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by parapente
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-bfr-rocket-spaceship-more-real-than-ever-4k-renders/ More high def' renders and additional comments (where have the grid fins gone). Sadly I feel there has been a big 'back to the drawing board' moment and that's the second time.Its expensive. The reason (imho) they ...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Stratolaunch‘s Carrier Aircraft Production
Replies: 179
Views: 36571

Re: Stratolaunch‘s Carrier Aircraft Production

Such a shame really. The fundamental idea of raising a rocket above most of the thick ,sticky,draggy atmosphere using the lifting properties of that very atmosphere is of course a neat idea (although not new).It ( in effect) makes an infinitely reusable first stage . What is (was) new was to quadrup...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:32 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Space debris capture concept test works!
Replies: 1
Views: 176

Re: Space debris capture concept test works!

As stated it's a good start.It isn't a question of If but when as it has to happen.
I suppose most of this junk will fall back and burn up sometime of its own accord but don't know the projected time span ( obviously all different) of the majority.

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by parapente
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

I must go back and re look! I did notice later one of the illustrations refers to the ring of 'black boxes - it now appears' around the engine cluster.As additional cargo external holds.All a bit odd so maybe they will add more motors -who knows. Another illustration ( orbiting the moon) gives you s...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Stratolaunch‘s Carrier Aircraft Production
Replies: 179
Views: 36571

Re: Stratolaunch‘s Carrier Aircraft Production

The Pegasus is old news and not commercial.In any event it's better off being launched from its existing Tristar aircraft.Think even Zbranson is going to launch it or something similar from an old Virgin 747. The rest is made up stuff.Paper rockets.He really cocked up on this part of the mission.Ini...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should AB launch A310-300 based on A330NEO
Replies: 45
Views: 6788

Re: Should AB launch A310-300 based on A330NEO

As Erebus has implied above Airbus have already made their decision regarding a response.Indeed that have already responded.They have presented their response to the relevant customers (with NDA's of course).Of course they will have looked at all possibilities including an 8ab twin.However... For be...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

Are there any further (technical) presentations scheduled? Clearly much has changed but many questions were left unanswered.The journalists (imho) did a very poor job simply asking about the money. When the illustrations came out the more knowledgeable people (certainly not me) noticed that the engi...

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by parapente
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2018/aug/28/the-case-against-mars-colonisation Recent article on threadstarter headline.Thought people might find interesting. Personally still think we should go and on the present (Musk) timetable -however we will find out how much the timetable has slipped...

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by parapente
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:22 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Could a space ship escape Titan?
Replies: 6
Views: 492

Re: Could a space ship escape Titan?

Yep, it's deff' one for the robots (nuclear powered like the latest Mars one).As above,have a mother ship in orbit above to relay signals back.A rover certainly,but why not a mini sub as well since you are going all that way! Perhaps they should develop an SLS mission?That rocket would be perfect to...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

Really?
Is that what you see? It's not what I see.Look at the angles of the tail vs the 2 'wings'.But happy to be 100% wrong.Would make life simpler.
What about the engines and odd 'things' that surround them (black).?

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by parapente
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

Manoeuvring (above).I agree.Of course yes having wider three point landing legs will give greater stability on landing -particularly on unprepared lunar or Martian surfaces -so that's a plus right there.But that is a 'tail' not a (simple) fin.So it clearly has a use for manoeuvres-but of course we f...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-private-passenger-bfr-moon-mission/ Talking of which! Conveniently Elon ( must have been reading this-not) has just made a major release with more to follow shortly. So the billionaire round the moon chappie is now going to ride on the BFR.Loads more space ( pun inte...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR
Replies: 470
Views: 69284

Re: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR

Thanks tealnz I had not seen that thread.As you say it answers what they are proposing/doing very well.A very elegant solution imo.

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by parapente
Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR
Replies: 470
Views: 69284

Re: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR

It's all speculation of course but Airbus have said (it appears) that the additional fuel would be carried in th an expanded central (box?) section. They did about 9 months ago release a part completed carbon central section.They made it clear at the time that this works objective was a cost saving ...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:56 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

I don't wish to sound perverse but. The absolutly phenomenal success of the robots we have built is exactly why we shouldn't be sending delicate Earthlings. Pluto,Saturn (plus moon lander!!!) Jupiter,asteroid landing,Comet landings,Venus landers And of course the phenomenal Mars exploration machines...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

I would be tight up there too ----if it was that price.In fact so would millions of others I am sure. The fact (I should check) is that R Brandon is charginf $200,000-250,000 per person.For that you get 5-10 mins on the edge of space. Sorry I. Am not a taker for that not good value for money imho.Bu...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

The sun is only half way through it's complete cycle so sorry no change there!But even if it were - in a few 100 thousand years.No rush I would suggest! They have worked out that major (life changing) impact come along approx every 200 million years.Last one 60 odd million years.Now of course it's o...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1620
Views: 155285

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-falcon-9-block-5-boosters-great-condition-competitor-anxiety/ Is there nothing a '9 block5' can't do?! It has just lifted the Worlds second (by a few pounds) sat into orbit (circa 6 tons?) which went on to stationary orbit.Once again the main booster landed perfectly...

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by parapente
Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

Sorry don't buy the 'leave or we perish' argument.There are no relevant facts to back it up.Indeed just the opposite.We have a very stable star with a very stable set of planets and moons.Happily going round and round for literally billions of years.And there is powerful matts to state that this wil...

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by parapente
Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX10, updates, orders, developments.
Replies: 100
Views: 13323

Re: Boeing 737-10, updates, orders, developments.

I imagine a key target for the MAX10 is the replacement market for regional US 757's no?

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by parapente
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:43 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

https://www.space.com/41763-nasa-lunar- ... asics.html

Interesting piece on proposed lunar orbit space station
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https://www.space.com/41763-nasa-lunar- ... asics.html

Interesting piece on proposed lunar orbit space station

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by parapente
Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Boeing knows all about single aisle economics.Its stated brief for the 7ab twin aisle concept is 'NB's economics with WB comfort'.Either this carbon ovoid fuse' can do this or it can't.If it is the latter it won't get built as it will have failed the fundamental brief. One gets the impression (that'...

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by parapente
Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR
Replies: 470
Views: 69284

Re: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR

Airbus have an embarrassment of options when it comes to the A321NEO it appears. The standard aircaft with the new fuse' layout offers up to a 240 pax machine. It can be supplemented with one,to or three additional fuel tanks,offering a wide range of ranges up to 4knm.Indeed (re flight tests/previou...

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by parapente
Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR
Replies: 470
Views: 69284

Re: Reuters: Airbus is studying A321XLR with extended range over LR

Airbus have an embarrassment of options when it comes to the A321NEO it appears. The standard aircaft with the new fuse' layout offers up to a 240 pax machine. It can be supplemented with one,to or three additional fuel tanks,offering a wide range of ranges up to 4knm.Indeed (re flight tests/previou...

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by parapente
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019
Replies: 264
Views: 37003

Re: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019

Cpd Sorry he is right.Long distance point to point flights are now a proven commercial reality.He is NOT saying or even implying it's for everyone.Its simply a new -and more expensive- alternative to the one stopper. If you had included the word 'some' before people then I doubt you would have got a...

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by parapente
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:23 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets
Replies: 247
Views: 25893

Re: Sorry Elon, You're Not Going to Colonize Planets

I think all of us should forget he whole mad idea of 'colonising' Mars and even madder terraforming it.This is school boy comics and Hollywood polystyrene film sets. But that doesn't make the BFR system a bad idea,just the reverse.Its the perfect veichle for man to make the next big leaps in space (...

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by parapente
Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26627

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

I guess it's a matter of forecasting passenger demand for these secondary US routes.This is as true for Europe -for which the 7810's were primarily ordered I assume, or forecasting for the candidate list of secondary US destinations (which seem reasonable assumptions to me). One can only assume ther...

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by parapente
Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019
Replies: 264
Views: 37003

Re: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019

Does anyone have a view on how these developments may affect any New Zealand decisions? Clearly both aircraft could fly from Auckland to New York considering what has been said by Qantas.However that's not (quite) true of Auckland-London -but not far off. I agree above that's it's about time people ...

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by parapente
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

I guess if you were a British Airways you might wonder what all the fuss was about.
They 'had' (Nov18') large fleets of both 757's and 767's.They have quietly got on with replacing them by simply ordering plenty of the two obvious aircaft.
The A321 -(NEO) and the B788.No bother,no fuss!

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by parapente
Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26627

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

Re 350 TC comments above.He makes it sound as if he wished he had bought the 'more versatile' 350.Certainly this discussion (split order) adds weight to this.If the US was your primary expansion goal then surely the 350 would have been the better option. However-you never know what's involved in the...

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by parapente
Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

No NB from Boeing.Re above,that's clearly one decision Boeing has made -it will be a WB and all the strong rumours point to an ovoid X7 twin aisle.

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by parapente
Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26627

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

Does anyone know where all the additional Dubai slots will come from?I thought the place was full.All this under discussion is way before any hypothetical move to the new (1 runway at present) International airport.

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by parapente
Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

VV Is there a market for bigger medium haul aircraft than narrowbody in ten years time from now? That's the billion dollar question that everybody's stuck on!If they knew that the decision (either way) would be easy. One can argue about short term replacements with some knowledge.The 757 replacement...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Route and flight differences.Very true.But the airline that was conducting this study will no doubt be factoring this and other variables.It was more the principal of what they were looking to do with aircaft at either end of the MOM 'gap'.Then fine tuning their overall ordered package accordingly. ...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Route and flight differences.Very true.But the airline that was conducting this study will no doubt be factoring this and other variables.It was more the principal of what they were looking to do with aircaft at either end of the MOM 'gap'.Then fine tuning their overall ordered package accordingly. ...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

A321NEO/LR lacks the capacity. The article I linked above throws a little light on this I think. In that particular case it is about evaluating existing and projected routes and creating a mix (in this case between 330's and 321/LR' but it could just as easily involve Boeing product).If demand is hi...

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by parapente
Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airasia-x-evaluating-a321neos-and-lrs-451745/ In terms of trying to understand the 'middle of the market' and how competing aircaft relate to each other I thought this study might be of interest.Its in its early days and only a few numbers have emerged so f...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

In terms of engineering excellence yes IMHO there is still no reason to change the view 'if anyone can Boeing can'.Yes this was/is true of the 777 programs.But equally true of the 787 program in terms of engineering excellence. They have set themselves the very toughest of briefs (some might say imp...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019
Replies: 264
Views: 37003

Re: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019

Well Qantas appear to have said that both aircaft meet their primary criteria (which is 300 pax).However from 'downstairs lounge' pictures from Airbus perhaps we can assume that any shortfall vis a vis the 778 will be in the cargo capacity arena.Probably not a deal breaker- but we shall see.Since th...

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by parapente
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines reveals configuration on 2 class A359, ADL to be first route
Replies: 47
Views: 8073

Re: Singapore Airlines reveals configuration on 2 class A359, ADL to be first route

Soooo up to 8 hours flying there is no demand for premium economy,but above that there is? Assume that must mean 8 hours during the day so that any sleeping benefits premium class gives are not wanted/needed?

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by parapente
Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019
Replies: 264
Views: 37003

Re: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019

2022 eh.Well that's big news ( well I think so).Clearly Joyce is 110% certain that both can do it.It is ,as others have noted,the fastest possible entry date for both the 778'x' and A351ulr. 3 years does not sound like a long time to me to sort out all the different aspects required for such a ventu...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Hence the 'Jon' argument that the 797 won't be designed to do 'Blue sky' things.It will be 'safe'.But no doubt damned good at what it does.Oh and therefore on cost.

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by parapente
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

A win win scenario? Boeing's MOM forecast is for a min of 4,000 frames.The industry pessimists have suggested a lower minimum of 2,000 frames.Right now (if launched) there would be no meaningful competitio to this all new optimised design. It would suggest that -as long as costs stayed on budget -th...

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by parapente
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Yes Boeing has always been cautious-and hasn't it served them and their shareholders well!That trait is certainly one thing that (I hope) will never change.If they ever needed reminding the 787 project with so much innovation in one project is something they won't forget in a hurry. However they too...

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by parapente
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The end of the line for the 737 design now proven?
Replies: 70
Views: 14400

Re: The end of the line for the 737 design now proven?

In a sense the answer(s) probably lie in future forecasting. The existing NB market has grown exponentially.Not long ago the standard model for many of the most successful operators was the 737-7 and the A319. Not only has that moved very quickly to the 320/737-8 due to increasing demand it has cont...

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by parapente
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

Re Revelation and LH. Quite true but I was amazed how quickly Airbus publicly responded to this 'shortcoming' with the XLR version.They have naturally kept their cards quite close to their chest on exactly how they can achieve this extra 500 or so knm but achieve it ( on paper ) they clearly have.It...

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by parapente
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Confirms 767 Retirement Date
Replies: 83
Views: 15689

Re: American Airlines Confirms 767 Retirement Date

It's threads like this that make one wonder if the MOM train has already left the station.(Sitting on a 788).Certainly in TATL guise in this case.

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by parapente
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The end of the line for the 737 design now proven?
Replies: 70
Views: 14400

Re: The end of the line for the 737 design now proven?

Re threadstarter.Yes I do believe that the'10' does indicate it's the last major development (and I consider the heavily revised MLG major).Even then it cannot match either capacity or the range of the one competitor the A321NEO/LR/XLR.However it's big enough and has enough range or cover the critic...

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by parapente
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)
Replies: 327
Views: 29315

Re: The Muddle of the Market aircraft (No, this isn’t a typo)

The above is the key to all of this 'MOM stuff'.The gap is obviously there,Boeing and major customers would like it to happen.The key is closing the commercial case and that in this case means costs.Gains via Automation is the obvious paper solution.Whether it turn out that way (as above) is another...

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