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by timz
Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:01 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: JFK 22R/L Approach Question
Replies: 25
Views: 5615

Re: JFK 22R/L Approach Question

paulygoogs wrote:
can't ATC create a slot/corridor for north and east arrivals to intercept Rosly drect from the north at 2000 ft ... ?

Try it. What route would arrivals from the west follow, at what altitudes? Let's see if you can find a route that doesn't foul up other airports.

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by timz
Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:32 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Triple-Simultaneous Landings
Replies: 48
Views: 8535

Re: Triple-Simultaneous Landings

when triple (or even side by side) parallel landings are in progress, are the aircraft required to literally be abeam of each other... When aircraft are landing parallel on the 28s at SFO, the tower would naturally like them to be abeam each other, allowing more time for departures off runways 1. B...

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by timz
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

how many hours did it take to fly from LAX/SFO to HNL on these aircraft? Schedule time SF to HNL: 1937: 20 hrs 8/46 12-1/2 hrs on a weekly PA DC-4 5/47 9 hr 10 min on UA DC-6 8/55 9 hr 15 min on PA B377, UA coach DC-6 or QF 1049C/E; 8 hr 00 min on UA DC-7. 8/58 9 hr 10 min on UA coach DC-6B, 8 hr 2...

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by timz
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

Gangurru wrote:
It seems that United was the 4th airline...

Third, looks like. Davies says Philippine started in Oct 1947. In the 5/47 OAG UA has flights and Philippine doesn't.

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by timz
Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

Think it was January 1950 that United started flying B377s SFO-HNL. Pan Am a bit earlier -- don't think NW ever flew them to Hawaii.

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by timz
Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

From the 1971 air atlas in the seat pockets, "The Hawaiian Islands" "non-stop routes to Hawaii from Boston, New York, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Kansas City, LA, San Fran, San Diego." Nonstop to Hawaii from Buffalo! Does it really ...

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by timz
Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:31 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: A few old OAGs online
Replies: 3
Views: 3741

A few old OAGs online

https://timetableworld.com/timetables.php

(If that doesn't take you directly, click on "Air (Worldwide)".)
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Only a few, so far, but hoping for more someday.

https://timetableworld.com/timetables.php

(If that doesn't take you directly, click on "Air (Worldwide)".)

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by timz
Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

UA used the 377s only on their Hawai'i routes from LAX and SFO Usually. In 1951 American Aviation reported that on 16 October UA was going to start a B377 LAX-SFO-SEA, with a $5 extra fare LAX-SFO if you were in the stateroom. Dunno how long that lasted -- not long, probably -- but the 9/54 OAG sho...

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by timz
Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii
Replies: 104
Views: 16531

Re: United Celebrates 75 Years to Hawaii

DenverTed wrote:
I believe UA flew ORD-ITO nonstop.

I'm guessing not. Anyone find it in a timetable?

UA did indeed fly DTW-HNL nonstop for ... a year or two? Started 1970 I think.

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by timz
Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did Mexicana fly a Britannia?
Replies: 0
Views: 1424

Did Mexicana fly a Britannia?

We know AeroMexico flew a Britannia Mexico to New York for a year or two, but I was surprised to see in the Feb 1959 OAG that Mexicana claimed to fly a "Brit. 302". A weekly flight -- left Mexico City Saturday afternoon, flew to ACA-LAX-ACA and back to Mexico City on Sunday morning. No oth...

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by timz
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airline airports at Panama in 1962?
Replies: 2
Views: 698

Airline airports at Panama in 1962?

AW&ST for 7 Oct 1963 has a table showing passengers enplaned by US-flag airlines at Latin American cities during the year 1962. It says Pan Am enplaned 84135 pax at "Panama City"; no other US airlines there. It says Braniff enplaned 12623 and Panagra enplaned 41128 at "Balboa&quo...

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by timz
Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 13286

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

TW870 wrote:
United bought the two very high gross weight 747-200Bs with the -7R4G2 engines for SEA-HKG

Didn't UA get the two 747-222Bs for JFK-NRT?

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by timz
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO landing Rwy 01R today
Replies: 59
Views: 13113

Re: SFO landing Rwy 01R today

Has any aircraft landed on runways 10 in the last couple of years?

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by timz
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO landing Rwy 01R today
Replies: 59
Views: 13113

Re: SFO landing Rwy 01R today

adipasqu wrote:
The 10's are more common than you think.

Plenty of winter takeoffs from runways 10, of course, but landings on runways 10 are rarer than landings on runways 1.

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by timz
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Airlines early 90's SYD service
Replies: 9
Views: 2676

Re: Northwest Airlines early 90's SYD service

The June 1991 NW timetable says SYD would start 1 July. Timetable for 1 Aug just shows flight 76 SYD to HNL 4/week -- nothing beyond. TT for 5 Sept shows 4/week SYD- HNL-LAX. 15 Dec 1991 shows flight 86 weekly to HNL-LAX, 74 3/week to LAX, 70 3/week to OSA-JFK. Ditto thru July 1992; in Aug 1992 add ...

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by timz
Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Three Interesting Eastern Air Lines History Facts
Replies: 48
Views: 10112

Re: Three Interesting Eastern Air Lines History Facts

STT757 wrote:
The only domestic routes [EA DC-10s] flew was MIA-LAX.


Think they were known to fly MIA-JFK. As I recall Eastern, MIA-JFK, is the answer to the question

What airline used airliners of four makers on one airport pair, at the same time?

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by timz
Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airliner navigation immediately before GPS
Replies: 47
Views: 6224

Re: Airliner navigation immediately before GPS

The Western 720B flights to Hawaii were all (?) day flights -- did the navigators bother sighting the sun thru the sextant, and drawing one position line on a chart?

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by timz
Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA/TW Mid-Air Collision Brooklyn NY - Anniversary
Replies: 26
Views: 6291

Re: UA/TW Mid-Air Collision Brooklyn NY - Anniversary

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
I believe the DC-8 overran a holding fix due to inop DME.

As I recall, Preston wasn't a DME fix -- just an intersection of two radials. Didn't the DC8 just have one working VOR receiver?

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by timz
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO
Replies: 11
Views: 4490

Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

The usual Bay Tour is climb and maintain 3000, remain over the water, depart Golden Gate Bridge heading 230 or some such. Never seen one go east over the Golden Gate until today.

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by timz
Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970
Replies: 35
Views: 7208

Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

The UK carrier on the route was originally British Eagle ... "The route" between Miami and London via Bermuda, or some such. It seems BOAC and National were both approved to fly MIA-LHR nonstop in Summer 1969, and both were to start it in January 1970; maybe BOAC did, but National was lat...

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by timz
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970
Replies: 35
Views: 7208

Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Wasn't National awarded the route before BOAC started it? For some reason National didn't start it until June? July? 1970, but didn't it get the authority months earlier?

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by timz
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SFO Weather Delays
Replies: 12
Views: 2934

Re: SFO Weather Delays

This change now allows aircraft to be separated by 1 mile between the leading aircraft for Runway 28L and the trailing aircraft for Runway 28R all the way down to CAT 1 minimums. Or the other way around? Can the lead aircraft go to 28R? This is not the offset localizer from a few years ago? That's ...

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by timz
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO Ops Sunday: Landing on the 01's?
Replies: 8
Views: 3442

Re: SFO Ops Sunday: Landing on the 01's?

As it turned out, no landings on runways 10 on Sunday morning?

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by timz
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787 Range
Replies: 39
Views: 5493

Re: Boeing 787 Range

further than its stated distance? You're assuming "its stated distance" is some sort of official range. It isn't. Any airliner has a full-payload range, assuming still air and standard reserve fuel. Maybe that's what the "stated distance" is in this case. If it's carrying less p...

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by timz
Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane identification
Replies: 7
Views: 2137

Re: Plane identification

1949 in the caption sounds better -- the B377 was likely new. The Emp State Bldg got its antenna circa 1950.

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by timz
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?
Replies: 144
Views: 30700

Re: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?

Judge1310 wrote:
Throw in intersecting runways (a necessity due to prevailing winds in the area)

Doubt SFO's winds are anything special. Airliners at OAK and SJC manage with one-direction runways.

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by timz
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?
Replies: 144
Views: 30700

Re: SFO Runway 28L closure - How Bad?

How would that help? Still one landing at a time.

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by timz
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: United 747-100 / 200 / SP Fleet
Replies: 31
Views: 10208

Re: United 747-100 / 200 / SP Fleet

In the 2001-02 JP, the -238Bs are all 800000 lb with JT9D-7Js.

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by timz
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ATL Airspace vs. NYC Airspace
Replies: 12
Views: 5208

Re: ATL Airspace vs. NYC Airspace

spacecadet wrote:
that area above the Class B is still controlled airspace all the way up to 60,000 ft.

Which doesn't mean you need permission to enter it.

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by timz
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Do airlines use full range of an aircraft when planning routes
Replies: 9
Views: 3710

Re: Do airlines use full range of an aircraft when planning routes

Boeing 777-200 (not ER or LR, just the plain -200) has a listed range (in Wikipedia) of 9700 km. Any time someone says such-and-such aircraft has a "listed range" of so-and-so kilometers, pay no attention. They're not telling you anything helpful. But if they say it has a range of so-and-...

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by timz
Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Charts for Denver Stapleton Airport close to the 1995 closing?
Replies: 1
Views: 1744

Re: Charts for Denver Stapleton Airport close to the 1995 closing?

If you give me your e-mail I can send you a scan from 1989. I might have a 1992.

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by timz
Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Historical Question: L1011 PHL-BWI, circa late 1978
Replies: 20
Views: 3719

Re: Historical Question: L1011 PHL-BWI, circa late 1978

Eastern 809 flew PHL-BAL-BDA -- left PHL around 1030. The 10/77 OAG says L10; the 3/78 says it would change from 72S to L10 on 20 March. June 1978 timetable shows L10.

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by timz
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK Airport in the 1960's and 1970's
Replies: 65
Views: 18630

Re: JFK Airport in the 1960's and 1970's

Eventually PA and TW international arrivals started using their own terminals -- dunno when. Late 1960s?

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by timz
Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of UA at JFK
Replies: 32
Views: 5563

Re: History of UA at JFK

BoeingGuy wrote:
Did UA fly BWI-HNL

...someone said that UA also did DTW-HNL


The 4/70 timetable says BAL-HNL and DTW-HNL were both to start 1 June. In 7/70 BAL was daily, DTW 4/week. DTW lasted for maybe a year, BAL a bit longer.

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by timz
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of UA at JFK
Replies: 32
Views: 5563

Re: History of UA at JFK

intotheair wrote:
I just was not aware that UA did fly DEN-JFK at one time

Started around 1954 when the DC-7 took over, replacing the DC-6 nonstop from LGA.

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by timz
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles
Replies: 50
Views: 9784

Re: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles

Aesma wrote:
If no woman had flown this route before...

Brooke Knapp did circumpolar in a GIII in... 1983? Not the same route, of course, and more stops.

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Iemand91 wrote:
Its recorded flight time was 46 hours, 39 minutes, 38 seconds.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/07 ... 562853645/


Flight time was 46-39-38? Or does that time include the fuel stops?

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by timz
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 26823

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

In 1975-77 the ITO-ORD nonstop was Friday only, then in 1978 UA said it would be daily eff 9 June -- still eastward only. No nonstop in the 10/78 timetable.

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by timz
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?
Replies: 12
Views: 2626

Re: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?

Checked 1982 and 1984 OAGs -- DFW-SJU was 72S.

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by timz
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?
Replies: 12
Views: 2626

Re: 727s Texas to Puerto Rico and viceversa non-stop?

http://www.departedflights.com/AADFWhub.html

I'll check -- probably a 727?
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It seems AA started DFW-SJU in 1982

http://www.departedflights.com/AADFWhub.html

I'll check -- probably a 727?

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by timz
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What helicopter is this?
Replies: 4
Views: 1880

What helicopter is this?

Says Feb 1982 -- might be true for all I know. https://www.flickr.com/photos/28122377@N04/23149084203/sizes/l/ Same date here -- same vehicle? https://www.flickr.com/photos/28122377@N04/23775885175/sizes/l/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/28122377@N04/23693458311/sizes/l/ (Now that I continue thru his...

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by timz
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Incident in 1988 in either New York or New Jersey?
Replies: 26
Views: 5791

Re: Incident in 1988 in either New York or New Jersey?

https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/c ... 083/rec/43

15 June 1988
https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/c ... 003/rec/95
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Timetables

3 Apr 1988
https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/c ... 083/rec/43

15 June 1988
https://merrick.library.miami.edu/cdm/c ... 003/rec/95

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by timz
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?
Replies: 37
Views: 5112

Re: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?

Bradin wrote:
isn't [LAX] 25L and 25R more than 1200' apart?

Google maps measurement is good for that -- they're now 800 feet. They were about 745 feet until they shifted one of them to get room for the taxiway between.

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by timz
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air
Replies: 21
Views: 5310

Re: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air

flyPIT wrote:
even though it was a scheduled ATA route

As I recall, the Pleas Haw Hol flights weren't scheduled enough to be in the OAG.

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by timz
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 26823

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

Q wrote:
I can't image that United 747-200 flew Chicago to Hilo daily non stop!

Doubt anyone ever flew ORD-ITO nonstop daily. (UA just had 747-100s then.)

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by timz
Wed May 29, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?
Replies: 37
Views: 5112

Re: Will LAX pass ATL to become the world's busiest airport?

Busiest by passenger count? O&D passengers only -- connecting passengers don't count? Or what?

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by timz
Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LaGaudia's visual expressway approach
Replies: 12
Views: 4105

Re: LaGuardia's visual expressway approach

timz wrote:
(Dunno if the prohibition was removed as soon as rwy 4 was extended to 7000 ft.)

To clarify: we know the prohibition on jets landing runway 4 was removed -- dunno if it was removed circa 1966, or later.

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by timz
Sun May 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LaGaudia's visual expressway approach
Replies: 12
Views: 4105

Re: LaGuardia's visual expressway approach

As I recall, when La Guardia first got jets they weren't allowed to land runway 4 -- so maybe the 31 Visual dates from then.

(Dunno if the prohibition was removed as soon as rwy 4 was extended to 7000 ft.)

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by timz
Tue May 07, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ATC Radio frequencies
Replies: 2
Views: 1931

Re: ATC Radio frequencies

If you can't get the info elsewhere, you can always try When you're listening to a low-altitude plane, keep listening as it climbs, to hear the frequencies it changes to. You can hope to get the hi-alt freq for 100 miles west/east of you, then if you listen to that maybe you'll hear aircraft being h...

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