. They've successfully mindf**ked an entire swath of aviation enthusiasts who believe, till the cows come home, that "18inch wide seat" is the be all, end all for passenger comfort, and completely subscribe to that. As if that .5 inch of seat with between...Jump to post
Just shows how perfectly right Boeing got the 787 fuselage diameter, offering a perfect balance of comfort and efficiency. I'm replying to this regardless of whether it is sarcasm or bait. 2018 was the first year I could choose between a 777 or 787 and an A350 on the routes I'll fly, and for two fl...Jump to post
Geographically, SIN is about the worst place on the planet to connect to anywhere , if coming from N.America... and SQ they can already tap into AS' routes from SFO and LAX I don't have a globe and have a terrible time picturing flight paths, so would something like ORD - SIN - MEL be thinkable? (G...Jump to post
To the first three posters: does this suit your fancy? It's not tied to an airline, but it allows a fair bit of customization.
Which airplanes are operating which routes, so pardon my ignorance -- what routes have seen 77E --> 787-9 swaps? I know of some 77W routes replaced by A359 (MUC-SIN is one... I can't list any more off the top of my head), but I only know what planes operate which routes currently and not so much wh...Jump to post
I think it is pretty clear that 777 are and will be replaced by both 787s and A350s and that it depends on the route network and operating conditions for each airline to determine what is the best fit. I'm not familiar with which airplanes are operating which routes, so pardon my ignorance -- what ...Jump to post
The discussion is far from pointless, what the OP was asking about is what replacing the 777-200/300 which is in the 250-350 medium to long haul class. The market has more choices than ever, with multiple capabilities in terms of cost, range, and payload. Both Boeing and Airbus have competitive air...Jump to post
All this ( again ) shows what a disaster the 787 was. Had we seen it execute anything close to plan ( like for instance the A350 did ) we'd see Y1 ( 737 replacement ) and Y3 ( 777 replacement ) as clean sheets with total freedom of movement, instead we see the reactionary 737MAX and 778/9. I dont a...Jump to post
the refusal to accept that there are missions for which the A350-900 is better than the 787-9 astounds me. I'm actually quite curious if there are routes that the 787-9 can do better than the A359. Or, put another way, do we have data for conditions under which a 787-9 will be more economical? Ther...Jump to post
.... The reality is only IB & SAA A346s and one or two ex-EY A345s completed the first heavy maintenance interval.... Does this mean that the A346s are getting flat out retired as quickly as the A350s come in? Or that they're getting moved elsewhere in the LH fleet? They weren't bad birds... wi...Jump to post
Never thought that ORD-Australia/New Zealand would be a serious consideration but now that IAH/DFW seem to be going strong and with the 787, it looks like a real possibility. Does "real possibility" imply UA (or NZ) is considering it, or that the fact that IAH/DFW are apparently successfu...Jump to post
Is there an update to what LH plans to do with its A346s or when? The five A380s moving from FRA to MUC are taking some A346 routes, and the A359 is taking up a LOT of A346 routes starting in S18: http://lufthansaflyer.boardingarea.com/lufthansa-announces-aircraft-changes-for-certain-long-haul-route...Jump to post
But... Boeing are doing extremely well, both in orders and deliveries. While Boeing think in shorter-terms than Airbus ( Leahy just underlined that again with his ram-up slides ), they maximize on very sensible criteria : barring the 748i, fact is all their civilian models have been remarkably succ...Jump to post
I'll admit, I cursed out loud when I saw this today out of frustration that Boeing hasn't managed a similar coup in, what, a decade? I see this order as Boeing's loss, and I'm impressed that Airbus pulled it off but not at all surprised. I really, really wish Boeing could pull off something similar...Jump to post
I'll admit, I cursed out loud when I saw this today out of frustration that Boeing hasn't managed a similar coup in, what, a decade? I see this order as Boeing's loss, and I'm impressed that Airbus pulled it off but not at all surprised. I really, really wish Boeing could pull off something similar....Jump to post
Two years ago I flew IAD-MUC, departing NYE and arriving 1/1/2016. I was in Y. The captain announced the first two year "crossings," the first of which was right around the first drink service. The flight attendants wore "Happy New Year!" party hats and the announcement was met w...Jump to post
<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/richiemo" class="quote" target="_blank">richiemo</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i>I'm curious, is this a temporary li...Jump to post
<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Someone83" class="quote" target="_blank">Someone83</a> (<a href="#12" class="quote">Reply 12</a>):<br/><i>D-AIUQ is not a NEO, but a CEO version...Jump to post
<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FRAEDDF" class="quote" target="_blank">FRAEDDF</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>Still only flying intra-German routes from <...Jump to post
Well I for one approve. <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/> Beautiful plane, bland through its proliferation across so many fleets it may be. As an engineer I can only marvel at its timelessness. It might not be...Jump to post
I just flew on D-AIUQ today (<acronym title="Barcelona (- El Prat) (BCN / LEBL), Spain">BCN</acronym> - <acronym title="CURRENT: Munich (- Franz Josef Strauss) (MUC / EDDM), Germany AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC</acronym> as LH1813) and there were only three rows up fron...Jump to post
<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Birdwatching" class="quote" target="_blank">Birdwatching</a> (<a href="#60" class="quote">Reply 60</a>):<br/><i>What's remarkable is how many th...Jump to post
I flew on LX2807 today (which Flightaware incorrectly lists as an A321) from <acronym title="Geneva - International (Cointrin) (GVA / LSGG), Switzerland">GVA</acronym> to <acronym title="Zurich (- Kloten) (ZRH / LSZH), Switzerland">ZRH</acronym>. Around two hours after deplaning in <acronym title="Z...Jump to post
Terrific day, Soren -- hope all the legs were good. Did you have the same flight attendants? <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/biggrin.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/> May I ask your line of work, if you flew in from Stuttgart? Are you with one of t...Jump to post
Looking forward to the updates tomorrow! I'll be on ZUR-<acronym title="Geneva - International (Cointrin) (GVA / LSGG), Switzerland">GVA</acronym> on Feb 19. Wanted to give it a buffer in case there were delivery issues. <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/bi...Jump to post
This thread is fascinating to me because of the number of people chiming in adamantly about <acronym title="Singapore - Changi (SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN</acronym> -- as if it were a potential destination. I'm curious -- how many people here have flown economy to <acronym title="Singapore - Changi...Jump to post
A lot of good replies to my questions. Thanks for keeping it professional and addressing the specific points. I can finally better grasp the direction Boeing took with the 777X family. I guess I hold the 777 in high enough esteem that I expect its replacement to be another 777 (which the A359 largel...Jump to post