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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Amazon service at ILN (re)starts as early was the first week of July per the Amazon thread. Atlas starts in August.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019
Replies: 478
Views: 64202

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2019

What's the latest on the start of ILN ops? Last I'd heard it was to happen this month.

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by DeltaRules
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 3553

Re: Flight Numbers

DL, for a time, had 200 series flights which departed from JFK's Terminal 2 and 400 flights leaving Terminal 4, but I think they abandoned that practice. UA's TPAC flights used to be 800s and TATL 900s. US, in their last few years of existence, had TATL in the 700 range. I couldn't help but notice t...

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by DeltaRules
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New VC-25 livery
Replies: 18
Views: 2440

Re: New VC-25 livery

It's Trump Shuttle with a blue belly. Get rid of the blue and throw a T on the tail and it's Trump Shuttle on a 747.

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by DeltaRules
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

https://radio.wosu.org/post/columbus-wants-land-more-direct-flights-starting-new-san-francisco-route No earth-shattering revelations in this article but it is interesting that Nardone points the reporter to Matt McQuade of Columbus 2020, and he describes Europe as the next goal for CMH and specific...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Silver Airways to Suspend Service at DAB
Replies: 27
Views: 3565

Re: Silver Airways to Suspend Service at DAB

As I mentioned in the OAG changes thread... DAB is caught in the middle... The Northern encatchment area (say Palm Coast and north) has been picked by strong growth in JAX (fastest growing airport in North America) which is being fueled in part by ULCCs having entered that airport in a big way in t...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Atlas is bringing a 744 into CMH tonight to arrive at 4:15am: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/5y8204 In case anyone is wondering , just got off the inaugural LCK-CHS , it carried 177 pax , pretty impressive!! Nice! There seems to be endless summer demand for Ohio-Carolinas travel. I’m mor...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 278
Views: 35762

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Not well-known, but CMH was a focus city in the mid-2000s, though more in the operational sense as it was centered around the RP ERJ operation DL assumed from HP. I found a CRAA newsletter about a year ago from late 2004 where the term was used.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 278
Views: 35762

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Hey guys, new poster here, but I saw an article that seems prettty applicable to this discussion, seems like Flightglobal has been reading this thread https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-what-makes-a-focus-city-for-delta-458775/ "ANALYSIS: What makes a focus city for Delta?&quo...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue to drop BUF-LAX?
Replies: 28
Views: 5281

Re: Jetblue to drop BUF-LAX?

It'll only go away until Chuck Schumer starts shaking his fist and it'll return.

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by DeltaRules
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

DAB is apparently doing a renovation: https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirst/posts/2530443593654046?__xts__[0]=68.ARAIh4arf_CrgGyovdOkAXiBdDJsMZhIkh4stkTDWgM3tVem6z0nQmHi0Ygiu-JKB7pbIz3oufHcR4-Rd9wm7s9FbGRblEpxq2Li8qp8HEOYCq3IYN3aSQr0yvS0WrwNi6nbKeaKrasAXdrXjnd9TgcVT1H3MooNvj-vcmoD_wHVGED2C-ZaQmxy...

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by DeltaRules
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ua1585

Useless trivia is that the first flight will be run on one of the ex-China Southern A320s.
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Not sure how accurate FR24 is, but the first week's worth of CMH-SFO (inaugural is tomorrow) is showing everything from a 319 to a 739.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ua1585

Useless trivia is that the first flight will be run on one of the ex-China Southern A320s.

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by DeltaRules
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

When? I should've said "is dropping". It hit the OAG today. When are they dropping it? This is just like them to do this. Pretty sure they pulled the same (or similar) stunt at ECP. DAB makes it official. Service ends July 1st: http://www.flydaytonafirst.com/about-dab/news-releases.stml?p...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MD-88s as of Summer 2019
Replies: 64
Views: 6243

Re: Delta MD-88s as of Summer 2019

There maybe a few cities in the midwest that are all MD-88 (DAY, CLE, CMH, MKE) all come to mind, plus maybe a few Florida cities (DAB, ECP) possibly. I'm going CMH-ATL-DAB and back later this month. CMH-ATL and DAB-ATL are both MD-88s. Can't speak for the other airports, but CMH-ATL is a M88/738/7...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities
Replies: 278
Views: 35762

Re: Delta transitions BOS to Hub status, names SJC, BNA, and AUS as new focus cities

Hopefully IND isn't about to get the PIT treatment from DL. What does that consist of? Losing the Paris flight? Yeah DL unceremoniously cut the PIT-CDG flight recently. After recently up-gauging it as well. It seemed like PIT-CDG went because the airport authority either a) thought they could suppo...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

I think most of the comments regarding AC's lower than average load factor are on point: it's a combination of high yield and blocking off potential competition. Regarding Mexico, it's a tough sell to justify a nonstop to anywhere else but Cancun. It would be great to see a daily E90 to MEX for the...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit announces BNA to BWI, FLL, MSY, LAS, MCO, TPA
Replies: 25
Views: 3305

Re: Spirit announces BNA to BWI, FLL, MSY, LAS, MCO, TPA

Looking at UA flights this Sept. from IAD - BNA, two of the direct flights have been upgraded to main line from RJ's. Can't seem to find where that has ever happened from IAD in the airports history. Nashville is really growing. This happened at CMH and CLE as well. I think the explanation I saw wa...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/2/2019:3M Drops DAB-FLL;AA Adds DCA-AGS/ECP;DL Adds LGB-LAS;ET Suspends Routes?;WN Update
Replies: 56
Views: 8500

Re: OAG Changes 6/2/2019:3M Drops DAB-FLL;AA Adds DCA-AGS/ECP;DL Adds LGB-LAS;ET Suspends Routes?;WN Update

Really? no ECP no JAX no MLB no MIA no APF no RSW no PGD no SRQ no PIE no SFB no GNV These cities had it coming; a loss of that size is not really as impactful as an airline loss at an airport of 4 airlines. That flight is one of ten year-round flights at the airport. Plus DAB just lost B6. IMO FLL...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

evank516 wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
3M dropped DAB-FLL.

That's a lot of effort to sponsor the Tortugas and paint a damn plane only to yank the route after 6 months.


When?


I should've said "is dropping". It hit the OAG today.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/2/2019:3M Drops DAB-FLL;AA Adds DCA-AGS/ECP;DL Adds LGB-LAS;ET Suspends Routes?;WN Update
Replies: 56
Views: 8500

Re: OAG Changes 6/2/2019:3M Drops DAB-FLL;AA Adds DCA-AGS/ECP;DL Adds LGB-LAS;ET Suspends Routes?;WN Update

DAB is on a cold steak lately *3M DAB-FLL JUL 1.0>0.0[0] AUG 1.0>0[0] SEP 1.0>0[0] OCT 1.0>0[0] NOV 1.0>0[0] DEC 1.0>0[0] JAN 1.0>0[0.5] FEB 1.0>0[1.0] MAR 1.0>0[1.0] How poorly was that route doing for them to go through all that effort to brand a plane and sponsor the local baseball team only to ...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

WN's CMH-OAK will continue less-than-daily to at least December per enrilia's thread.

UA spooked them into staying.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

3M dropped DAB-FLL.

That's a lot of effort to sponsor the Tortugas and paint a damn plane only to yank the route after 6 months.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

I think most of the comments regarding AC's lower than average load factor are on point: it's a combination of high yield and blocking off potential competition. Regarding Mexico, it's a tough sell to justify a nonstop to anywhere else but Cancun. It would be great to see a daily E90 to MEX for the...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Largest non-hub AA stations?
Replies: 57
Views: 9272

Re: Largest non-hub AA stations?

BOS is definitely the biggest. MCO, PIT, and RDU are up there too. IND & CMH are also decent sized operations for them. Definitely not the largest, but it is worth noting that AA does serve all of their hub cities, including JFK, from both IND and CMH. AA has a very limited number of passengers...

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by DeltaRules
Fri May 31, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

I think most of the comments regarding AC's lower than average load factor are on point: it's a combination of high yield and blocking off potential competition. Regarding Mexico, it's a tough sell to justify a nonstop to anywhere else but Cancun. It would be great to see a daily E90 to MEX for the...

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by DeltaRules
Wed May 29, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 86
Views: 8186

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

Your quote was “ Clevelsnd is even worse with only Bayer potentially creating some traffic”. Where in NEO is Bayers operation, I honestly didn’t know about it but it’d be a wonderful company to have generating travel out of NEO. Have the other companies I’ve mentioned gone out of business and I mis...

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by DeltaRules
Wed May 29, 2019 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Skyteam DL/AF/KL EU-US New routes?
Replies: 57
Views: 7416

Re: Skyteam DL/AF/KL EU-US New routes?

It was just discussed in another thread, so I'll throw it out here: CMH and DL have been talking for a few years about TATL (both sides have confirmed it). CMH-AMS was rumored (there was even a false alarm rumor of an announcement in 2017) and would be within 757 range.

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by DeltaRules
Tue May 28, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio
Replies: 86
Views: 8186

Re: Lack of Transatlantic Service from Ohio

There's a $15M air service fund awaiting a push through the Ohio legislature which would be distributed among the state's airports (with the exception of CVG, as it belongs to Kentucky). Some of this would presumably be the "keeping up with the Joneses" moment to aid TATL service comparabl...

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by DeltaRules
Sun May 26, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

(And there is always the biggest mystery of all.. Europe.) I thought the biggest mystery of all is when we will finally hit the tipping point where CMH and CVG posters decide during the yearly debate that we need separate threads for each airport. :lol: FWIW I agree with your speculations about upg...

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by DeltaRules
Sun May 26, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

And the April 2019 numbers for CMH & LCK are out and indicate continued steady growth. April '19 707,185 compared to '18 with 669,615. That's good for a 5.6% monthly increase year over year and 7.0% growth year to date compared to 2018. Spirit with nearly 30% growth and United with 16.4% lead t...

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by DeltaRules
Sun May 26, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Delta regret not ordering a similar replacement for the Md-88?
Replies: 43
Views: 5700

Re: Will Delta regret not ordering a similar replacement for the Md-88?

The MD-88s are used on high frequency routes in and out of ATL that allow frequency to be adjusted to meet demand, As an example, There are currently 9-10 MD-88 flights between ATL and IND spaced out about 90-120 minutes apart. Delta can slow frequency down to 120 minutes between flights with A321s...

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by DeltaRules
Sun May 26, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

AA's PHL-MLB goes daily in December per enirlia's thread.

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by DeltaRules
Thu May 23, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

As some may know, United recently publicized an effort to filter more connecting itineraries via their IAD hub rather than EWR; the latter being reserved for more O&D traffic. The CLE thread discovered proof of that strategy with CLE-IAD being upgauged from all-regional to 3x 73G/739 and 1x ER4...

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by DeltaRules
Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lakeland in talks with American for commercial flights
Replies: 73
Views: 7538

Re: Lakeland in talks with American for commercial flights

727LOVER wrote:
Had Skybus lasted, they would've probably served LAL



For all their vacation destination targeting, I was always surprised that they never tried Orlando or Las Vegas.

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by DeltaRules
Tue May 21, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

DAY's Global Ratings outlook has been reversed from negative to stable: http://headlines.flydayton.com/report-revises-airport-outlook-negative-stable/ https://www.ademcetinkaya.com/2019/05/james-m-cox-dayton-international.html http://headlines.flydayton.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/SP-Report-James...

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by DeltaRules
Mon May 20, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 1011
Views: 128663

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

As far as demographic change within the urban cores are concerned, I agree. This is an air service forum. You can’t ignore the MSA as the vast majority of travelers are from outside the urban core, and adding Columbus’s level of MSA growth would not be insignificant for increasing levels of air ser...

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by DeltaRules
Mon May 20, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon to open a air hub in Lakeland Florida
Replies: 32
Views: 4560

Re: Amazon to open a air hub in Lakeland Florida

For clarification, it's essentially moving it's Ops from TPA to LAL, of which TPA already has pretty substantial Amazon Air Ops and can't support the growth (space) wise going forward. And if you're familiar with geography, LAL is literally smack in the middle of Orlando and Tampa metro's and their...

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by DeltaRules
Sat May 18, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Bring Back Seatback IFEs On Domestic Aircraft
Replies: 180
Views: 21966

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Bring Back Seatback IFEs On Domestic Aircraft

I doubt it. Getting rid of IFE just makes sense. As legroom shrinks and seatbacks get thinner, the space of the equipment matters as much as the cost. They probably spend more maintaining IFEs than when they first buy them. Eventually ALL US3 will get decent WIFI and then people will forget what IF...

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by DeltaRules
Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Bring Back Seatback IFEs On Domestic Aircraft
Replies: 180
Views: 21966

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Bring Back Seatback IFEs On Domestic Aircraft

I doubt it. Getting rid of IFE just makes sense. As legroom shrinks and seatbacks get thinner, the space of the equipment matters as much as the cost. They probably spend more maintaining IFEs than when they first buy them. Eventually ALL US3 will get decent WIFI and then people will forget what IF...

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by DeltaRules
Thu May 16, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airport outdoor observation areas
Replies: 66
Views: 3627

Re: Airport outdoor observation areas

AMS has an observation deck complete with its own jet.

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by DeltaRules
Tue May 14, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Interesting illustration of WN's ops at CMH today here: https://twitter.com/columbusairport/status/1128394117753520133 I'm assuming the near 737 could be broken given the fact it's on what I'm guessing is the right parking line of a swing gate? (I can't imagine WN schedules anything for a long enoug...

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by DeltaRules
Mon May 13, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Please forgive me for the intrusion on the college sports debate (always a great thing to have anywhere for any reason), but I do have a question or two for people who normally fly out CMH. 1. If you fly internationally, what airline do you prefer that flies out of CMH? 2. If you fly internationall...

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by DeltaRules
Mon May 13, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Please forgive me for the intrusion on the college sports debate (always a great thing to have anywhere for any reason), but I do have a question or two for people who normally fly out CMH. 1. If you fly internationally, what airline do you prefer that flies out of CMH? 2. If you fly internationall...

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by DeltaRules
Sat May 11, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Interesting reading the Cleveland thread. A couple of people concerned about the $15M the state has allocated for airports to entice flights. Their concern is how the money will be divided up. They think CMH will be get lions share, because the state, in their eyes, always favors Columbus. They don...

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by DeltaRules
Wed May 08, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Here’s an article with a rather odd interview with the new Executive Director at YNG: http://www.wfmj.com/story/40334695/future-of-flying-out-of-the-youngstown-warren-regional-airport “The destination is very, very important,” John Moliterno said, executive director of the Western Reserve Port Auth...

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by DeltaRules
Tue May 07, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

DAY-IAD has had at least one segment upgauged to an E75. Not bad for a route which had Dash-8s on it not all that long ago!

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by DeltaRules
Mon May 06, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019
Replies: 56
Views: 4314

Re: North Central/East Coast Florida Thread - 2019

https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirst/

Looks like they used Gate 5.
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AA's inaugural DAB-LGA was Saturday. Photos and video here: https://www.facebook.com/flydaytonafirst/

Looks like they used Gate 5.

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by DeltaRules
Fri May 03, 2019 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

atbPy wrote:
flyCMH wrote:
Also, starting in August, the first RON departure to ATL is scheduled as an A321.


This must be replacing the 757 that DL occasionally send our way?


I would say it's more a semi-permanent M88 replacement.

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by DeltaRules
Fri May 03, 2019 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

F9 at CMH could take a shot at SAN; they could start an untapped route which probably has some incentive dollars up for grabs and pick a route which isn't some combination of an attempt to (presumably) trash yields and/or a route which could theoretically be a shuttle bus for Blue Jackets and Hurric...

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by DeltaRules
Thu May 02, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2019
Replies: 502
Views: 69337

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2019

Also, starting in August, the first RON departure to ATL is scheduled as an A321. Nice! I know we’ve seen the odd one-off A321 from other carriers (even AS for one random day), but will this be the first regularly scheduled A321 service in recent memory at CMH? I wondered what would happen once the...

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