Here's my prediction... We'll recover faster than expected from COVID and we'll be caught with our pants down in 24 months time. There's some estimates now that demand could be that of pre COVID levels as early as next year. The second runway and domestic pier should be a priority. There's a lot of...
Jump to postSince I can't recall seeing it posted here. New baggage and transport centre underway. $100+m on the baggage system alone will get them some decent kit, nice to see them going for a tried and tested product vs some of the gimmicky options out there that are trying to get a foothold in the market. T...
Jump to postIndeed, but overstating it. Typically sky couch is shared by 2 people (1 person isn’t very common). So you’re really only accounting for around 1 dozen seats.
Jump to postNo 77X, it is to big. It will be 789/781 replacing the 77W, A350 won’t happen either. Don’t be so quick to make those kind of statements. Remember the whole industry is in a state of flux right now. Also we have just seen QF go with the A350 despite having 787s. NZs 789s are already several years o...
Jump to postWould there be any chance of Air NZ ordering the 777X? I think it would be a great replacement for the 777-300ERs that will be retired soon. 787-10s can't replace the 777-300ERs, so unless they order the A350-1000, the 777X is the only other option. Is there any chance of this happening? No 77X, it...
Jump to postThe domestic a321N seatmap, seems to be online already. https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/seat-map-airbus-a321neo-217d Not the mid toilet, is moved into the rear of the domestic version, adding a couple of extra seats. Did they move the domestic a321N deliveries forward? It thought they had been dela...
Jump to postNZ is to relocate its Head Office from the CBD, onto there Engineering site at AKL. Mentions it would be near the runway, it would it’s probably in the space that was freed up from the old 747/767 simulator centre, and maybe the old flight kitchen? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/air-new-zealan...
Jump to postThere's been a lot of talk about WLG being in an "awful place" I think we are forgetting that it must be one of the most conveniently located airports to a CBD of anywhere. Sure, it's not great for the Hutt Valley but realistically easily accessible by train and whatever rapid transit opt...
Jump to postThe Ukrainians are holding out so far. the Russian army continues to get chewed up in Kharkiv Oblast, they are not making much headway. The Ukrainians blew a bridge in Chuhuyev, with a Russian convoy on the bridge. https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/04/14/ukrainian-military-claims-it-ha...
Jump to postGiven the timeframes given (decades away to build Australian SSN), the costs to upgrade the Collins class boats, many are putting the pieces together that form the following picture: Scrap the Collins and lease up to 8x Los Angeles class boats from the USN (which are due to be early retired). Then ...
Jump to postGiven the timeframes given (decades away to build Australian SSN), the costs to upgrade the Collins class boats, many are putting the pieces together that form the following picture: Scrap the Collins and lease up to 8x Los Angeles class boats from the USN (which are due to be early retired). Then b...
Jump to postThe interior refit of Air NZ's 789s is mentioned in Slide 23 of the Investor Presentation for the Air NZ Rights Offer. https://airnz.rightsoffer.co.nz About $30M for each aircraft and probably not until after April 2024 for the first aircraft as they don't do refits in peak season. PA515 That's a g...
Jump to postI see that NZ is using the recapitalisation to continue with the new hangar, and to relocate HQ from the city to the airport (among other things). This is the first I’ve heard of relocating HQ to the airport. If certain makes sense in a lot of ways and would reduce a lot of costs/consolidation. It’l...
Jump to postShould weigh less while allowing for more business customers (and in better configuration and comfort). So a win-win situation especially for ULH flying.
Jump to postThat’s a long route in high fuel prices, and I think a fair few seats will be blocked as aren’t NZs 799 rather dense, I think they blocked seats out for ORD. I do believe a reconfig with new seats is planned in the short term, which is also exciting. Good luck to them! Nice to see a fresh brand new...
Jump to postEZE won’t be back Now LA is out of oneWorld (happened in 2020) and is re-starting AKL, what about NZ slapping its code on their SCL service? There's a lot wrong with this suggestion, Firstly, Airlines don't just slap on it's code. Secondly, LA didn't need to be out of the Star Alliance - CX is evid...
Jump to postI dont think CHC market was big enough even prior to Covid to justify a non-stop. Remember it took EK many years of flying via Australia into AKL to give them the confidence to do it. Combining CHC with another market is still the best way, either with SYD, or as you say somewhere in Asia. They use...
Jump to postThey were planned to return to CHC via SYD, not 100% sure what the latest date for that is. CHC might be interesting going forward as to what they do wi the it, pre covid I thought a 77L non stop from DXB might be looked at, maybe a service through Asia somewhere like KUL/BKK might be considered? I...
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The other issue with JFK is the ground delays (and air holds too). Ordinarily for most flights that wouldn’t be an issue, but when you are operating an ULH flight at max then any delay can have serious implications to your service. JFK has ground delays of 1 hour quite commonly so you’re talking a c...
Jump to post7,700nm - that going to be a block time of what,17 hours westbound, 19 hours eastbound? Thats a looong flight. Within a few nm of AKL-DXB. Other way around… westbound has headwinds. Times should be 15h40m AKL-EWR and 17h40m on the return. Of course on certain days/seasons that will be shorter or lo...
Jump to postIf we're comparing apples with apples, you might as well bring in LHR, EZE which operated when there was a fleet of 30 like you state. HKG has very strict restrictions and not looking likely to change. DPS would be about 2 months away from entering it's seasonal service, given it's geographical loc...
Jump to postBut you then also have to carry some cabin crew as " fire wardens" As no fire detection alarms in the cabin. How many cabin crew? This is the case I am quite sure even if a pax aircraft is carrying belly freight only, they must have 1-2 cabin crew on board. Or QF did when they ran pax 763...
Jump to postBut you then also have to carry some cabin crew as " fire wardens" As no fire detection alarms in the cabin. Do they operate with more than 2 flight crew? If they had a second crew for the flight home they could have them in the cabin. Although having some actual cabin crew may be good fr...
Jump to postI’m sure they know what they’re doing, but surely it would be better to push it into a higher orbit and just leave it up there given the cost and effort to get it up there in the first place.
Jump to postIt looks like 27 Feb for NZers in Oz. 13 March for NZers elsewhere. April for non-citizens with visas (students etc) July for visa waiver countries. October - free for all. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300509477/covid19-nz-border-reopening-to-begin-from-late-february-to-proceed-in-five-st...
Jump to postI am thinking they may ditch the mid cabin lavatory and tighten up the pitch a bit, should be good for at least another 6-12 seats, maybe even 18 Possibly ditch the lav (although 2 for over 200 pax is pushing it)… only really frees up space for 3 seats. The domestic A320 only seat 3 more than the i...
Jump to postWill be one to watch how they choose to configure the additional a321N’s. They did order them pre pandemic, and the way they use them post pandemic could be different. NZ seems pretty happy operating the a321N’s now in there current config on domestic. They could have sent them off into long term s...
Jump to postAren’t the remaining a321N’s on order for the domestic fleet? As replacement of the the remaining OJ*/OAB CEO’s. They had 7x on order for domestic, which were to replace the 4x original domestic a320s along with 3x regional CEO’s that we’re going to stay around in the short term as additional capac...
Jump to postThree factors to consider in terms of a choice between current generation and next generation are:- a) both the US and UK have huge SSBN programmes to undertake alongside the SSN's b) what does the current escalation mean for policy, and thus the demand trend, for SSN's in both the US and UK? c) wh...
Jump to postA few thoughts, I'm not 100% sure on all of them. ⋅ It's not like they've sat open and exposed to the elements for 2 years ⋅ I thought Alice springs was full ⋅ There's always been a need / vision to get quicker access to some 77W if needed at shorter notice so storing ...
Jump to postIt amazes me, how a throw away comment on a semi unrelated point turns into a realistic debate over new routes given we've not even commenced the one we announced 3 years ago yet and still have a closed border lol. Not only that but people are proposing myriad new routes when we still have no idea ...
Jump to postWould they do SLC over DEN? United is a Star member so I thought that DEN would be the more obvious choice. While NZ is in *A, it doesn’t stop them from mingling with non *A friends or where they want to go. For example NZ has partnerships currently with QF, CX, VS… For years there Japan partner wa...
Jump to postSLC? You think that they could do Salt Lake City? It's a hypothetical. Would they do SLC over DEN? United is a Star member so I thought that DEN would be the more obvious choice. Yes DEN is the more likely candidate (UA hub, bigger O&D etc), but SLC certainly does appeal (especially in Winter -...
Jump to postAfter the original announcement that it had ordered eight -10s it is striking that NZ has - chosen to take initial frames under that order as -9s - announced that it is looking at returning to service the owned 77Ws it had earlier said it would retire. Gotta wonder whether the numbers Boeing is pre...
Jump to postAnd when is this magical 787 getting produced? Much ado about nothing IMO...JHEEZ....give me a break!! I believe it’s what ANZ ordered. 2023/4 After the original announcement that it had ordered eight -10s it is striking that NZ has - chosen to take initial frames under that order as -9s - announce...
Jump to postPredictions for NZ aviation in 2022 anyone it is not easy with so much uncertainty. Hopefully this year is better than the last. Well to celebrate the new year, looks like NZ has brought in wearing N95 masks for staff domesticity. Almost all of the staff around WLG today have N95s on, not sure what...
Jump to postNZ will run out of sustainable electricity. If all light vehicles are electric, and each driver covered the same annual km's, only enough capacity to re-charge vehicles every 3rd day. That's using all current sustainable and non-sustainable capacity. And before heavy vehicles, ships, aircraft and h...
Jump to postAnd from where and how will the hydrogen be produced? That's the question we all need to be asking. New Zealand is blessed by having almost all of its electricity produced sustainably, from hydro (mostly), but increasingly also wind and solar. Air New Zealand therefore has the opportunity to be one...
Jump to postThe new Invercargill A320 service starts on the 23rd Dec. Times are the following CHC-IVC 1315 1420 NZ1213 IVC-CHC 1500-1605 NZ1214 40 minutes turn around? ! I've never seen NZ manage that with a 320. Seen 20 minutes with full loads. Reality is though it all depends on what’s happening and passenge...
Jump to postWith QF's order for the A321XLR and A220 this morning, I wonder if we will see some new destinations open up in NZ, especially with the A220. I also wonder if having a large A220 operator nearby may make NZ look more closely at this option. Will be interesting with the first A321XLR arriving around...
Jump to postThe main advantage Airbus had was - Ability to make the A220 part of the order. Any Boeing order could not be exclusive as Boeing doesn't have a 717 replacement aircraft. This means negotiating with 2 manufacturers and a smaller order with each. - Fleet commonality with Jetstar - And the A321XLR wh...
Jump to postIs this an indication VA is considering joining Star* with partnerships with SQ/NH/UA & EY the odd one out? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have only a basic understanding of GDS, PRA and related systems, but given the systems compatibility between SQ/UA/NH etc are probably moreso than tha...
Jump to postAll that is old is new again. Joining *A is back on the cards… As is becoming friends again with NZ at some point now that the dead wood has left VA and NZ has a new boss. Was it ever on the cards, or just people speculating / being hopeful? 99% of stuff on A.net is speculation! But to the point at...
Jump to postExecutive Traveller just reporting that Virgin is ending its partnership with Delta in favour of a new alliance with United Airlines, which will take effect in April 2022 https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-delta-united-airlines-partnership All that is old is new again. Joining...
Jump to postI just made a booking LAX-AKL-LAX this week, and I did it through an agent in NZ. It seemed the best way to get up to date NZ requirements. Once things get more normal I may go back to online booking, but for now I want the extra hand holding. Generally a simple 1 sector return trip is no differenc...
Jump to postRAAF birds? Can’t see the RNZAF rebuilding an Strike wing of classic Hornets, think the Canadians bet you to the best birds out of that lot Who said anything about strike wing or hornets? I was referring to the NH90s. Well the RAAF do not operate the Taipans they are Army assets or ex RAN only RAAF...
Jump to postAir NZ cuts commissions to Travel agents this is part of their recovery plan. QF has already made the same cuts. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/travel-anger-air-new-zealand-cuts-agents-commission-on-some-flights-to-zero/EM4MG4C7FFUP2EEO36F4IZ36W4/ Seems far, not that there is really that many ...
Jump to postA101 wrote:Zkpilot wrote:I wonder if they might pick up the RAAF birds
RAAF birds? Can’t see the RNZAF rebuilding an Strike wing of classic Hornets, think the Canadians bet you to the best birds out of that lot