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by bigfoot0503
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I'm now seeing the 767-400ER on the PDX-LHR route for summer on DL.com. Going to book that for a trip in July as I believe all the planes will be modded by then with the new suites. Sounds fancy, so, hope it's nice. Delta announced this in the summer. I remember seeing it but don't remember if it w...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Seeing how UPS left SeaTac for BFI, it's made me wonder if more airlines would use PDX as a cargo reliever airport for the region, but even OZ left for SEA, despite how congested it's getting there. Granted we added CX, but still. Speaking of adding cargo carriers...there was a bit of discussion re...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Maintaining their operational consistency...UPS is again utilizing their fleet of B747 aircraft to operate their Friday flight, 5X2998 SDF-PDX-ANC. Generally, with a few exceptions over the past several months this flight has been conducted with a B747. Today's flight (10-04-2019) is utilizing a &q...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Maintaining their operational consistency...UPS is again utilizing their fleet of B747 aircraft to operate their Friday flight, 5X2998 SDF-PDX-ANC. Generally, with a few exceptions over the past several months this flight has been conducted with a B747. Today's flight (10-04-2019) is utilizing a &qu...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Looks like DL is adding 2x daily PDX-LAS to help feed PDX-HND. What else could we see DL add from PDX? I feel DL should jump into PDX-DEN since AS continues to ignore this market. This is a wonderful add! It makes sense with what DL has already established in LAS with various west coast cities seei...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

No progress on making PHL, BWI or IAD year round. The less than seasonal PDX-PHL and PDX-BWI nonstops have ended without AS, AA or WN announcing that the routes will go year round. Meanwhile, UA’s PDX-IAD will still not be year round in 2020, leaving AS PDX-DCA as the sole nonstop to the DC metro i...

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country adds PDX-SJD
Replies: 11
Views: 1618

Re: Sun Country adds PDX-SJD

Twice a week to Cabo but same days as Alaska. Looks like PDX-BNA is year round but not daily. If they only had more planes. MSY. TPA. MSY and TPA are probably in the pipeline. Along with MIA. I would absolutely hope that Sun Country are considering both New Orleans and Tampa (markets long overdue f...

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

The Delta app shows an A332 in 2020. -- Yeah, I'm looking to book June 2020 currently, and it's showing A332 still. Hopefully that will change over to the new 764ER. I haven't taken many flights on those. Yes, I too have seen that. It's odd then that they have recently publicized the swap to the B7...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

$3.5k return for coach?! Who on earth pays that on a ten hour flight. Don’t you mean for Comfort or Delta One? Cheers The Lion Example (today from Delta app) PDX-LHR 26 Aug/30 Aug round trip Coach $3,494 Comfort+ $3,833 Delta One $10,169 Need to remember that its summer and that booking now for 26t...

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by bigfoot0503
Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Something I found encouraging regarding the DL Portland to London nonstop is the aircraft up-gauge to the newly configured Delta B767-400 (enhanced Delta One offering). The Delta app shows an A332 in 2020. Meanwhile, American is continuing to operate PDX-CLT (AA 1929) routinely late. 16 July Sched ...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

What is the latest on a potential PDX-CDG nonstop? I have not seen nor heard any information other than what an occasional DL PDX employee offers up. If the route were to come to fruition the likely candidate(s) would be Delta or fellow SkyTeam partner Air France. Not sure if this route would be ge...

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by bigfoot0503
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

jplatts wrote:
flyoregon wrote:
Wasn't MKE tried already on a seasonal basis?


AS did operate PDX-MKE nonstop service on a seasonal basis, but dropped PDX-MKE seasonal nonstop service last year.


With that seasonal PDX-MKE service being discontinued...AS then added additional frequency on the PDX-ORD route.

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

According to a recent posting on FlightGlobal.com ..."Volaris plans more US flights after decade of transborder service". "Chicago O'Hare, Phoenix, Portland (Oregon) , San Antonio, San Jose (California) and Seattle are among the US cities where the airline plans to grow service...&quo...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Also of note it appears Amazon added a morning MIA arrival. I've been watching these flights...consistently for a week now the new BWI and MIA arrivals have continued on as PDX-SCK (Stockton, CA) and PDX-ONT. I'm liking the increased cargo activity at PDX. I'm liking it as well..I could see more fl...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Looks like Amazon has added an additional BWI-PDX daily routing for a combined total of 4......Nice seeing some other cargo tails beside UPS and FDX... Also of note it appears Amazon added a morning MIA arrival. I've been watching these flights...consistently for a week now the new BWI and MIA arri...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I hadn't noticed if this topic had its' own thread elsewhere. Frontier Airlines announced n/s PDX-LAS flights starting November 14, 2019. Looks like 2 flights/week. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2019/06/25/frontier-airlines-expansion-9-new-nonstop-routes-las-vegas-cleveland/1558092001/

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by bigfoot0503
Fri May 24, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Honestly, I would argue DL doesn't give a sh!t about PDX. Sure they probably make a little bonus cash & yes, they have history at PDX too but they would much rather allocate their resources elsewhere. Their PDX network is just enough to fend off/keep competition in check. PDX helps them either ...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri May 24, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Honestly, I would argue DL doesn't give a sh!t about PDX. Sure they probably make a little bonus cash & yes, they have history at PDX too but they would much rather allocate their resources elsewhere. Their PDX network is just enough to fend off/keep competition in check. PDX helps them either ...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu May 23, 2019 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

The contraction at PDX widened in April. First negative number for domestic I can remember. Frontier dropped from 122 total flights to 66. JetBlue dropped from 180 flights to 120. Southwest cut from 2,412 flights to 2,192. Spirit reduced flights from 146 to 120. Alaska (excluding Horizon) traffic w...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon May 06, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Looks like today is the first day of FRA-PDX ops on Condor. Currently airborne over Greenland. I believe LHR-PDX kicks off next week, I think the 11th too. Very glad to see these again. PDX-LHR starts 5/9. Plane comes from ATL. LHR-PDX starts 5/10. That may be the last 763 ride ATL-PDX for a while....

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

United appears to have upgauged MFR-LAX from a CRJ2 to an E175 for the majority of recent and upcoming flights -- which they fly 2x per day. Not sure if this is a temporary, seasonal, permanent, or what... Regardless, with AA flying this route daily, and Allegiant flying it 3-4x per week -- looks l...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Just saw this announcement the other day...JetSuiteX service from OAK to BFI (Seattle Boeing Field). https://www.jetsuitex.com/ I know that many of us have discussed the merits of the Hillsboro Airport and the possibility (albeit a long-shot) at offering passenger service and to serve the ever growi...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I’ve noticed UPS has been flying 747s PDX-ANC lately, including today. I've been noticing that for a while now...It seems that every Friday they alternate between a 747-400, 747-800, and an MD-11 on their evening SDF-PDX-ANC routing........... You are indeed correct lhpdx. Notably there are very fe...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Interesting Delta presence scheduled for Sunday March 31, 2019. Of note, the PDX-AMS flight now transitions to an Airbus A330-300. Both DL179 (AMS-PDX) and DL178 (PDX-AMS) witness the seasonal change to the A330-300. Also of note DL607 (ATL-PDX) and DL608 (PDX-ATL) are shown as operating with a B76...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Interesting Delta presence scheduled for Sunday March 31, 2019. Of note, the PDX-AMS flight now transitions to an Airbus A330-300. Both DL179 (AMS-PDX) and DL178 (PDX-AMS) witness the seasonal change to the A330-300. Also of note DL607 (ATL-PDX) and DL608 (PDX-ATL) are shown as operating with a B767...

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I noticed FI coming in yesterday but leaving today. I thought they weren’t overnighting in PDX anymore? I noticed that too. The only information that I had seen previously about the "quick turns" and no more RON for FI at PDX was here on A.Net. Otherwise it looks like the next scheduled f...

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I simply can't shake the feeling that American is a bit slimy. As I suggested before and others have also pointed out, American hasn't really done much here in the Pacific NW and specifically at PDX. I think any consumer who is paying attention will make note of those carriers who bring quality, in...

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible slight change to JetBlue Livery...
Replies: 8
Views: 3125

Re: Possible slight change to JetBlue Livery...

Jet Opinions is only affiliated with JetBlue in the sense that if you agree to sign up with an account, you receive JetBlue points for completing various consumer surveys that are periodically emailed to you. Actually I am enrolled and have earned enough JetBlue points previously to purchase my wife...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I think their response re: PDX-HND speaks volumes about the company that American Airlines is today. They likely know full well they won't get LAS-HND, so if they can knock down a similar type route (in their view) then that makes them feel better I guess. American is in PDX because they can offer ...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Some of American’s arguments and statistics-manipulation are laughable regarding PDX. American is ignoring Oregon’s historic relationship with Japan, the extensive business ties between Oregon and Japan, and the fact that 75,000 Japanese tourists visit Portland annually. Many of them prefer HND and...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

AS737MAX, thank you for posting this here. I was going to do it myself but never got around to it. Here is my take on it, AA knows that their proposed "odd" route is LAS-HND. They have this route as their 4th priority route (if i recall correctly). Delta's "odd" route would be P...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

FA9295 and jbpdx, thought I'd copy in AA's arguments against DL's PDX-HND here: Full PDF available for download here: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2019-0014-0016 Delta’s Portland and Honolulu Proposals, If Granted, Will Squander Scarce Haneda Slot-Pairs While Preventing Competitio...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

It would appear that with all of the recent discussions pertaining to Delta's PDX-HND route filing with the DOT that we missed a milestone last week (02-21-2019). On that date the construction crews at the PDX Concourse E extension project reached the significant step of placing the last beam atop t...

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: US DOT awards Haneda slots
Replies: 795
Views: 141676

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

I've included DLs proposed aircraft type for each route. Also of note, p. 37 of the proposal includes the DL's 339 seat map. Interesting that the PDX-HND application is proposing the 332 rather than the 763 currently used for PDX-NRT. Many on here (myself not included) have been speculating that DL...

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by bigfoot0503
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes
Replies: 48
Views: 6073

Re: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes

AWACSooner wrote:
Well, F9 tried OKC-SAN last year and it didn't stick...doubt WN would do it, as it'll mostly be O/D (unless the flight continues on to the Bay or Vegas, not much connecting opportunities)


Might be a route well suited for service by AS on the E175...eh?

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Has anyone else noticed how much Delta or the Port is investing in advertisements for the PDX-LHR flight? I have seen many billboards around the city, commercials, promos with local news stations and advertisements on magazines. I really hope they do very well on this route to make it year round. I...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future Delta A350 Routes
Replies: 72
Views: 9550

Re: Future Delta A350 Routes

An A350 is too many seats for PDX-NRT. That will see a 767 until the end of 767 ops - or sooner. It’s speculated that the flight will move to PDX-ICN. It’s been speculated for years that DL will end PDX-NRT but it never seems to happen. I’m assuming that the A350 is too much airplane for PDX-ICN to...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Westjet to Austin TX and Portland OR from Calgary
Replies: 37
Views: 6165

Re: Westjet to Austin TX and Portland OR from Calgary

YYC-PDX should do well in the summer. There is enough weirdness in PDX to make the flight work for WS. Maybe they can make it work year-round as it shouldn't be too hard to fill a Q400. YYC-AUS is an interesting one but it should work as well. Just interesting that WS is the first to the market in ...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Westjet adding PDX-YYC is interesting. I guess they'll use D2 along with AC. Maybe D1 as a common use gate? I don't see the route yet in the reservation system, but I'm sure it will take a while for that to show up. I wonder if we'll see a response from AC. Maybe even AS too? If that's successful, ...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Westjet just added PDX-YYC according to the OAG thread. At long last! I can recall discussions years ago on the Oregon Thread regarding WestJet service to PDX (potential of) and the merits of that airline coming to our fine airport. Great to see that it is finally coming to fruition. I believe this...

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Delta is still operating PDX-HNL on Saturdays, looks like through March, after the brief holiday schedule. Was this announced? Also, Hawaiian used the A332 PDX-HNL this weekend. In looking at Delta's schedule for PDX-HNL there are also nonstop flights operating throughout March on Friday's and Sund...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 869
Views: 121350

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Agreed...I'm surprised that SY didn't add a summer seasonal to ANC....... If B6 ever decides to give up on PDX-ANC, I think we will see SY, or maybe even DL, jump on it. There’s room for a second carrier in addition to AS, but not much more. Historically, there seems to have always been a second ca...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

A non-stop to PEK should be priority #1. My company sends people all the time to visit suppliers in China. The Delta flight to Tokyo doesn't work for connections. So it's up to Seattle or down to SFO/LAX to get to China. We don't need more flights to Europe, we need just one more flight to Asia. In...

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by bigfoot0503
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

UA announced ORD-EUG/RDM today, on E175 equipment. EUG is year-round, RDM is seasonal, and both will be daily and will start on June 6, 2019. https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ord-iah-regional-flights/ Excellent news for both airports! The Eugene/Springfield area continues to experience positive...

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by bigfoot0503
Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Now I wish we had the same momentum going for inter-North America flights. MCO was a great add. Just used the flight around a month ago, and the plane was packed full in both directions. Sun Country's expansion at PDX has also been great (although I'm not too confident that their MCO flight will be...

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by bigfoot0503
Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Just did a pdx-ams, nce-ams-pdx route. (Still on the plane waiting to de-board). I tell you, this year round daily service is just a lifesaver. Yes, I’d love to have year round to LHR too... but on days like today... I count my blessings we’ve got what we got. BlatantEcho...I will second your senti...

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by bigfoot0503
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Looks like Amazon cargo has added a second flight a day linking PDX to BDL in addition to PDX to CVG..................Nice to see some cargo growth out of Portland... I saw that as well. Although having only operated for a couple of days thus far I noted that one of the two Amazon cargo flights int...

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by bigfoot0503
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

MFR spotters! VDA1209 shows en route from PAE. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VDA1209 I saw one of these at PDX about six months ago. Apparently they needed to park the plane for a few days, and I guess parking at PDX is cheaper than at PAE. I wonder if this is a similar situation at MFR (sinc...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1408
Views: 132679

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Perhaps I can suggest contacting the Port of Portland. If one can eloquently state the express needs/wants from a consumers point of view...the Port does listen and will respond. I've contacted David Zielke before and I've no doubt that he is hard at work building synergies and exploring options for...

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by bigfoot0503
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska announces El Paso (ELP)!
Replies: 82
Views: 8463

Re: Alaska announces El Paso (ELP)!

ELP is also the main airport for those living in Las Cruces, NM (a city with a population just over 100,000 and becoming more popular due to low cost of living for retirees). Las Cruces is approximately 45 miles from the city limits of El Paso. El Paso also being the home of a thriving university (U...

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