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by timz
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK Airport in the 1960's and 1970's
Replies: 35
Views: 4567

Re: JFK Airport in the 1960's and 1970's

Eventually PA and TW international arrivals started using their own terminals -- dunno when. Late 1960s?

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by timz
Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of UA at JFK
Replies: 32
Views: 3512

Re: History of UA at JFK

BoeingGuy wrote:
Did UA fly BWI-HNL

...someone said that UA also did DTW-HNL


The 4/70 timetable says BAL-HNL and DTW-HNL were both to start 1 June. In 7/70 BAL was daily, DTW 4/week. DTW lasted for maybe a year, BAL a bit longer.

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by timz
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of UA at JFK
Replies: 32
Views: 3512

Re: History of UA at JFK

intotheair wrote:
I just was not aware that UA did fly DEN-JFK at one time

Started around 1954 when the DC-7 took over, replacing the DC-6 nonstop from LGA.

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by timz
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles
Replies: 50
Views: 7824

Re: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles

Aesma wrote:
If no woman had flown this route before...

Brooke Knapp did circumpolar in a GIII in... 1983? Not the same route, of course, and more stops.

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Iemand91 wrote:
Its recorded flight time was 46 hours, 39 minutes, 38 seconds.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/07 ... 562853645/


Flight time was 46-39-38? Or does that time include the fuel stops?

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by timz
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 23053

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

In 1975-77 the ITO-ORD nonstop was Friday only, then in 1978 UA said it would be daily eff 9 June -- still eastward only. No nonstop in the 10/78 timetable.

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by timz
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?
Replies: 12
Views: 1937

Re: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?

Checked 1982 and 1984 OAGs -- DFW-SJU was 72S.

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by timz
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?
Replies: 12
Views: 1937

Re: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?

http://www.departedflights.com/AADFWhub.html

I'll check -- probably a 727?
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It seems AA started DFW-SJU in 1982

http://www.departedflights.com/AADFWhub.html

I'll check -- probably a 727?

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by timz
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What helicopter is this?
Replies: 4
Views: 1507

What helicopter is this?

Says Feb 1982 -- might be true for all I know. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23149084203/sizes/l/ Same date here -- same vehicle? https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23775885175/sizes/l/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23693458311/sizes/l/ (Now that I continue thru his...

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by timz
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?
Replies: 39
Views: 3642

Re: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?

Bradin wrote:
isn't [LAX] 25L and 25R more than 1200' apart?

Google maps measurement is good for that -- they're now 800 feet. They were about 745 feet until they shifted one of them to get room for the taxiway between.

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by timz
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air
Replies: 21
Views: 3360

Re: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air

flyPIT wrote:
even though it was a scheduled ATA route

As I recall, the Pleas Haw Hol flights weren't scheduled enough to be in the OAG.

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by timz
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 23053

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

Q wrote:
I can't image that United 747-200 flew Chicago to Hilo daily non stop!

Doubt anyone ever flew ORD-ITO nonstop daily. (UA just had 747-100s then.)

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by timz
Wed May 29, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?
Replies: 39
Views: 3642

Re: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?

Busiest by passenger count? O&D passengers only -- connecting passengers don't count? Or what?

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by timz
Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LaGaudia's visual expressway approach
Replies: 12
Views: 2172

Re: LaGuardia's visual expressway approach

timz wrote:
(Dunno if the prohibition was removed as soon as rwy 4 was extended to 7000 ft.)

To clarify: we know the prohibition on jets landing runway 4 was removed -- dunno if it was removed circa 1966, or later.

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by timz
Sun May 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LaGaudia's visual expressway approach
Replies: 12
Views: 2172

Re: LaGuardia's visual expressway approach

As I recall, when La Guardia first got jets they weren't allowed to land runway 4 -- so maybe the 31 Visual dates from then.

(Dunno if the prohibition was removed as soon as rwy 4 was extended to 7000 ft.)

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by timz
Tue May 07, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ATC Radio frequencies
Replies: 2
Views: 1303

Re: ATC Radio frequencies

If you can't get the info elsewhere, you can always try When you're listening to a low-altitude plane, keep listening as it climbs, to hear the frequencies it changes to. You can hope to get the hi-alt freq for 100 miles west/east of you, then if you listen to that maybe you'll hear aircraft being h...

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by timz
Sat May 04, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 727s at Islip
Replies: 3
Views: 1280

Re: United 727s at Islip

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=605

They don't have the 1987 issue -- no UA at ISP in 1988.
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Mostly 737s and 727-100s in 1986

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up;seq=605

They don't have the 1987 issue -- no UA at ISP in 1988.

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by timz
Thu May 02, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Was Delta Air Lines The Largest Airline At LAX
Replies: 6
Views: 728

Re: Was Delta Air Lines The Largest Airline At LAX

Airport Activity Statistics for 1988 shows 31458 DL sched-svc departures from LAX, 26960 UA, 24876 AA.

And 27339 USAir and 8755 PSA, so if you combine those two...

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by timz
Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FIN12 Odd SFO Departure Over San Bruno Mountain
Replies: 26
Views: 5189

Re: FIN12 Odd SFO Departure Over San Bruno Mountain

phatfarmlines wrote:
How long have jets been doing the right-hand "Candlestick Climb" from 28L/R?

Who knows how many decades -- three at least, probably four? Five miles visibility required.

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by timz
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Panagra's 2-letter code?
Replies: 19
Views: 2001

Re: Panagra's 2-letter code?

departedflights wrote:
some people are disputing the accuracy of "PY."

Offhand guess: you won't find any OAG that calls Panagra PY -- just PG.

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by timz
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FIN12 Odd SFO Departure Over San Bruno Mountain
Replies: 26
Views: 5189

Re: FIN12 Odd SFO Departure Over San Bruno Mountain

That’s called the TRUKN departure. The TRUKN departure isn't intended to go over San Bruno Mountain. It says right turn to TRUKN (i.e. Oakland airport) on reaching 520 ft altitude -- guess for a heavy that would be around the west end of the runway. DEDHD is a few miles west of Vacaville, so that i...

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by timz
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta Airlines January 24, 2000
Replies: 6
Views: 1207

Re: Delta Airlines January 24, 2000

Timetable for 2 Apr 2000 shows eight nonstops PHX to ATL, all 757 except the 1615 and 0030 departures were 72S. I'll see if I have a closer date.

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by timz
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1955 LAX pic: underground walkway?
Replies: 9
Views: 2209

Re: 1955 LAX pic: underground walkway?

Yeah, looking at the east end (where the high-numbered gates would be) there could be a short gap between the "satellite" and the terminal -- but what for? Too small for planes to taxi over it, and would they build an undergound walkway just to make things easier for baggage wagons? Can't ...

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by timz
Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1955 LAX pic: underground walkway?
Replies: 9
Views: 2209

1955 LAX pic: underground walkway?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... 927433277/

Lots more interesting pics in the guy's collection.
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Is this an under-the-tarmac walkway? To where?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] ... 927433277/

Lots more interesting pics in the guy's collection.

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by timz
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAS - second East-West Runway - when did it open?
Replies: 8
Views: 1378

Re: LAS - second East-West Runway - when did it open?

historicaerials.com shows it under construction in 1990 and open in 1991.

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by timz
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am flight logs in 1977
Replies: 14
Views: 2138

Re: Pan Am flight logs in 1977

If you don't have the flight numbers yet 31 Oct 1976 https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/asm0341/id/35402/rec/214 24 April 1977 https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/asm0341/id/31670/rec/217 12 Sept 1977 https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/comp...

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by timz
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA Starts HNL-BOS Today. Longest Scheduled Domestic Flight in US HIstory
Replies: 92
Views: 15611

Re: HA Starts HNL-BOS Today. Longest Scheduled Domestic Flight in US HIstory

DenverTed wrote:
I don't think [UA] ever flew Detroit or Boston nonstop

UA did DTW-HNL -- 1970 maybe.

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by timz
Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9
Replies: 33
Views: 5454

Re: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9

Yeah, the now-orange bldg beyond "EASTERN" on the DC9 is at 25.8086N 80.33616W. (What looks like one bldg in the pic is that bldg with another bldg beyond its right end.)

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by timz
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9
Replies: 33
Views: 5454

Re: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9

Historicaerials.com has a 1986 aerial of Miami, and the taxiways in the pic match up pretty well with the taxiways north of Runway 12. But the distant buildings in the pic --- can't find them on current aerials. (How about the bldg at 25.807N 80.331W that's on the 1980s aerials and is gone now?) If ...

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by timz
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: No more LAX loop on departures
Replies: 24
Views: 6588

Re: No more LAX loop on departures

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1903/00237SEALBEACH.PDF
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747Whale wrote:
the SEAL BEACH 8 ... [is] flown for both eastbound and westbound departures

Westbound from LAX? Off of runways 6/7, you mean?

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1903/00237SEALBEACH.PDF

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by timz
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help determining date of Conquest Airlines map
Replies: 2
Views: 566

Re: Help determining date of Conquest Airlines map

The wikipedia article says Monterrey started 1991; apparently the map is 1991-93. I'll check a couple OAGs.

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by timz
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Former JFK international terminal and tower
Replies: 27
Views: 4962

Re: Former JFK international terminal and tower

Some diagrams https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/12535962994/sizes/h/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/12535824724/sizes/k/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15530504470/sizes/h/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15529468179/sizes/h/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/...

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by timz
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Detroit-Shanghai non-stop start date/history
Replies: 4
Views: 690

Re: Northwest Detroit-Shanghai non-stop start date/history

The NW timetable for 1 May 1999 and the July 1999 OAG show an eastward one-stop via NRT.

No eastward direct flights in NW timetables for 8 Sept 1999, 31 Jan 2000 or 1 May 2000.

August 2000 OAG shows the nonstop.

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by timz
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Seen that collection of Pan Am timetables?
Replies: 6
Views: 1625

Seen that collection of Pan Am timetables?

I finally noticed the Pan Am timetables at https://merrick.library.miami.edu/specialCollections/asm0341/ Hundreds of them, in semi-random order. I listed most of the 1945-1990 system timetables in date order -- if you want the lists give me your e-mail and I'll send them to you. (I might have made a...

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by timz
Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?
Replies: 57
Views: 11564

Re: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?

DL747400 wrote:
Do (did?) both LGA and JFK use this flightpath?

JFK approaches are never this low over Manhattan, unless they're straight in to runway 13. I'm guessing they never were-- what would be the point of being down there with the LGA approaches?

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by timz
Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?
Replies: 57
Views: 11564

Re: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?

Airport Activity Statistics shows 2283 Empire F28 departures from LGA in 1984, and 410 Piedmont -- no Pilgrim. Probably all Piedmont's F28 arrivals were from the south or west, so they wouldn't be southbound down the Hudson.

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by timz
Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?
Replies: 57
Views: 11564

Re: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?

World Financial Center is under construction, so the 1984 date might be right.

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by timz
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?
Replies: 57
Views: 11564

Re: Can anyone identify the aircraft type shown in this photo?

It's going to LGA, starting to bank left for runway 4 or 31. Do LGA arrivals from the northeast still do this? Did Piedmont have any flights to LGA from the NE?

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by timz
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Question on ANA's departure from SJC
Replies: 12
Views: 4333

Re: Question on ANA's departure from SJC

I punched the filed route into ForeFlight, and it shows direct SFO at 3,500 Must be just for clerical reasons, or something. They'd never actually do that, of course. They climb to 5000 and turn WNW to pass under the SFO arrival stream from the south. Like he said, that's what AA MD11s to Tokyo did...

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by timz
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines and the Boeing 767-200
Replies: 31
Views: 6027

Re: American Airlines and the Boeing 767-200

Mortyman wrote:
March 1988 between Orlando and Dallas and Dallas and Mexico city.

3/88 OAG says all MD80 MCO-DFW except the 0828 departure was a 767. DFW-MEX was all 72S.

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by timz
Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: World's Busiest Airports 1990
Replies: 9
Views: 3900

Re: World's Busiest Airports 1990

Busiest airport in the US 1949 to 1958 was always Chicago Midway -- by flight count, anyway, and probably by passenger count. No doubt it was #1 in the world. O'Hare replaced it and was the world #1 thru the 1960s and 1970s, by flight count at least. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.390150...

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by timz
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC's Mainline 320s - Caribbean OPS. No ETOPS?
Replies: 7
Views: 1742

Re: AC's Mainline 320s - Caribbean OPS. No ETOPS?

B748eye wrote:
AC hugs the USA coast towards Miami and a hard easterly turn.

As his map shows, lack of ETOPS wouldn't lengthen the route much. Do AC aircraft lack rafts, or some such?

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by timz
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How far away are we from direct routings
Replies: 33
Views: 5268

Re: How far away are we from direct routings

how far away are we from "Cleared takeoff, route direct to destination" If flights are converging on JFK from all over the US, they can't all converge on JFK -- they have to converge on a point west of JFK so approach control can sequence them. Years ago I heard a night flight climbing ou...

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by timz
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: An unfair comparison II - DC-7 vs. CV-880 vs. A220-100
Replies: 24
Views: 4071

Re: An unfair comparison II - DC-7 vs. CV-880 vs. A220-100

DC-7C economical cruise would be more like 260-270 knots. Typical seat count ... maybe 70-75 on international flights.

Econ cruise for a CV880 is less than 500 knots, of course, and don't plan to fly 3300 nm with it.

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by timz
Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ETOPS/safety rating for flights between AU/NZ and Chile/Argentina
Replies: 29
Views: 3546

Re: ETOPS/safety rating for flights between AU/NZ and Chile/Argentina

Turns out SYD to JNB is 5963 nm direct, or 6247 nm if you stay within 1600 nm of Perth and Mauritius.

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by timz
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flight details from 1974
Replies: 18
Views: 1919

Re: Flight details from 1974

CVL is Caravelle.

ABC mean ABC Guide, the monthly book of airline schedules, on paper. I happen to have one for April 1974.

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by timz
Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:39 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ETOPS/safety rating for flights between AU/NZ and Chile/Argentina
Replies: 29
Views: 3546

Re: ETOPS/safety rating for flights between AU/NZ and Chile/Argentina

SYD/MEL to JNB/CPT would need a slight detour to stay within 240 minutes -- maybe Cocos would eliminate that.

(No, looks like Cocos doesn't help much.)

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by timz
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flight details from 1974
Replies: 18
Views: 1919

Re: Flight details from 1974

4/74 ABC says

TG602 DC8
VN784 707
SQ613 737
SQ208 737
PA812 707

TN497 D9S
TN422 D9S
QF850 707
TE556 D10
QF586 707

PA806 PPT-Pago Pago-HNL 707 (no PA 824 shown)
WA560 B3F
WA637 D10
VA781 DC8
PA217 707

SR205 DC8
AZ1553 D8S
LN121 CVL
SR241 DC9

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by timz
Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5+ Hour delays into SFO
Replies: 95
Views: 17479

Re: 5+ Hour delays into SFO

    As you'd expect, 19R departures turn left same as 19L departures. If SFO is sending most departures off runways 19, some will be off 19R -- it's not rare, given that they're departing the 19s.

    I have a slide of a Tower Air 747 departing 19R to JFK.

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